Any word from BU?

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Guess they were serious about the "no word till late June" spiel this time...
 
Lets hope this starts moving this week! Good luck to all!
 
planck2 said:
D-Bone would you care to elaborate? What is this hold pattern and did you hear this from the office?
Does anyone know if its just that the committee hasnt taken any action on the waitlist or is there no seats available yet?
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I was told by BWitz's secretary not to expect any movement until at least the end of June...as I've said before. I also feel they accepted more people this year than past, along with a longer waitlist. I'm not certain of this, but it's the impression others and myself have. The good thing is if I'm wrong, then hopefully we'll see some movement via SDNers letting us know what's going on. Good luck everyone!!

PS - Dean Witzburg makes the waitlist decisions himself...committee is not involved.
 
D-Bone said:
I was told by BWitz's secretary not to expect any movement until at least the end of June...as I've said before. I also feel they accepted more people this year than past, along with a longer waitlist. I'm not certain of this, but it's the impression others and myself have. The good thing is if I'm wrong, then hopefully we'll see some movement via SDNers letting us know what's going on. Good luck everyone!!

PS - Dean Witzburg makes the waitlist decisions himself...committee is not involved.
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Wait, where'd you hear that Witzburg makes the calls?

PS: Called yesterday, and secretary transferred me to another lady stating that movement would not start until middle of June. Something's funky here.
 
I emailed Witzburg directly. The class is currently full, with a higher yield than past years. No movement expected for awhile, I would imagine.
 
i heard similar news as well 2 weeks ago ...the class is currently overfilled.
 
Seriously, where are people getting this "overfilled" business? Is there any proof, or are people going of "hunches", "feelings", and "intuitions?"
 
RUN TARSIER!!! said:
Wait, where'd you hear that Witzburg makes the calls?

PS: Called yesterday, and secretary transferred me to another lady stating that movement would not start until middle of June. Something's funky here.
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As a former GMS student at the medical school, I've heard from multiple faculty and students that he makes the final decision and any input otherwise really does not sway his final decisions.

On another foul note, that doesn't sound promising at all that the class is currently overfilled. Why bother with a waitlist if the program is willing to run into overfull issues!?! Ugh!!
 
I can confirm the over admitted news, I'm a GMS student on the waitlist and this year they had a huge turnout at the open house and a very small number of withdrawls ~ 55 by the May 15th deadline. I've been told that there are typically 10 M.D. Ph.D's a year, but this year there are 19 admitted for those 10 spots.

From what the GMS office is telling their students, there's always hope, but to start planning for other alternative options other than BU for this year. There's no official word from Witzburg until middle or late June, but it doesn't look good for the waitlist this year, most likely no waitlist at all or a very limited waitlist, which hasn't happened at BU for quite some time. Every other year they usually go pretty deep into the waitlist, and that's how a lot of GMS kids get in. I'm pretty disappointed about the news and even though it is not official, I trust the faculty here not to lie to me about this sort of thing, and I think it may help some of you guys to know.
 
Does anyone know how the waitlist was last year for 2005? Did they encounter a similar situation or is this a fluke?
 
Gosh...I was hoping the rumor I heard at BUSM was untrue, but I guess a couple of you have heard similar news. This really sucks ...I hope I hear better news from my other waitlists . **sigh**
 
Eclipse2011 said:
I can confirm the over admitted news, I'm a GMS student on the waitlist and this year they had a huge turnout at the open house and a very small number of withdrawls ~ 55 by the May 15th deadline. I've been told that there are typically 10 M.D. Ph.D's a year, but this year there are 19 admitted for those 10 spots.

From what the GMS office is telling their students, there's always hope, but to start planning for other alternative options other than BU for this year. There's no official word from Witzburg until middle or late June, but it doesn't look good for the waitlist this year, most likely no waitlist at all or a very limited waitlist, which hasn't happened at BU for quite some time. Every other year they usually go pretty deep into the waitlist, and that's how a lot of GMS kids get in. I'm pretty disappointed about the news and even though it is not official, I trust the faculty here not to lie to me about this sort of thing, and I think it may help some of you guys to know.
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I'm sure your sources are well meaning, but those statistics don't add up at all if the US News data on BU from last year is even remotely accurate. Last year they had something like 430 acceptances.... which means about 66% accepted turned them down since the incoming class is ~150. So if this "overfilled" claim is actually true, then they have improved their retention rate from 33% to somewhere in the 70-80 percent range in one year. I think Harvard even has a lower acceptance / matriculation ratio than that, so I'm somewhat skeptical of this being true.


Also, 11 people on SDN have already posted on the offical withdrawl list that they withdrew from BU.... I doubt that list comprises 20% of all withdrawls

Not saying we'll all get in, but there will be movement....
 
I'm not saying that there won't be any movement, but the class is definitely full right now, according to Witzburg. More specifically,

"Right now our class is full. Our admissions yield appears to be running a bit higher than in the past, so I don't feel comfortable predicting what our #'s will look like in the next few weeks."

Hopefully movement will start soon!
 
PHellmuth said:
I'm sure your sources are well meaning, but those statistics don't add up at all if the US News data on BU from last year is even remotely accurate. Last year they had something like 430 acceptances.... which means about 66% accepted turned them down since the incoming class is ~150. So if this "overfilled" claim is actually true, then they have improved their retention rate from 33% to somewhere in the 70-80 percent range in one year. I think Harvard even has a lower acceptance / matriculation ratio than that, so I'm somewhat skeptical of this being true.


Also, 11 people on SDN have already posted on the offical withdrawl list that they withdrew from BU.... I doubt that list comprises 20% of all withdrawls

Not saying we'll all get in, but there will be movement....
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Maybe they accepted a lot more this year compared to last year. By a lot I mean way more than they used to. Just a guess.
 
X5Boi said:
Maybe they accepted a lot more this year compared to last year. By a lot I mean way more than they used to. Just a guess.
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I doubt they accepted any more then usual. My guess is that BU's huge jump in the US News and World report has something to do with this. I know this is the second year they have have been ranked in the mid-20's and I know that the main reason they made the big ratings climb was due to a huge NIH grant for the new BSL4 lab but I remember a lot of SDNer's saying they were surprised that BU held the spot this year.

This is nothing more then my own theory on the reason so many people chose to keep their acceptances this year. I know everyone likes to say these ratings don't mean anything but when I think back at some of the ridiculous criteria that people were using to decide btw school A and school B, I'm sure BU's big ratings jump came into play. I see no other reason for such a large change.
 
Is there still NO movement?? I am losing hope that this is going to start moving later this month. If its not moving AT ALL now, why would it move then? If you have any info, please post. Thanks!!
 
betty7 said:
Is there still NO movement?? I am losing hope that this is going to start moving later this month. If its not moving AT ALL now, why would it move then? If you have any info, please post. Thanks!!
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i actually emailed dean witzburg recently and he said that usually peak movement is between 6/15-7/15 but this year their class is running a bit larger for this time of cycle so he is not sure when offers off the waitlist will begin..hope this helps... the wiating is driving me crazy as well! 👎
 
hey everyone

I withdrew my acceptance from BU this week so hopefully one of you will get in. Good Luck! 🙂 :luck:
 
taisly said:
hey everyone

I withdrew my acceptance from BU this week so hopefully one of you will get in. Good Luck! 🙂 :luck:
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Thanks Taisly for letting us know! So far ive seen two withdrawals from BU on SDN recently. Hopefully there will be more. Where did u decide to go instead Taisly?
 
taisly said:
hey everyone

I withdrew my acceptance from BU this week so hopefully one of you will get in. Good Luck! 🙂 :luck:
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Was it hard for you to withdraw knowing you would lose your 500 dollar deposit? At most other schools, I know it is only $100. Also, thanks for posting your withdrawl, that seems to be the best news we have gotten in awhile concerning this massive crapshoot 👍
 
Has anyone been checking in on the waitlist status at BUSM?
 
planck2 said:
Has anyone been checking in on the waitlist status at BUSM?
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I called last week and the adcom told me that the waitlist has not moved at all this year and does not know if and when it will mive. I'm not sure if she was just feeding me this info though...seeing as how somehow evidently withdrew recently...
 
betty7 said:
I called last week and the adcom told me that the waitlist has not moved at all this year and does not know if and when it will mive. I'm not sure if she was just feeding me this info though...seeing as how somehow evidently withdrew recently...
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Don't think it was just a line. I have heard that there has been no waitlist movement, and there may not be any at all. The earliest movement is anticipated at the end of the summer if there is some. Currently, the class is still overfilled.

Had to be this year!
 
It's a pretty darn crazy change from Dean Witzburg's claims of nearly everyone from the waitlist eventually getting a good shot at getting in...ouch, looks like a bad year for some waitlists. =(
 
I just called the admissions office this morning, and the lady i talked to basically said that there have been NO waitlist movement whatsoever and that the class is currently full. Ah well...It had to be this year...
 
My assumption is that BU decided to admit more competitive applicants this year under the auspice of a strategic plan that focused on gathering a more unique student body than years past. However, the popularity of the BU program exceeded the admissions committee expectations. Students will continue to drop out of the BU program as positions elsewhere open, or financial incentives persuade students to attend other institutions. Unfortunately, I think waitlist movement, if it even occurs, is going to happen around the beginning to middle of August when programs enroll students for the Fall of 2006 class! This is an opinion, but, it is reasonably suggested. I shall conclude with some food for thought: Imagine how competitive BU admissions will become when the school begins to award scholarship money.
 
ARTOFHAPPINESS said:
My assumption is that BU decided to admit more competitive applicants this year under the auspice of a strategic plan that focused on gathering a more unique student body than years past. However, the popularity of the BU program exceeded the admissions committee expectations. Students will continue to drop out of the BU program as positions elsewhere open, or financial incentives persuade students to attend other institutions. Unfortunately, I think waitlist movement, if it even occurs, is going to happen around the beginning to middle of August when programs enroll students for the Fall of 2006 class! This is an opinion, but, it is reasonably suggested. I shall conclude with some food for thought: Imagine how competitive BU admissions will become when the school begins to award scholarship money.
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If they start pulling people off the wailist in the middle of august, they are going to have a hard time finding people to go as BU has one of the latest starting dates. Most schools start beginning to mid august and thus out of luck if BU decides to accept them after they have already started...which is basically my case. I start school on aug 4.. 👎
 
That would definitely be "the suck" if BU starts movement mid-August. I too start in early August.
 
How much $$ do you lose if you begin school elsewhere and get pulled off a waitlist at a school you would rather go to and decide to switch schools even though you have aleady started?
 
betty7 said:
How much $$ do you lose if you begin school elsewhere and get pulled off a waitlist at a school you would rather go to and decide to switch schools even though you have aleady started?
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You cant do that. Once you've started first day of orientation, you cant leave ur current school to go to BU.
 
betty7 said:
How much $$ do you lose if you begin school elsewhere and get pulled off a waitlist at a school you would rather go to and decide to switch schools even though you have aleady started?
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I believe that once you register at a school you can no longer switch to another school. In fact I have heard that some schools take it even further and won't offer an acceptance to a student who is already accepted somewhere else and is within one week of beginning orientation.

This is why D-bone and anyone else without an acceptance has an advantage over others on the waitlist who are already accepted somewhere. They can wait forever.
 
ChestRockwell said:
I believe that once you register at a school you can no longer switch to another school. In fact I have heard that some schools take it even further and won't offer an acceptance to a student who is already accepted somewhere else and is within one week of beginning orientation.

This is why D-bone and anyone else without an acceptance has an advantage over others on the waitlist who are already accepted somewhere. They can wait forever.
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Hmm... not too sure about that unless policy has changed. Witzburg was sharing an anecdote from the past 2 years about an accepted BU applicant who was accepted the 1st day BU started. The applicant was already on his/her way in moving to another med school before turning around to go to BU.
 
Does anybody know how over-enrolled BU is at the moment? Have any of you still waiting on waitlists began reapplying?
 
Just wanted to bump this thread. Anyone heard anything? This is the suck.
 
RUN TARSIER!!! said:
Just wanted to bump this thread. Anyone heard anything? This is the suck.
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No word yet. I sense it'll be all dumb luck from this point if BU comes calling. Regarding re-applying, I've submitted AMCAS to all my schools, and I've received quite a few secondaries. Might as well get a good jump on these now. I also received an e-mail from BU stating that their system is getting upgraded, but to expect a secondary soon.
 
ARTOFHAPPINESS said:
My assumption is that BU decided to admit more competitive applicants this year under the auspice of a strategic plan that focused on gathering a more unique student body than years past. However, the popularity of the BU program exceeded the admissions committee expectations. Students will continue to drop out of the BU program as positions elsewhere open, or financial incentives persuade students to attend other institutions. Unfortunately, I think waitlist movement, if it even occurs, is going to happen around the beginning to middle of August when programs enroll students for the Fall of 2006 class! This is an opinion, but, it is reasonably suggested. I shall conclude with some food for thought: Imagine how competitive BU admissions will become when the school begins to award scholarship money.
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BU's class is not only full... they are over accepted by like 50 students, and its august. The waitlist didnt move for anyone. Sorry guys, this has never happened before, good luck to you.
 
kingcer0x said:
BU's class is not only full... they are over accepted by like 50 students, and its august. The waitlist didnt move for anyone. Sorry guys, this has never happened before, good luck to you.
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I thought i heard this was the number back in May. Are you saying the number has remained constant. Kingcer0x, how sure are you on this over accepted number?
 
planck2 said:
I thought i heard this was the number back in May. Are you saying the number has remained constant. Kingcer0x, how sure are you on this over accepted number?
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The number is 28 students over accepted, to be exact. The school has no choice but to accomodate the bigger class size. Unless something miraculous occurs, the waitlist will not be touched this year. Start re-applying. My source is BW, incase anyone is wondering. Sucks for us all.
 
Wow! That really sucks. Do you think that BU is going to get its accreditation challenged? The AAMC is the source for determining the enrollment of medical colleges. I read that over-enrollment is viewed unfavorably and disciplinary action may result.


D-Bone said:
The number is 28 students over accepted, to be exact. The school has no choice but to accomodate the bigger class size. Unless something miraculous occurs, the waitlist will not be touched this year. Start re-applying. My source is BW, incase anyone is wondering. Sucks for us all.
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you're right, the number is exactly 28, although I did not want to divulge that. My source was my old A/V boss who is freaking out trying to find room for an extra 28 people. Its harder than you think......
 
I called the admissions office last Thursday or Friday. They said there's been barely any movement from the waitlist. I dunno. I'm still kind of holding out.

I called because I just got off the waitlist for Tufts and wanted to know for BU because I may like it slightly better. I guess it's not happening since I have to tell Tufts yes/no soon.
 
I heard as of June that BU was overenrolled by about 40 students and there would be no waitlist movement at all this year. They are pulling their hair out just trying to figure out how they can jam all of the accepted students into the class. A friend talked directly to a member of the ADCOM. I guess the normal amount of people just didnt withdraw this year.

Edit: should have read the thread before posting, as this has been explained above...
 
anyone know the latest number they're over-enrolled by?
 
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