Anybody go to NYU?

[UMpredent]

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Anybody currently a student at NYU?

I am interviewing there next Monday (the 28th) and am keeping an open mind about the school despite some of the negative rumors I have heard.

For current students- Do you feel like you are at a disadvantage with such a large class size? Why do they accept so many more students? Anything you wish you had known before accepting your offer from NYU?

Thanks in advance...

 

[AnInconvntTooth]

This guy is blogging his whole experience at NYU... it's got some great pictures, insights, etc.

http://dentulous.wordpress.com/

 

[Bonanzio]

Anybody currently a student at NYU?

I am interviewing there next Monday (the 28th) and am keeping an open mind about the school despite some of the negative rumors I have heard.

For current students- Do you feel like you are at a disadvantage with such a large class size? Why do they accept so many more students? Anything you wish you had known before accepting your offer from NYU?

Thanks in advance...

They probably want to make good money out of everyone, despite the drop out rate is still the highest in the nation.

 

[Sephisabin]

They probably want to make good money out of everyone, despite the drop out rate is still the highest in the nation.

Ah, another person spreading rumors from decades ago...

For the record, the drop out and repeat rate combined is 2.7%. Go do some research before you comment next time.

The large class size isn't really an issue. For labs, they break you up into different sections so you're not in lab with all 230 people at once. There will be 115 people per lab section and you'll have a row instructor or two for each row. The student:faculty ratio is actually one of the best in the country... I believe it's 1:6.

The only time you realize the size of the class is during lecture when everyone is together. People tend to like that though because you can get attention if you want it or you can remain anonymous to your professors should you choose to do so (for the most part... there is one professor who learned EVERYONE'S name by the 2nd week of school... ridiculous).

That said... the lectures are often only attended by half the class. All of our lectures are audio and video recorded so a lot of people choose to skip class in favor of watching the lectures on video. Being able to pause, rewind and speed up your professor has its benefits.

There are a lot of rumors about NYU swirling around on SDN, most of which originated some 20 years ago. They may have been true at some time, but are no longer so. As for why they take so many students--Simply because they can... the school treats 230,000 patients a year. There's something to be said about never having to search for a patient...

 

[phremius]

I graduated NYU 09, I wrote up an assessment of my experiences in this post.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=603671

 

[angelnyc89]

Why do people care about the drop out rate? Does the drop out rate mean its a hard school? I dont get it. If you want to become a Dentist or what ever, if its in your heart and you have your mind set, you will take the challenges as they come. I think its stupid to look at the drop out rate and I believe they are rumors that are not true. Just my two cents. 🙂

 

[THINKOFMYFUTURE]

Why do people care about the drop out rate? ... 🙂

To see how easy it would be for me to drop out! Durrr!.

 

[phungy]

They probably want to make good money out of everyone, despite the drop out rate is still the highest in the nation.

Please provide your source or don't go spreading around false information.

Large class size is not an issue. Lecture auditorium has enough seats for all students. Anatomy lab is split up into groups of 20 with 2-3 instructors and sim lab is split into 120 for morning and afternoon sections. Each row has an instructor.

Recorded video and audio lectures are a big plus. I attend class everyday yet re-listen all lectures the day of.
Lecture powerpoints are posted 1-3 days in advance. No books, we use VitalBook. Some like it, some don't. The professors care about the students and offer study sessions after school. There are many quizzes each week to ensure everyone is caught up.

 

[angelnyc89]

I get the easy thing. But seriously, its dentistry, not grammar school. lol

 

[TedyBearSuicide]

I am keeping an open mind about the school despite some of the negative rumors I have heard.

Let me put it this way, if I have 500 informative posts, a donor status, an attractive predents profile and made a thread spreading false rumors about a school, do you think people will believe me?

Yes, welcome to SDN.

 

[THINKOFMYFUTURE]

Let me put it this way, if I have 500 informative posts, a donor status, an attractive predents profile and made a thread spreading false rumors about a school, do you think people will believe me?

Yes, welcome to SDN.

lol

 

[UMpredent]

OK so I went to the NYU Interview and got some things cleared up when talking to the students. They said that the only reason people drop out is because THEY choose to do so or they fail too many classes to stay in- like any other dental school.

The student I spoke with seemed to not mind the large class but DID tell me some interesting things. She told me that your class freshman year starts off with around 250 people and then sometime in the middle of first semester or second semester you get an additional 100 "Advanced Placement" students. These are dentists that have been educated in other countries which must now retake certain classes in order to practice in the US. She said these new students show no respect to the freshman and argue pointless details during lectures.

Another thing I found interesting- I was on my way out of the interview and in the elevator with a dental student. He asked me if NYU was my first choice for dental school and I replied "I am not sure, I'm just keeping an open mind, do you like it here?" His response? "NO!" I found this to be quite surprising. I interviewed at Michigan and everybody (students and staff) seemed to love the school and their classmates. During our tour of the clinic- the students also seemed to heckle us- saying "Don't do it! Get out while you still can, I remember when I used to be happy like you..."

NOT impressed NYU, not impressed.

 

[musl85]

The student I spoke with seemed to not mind the large class but DID tell me some interesting things. She told me that your class freshman year starts off with around 250 people and then sometime in the middle of first semester or second semester you get an additional 100 "Advanced Placement" students. These are dentists that have been educated in other countries which must now retake certain classes in order to practice in the US. She said these new students show no respect to the freshman and argue pointless details during lectures.

Another thing I found interesting- I was on my way out of the interview and in the elevator with a dental student. He asked me if NYU was my first choice for dental school and I replied "I am not sure, I'm just keeping an open mind, do you like it here?" His response? "NO!" I found this to be quite surprising. I interviewed at Michigan and everybody (students and staff) seemed to love the school and their classmates. During our tour of the clinic- the students also seemed to heckle us- saying "Don't do it! Get out while you still can, I remember when I used to be happy like you..."

NOT impressed NYU, not impressed.

Number one, the school adds 100 AP's during second year.

Number two, did that student ever mention what an amazing resource the AP's turn out to be? They have already done many of the procedures we do in lab and they are invaluable when it comes to needing assistance or getting advice, shortcuts. Are there some annoying ones? sure but that can be said of any class of students.... They are a very good resource to have!

As for the heckling, they are just messing around (a lot of us as D1's wanted to warn incoming students on how tough dental school is). Its got to do with the workload of dental school in general more than the school itself. The workload will put a damper on your happiness, unless studying and labs all the time make you jolly...

I was impressed and am very happy to be here, minus all the work of course.

 

[lekso]

Number one, the school adds 100 AP's during second year.

Number two, did that student ever mention what an amazing resource the AP's turn out to be? They have already done many of the procedures we do in lab and they are invaluable when it comes to needing assistance or getting advice, shortcuts. Are there some annoying ones? sure but that can be said of any class of students.... They are a very good resource to have!

As for the heckling, they are just messing around (a lot of us as D1's wanted to warn incoming students on how tough dental school is). Its got to do with the workload of dental school in general more than the school itself. The workload will put a damper on your happiness, unless studying and labs all the time make you jolly...

I was impressed and am very happy to be here, minus all the work of course.

In your opinion, why are there so many students that don't go on to second year?
One of the doctors that I work with went to NYU. He told me that they do kick out some of the students but I didn't really get to ask him why. Is it like the poster above said, do they decide to drop out? or do they get kicked out because they failed many classes? What do you think it is?
It's just a little scary that after you finally get into dental school, you don't get to finish. I'm applying next year, and NYU is definitely one of the schools I wan to apply to.

 

[MacPreDent]

Hey,
On the NYUCD website it says the tuition is around 62 grand a year which would work out to 250k total for 4 years in school. Then I look at Predents.com and it claims that amount is under 200k (for out of state).
So, am I missing something or is Predents.com just not accurate here?

 

[uncbestyet]

Hey,
On the NYUCD website it says the tuition is around 62 grand a year which would work out to 250k total for 4 years in school. Then I look at Predents.com and it claims that amount is under 200k (for out of state).
So, am I missing something or is Predents.com just not accurate here?

Heres an idea of the costs....

http://www.nyu.edu/dental/financialservices/tuitionfeesexpensesdds.html

 

[musl85]

In your opinion, why are there so many students that don't go on to second year?
One of the doctors that I work with went to NYU. He told me that they do kick out some of the students but I didn't really get to ask him why. Is it like the poster above said, do they decide to drop out? or do they get kicked out because they failed many classes? What do you think it is?
It's just a little scary that after you finally get into dental school, you don't get to finish. I'm applying next year, and NYU is definitely one of the schools I wan to apply to.

kick out so many students? can you provide a link with numbers?

we lost 3-4 to transfers (mainly Canadians, and one to Houston)
one AFAIK got kicked out for failing too many classes
one left for personal reasons
Add maybe one or two more because I dont know everyone in the class.
Its less than 10 out of 240-50 starting D1's, not 15% like I see thrown out on these forums.

No its not scary. I would not want a dentist not capable of handling the rigors of dental school working on me. Just because you get in does not mean you belong there, I think it is the same at every dental school. Only those that are capable of learning everything that needs to be learned should go on to become a Dr. of any sort. The school does not come after anyone, if you get kicked out, I have no clue what you were doing with your free time.... It is so easy to pass and get C's.

 

[musl85]

Hey,
On the NYUCD website it says the tuition is around 62 grand a year which would work out to 250k total for 4 years in school. Then I look at Predents.com and it claims that amount is under 200k (for out of state).
So, am I missing something or is Predents.com just not accurate here?

predents is pretty outdated.

 

[lekso]

kick out so many students? can you provide a link with numbers?

we lost 3-4 to transfers (mainly Canadians, and one to Houston)
one AFAIK got kicked out for failing too many classes
one left for personal reasons
Add maybe one or two more because I dont know everyone in the class.
Its less than 10 out of 240-50 starting D1's, not 15% like I see thrown out on these forums.

No its not scary. I would not want a dentist not capable of handling the rigors of dental school working on me. Just because you get in does not mean you belong there, I think it is the same at every dental school. Only those that are capable of learning everything that needs to be learned should go on to become a Dr. of any sort. The school does not come after anyone, if you get kicked out, I have no clue what you were doing with your free time.... It is so easy to pass and get C's.

haha Maybe I should reword that to "some students." It's just a misconception that many people, like myself, have. I was just basing that on what the doctor told me, but he didn't give me any sources, it was probably just his opinion or was exaggerating. But it's good to see that it's not entirely true. That makes me feel much safer about applying there. Also in the link posted above about one of your classmates that has a blog, he kida mentioned something about that.

http://dentulous.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/its-all-downhill-from-here/

It's not an official source, but it's also something coming from a student at nyu. That's why we tend to make assumptions.

Thanks for your response though!

 

[Sephisabin]

haha Maybe I should reword that to "some students." It's just a misconception that many people, like myself, have. I was just basing that on what the doctor told me, but he didn't give me any sources, it was probably just his opinion or was exaggerating. But it's good to see that it's not entirely true. That makes me feel much safer about applying there. Also in the link posted above about one of your classmates that has a blog, he kida mentioned something about that.

http://dentulous.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/its-all-downhill-from-here/

It's not an official source, but it's also something coming from a student at nyu. That's why we tend to make assumptions.

Thanks for your response though!

I'm confused... what assumption are you making? Did you actually READ what he said?

"The othersubject i think i should broach is the topic of NYU kicking out 10-20% of the D1 class, mainly to make room for the 100+ FTD coming in during D2 year. This is utter nonesense. MAkes no sense for a school to ruin it’s own reputation by doing something ridiculous like that. The administration at the school are very caring and involved. We get many emails from them constantly congratulating the class on their performance and reminding them that they can always come and talk to them if they are feeling overwhelmed."

 

[lekso]

I'm confused... what assumption are you making? Did you actually READ what he said?

"The othersubject i think i should broach is the topic of NYU kicking out 10-20% of the D1 class, mainly to make room for the 100+ FTD coming in during D2 year. This is utter nonesense. MAkes no sense for a school to ruin it’s own reputation by doing something ridiculous like that. The administration at the school are very caring and involved. We get many emails from them constantly congratulating the class on their performance and reminding them that they can always come and talk to them if they are feeling overwhelmed."

ouch.. Seems like I'm gonna have problems with the RC on the DAT.
Thanks for the clarification though!