Any schools that DON'T look at PAT?

[kidsteethyay]

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Are there any? I know UMKC doesn't. Are there any that don't consider the PAT to be that important?

 

[doctorloomis]

You really need a good PAT score for interview consideration. That gives the adcoms a little info about your spatial skills and ability to manipulate objects in space with your mind. It's not good enough to know chem formulas or loads of biology alone. The PAT you really can't study for - you just practice repeatedly like a football player trying to get his 40-yard dash time down to a respectable time for the NFL Draft since he runs over and over to improve his burst speed.

And then it hits you on test day how good you are. You take the most awkward object they throw at you, your brain starts ticking away, and the answer is so easy right in front of you, unlike your first time when the folded, twisted-boat with shaded sides looked impossible and you guessed 'B' over and over. It took me two times taking the DAT to get the PAT score I needed (average, not stellar).

Practice until you are hitting 18-19 on practice tests and you'll at least make that on test day. If you swing it right you will hit 19 or higher, but it's hard. Modest preparation will give you 17-18 and should be enough if the rest of your stats hold up. The idea is to over prepare here.

 

[dat_student]

Are there any? I know UMKC doesn't. Are there any that don't consider the PAT to be that important?

I've heard some of the TX schools don't pay much attention to the PAT scores. I am not quite sure.

I know UCSF, for sure, considers PAT >=19 a perfect score. I think PAT <= 14 is not acceptable for UCSF. That's what I was told during my interview.

UPENN also doesn't seem to pay too much attention to the PAT score.

Best to contact each school directly (if you want to be 100% sure).

 

[r0entgen]

You really need a good PAT score for interview consideration. That gives the adcoms a little info about your spatial skills and ability to manipulate objects in space with your mind.

i don't think this is true. i only got a 15 on my PAT and i still got interviews to all my schools...

 

[PickMe]

ive also heard that penn doesnt weigh on the pat too much.

 

[gujudentist]

i don't think this is true. i only got a 15 on my PAT and i still got interviews to all my schools...

hey, im just starting this studentdocnet thing, but im happy to have come across your post...

uh, so im going to post my scores and stuff, and can u tell me how i size up to penn...its really my top choice.

nyu class of 07
cum gpa: 3.52
sci gpa: 3.3
DAT AA: 21
DAT Sci: 21
QR: 21
Bio: 20
Chem:21
Orgo:24
RC: 18
PAT: 16

i didnt do as well on the rc and pat cuz it really phased me not having a break bw the sci and pat like i was told my dat instructor...im probably gonna have to explain what happened. let me know what u think

 

[LIer2010]

hey, im just starting this studentdocnet thing, but im happy to have come across your post...

uh, so im going to post my scores and stuff, and can u tell me how i size up to penn...its really my top choice.

nyu class of 07
cum gpa: 3.52
sci gpa: 3.3
DAT AA: 21
DAT Sci: 21
QR: 21
Bio: 20
Chem:21
Orgo:24
RC: 18
PAT: 16

i didnt do as well on the rc and pat cuz it really phased me not having a break bw the sci and pat like i was told my dat instructor...im probably gonna have to explain what happened. let me know what u think

Borderline .... Penn REALLY likes high GPAs - a safe bet is at least 3.5 on both sci and overall GPA. High DAT wont help you for Penn unless you have GPA to back it up.

 

[MALOKINMARTIN]

You should go to a big library and find yourself a Barrons book. It has listings of dental schools and dat scores of class students broken out. So you can look at who they accepted and the average section score. (im pretty sure it was Barrons)

 

[teefie]

just get a good score on the PAT and you wont have to worry about it.

 

[LazurasDC]

I can confirm about the Texas schools. I have heard from multiple people that none of the Texas schools look at PAT much when considering interviewing/accepting... but of course each school only accepts single digit percentage of out of state applicants.