Anyone for NBDE PART 2 in MARCH 2011

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toothfairyqueen said:
hey guys where have u reached??? a day more for endo!!! no news from anyone today....
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Hey toothfairyqueen,
Great thread, just logged on to sdn a couple of days back after a long break !!! could i join the conquerers , incidently i had started with endo and have finsihed it. I was planning on O.S but since u guys are doing opath i can do that too .
I have a few questions in endo : There are some differences in mosbys and dental decks , so which one to follow, for example in the topic of management of avulsed teeth there are major differences in extraoral drytime in decks ( 2007) and mosbys . Can you tell me what you guys are following? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!
 
kool k said:
Hey toothfairyqueen,
Great thread, just logged on to sdn a couple of days back after a long break !!! could i join the conquerers , incidently i had started with endo and have finsihed it. I was planning on O.S but since u guys are doing opath i can do that too .
I have a few questions in endo : There are some differences in mosbys and dental decks , so which one to follow, for example in the topic of management of avulsed teeth there are major differences in extraoral drytime in decks ( 2007) and mosbys . Can you tell me what you guys are following? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!
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ya this was really confusing I agree...
what I think is.if AVULSION> 60 minutes or 2hrs dry time with closed apex, both deks n mosbys agree on 1st 2 points as follows
1. CURETTE socket GENTLY & remove clot and irrigate
2. REmove necrotic PDL& Debris from root surface
3. PLACE IN 2.4 % Na F soln....now here we have 2 options
you can either do RCT prior to placing bak in socket
or do RCT 7-10 days later
If you plan RCT before replanting ....immerse in Na F soln for 20 min
If you plan on RCT after 7-10 days immerse in soln for 5 min
4. Replat with slight digital pressure
stabilize with PHYSIOLOGICAL splint for 2 weeks 🙂
I hope this helps
 
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i agee with aims.. exactly....
tomo on we are on oral path guys.. studying has turned so exciting with this group of conquerers..... good luck all.. lets do oral path!!! welcome kool k 🙂
 
toothfairyqueen said:
i agee with aims.. exactly....
tomo on we are on oral path guys.. studying has turned so exciting with this group of conquerers..... good luck all.. lets do oral path!!! welcome kool k 🙂
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hey tooth fairy ... having severe trouble with oral path as usuasl started nonn odontogenic tumors... n feels like the more i read the more evrything gets jumbled up especially the card no 93.....how can we retain all this info??????? this i s bothering me alot all info getting mixed up!!!!:scared:
 
card 93 : central giant cell granuloma.... One thing i love oral path is tht one doesnt need to cram.. the question gives you the answer
central= in bone
peripheral= not in bone, but outside
giant cell= histo app with multinucleaed giant cells pathognomic of a granuloma
granuloma= tissue with inflammatory cells + giant cells+ epitheloid cells + neovascularisation...

just split the words, u wud be good..... enjoy the words.. best thing to learn in oral path is the dictionary.. know the meaning of the words of "pathology you are studying"
 
toothfairyqueen said:
i agee with aims.. exactly....
tomo on we are on oral path guys.. studying has turned so exciting with this group of conquerers..... good luck all.. lets do oral path!!! welcome kool k 🙂
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toothfairyqueen said:
card 93 : central giant cell granuloma.... One thing i love oral path is tht one doesnt need to cram.. the question gives you the answer
central= in bone
peripheral= not in bone, but outside
giant cell= histo app with multinucleaed giant cells pathognomic of a granuloma
granuloma= tissue with inflammatory cells + giant cells+ epitheloid cells +
neovascularisation...
just split the words, u wud be good..... enjoy the words.. best thing to learn in oral path is the dictionary.. know the meaning of the words of "pathology you are studying"
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Thanks for replyin... i know this is really self explanatory .... i am talking about all the info at the back of cards...e.g age of occurence , maxilla vs mandible, male or female predilection,clinical features, associated abnormalities like spleenomegaly etc etc,systemic organs involved associated symptoms, D/D of all lesions etc which one can not infer from the names🙁
 
this is the time to go throught the subject well.. by the time we reach to the released exams.... you wud be able to figure out this... and wud remember them wen u see the question.... so just go through it ,with concentration without questioning urself if u wud recall or not... wen u r done with decks.. just pick the cards randomly or ask any one around you to pick 10 cards fr u.. and score urself...also read the bk of card.... hope tht fills u wid confidence...
 
i guess oral path should be over till thursday... friday we start with next subject....
 
Hi Toothfairyqueen .. I have logged on to SDN after a long gap. I would really like to join you guys as I am taking NBDE part2 in March/april too. I can see you guys are studying oral Path till Thursday, I can join you all from oral path and meanwhile I will manage to finish oprative and endo.

please count me in ..
 
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aims said:
ya this was really confusing I agree...
what I think is.if AVULSION> 60 minutes or 2hrs dry time with closed apex, both deks n mosbys agree on 1st 2 points as follows
1. CURETTE socket GENTLY & remove clot and irrigate
2. REmove necrotic PDL& Debris from root surface
3. PLACE IN 2.4 % Na F soln....now here we have 2 options
you can either do RCT prior to placing bak in socket
or do RCT 7-10 days later
If you plan RCT before replanting ....immerse in Na F soln for 20 min
If you plan on RCT after 7-10 days immerse in soln for 5 min
4. Replat with slight digital pressure
stabilize with PHYSIOLOGICAL splint for 2 weeks 🙂
I hope this helps
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Hey aims,
Thanks!!! That clears the confusion a little bit .I read your post regarding Opath and the problems you are facing with it , I completely agree with you that opath is not a very easy subject, what i m doing is making a chart for a compartive study of the lesions, so that i can go through it everyday , otherwise as i knw myself i wouldnt be able to remember opath at the end.Hope it helps!!!
 
I am struggling with Opath as well. I am not sure whether I can do it by Thursday I am thinking it will take me at least till Saturday to have a basic grasp of the subject.
 
then let it be saturday.... but no later thn that guys..... yeah oral path is a time consuming subject...
 
Hi ,

I am starting my preparation from today to part 2.I want to join you all to keeep myself motivated.How many hours you are putting in per day??I want to give my exam definitely in the first week of March and no later than that due to some pressure.
Please help me to reach my goal.
Do you think this time frame is enough to conquer this??

Thanks all
 
dentbaby said:
Hi ,

I am starting my preparation from today to part 2.I want to join you all to keeep myself motivated.How many hours you are putting in per day??I want to give my exam definitely in the first week of March and no later than that due to some pressure.
Please help me to reach my goal.
Do you think this time frame is enough to conquer this??

Thanks all
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Hey hop in the choo choo train to success...evry one is welcome, join in and try to complete by dead line . for oral path which is around sat I guess ...although i think even months for this subject alone is not enough ...but hopefull we ll do it IA..
 
aims said:
Hey hop in the choo choo train to success...evry one is welcome, join in and try to complete by dead line . for oral path which is around sat I guess ...although i think even months for this subject alone is not enough ...but hopefull we ll do it IA..
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Hey even I would like to join ur train. Its great whoever has started this thread.
I am studying O Path too. You guys are studying from decks and mosby rite? or also from the text?
 
@endodont ... we follow first decks and then mosby's.. both to be finished by saturday
 
How far are you done toothfairyqueen if you don't ming me asking. I am only done with the Odont and Non-Odont tumors/cysts, terms, and abnormalities of teeth. 🙁
 
hey guys need the answers for some endo questions.....seems a lil confusing
1.Which of the following conditions would NOT require antibiotic premedication before endodontic therapy?
A. Valvular heart disease.
B. Cardiac prosthesis.
C. Persistent odontogenic fistula.
D. Immuno-suppressive therapy.
E. Organ transplant
the key says valvular disease but i thought it was cardiac prosthesis.
2.Root canal therapy may be safely and successfully undertaken for
1. hemophiliacs.
2. patients with a history of rheumatic fever.
3. patients with rheumatoid arthritis.
4. cerebral palsy patients.
5. adolescent diabetics.
A. (2) (3) (4)
B. (2) (3) (5)
C. (1) (2) (3) (5)
D. All of the above.
E. None of the above. .
 
dentist 81 said:
hey guys need the answers for some endo questions.....seems a lil confusing
1.Which of the following conditions would NOT require antibiotic premedication before endodontic therapy?
A. Valvular heart disease.
B. Cardiac prosthesis.
C. Persistent odontogenic fistula.
D. Immuno-suppressive therapy.
E. Organ transplant
the key says valvular disease but i thought it was cardiac prosthesis.
2.Root canal therapy may be safely and successfully undertaken for
1. hemophiliacs.
2. patients with a history of rheumatic fever.
3. patients with rheumatoid arthritis.
4. cerebral palsy patients.
5. adolescent diabetics.
A. (2) (3) (4)
B. (2) (3) (5)
C. (1) (2) (3) (5)
D. All of the above.
E. None of the above. .
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In the first question ...the answer is valvular heart defect...coz it is congenital and does not make the patient prone to bacterial endocarditis whereas cardiac prosthesis patient is at avery high risk of Bact. endocarditisnot sure of 2nd question... ant help regarding it would be appreciated
 
hey aims is it not cardiac prosthesis as cardiac pacemakers r not premedicated.valvular heart disease is a primary reason for premedication rt?
 
dentist 81 said:
hey aims is it not cardiac prosthesis as cardiac pacemakers r not premedicated.valvular heart disease is a primary reason for premedication rt?
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i chekd the premedication for bacterial endocarditis in contemporry surgery pg 361
 
in kaplan notes its given cardiac pacemaker.thats why am really confused.
 
dentist 81 said:
hey guys need the answers for some endo questions.....seems a lil confusing
1.Which of the following conditions would NOT require antibiotic premedication before endodontic therapy?
A. Valvular heart disease.
B. Cardiac prosthesis.
C. Persistent odontogenic fistula.
D. Immuno-suppressive therapy.
E. Organ transplant
the key says valvular disease but i thought it was cardiac prosthesis.
2.Root canal therapy may be safely and successfully undertaken for
1. hemophiliacs.
2. patients with a history of rheumatic fever.
3. patients with rheumatoid arthritis.
4. cerebral palsy patients.
5. adolescent diabetics.
A. (2) (3) (4)
B. (2) (3) (5)
C. (1) (2) (3) (5)
D. All of the above.
E. None of the above. .
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Hey all ,
i dont knwo if i m right or not , but Re : 2nd question - mosby says in the section of endodontics page.4 , that the only contraindications to endodontic therapy are 1) uncontrolled diabetes
2) very recent myocardial infarction (past 6 months)
So i m guessing the answer is D.- all of the above
Reasons ( according to what i think ) : hemophiliacs - would have deficiency of clotting factors which would need to be replaced before performing any kind of dental treatment , so a physician's green signal required, but still safe to do it if pt is being given the clotting factors

adolescent diabetics- would Type I or juvenile diabetes -which has a tendency to be uncontrolled if not managed well , but the question does not state that its uncontrolled

Rheumatic fever, Rhematoid arthritis - endo tx can be performed after premed or physician clearance

cerebral palsy - is a group of disorders of the brain that hamper movement, learning, hearing, vision, and thinking. I dont see any reason for it to contra indicate endo tx.
Hope that helps
 
toothfairyqueen said:
anyone for nbde part 2 in march 2011... lets discuss here and help each other out.....common its just a matter of 90 days !!!!!!! i am too excited 🙂:xf:
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hi I need a study partner for part 2 let me know if u are intrested and we can help each other
 
toothfairyqueen said:
anyone for nbde part 2 in march 2011... lets discuss here and help each other out.....common its just a matter of 90 days !!!!!!! i am too excited 🙂:xf:
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i am intrested for thestudy partner for part 2 let me know if we can help each other🙂
 
@6789 i think mostof us have the latest decks 2011... and yes that is the mosby's book we are using....you just hop in and start with us for the next subject... till saturday we are onto oral path.. get you stuff till then....
@prodds we are all studying here by becoming study partners on SDN 🙂 i hope tht is an easier way of group study...
 
Opath so far has been painfully slow reading for me so far... It never seems to end 🙁
 
@sarika dont worry we'll get through just keep trying hard we have to do it by sat no matter what ...im also dragging myself with opath!!!
when we start oral surgery after it i hope it would be a better break for all.what do you guys say...?
 
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toothfairyqueen said:
@6789 i think mostof us have the latest decks 2011... and yes that is the mosby's book we are using....you just hop in and start with us for the next subject... till saturday we are onto oral path.. get you stuff till then....
@prodds we are all studying here by becoming study partners on SDN 🙂 i hope tht is an easier way of group study...
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Thanks toothfairy queen..I'll try getting the new decks but if not, will the older version do? I think the older one is 2008 edition.. Thanks,
 
6789 said:
Thanks toothfairy queen..I'll try getting the new decks but if not, will the older version do? I think the older one is 2008 edition.. Thanks,
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Hey I am using 2007 decks and I cant change my study material now. But has anyone compared the recent one with the recent version? Are there any new topics that are added? Hey all where hav u reached with O Path? I will complete the decks today.
 
Hi there were few additions to the new decks I noticed esp in endo and new notes section are added in opath as well so it is kind of personal decision and ur ability to analyse and be able to relate to stuff you know. Personally I think I did better by buying the new one despite having the older version..Anyways my studies are going slow esp after hearing about Temple already starting out its invitation process and I have not invited yet.Doing neoplasia right now and few topics random ones here and there but hopefully will be done by tomorrow.. And can't wait to start with Oral Surgery, hope it will be an easy read :xf:
 
yayyy!!!!last day of oral path.... i am so excited to begin oral surgery... are you guys doing well?????
 
I have still few topics remaining from decks. Hopefully will be done tonight :xf:..Are you done already?
 
i think it will take me another day for opath...carry on with surg ppl i ll catch up!!
 
hi guys i too plan to take part 2 in april , can i join in? i can too start with oral surgery and can we discuss questions too?
 
Sarika said:
Hi there were few additions to the new decks I noticed esp in endo and new notes section are added in opath as well so it is kind of personal decision and ur ability to analyse and be able to relate to stuff you know. Personally I think I did better by buying the new one despite having the older version..Anyways my studies are going slow esp after hearing about Temple already starting out its invitation process and I have not invited yet.Doing neoplasia right now and few topics random ones here and there but hopefully will be done by tomorrow.. And can't wait to start with Oral Surgery, hope it will be an easy read :xf:
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Thanks Sarika for ur input. Dont worry abt the interview call. Lets concentrate on studying for part 2.
 
The forum is getting awfully quite guys. How far are you guys done?? Provide some updates at least once in a while. I started with O.S today thought it would be an easy read after Opath but apparently not. Its not as bad but its not easy either. Almost done with the Anat section of decks... Keep the posts coming we need to motivate each other and keep going 🙂 Good luck to everyone.
 
done with adrenal cortex and anat...... sure its tooo much.. but we gotta do it
 
done with anat , tmj,and adrenal cortex from deks=) catch up sarika!!!! 😉
 
grt work aims and sarika.... lets finish anesthesia, biopsy & disordres/condtitions today from decks....
 
i think ill do misc n gen info 1st coz not in a mood to exert alot 🙂
 
Done with Adren cortex, Anat, Anesthesia form decks and studying Biopsy now..
keep up the good work guys .. 🙂
 
hey guys.. awesome thread.. i am joining you all.. hope to finish this asap.. and give this exam....

so now oral surgery is going on right??? I will also start from today itself... it was very dull studying alone.. i sarted oral path last month.. and wasnt aware of this thread.. and left studying.. now i am highly impressed with the speed and passion of you all...

keep all of us updated guys.. i will start oral surgery hence forth.
 
When do you guys think you will be done with OS?
 
hey guys.. can anyone paste the link for the syllabus about ADA for Part 2? the one where it says all the subjects and the things that we need to cover or something like that.. and number of questions each subject that will be asked.. it will be great..

somehow i am not able to find it on their site.. pl let me know asap..
 
@dontist check nbde part 2 candidate guide 2011 on ada.org ... u'll find it in tht pdf
 
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