Anyone actually truly enjoy working for CVS?

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MountainPharmD said:
Around here CVS pays more than any other chain. They have to or they wouldnt be able to hire anyone. CVS attracts the bottom of the barrel pharmacists who care only about the money or cant get a job anywhere else. The rest of the positions are filled by H1B visa holders.
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Mountain are you not working in the DFW area? I know Pharmacist in various chains and out of the big boy(CVS, Walgreens, Wal-Mart, TargetTom Thumb, Krogers) the pay rate is very close at most a 2 to 3 dollar an hour difference.
 
Ackj said:
That would assume that CVS and Walgreens are also completely different. I have not worked for them, but I'm pretty sure there is little difference between them in both work and salary. Now talk to me about income working in a grocery chain versus working in a CVS. I'm sure many pharmacists would pick filling 200 rx/day over 500, so why do they pick the tougher job? I would say salary is a factor.

Back to your original statement, you honestly think 25,000 people would simply walk away from a job paying six figures and hit the unemployment line? You are just dead wrong. Now if there was another job they could switch to, with a comparable salary, yes. If some new chain opened up with 25,000 positions, and no timers on the ringing phone, timers on the drive through, etc, you would see pharmacists jumping on board.

Look, you seem to like your job, and that's great. I don't know what goes on in your particular store, but clearly it is far superior to what goes on in all of the above posters. Just because they don't like their job (which you are equally uninformed about their stores) doesn't mean you have to jump to the company's rescue. The thread's title asks, "Anyone actually truly enjoy working for CVS?" Your best response would have been "Yes, I do."
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I actually worked for Albertsons where on average I did 800 scripts a week with no drive thru an was paid a nice six figure salary. I now work at a store averaging 4600 scripts a week and honestly I like a faster volume pace- to each his/her own- but to me Retail is Retail- when I was with Albertsons there were plenty of Pharmacist who complained about various aspects of the business and none of the stores were what I called "busy" but some Pharmacist complained about the hours- some complained about not having techs on the weekends and these were stores that were very slow compared to what CVS and Walgreens were doing in terms of scripts. So are you guys telling me that Pharmacist who work for the Supermarket chains all love their jobs and have no stress levels?
 
RXnupe, Retail used to be the same everywhere you went 10 yrs ago. It's changed much since then. You've seen consolidation and a surplus of pharmacists. You've also seen a further reduction in margins. The implementation of gov't healthcare won't help either. This has all forced chains to require more annoying things of their employees to try to improve what they think is great service. Their idea of great service at CVS has little to do with actual pharmaceutical care. The store you're working in provides little in the way of pharmaceutical care. It's more like pharmaceutical carelessness. Let yourself rack up some misfills in that high volume store and we'll see how you feel then. They'll place you in their misfill program and act like they care.

If you compare CVS vs Walmart vs Supervalu you're going to find greater differences now then you did in the past.
 
Rxnupe said:
I actually worked for Albertsons where on average I did 800 scripts a week with no drive thru an was paid a nice six figure salary. I now work at a store averaging 4600 scripts a week and honestly I like a faster volume pace- to each his/her own- but to me Retail is Retail- when I was with Albertsons there were plenty of Pharmacist who complained about various aspects of the business and none of the stores were what I called "busy" but some Pharmacist complained about the hours- some complained about not having techs on the weekends and these were stores that were very slow compared to what CVS and Walgreens were doing in terms of scripts. So are you guys telling me that Pharmacist who work for the Supermarket chains all love their jobs and have no stress levels?
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Nope, not saying that at all. Retail is retail however CVS is a whole other level of hell. I would say retail is retail except for CVS which is much, much worse. A good example is staffing. I do half the volume of CVS that is very close to me and I have double the staff. The working conditions are so dangerous at CVS its a metter of time before it blows up in their face and many people are seriously injured or killed. CVS is very quick to settle problems out of court with nondisclosure aggrements. Even so this is a problem they will not be able to buy their way
 
MountainPharmD said:
Nope, not saying that at all. Retail is retail however CVS is a whole other level of hell. I would say retail is retail except for CVS which is much, much worse. A good example is staffing. I do half the volume of CVS that is very close to me and I have double the staff. The working conditions are so dangerous at CVS its a metter of time before it blows up in their face and many people are seriously injured or killed. CVS is very quick to settle problems out of court with nondisclosure aggrements. Even so this is a problem they will not be able to buy their way
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You have double the volume compared to what CVS location? Because honestly something is wrong with the picture- if you are doing 50 scripts a day as you have mentioned- but I am sure you are doing more than because I doubt a pharmacy would stay in business doing 50 scripts a day, but what are you saying you have overlap and 5 techs on staff at all times? I would find that hard to believe since in Texas you have to go by a certain tech/pharmacist ration. I would like to know what CVS is close to you- because trust me I have access to all the CVS in Dallas/Mesquite/ Garland and know their volume level- most of them are adequately staffed at least during peak hours- so if you are doing half the volume with double the staff than you are either violating the Board of Pharmacy tech/Pharmacist ratio are you are exaggerating big time. However, from a business point of view- if you are doing so much less why have so many employees if the volume does not justify the ratio?
 
MountainPharmD said:
Nope, not saying that at all. Retail is retail however CVS is a whole other level of hell. I would say retail is retail except for CVS which is much, much worse. A good example is staffing. I do half the volume of CVS that is very close to me and I have double the staff. The working conditions are so dangerous at CVS its a metter of time before it blows up in their face and many people are seriously injured or killed. CVS is very quick to settle problems out of court with nondisclosure aggrements. Even so this is a problem they will not be able to buy their way
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This is one reason why the Phar-Mor chain collapsed about 10 years ago. I did some relief work for them, and one time, a cashier picked up a prescription on her break and said, "I can't believe this place stays open, with all the complaints we hear about the pharmacy."

Why did people patronize Phar-Mor even though they had to wait forever, etc.? They had a 10% discount for senior citizens, which for a lot of people in those pre-Medicare Part D(isaster) days was a big chunk o'change.
 
rph3664 said:
This is one reason why the Phar-Mor chain collapsed about 10 years ago. I did some relief work for them, and one time, a cashier picked up a prescription on her break and said, "I can't believe this place stays open, with all the complaints we hear about the pharmacy."

Why did people patronize Phar-Mor even though they had to wait forever, etc.? They had a 10% discount for senior citizens, which for a lot of people in those pre-Medicare Part D(isaster) days was a big chunk o'change.
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However, MPD fails to mention that not all CVS Pharmacies are doing 4000 plus a week- so I wonder if he thinks the "low" CVS are dangerous places to work too?-
 
I really hope readers are not stupid enough to believe that EVERY CVS is awful and every store in all other chains is better than CVS. In general, my friends who work for CVS locally are very happy. The real hellhole in this area seems to be Wal-Mart, if my pharmacist friends are to be believed. It varies by store, by city, by region, by DM, by who is working, etc. YMMV.
 
All4MyDaughter said:
I really hope readers are not stupid enough to believe that EVERY CVS is awful and every store in all other chains is better than CVS. In general, my friends who work for CVS locally are very happy. The real hellhole in this area seems to be Wal-Mart, if my pharmacist friends are to be believed. It varies by store, by city, by region, by DM, by who is working, etc. YMMV.
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AllMyDaughter God Bless you- you rule- this is what I have been saying all along- I am very Happy with CVS- there may be some Pharmacist who hate it- but Mountain PharmD wants to give the impression that every Pharmacist hates CVS and that every store is bad- Retail i retail for goodness sake- as I was saying when I worked with Albertsons there were some miserable pharmacist who were doing 100 scripts a day. Retail is what you make of it- point blank end of story!!!!
 
Rxnupe said:
However, MPD fails to mention that not all CVS Pharmacies are doing 4000 plus a week- so I wonder if he thinks the "low" CVS are dangerous places to work too?-
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Of course. I've worked at both - a busy CVS and a slow CVS. Both were terrible. The busy store was chaotic, and the slow store was a pressure cooker with people staring you down.

At the CVS where I did my rotations, there was no anti-fatigue mat. It was horrible. Even cashiers at WalMart have anti-fatigue mats. :scared:
 
Rxnupe said:
You have double the volume compared to what CVS location? Because honestly something is wrong with the picture- if you are doing 50 scripts a day as you have mentioned- but I am sure you are doing more than because I doubt a pharmacy would stay in business doing 50 scripts a day, but what are you saying you have overlap and 5 techs on staff at all times? I would find that hard to believe since in Texas you have to go by a certain tech/pharmacist ration. I would like to know what CVS is close to you- because trust me I have access to all the CVS in Dallas/Mesquite/ Garland and know their volume level- most of them are adequately staffed at least during peak hours- so if you are doing half the volume with double the staff than you are either violating the Board of Pharmacy tech/Pharmacist ratio are you are exaggerating big time. However, from a business point of view- if you are doing so much less why have so many employees if the volume does not justify the ratio?
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Damn dude, you do not pay attention very well do you? Probably why you fit in well at CVS. All you care about is pressing the button on the computer as fast as you can ignoring all else. I guess that's one way to survive at CVS. Have a very short attention span and do not pay attention to detail. Makes those 700 scripts a day slide right out the door when you are not really paying any attention to them. Now I know your secret!

But wait!!! The high point of Pharmacy, the very pinnacle of the profession, what separates the good from the bad is how many precriptions you can push out the door in as little time as possible. All this time I didn't realize high volume and poor staffing is the real practice of Pharmacy! I have been so mislead and lied to!! I should get a job at CVS immediatly so I can start practicing "real" pharmacy. So I can learn how to handle the "real work" of Pharmacy and learn to "handle the volume".

Can I come work at your store so you can teach me how to really practice pharmacy? I have so much to learn...I mean to forget so I can be just like you!
 
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MountainPharmD said:
Damn dude, you do not pay attention very well do you? Probably why you fit in well at CVS. All you care about is pressing the button on the computer as fast as you can ignoring all else. I guess that's one way to survive at CVS. Have a very short attention span and do not pay attention to detail. Makes those 700 scripts a day slide right out the door when you are not really paying any attention to them. Now I know your secret!

But wait!!! The high point of Pharmacy, the very pinnacle of the profession, what separates the good from the bad is how many precriptions you can push out the door in as little time as possible. All this time I didn't realize high volume and poor staffing is the real practice of Pharmacy! I have been so mislead and lied to!! I should get a job at CVS immediatly so I can start practicing "real" pharmacy. So I can learn how to handle the "real work" of Pharmacy and learn to "handle the volume".

Can I come work at your store so you can teach me how to really practice pharmacy? I have so much to learn...I mean to forget so I can be just like you!
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Mountain so by your logic are you saying low volume stores do not make errors???? Because I can give you links to documented cases where deadly misfills have happened at low volume stores. You are obviously a grouch that does nothing but complain and say if I remember correct you worked at Safeway and quit for some obscure reason- how many were you doing at Safeway 100 a day and it caused you to quit? did you quit because their policy is the Pharmacist has to count and put all the pills in the bottle and the tech couldn't therefore you had to actually do some "work"? You are really funny!!!!
 
Rxnupe said:
Mountain so by your logic are you saying low volume stores do not make errors???? Because I can give you links to documented cases where deadly misfills have happened at low volume stores.
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I don't think it takes a genius to realize his point: although mistakes can/do happen in any setting, many more errors are bound to happen in pharmacies where the pharmacists are pushed to their limits (ie: CVS).

I really hope you are arguing just for the sake of arguing, and that you don't really believe most of what you are saying....
 
I don't know about everyone else working at CVS, but yesterday was a complete ****storm. I've only been a pharmacist for 6 months and they decide to move me from one of the slowest stores in the district to one of the busiest, and my first day was yesterday.

Add it up: first week of the new year, essentially the first day of the year since the 2nd was still considered a holiday in most doctor's offices, and on top of all that, we get every express scripts customer that was going to the Wag's accross the street. We had 1 hr + wait times and were just asking people to come back another day whenever possible. I'm sure my lack of speed/experience contributed, but it just doesn't seem like it should have happened. The only reason things didn't completely fall apart at the seams is we asked one of the front store staff to help us run the registers for a few hours.

It remains to be seen what will happen when things settle down later in the month, but I certainly hope it's not this bad.
 
Mentis said:
I don't know about everyone else working at CVS, but yesterday was a complete ****storm. I've only been a pharmacist for 6 months and they decide to move me from one of the slowest stores in the district to one of the busiest, and my first day was yesterday.

Add it up: first week of the new year, essentially the first day of the year since the 2nd was still considered a holiday in most doctor's offices, and on top of all that, we get every express scripts customer that was going to the Wag's accross the street. We had 1 hr + wait times and were just asking people to come back another day whenever possible. I'm sure my lack of speed/experience contributed, but it just doesn't seem like it should have happened. The only reason things didn't completely fall apart at the seams is we asked one of the front store staff to help us run the registers for a few hours.

It remains to be seen what will happen when things settle down later in the month, but I certainly hope it's not this bad.
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Mentis yesterday was hell for me as well- as I mentioned I did 80 plus transfer myself alone- thank goodness they have transfersafe on rxnet- it will ease the time- but generally the 1st week of the New Year is hectic- high volume due to the 1st of the month and also people's insurance expiring along with the other everyday issues.
 
Mentis, I hate to tell you but it doesn't get any better at CVS. They really act as if the company is going under. Enough is never enough there. When they merged with Caremark the company went from bad to worse. PBM's hate pharmacists and it shows there. They use a form of management called Pacesetting. It demands results with little care given to the employees. It results in short term gains but high employee turnover.
 
SZ251 said:
I don't think it takes a genius to realize his point: although mistakes can/do happen in any setting, many more errors are bound to happen in pharmacies where the pharmacists are pushed to their limits (ie: CVS).

I really hope you are arguing just for the sake of arguing, and that you don't really believe most of what you are saying....
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pushed to the point in what way???I verify at my own speed and paceI get my 30 minute breaks- if I have a lot of voice mails to answer or flu shots I just tell the tech no waiters until I am back at my station at my location the most I ever work w/o overlap is 5 hours top- normally it's 4- but if somehow Mountain has you guys thinking that I am just verifying prescriptions at a super speed he's got me all wrong. CVS nor my Sup is going to push me to do anything legal or dangerous to myself so I have no idea what you guys are talking about- the only difference between me and let's say a pharmacist at WAGS or Wal-Mart that is working at a high volume is that there's a period of the day where I have to take about 20 minutes max and make mandatory Day 7 calls which are calls to patients who haven't picked up their meds in 7 days- the longest I have had to do that was 30 minutes, but when I do make those calls I have overlap- maybe you guys need to visit my store because this idea that all hell is breaking loose is a misconception.
 
Rxnupe - I know, I was prepared for busy, but this was crazy. I just wish it wasn't my first day at that store. I didn't even get to do any of the transfers for the next day because I as stuck doing waiters all day.

Where in rxnet is that transfersafe thing? The only thing we were told about is their new transfer line. I get grief from Wags for not having Rx numbers, but good luck finding patients who actually know them.
 
Just a quick question- Why don't all pharmacists go in strike for more pay? Honestly, for 6 years or more of education and for the huge taxes here in the US, I don't think the pharmacist salary is good enough to live with.
 
MShopes said:
Just a quick question- Why don't all pharmacists go in strike for more pay? Honestly, for 6 years or more of education and for the huge taxes here in the US, I don't think the pharmacist salary is good enough to live with.
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lol 120-140k is not enough for you???
 
MShopes said:
Just a quick question- Why don't all pharmacists go in strike for more pay? Honestly, for 6 years or more of education and for the huge taxes here in the US, I don't think the pharmacist salary is good enough to live with.
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Are you serious- my original offer was 86k a year(2002) the last few years I have average anywhere between 120 to 130k- that's way more than the average median FAMILY salary- if you have any Pharmacist complaining about how much they make- they must be on some drugs.
 
Mentis said:
Rxnupe - I know, I was prepared for busy, but this was crazy. I just wish it wasn't my first day at that store. I didn't even get to do any of the transfers for the next day because I as stuck doing waiters all day.

Where in rxnet is that transfersafe thing? The only thing we were told about is their new transfer line. I get grief from Wags for not having Rx numbers, but good luck finding patients who actually know them.
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It's under State references on rxnet- you will see a link to TransferSafe- the only thing you will need is the rx number and the the person's DOB its much faster- but you can't do controls.
 
MShopes said:
Just a quick question- Why don't all pharmacists go in strike for more pay? Honestly, for 6 years or more of education and for the huge taxes here in the US, I don't think the pharmacist salary is good enough to live with.
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Young Pre-Pharmacy student, the pay is not the problem. We are compensated very well. It is the conditions we are forced to work under by giant corporations that do not give a rats ass about the practice of pharmacy that is the problem. If you cannot live the high life on 140k a year then you have problems..
 
Rxnupe said:
Mountain so by your logic are you saying low volume stores do not make errors???? Because I can give you links to documented cases where deadly misfills have happened at low volume stores. You are obviously a grouch that does nothing but complain and say if I remember correct you worked at Safeway and quit for some obscure reason- how many were you doing at Safeway 100 a day and it caused you to quit? did you quit because their policy is the Pharmacist has to count and put all the pills in the bottle and the tech couldn't therefore you had to actually do some "work"? You are really funny!!!!
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I swear to God I could post a single sentence and you could f-it up and miss the point.

Mountain says; "Rxnupe the sky is blue"

Rxnupe replies; "Mountain so by your logic are you saying that the sky is green. I can show you that you are a big old meanie grouch who sits around and fills 2 scripts a day and complains. You can't handle the work or the volume so STFU and go fill 2 scripts. Oh and CVS is the greatest in the world. I love them and I am Tom Ryans lost love child...CVS is great blah, blah, blah ad nauseam to infinity CVS is great."

Not only do you totally miss the point but you sound ridiculous doing it. Not a good combo!
 
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Rxnupe said:
Are you serious- my original offer was 86k a year(2002) the last few years I have average anywhere between 120 to 130k- that's way more than the average median FAMILY salary- if you have any Pharmacist complaining about how much they make- they must be on some drugs.
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And with the taxes, how much do you actually make? At least cut 30 % of that. For 6+ years of school, I don't see it as enough....check how much dentists make and the schooling is almost the same as ours.

And please nobody think I'm all about the money because I was a pre-med first and just decided pharmacy after my pharmacist sister talked to me about her business in other country.
 
MountainPharmD said:
Young Pre-Pharmacy student, the pay is not the problem. We are compensated very well. It is the conditions we are forced to work under by giant corporations that do not give a rats ass about the practice of pharmacy that is the problem. If you cannot live the high life on 140k a year then you have problems..
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What 140k are you talking about? I haven't heard of any pharmacists starting at 140k unless they are doing overtime or have been in the field for a while. Plus the 140k is not what you take home. It's the pre-tax.

And I wasn't talking about just a simple life with a small house or apartment rented and just enough to live each month while saving a little. I'm talking about the luxury life of driving a brand name car and mortgage a big house...etc.

I can't understand why some people that I know think they are smart because they are going into pharmacy to get 100K+ salary after at least 6 years of school. That's exactly the fair amount of salary we all should receive after all this schooling. Give me one other job with at least 6 years of schooling that don't offer the same salary or more, and that's excluding the PGY1 PGY2 residency of pharmacy and assuming someone finished and get accepted to pharmacy school in time.
 
lol @140k gross from a single earner as being barely enough for a small house and just a little savings. Must be nice to think of that as being a trifling amount.
 
owlegrad said:
lol @140k gross from a single earner as being barely enough for a small house and just a little savings. Must be nice to think of that as being a trifling amount.
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Like I said, the 140k is not what you take home. Cut at least 40k for taxes. Plus yea I might be a single earner but I for sure have big family to support in my country who are near the poverty line. Plus I will be married by the time I graduate so put that into account too.

And give me one person who actually starts at 140k salary...
 
MShopes said:
Like I said, the 140k is not what you take home. Cut at least 40k for taxes. Plus yea I might be a single earner but I for sure have big family to support in my country who are near the poverty line. Plus I will be married by the time I graduate so put that into account too.

And give me one person who actually starts at 140k salary...
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Pharmacists make a lot of money. 140K, 100K, whatever. It's a very high salary. My husband and I have lived very comfortably on much less the entire time I've been in school/residency. And we have kids.

MShopes said:
Yea I'm a NYC person and things here are really expensive, just too expensive.
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That's your issue. Your high salary buys less in the area where you've chosen to live. If having a large home, expensive car, etc are priorities for you, then it might be worth considering a move to an area where your salary will buy you the lifestyle you desire.
 
Allow me to comment on this post since I do work for CVS for almost 3 years now... cvs where I work is average busy store with 2400/week volume. I have experienced staff in morning and rockies in evening. Still its not horrible place to work at. I can manage it very well. We used to have 8 hours of overlap but some how few months before they decided to cut down to 4 hours of overlap. We were beating budget every single week sometimes by 150-200 scripts. Now from last week, our sup told us that they are cutting down overlap for all 24 hr stores in our district regardless of volume. They decided to save some $5 milllion for our region. I might agree that they have to cut money and pharmacist is the first place to go but this is the busiest time of season with all new insurance and express scripts transfers that take an hour to complete.... I did not like it. If the really want to save money they could have cut night pharmacist's extra 4 hours of pay which they get without even working for them. Other than that if I have all right people at right time, I can handle the store any given day....
 
so how many hours of overlap do you have so we know that your 4600/week scripts in not done only by you but its a team effort including your overlap pharmacist. Just wait until they take all those overlap hours and feel the pressure...
 
rickyroxy said:
so how many hours of overlap do you have so we know that your 4600/week scripts in not done only by you but its a team effort including your overlap pharmacist. Just wait until they take all those overlap hours and feel the pressure...
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Rxnupe said:
pushed to the point in what way???I verify at my own speed and paceI get my 30 minute breaks- if I have a lot of voice mails to answer or flu shots I just tell the tech no waiters until I am back at my station at my location the most I ever work w/o overlap is 5 hours top- normally it's 4- but if somehow Mountain has you guys thinking that I am just verifying prescriptions at a super speed he's got me all wrong. CVS nor my Sup is going to push me to do anything legal or dangerous to myself so I have no idea what you guys are talking about- the only difference between me and let's say a pharmacist at WAGS or Wal-Mart that is working at a high volume is that there's a period of the day where I have to take about 20 minutes max and make mandatory Day 7 calls which are calls to patients who haven't picked up their meds in 7 days- the longest I have had to do that was 30 minutes, but when I do make those calls I have overlap- maybe you guys need to visit my store because this idea that all hell is breaking loose is a misconception.
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so how many hours of overlap do you have so we know that your 4600/week scripts in not done only by you but its a team effort including your overlap pharmacist. Just wait until they take all those overlap hours and feel the pressure...
 
owlegrad said:
I am sorry to post something this non-contributory, but "alot of we" is a criminal offense against the English language.
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Just don't waste your time correcting people's grammar and if you decide to do so then don't feel sorry about. Why don't you just change your profession to proof reading. Its online forum. People can do typos if you don't like it then just leave it alone so I don't have to waste my time posting this comment....
 
MountainPharmD said:
Around here CVS pays more than any other chain. They have to or they wouldnt be able to hire anyone. CVS attracts the bottom of the barrel pharmacists who care only about the money or cant get a job anywhere else. The rest of the positions are filled by H1B visa holders.
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heloo,,, just keep this comment to your self. I am a cvs pharmacist and an h1b visa holder. Just don't make me go over all technicalities why I am here and why I am doing this job but just because you are an h1b holder and work for cvs does not make you a bad pharmacist. I work at a place where there are us citizens who can not get the position I am working at. There must be something in me that they are keeping me instead of all other surplus pharmacist we have in this area.... The dynamics of getting to a job could be different but once you reach at same point its just difference between individual capabilities and performance.👍
 
rickyroxy said:
Just don't waste your time correcting people's grammar and if you decide to do so then don't feel sorry about. Why don't you just change your profession to proof reading. Its online forum. People can do typos if you don't like it then just leave it alone so I don't have to waste my time posting this comment....
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Sorry to have wasted your time.
 
MShopes said:
Like I said, the 140k is not what you take home. Cut at least 40k for taxes. Plus yea I might be a single earner but I for sure have big family to support in my country who are near the poverty line. Plus I will be married by the time I graduate so put that into account too.

And give me one person who actually starts at 140k salary...
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I'm starting out with that. Some of my classmates are also starting at that amount and possible higher with bonus at pic positions after about 6-12 months of working staff. The salary in pharmacy is still very good and is keeping up well with inflation.
 
jasonkido said:
I'm starting out with that. Some of my classmates are also starting at that amount and possible higher with bonus at pic positions after about 6-12 months of working staff. The salary in pharmacy is still very good and is keeping up well with inflation.
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Wait what? Where do you work? Which state? And that's just normal hours or some overtime?
 
rickyroxy said:
heloo,,, just keep this comment to your self. I am a cvs pharmacist and an h1b visa holder. Just don't make me go over all technicalities why I am here and why I am doing this job but just because you are an h1b holder and work for cvs does not make you a bad pharmacist. I work at a place where there are us citizens who can not get the position I am working at. There must be something in me that they are keeping me instead of all other surplus pharmacist we have in this area.... The dynamics of getting to a job could be different but once you reach at same point its just difference between individual capabilities and performance.👍
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Yeah I think it is the same reason why they hire less and less of you every year. I, like many pharmacists who are actually from the states and/or did our education here, personally can't wait until H1B space-holders are a thing of the past. It would be nice if they did it now before more saturation takes effect.

I do agree that there are many pharmacy jobs American pharmacists don't want which enables DM's and whatnot to take advantage of the H1B visa holders, especially during the epic shortage where they were relied on to keep the chains open. But the bottom line is at this point in time H1B visa holders shouldn't be here, as you don't really provide any useful "capabilities and performance" at this stage other than taking up jobs.
 
Hib holders are to some degree endentured servants. They are unlikely to speak up about poor working conditions after their employers were so financially involved in facilitating their entry. They are contributing to the race to the bottom in retail pharmacy.
 
Unchained said:
Hib holders are to some degree endentured servants. They are unlikely to speak up about poor working conditions after their employers were so financially involved in facilitating their entry. They are contributing to the race to the bottom in retail pharmacy.
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I completely agree
 
StevePerry said:
Yeah I think it is the same reason why they hire less and less of you every year. I, like many pharmacists who are actually from the states and/or did our education here, personally can't wait until H1B space-holders are a thing of the past. It would be nice if they did it now before more saturation takes effect.

I do agree that there are many pharmacy jobs American pharmacists don't want which enables DM's and whatnot to take advantage of the H1B visa holders, especially during the epic shortage where they were relied on to keep the chains open. But the bottom line is at this point in time H1B visa holders shouldn't be here, as you don't really provide any useful "capabilities and performance" at this stage other than taking up jobs.
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its ok... stop complaining. If you are capable enough you will get job. I have 4 years of undergraduate degree, 2 years of masters and also Pharm.D. from here. America is a place of immigrants. Read history if you have not done so. I am not illegal here, I chose the path that is approved by government and reach this stage. I will get green card and will be a us citizen soon... what would you complain after that?? I took your job, I occupied your country..... >??
 
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