Any interview with 25N MCAT and 3.68/3.8 GPA?

[gujuDoc]

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I 've got accepted into AUC and awaiting an intreview with St.George in January.
I also have an interview at UNECOM, but flipped a coin today after reading tonns of info /treads MD vs DO and desided that I don't want to persue the DO road.

You are more likely to get more opps coming out of a DO school then a foreign MD school. If you really want MD route, you are better off taking a year off and studying for the MCAT and retaking it and reapplying before you run off to the carribean. Oh and I wouldn't be calling someone an idiot for going DO when you yourself haven't even gotten that coveted MD acceptance at a good MD school in the states yourself. That's just plain arrogance.

A DO at an American school is more likely to get better residency options then an MD coming out of the islands where several people have really tough times getting residencies and the schools are geared more towards weeding you out then helping unlike US MD and DO schools which do everything to see through it you get through the program.

 

[Kuba]

So I see the OP had a change of heart and went to the UNECOM interview. Not sure I would want them representing my profession... Now we can see if they actually get into the DO programs they keep bashing as "not real"

As a fellow eastern-european I plead with you to go to the islands.

 

[Taty]

BTW Taty, congrats on the acceptance. I recall briefly talking to you last year when you were upset with MCAT results. That's great news on your part. and congrats on getting the invites to the 2 MD schools. What DO school was it?? The one in NY or Maine?? I've heard good things about those schools and know there are a few people who've chosen DO over MD because they loved the DO schools better. Those people were going to schools in the NE region.

I remember you !!! 🙂 🙂 Did you get to med school this time around ? 🙂 I am in NY and I think unless AECOM will show me some love (which I am sure will not happen) I'll go to NYCOM. I just felt like home when I was having campus tour,so I decided that I will attend, plus I kind of dont want to leave NY. 🙂
PM me I would like to know whats new with you 🙂

I love your avatar !!!

 

[UMP]

So I see the OP had a change of heart and went to the UNECOM interview. Not sure I would want them representing my profession... Now we can see if they actually get into the DO programs they keep bashing as "not real"

As a fellow eastern-european I plead with you to go to the islands.

Krasinski is one funny Polak 👍

 

[Taty]

So I see the OP had a change of heart and went to the UNECOM interview. Not sure I would want them representing my profession... Now we can see if they actually get into the DO programs they keep bashing as "not real"

As a fellow eastern-european I plead with you to go to the islands.

After analyzing the OP's attitude and mentality (on this thread) I came up with conclusion that he/she came from former USSR republic. Am I right?
Well I came from former USSR republic too and I just recognize the attitude 🙂
No offense ok? 🙂

Anyway good luck to you OP.

 

[Kuba]

Krasinski is one funny Polak 👍

haha, is he even polish though?

 

[Depakote]

After analyzing the OP's attitude and mentality (on this thread) I came up with conclusion that he/she came from former USSR republic. Am I right?
Well I came from former USSR republic too and I just recognize the attitude 🙂
No offense ok? 🙂

Anyway good luck to you OP.

based on the username, I'm guessing Czech.

 

[Kuba]

based on the username, I'm guessing Czech.

or Slovak. but probably Czech.

 

[Slavia]

You are more likely to get more opps coming out of a DO school then a foreign MD school. If you really want MD route, you are better off taking a year off and studying for the MCAT and retaking it and reapplying before you run off to the carribean. Oh and I wouldn't be calling someone an idiot for going DO when you yourself haven't even gotten that coveted MD acceptance at a good MD school in the states yourself. That's just plain arrogance.

A DO at an American school is more likely to get better residency options then an MD coming out of the islands where several people have really tough times getting residencies and the schools are geared more towards weeding you out then helping unlike US MD and DO schools which do everything to see through it you get through the program.

First of, I did not call anyone an idiot, but rather was called an idiot by a person who is attending a DO school (it is amazing how people can read /see what they want to see!)

And to stop all that, the main question was asked about US medical schools (that's why was posted under pre-allopathic forum, not pre-osteopathic!) I did read and know everything that was said above and I am /was not interested in all cons and pros of DO school vs. Caribbean vs, European, etc.!

Anyway, thanks to all for replies. This topic is now officially closed!

 

[Taty]

Listen, if so many people got insulted with your post means that there is something wrong with it or maybe u worded it wrong...dont get offended because of it.

 

[Ad von K]

Hi. I took the MCAT twice too and got a 23R the first time around (V7,B8,P8) and a 24O the second time (V6,B9,P9). My g.p.a. is in the 3.75 to 3.8 range. I have sent out apps to 26 schools and 16 requested secondaries. off of these 16 only one sent me a rejection. I have heard absolutely nothing from the others

I am completely confused. Shud I study for the MCAT again and take it again? Should I be optimistic and expect any interviews? I don't know what to do?

Please help

Sounds like you have trouble with standardized tests just like me! Your gpa is good so keep that up...(that's what helped me through this process). I wanted to take the MCAT for a third time but held off and stuck with my 24Q. I have been really fortunate. Your score distributions are similar to mine too. Try that MCAT one more time and reapply if you don't get in this cycle. Remember....you will be a doctor if you REALLY want to be!! I am sure you can raise your score a few more points and then you should be fine.

 

[Creightonite]

never mind

 

[TPROrgoTutor2]

TPR, I don't completely disagree with you, but for you and every one of your friends accepted I know many people who can't even get the average on the MCAT and by many I don't mean a few small handful but a very high proportion of premeds I've met can't seem to get even a 24 much less 23 on the MCAT and are being put in the position of running off to the islands or other places The norm of people getting your score when compared to the whole premed population at our university isn't that high. That's the point Mahler Rocks is making and I don't tend to disagree with him. Yes there's a good percentage from every school that will get in, but at the lower ranked institutions a lot of times there are equally as many people who can't even seem to half as decent on such exams. Oh and I don't believe every single person I know with a similar GPA to yours has it because they are as brilliant as you because I've met a lot of people who choose to get their A's by cheating and old tests and who can't even break a 20 on the MCAT. Sad but true.

While I understand the point he was trying to make I feel it is a terrible generalization to make. I stick up for the underdog anyway in most all cases, so my opinion should be expected to be as such. And thank you for the compliments, however untrue they may be regarding myself.

 

[gujuDoc]

While I understand the point he was trying to make I feel it is a terrible generalization to make. I stick up for the underdog anyway in most all cases, so my opinion should be expected to be as such. And thank you for the compliments, however untrue they may be regarding myself.

Yeah I understand you about sticking up for the underdog too, but I was just pointing out that to a certain degree not everything he said was false.

There are points from both side which I agree with.

 

[notgettingin]

I have a lot of research/volunteering too. Now I am working at Harvard Medical School doing research at Pathology department. Got excellent recommendations from health committee.
About DO, I am tiered of trying to explain everybody what’s that. Plus, DO’s have lower salaries, plus all extra staff I have to study, plus will have to take 6 exams instead of 3, etc., etc., etc. And the most important: DO's are not allowed to practice medicine in other coutries which is for me being born iousite of US is an important point.
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How the hell do you do research at Harvard and come up with this statement? You my friend are a IDIOT! Harvard must have scraped the bottom of the umemployment line to have you work for them.

?? THis is obviously not his native language. His English is better then my second language, that's for sure...

 

[notgettingin]

?? THis is obviously not his native language. His English is better then my second language, that's for sure...

oops should have read the rest of the thread before posting 😛

 

[UMP]

haha, is he even polish though?

I'm talking about the dude in your Avatar 👍

 

[BNSN]

I think that if you don't want to do D.O. you shouldn't. However many sites say that D.O.s can practice in foreign countries. And about the lower salaries, I'm pretty sure for the same job its the same salary. Probably the average salary is lower because many more D.O.s do more primary care as opposed to specialty. I think that in the same field it would be the same. Just trying to keep false information from being spread, not anything against you! Good luck.

I love you and want you to be my wife.

 

[Kuba]

I'm talking about the dude in your Avatar 👍

I know, lol, but I doubt hes actually polish is what I was saying.

 

[gujuDoc]

Slavia,

First off, I probably should have worded that differently. You didn't directly say something but you implied it by saying it wasn't "real" medicine to be practicing as a DO. I understand your concerns but don't be cocky when people are trying to advise you and insulting to them. A little humility goes a long way.

On the subject of getting an MD, I'd advise you to talk with adcom directors and see what they say but some adcom directors suggest doing an SMP type of program. Perhaps consider seeing if you could get into one of the one's which partial linkage to a chance at their med school like MCO's new SMP program and Wake forest's program or ask adcoms if doing an SMP type of program would help your chances or if you should just sit for the MCAT again. That's the best thing for you to do. Talk with adcoms and see what they advise.

 

[Taty]

Slavia,

First off, I probably should have worded that differently. You didn't directly say something but you implied it by saying it wasn't "real" medicine to be practicing as a DO. I understand your concerns but don't be cocky when people are trying to advise you and insulting to them. A little humility goes a long way.

On the subject of getting an MD, I'd advise you to talk with adcom directors and see what they say but some adcom directors suggest doing an SMP type of program. Perhaps consider seeing if you could get into one of the one's which partial linkage to a chance at their med school like MCO's new SMP program and Wake forest's program or ask adcoms if doing an SMP type of program would help your chances or if you should just sit for the MCAT again. That's the best thing for you to do. Talk with adcoms and see what they advise.

I agree.

 

[Slavia]

Just wondering, I applied late (I know, I know, but my school's health committee was late on letters of recommendations, etc.).
I've got 24O on April MCAT and 25N on August MCAT (can't perform well on such long tests I guess)
My overall GPA is 3.68 and science GPA is 3.8.
Anyone with the same stats got any interviews from US SOM? I had no luck so far... :-(

What is wrong with guys?!? I am wondering is English your first language? I did not asked for advices on what to do (see original post in quote above)! What I wanted to know either any of you had interviews having similar or close to mine stats! That's it! Nothing more, nothing less! I would not insult anyone if you would give me straight answer to my question instead of giving me useless advices I don't need!!! I did my research part and I know what to do next! The only (and the only) thing I was wondering about either people with my MCAT score/GPA had interviews and if yes, when (how early) they apply, what schools they have had interviews and did they get accepted.
If someone have something to say/add to this I would really appreciate that. Everything else you are writing/suggesting here is absolutely irrelevant to me!
Thanks and good luck to everyone applying/waiting.

 

[gujuDoc]

What is wrong with guys?!? I am wondering is English your first language? I did not asked for advices on what to do (see original post in quote above)! What I wanted to know either any of you had interviews having similar or close to mine stats! That's it! Nothing more, nothing less! I would not insult anyone if you would give me straight answer to my question instead of giving me useless advices I don't need!!! I did my research part and I know what to do next! The only (and the only) thing I was wondering about either people with my MCAT score/GPA had interviews and if yes, when (how early) they apply, what schools they have had interviews and did they get accepted.
If someone have something to say/add to this I would really appreciate that. Everything else you are writing/suggesting here is absolutely irrelevant to me!
Thanks and good luck to everyone applying/waiting.

It is possible to get in but the chances are very very slim. I think there have been only 2-3 cases in which I have seen people get in with similar stats to yours and they have been in our home state schools in Florida. One person had a 3.9 and 26 and had acceptances from RFU and one of our state schools, and another had a 3.6 and 25 and 26 on the MCAT respectively. Another had a 3.6 ugpa, 3.4 Grad GPA and 25 on the MCAT and got in at a state school here in Fl. and another person got in with a 24 and 3.9. The first 3 students are second years and the latter is a 3rd year. The first two cases are at the same med school and the other 2 are at different med schools in Florida. One of our schools, FSU, has an avg of 25 because its relatively new. Other schools that do accept people with those kind of lower stats are Meharry and Howard but they take mostly minorities.

It isn't impossible at most state institutions but its going to be an uphill battle to get an interview.

One thing I'll say if it gives you any hope, those that got interviewed and accepted in the aforementioned cases were people who interviewed in late spring. They interviewed either in Feb. or March. The first two cases interviewed the very last interviews of that season for the school they both ended up in. They were waitlisted first but were on a ranked waitlist and ranked at the top of the waitlist. Hence, they got in.

There's a slight chance, but it is going to be tougher. its hard to predict what will happen in your particular case but if it doesn't work out then talk with adcoms and see what they say.

 

[UMP]

I know, lol, but I doubt hes actually polish is what I was saying.

Krasinski ? How could that not be polish...

 

[Taty]

OP, I had 24P 3.7/3.7 last year, 0 invites and nobody cared about me being ESL. I think there will be tough luck with MD schools with these #s.

 

[Kuba]

Krasinski ? How could that not be polish...

I see what you are saying. Being a FOB polak I generally think of polaks as either being polish citizens or being almsot 100% Polish, Either way Krasinksi is hilarious. I love that show.

Check out this thread all you The Office fans - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=4709026#post4709026

 

[roadlesstvld]

Difficult, but possible. I am a first generation immigrant with a low mcat verbal--26P overall. I have 2000++ volunteer hours, a fulltime job, research experience, outstanding letters of rec, and a 4.0. I am also the first in my family to attend college. I got into an allopathic medical school this year. It can be done, but you must make the rest of your application shine. Good luck to you.🙂

 

[Taty]

Difficult, but possible. I am a first generation immigrant with a low mcat verbal--26P overall. I have 2000++ volunteer hours, a fulltime job, research experience, outstanding letters of rec, and a 4.0. I am also the first in my family to attend college. I got into an allopathic medical school this year. It can be done, but you must make the rest of your application shine. Good luck to you.🙂

Verbal thing depends what age u were when u came to US and how long u have been living here 🙂Good luck to you, it is good to see more first generation immigrants in medical school🙂

 

[gujuDoc]

Verbal thing depends what age u were when u came to US and how long u have been living here 🙂Good luck to you, it is good to see more first generation immigrants in medical school🙂

Also some countries *cough East Asian cough* don't seem to teach english as well as their language but only teach their language whereas at least in India if you are wealthier you can send your children to an English speaking school so they are still in a position that they could do reasonably well if they come to America and have to take Verbal tests like the MCAT VR.

 

[Re3iRtH]

It's not that hard, for me to give him... the wrong advices.
And when it comes to the day of the competition.. I'm his father,
he comes to me for advices.
--Arnold Schwarzenegger

What is wrong with guys?!? I am wondering is English your first language? I did not asked for advices on what to do (see original post in quote above)! What I wanted to know either any of you had interviews having similar or close to mine stats! That's it! Nothing more, nothing less! I would not insult anyone if you would give me straight answer to my question instead of giving me useless advices I don't need!!! I did my research part and I know what to do next! The only (and the only) thing I was wondering about either people with my MCAT score/GPA had interviews and if yes, when (how early) they apply, what schools they have had interviews and did they get accepted.
If someone have something to say/add to this I would really appreciate that. Everything else you are writing/suggesting here is absolutely irrelevant to me!
Thanks and good luck to everyone applying/waiting.

 

[Taty]

Also some countries *cough East Asian cough* don't seem to teach english as well as their language but only teach their language whereas at least in India if you are wealthier you can send your children to an English speaking school so they are still in a position that they could do reasonably well if they come to America and have to take Verbal tests like the MCAT VR.

Yea,agree. It also depends from which language is your first. If your first lunguage is chinise,japanese,arabic or russian I think you will have harder time to learn English...

 

[baylormed]

Verbal thing depends what age u were when u came to US and how long u have been living here 🙂Good luck to you, it is good to see more first generation immigrants in medical school🙂

I didn't start learning English until I was 12 years old, and I wasn't really immersed in it until I was 15, which is when I moved to the US.

I still had a good verbal score. 🙂 I think it depends on how much time and effort you put into it, or just on an innate ability for languages (I've always found it somewhat easier than the average person).

Maybe the reason I've found it easier is that even though I didn't speak English, I'd always been exposed to hearing it regularly while growing up.

My dad used to buy all my Disney movies in English, and I watched them over and over even though I couldn't really tell what they were saying...my dad would translate for me when I asked. My dad also used to watch a lot of American television.

Anyway, and yes, no one will really care about people being ESL. After all, you need to speak the language correctly in order to be successful with the heavy reading of medical school.

 

[Taty]

Yea, agree I came when I was 19 🙂 but still who cares about it 🙂

 

[gujuDoc]

I didn't start learning English until I was 12 years old, and I wasn't really immersed in it until I was 15, which is when I moved to the US.

I still had a good verbal score. 🙂 I think it depends on how much time and effort you put into it, or just on an innate ability for languages (I've always found it somewhat easier than the average person).

Maybe the reason I've found it easier is that even though I didn't speak English, I'd always been exposed to hearing it regularly while growing up.

My dad used to buy all my Disney movies in English, and I watched them over and over even though I couldn't really tell what they were saying...my dad would translate for me when I asked. My dad also used to watch a lot of American television.



Anyway, and yes, no one will really care about people being ESL. After all, you need to speak the language correctly in order to be successful with the heavy reading of medical school.

Yes but YOU WERE EXPOSED to English before through movies and tv. A lot of my East Asian friends weren't even exposed on any level to English and what's sad is that even though they are living here now they are not doing much to encourage their children to learn English along side their language. I think that's one of the reasons some of my east asian friends are not doing well because they refuse to adapt and start reading English books as much as they read things in their own language. That's where they fail and that's why they do horrible but I do agree with the last paragraph that they should learn to adapt. Problem is many of them don't.

 

[112258]

I love you and want you to be my wife.

Hahaha wow I didn't think my post was so amazing

 

[baylormed]

Yes but YOU WERE EXPOSED to English before through movies and tv. A lot of my East Asian friends weren't even exposed on any level to English and what's sad is that even though they are living here now they are not doing much to encourage their children to learn English along side their language. I think that's one of the reasons some of my east asian friends are not doing well because they refuse to adapt and start reading English books as much as they read things in their own language. That's where they fail and that's why they do horrible but I do agree with the last paragraph that they should learn to adapt. Problem is many of them don't.

I agree with you that this is their failure. After beginning to learn English, I tried very hard to watch more English television and to read mostly in English. It helped my vocabulary and my pronunciation, and to this day I feel just as comfortable in English as I do in my native language (not at first though 😉 ). With enough practice and the will to do it you can assume a new language quite well.