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Anecdotally apps are down 10-20% for some of the more "desirable" programs in my area of the country.
Any other residency program's applications down this year?
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Maybe because there are more programs now? I think I saw a graph that showed that 2012 was the toughest year to get into residency, then the "demand" was met by opening up new residencies. Supply still doesn't meet demand, but I hope it doesn't, since there aren't that many jobs for residency trained pharmacists.
Back when I was job-hunting a few years ago, I had several people tell me that there were new grads who were doing, or at least applying for, residencies just so they would have a job that paid a living wage. 🙁
Many of the residency open houses which I attended told us that they got more attendees than expected. This is including in one a fairly undesirable area which they were probably expecting half the total number of students that showed up.
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Employers always say they have too many applicants. It's a tactic.
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Why would they tell you the numbers of applicants is down, even if it's true?
I wouldn't expect them to tell us specifically that numbers are down, but I was shocked to see the large number of open house attendees, especially for one of the programs that was in an undesirable area and not all that reputable.
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A few months ago I saw a post on indeed for a residency at a major university hospital. I guess someone backed out last minute but I thought for sure they had a list of people ready to jump. Maybe not.
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I think per HR and labor laws most places have to advertise the position even though it's already filled via the match. After I matched I had to apply via my company's posting.
Applications are also down to some top pharmacy schools across the country. It's the economy....when the economy is good, less people good back to school/extended training (residency)
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...and getting jobs where?
pretty sure the consensus here was new grads = lost and homeless
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I think our garbage apps are down, but total interview slots are the same.
Doesn't really matter too much, all we need is X to match our # of positions.
But we're jacked into the same Rx schools as before so it's been steady.
Fewer apps? Good, less weeding out I have to do.
Doesn't really matter too much, all we need is X to match our # of positions.
But we're jacked into the same Rx schools as before so it's been steady.
Fewer apps? Good, less weeding out I have to do.
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That would make sense, maybe due to Phorcas, since people actually have to pay to apply to programs.
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The number of students asking me to write LORs on their behalf is down by at least 50% this year. Those LORs I am writing are for the top students; the marginal chances and no-chances students aren't asking this year.
Nor have any of the LOR requests been of the "I have poor job prospects at graduation, so I'm going the residency route" variety. Am I being overly optimistic, or has the message finally gotten through to folks that if you want to work retail when you graduate, you need to be working retail while in school? It certainly seems to be the case here.
Nor have any of the LOR requests been of the "I have poor job prospects at graduation, so I'm going the residency route" variety. Am I being overly optimistic, or has the message finally gotten through to folks that if you want to work retail when you graduate, you need to be working retail while in school? It certainly seems to be the case here.
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Hmmm...I like that explanation.
Also, could be that word is trickling down that PGY-1 isn't a golden ticket to a cushy clinical job, there's still a challenge that looms at the end and a dearth of clinical positions to support the number of new residency grads.
Perhaps a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, so to speak, for upcoming new grads. I've been telling students to weight their ultimate motivations for considering PGY-1 and if retail is in the picture at all, work experience is needed...and, in some cases, you might want to take the first offer.
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This. "more" apps doesn't equal "quality" apps, looking just at the number of apps is a useless metric.
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36 applications
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We will interview 10
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New grads only have 2 options:
1. do a residency
2. work for Walgreens/CVS
1. do a residency
2. work for Walgreens/CVS
