ANYONE GOT ACCEPTED TO UCSF,USC OR UCSD? Please HELP!

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Anyone went into UCSF pharmacy school, USC pharmacy school or UCSD pharmacy school with some C's in the pre-req for pharmacy in your freshman year and still got in...? I really need some advice right now because I really REALLY want to make a huge difference when I enter my second year....



So pharmacy is something that I wanted to do for a really long time, (going back to the middle school year) but from my freshman grade is not looking good so far. Because of family issue, I have to work both weekdays and weekend and I commute by bus everyday from school to home. Really, I don't remember having fun or partying at school because helping my dad and studying is all I've been doing literally.

But I guess my study habbit is not very effective...

Basically for my freshman year, I received two C and one C+ and my GPA is around 3.02. (Not to mention those C's are from the pharmacy pre-req which brings me to tears again...) I really feel like a loser because I know that high school and college is different but I went to T.A's office hours, did tutoring for those classes I received C on and always studied ahead before the midterms/finals. I sometimes sleep for 4 hours just to study more but I feel like my effort never actually shows up...

I guess I have to find my weak point and change my study habbit fast before the second year but I'm really really scared... my dream pharmacy schools were UCSF, USC and UCSD but after seeing my grades... I don't even know anymore. I really like pharmacy but I feel like my grades are not reflecting it....

Should I just give up on those dream schools and just switch my career goal into something else.....?

Oh I don't know if this helps but currently I go to UCLA and I'm going to my second year. I hate myself so much T^T (Sorry if this is long)
 
For some perspective, my first quarter of college I got a 2.75 gpa and after my first year I was slightly above where you are now with a couple C's of my own. Yet, I'll be attending USC in August. You've only finished your first year so you've got a long ways to go, that's for sure, which is as much of a good thing as it is a bad thing!

You have plenty of time to improve; one bad (and a 3.0 isn't even that horrible for where you are) year isn't going to end your dream. The important thing to do now is to figure out why you didn't do well; are you not understanding the material? Are you just too overloaded with responsibilities and work? I'd recommend taking a little bit of that time for yourself to unwind - whether it be through volunteering (like me!) or some other hobby/organization. You can spend all the time you want studying for a subject but if it's not sticking in your brain then you're just wasting time. Remember, it's not the quantity of studying, but the quality 🙂 and oftentimes, a good mix of both!

It's really easy to get down on yourself after not performing as well you want, or need, to achieve that end goal. But that should only motivate you to work harder for your goal. It sounds like your family issues have you pretty occupied, but if you know that isn't going to change in the future then you have to learn how to adapt to that situation and thrive. No, it doesn't get any easier as you take harder and harder classes, but now is not the time to give up. Haven't you read the posts about new graduates who decided they want to do pharmacy but realize their 2.5 gpa's won't cut it? 😛 If they aren't giving up, then you REALLY shouldn't give up! A lot can change in three years...but you will have to work for it. Do you believe that you can?

Chin up and pedal to the metal! (Or, add oil, if you're chinese 😉)
 
For some perspective, my first quarter of college I got a 2.75 gpa and after my first year I was slightly above where you are now with a couple C's of my own. Yet, I'll be attending USC in August. You've only finished your first year so you've got a long ways to go, that's for sure, which is as much of a good thing as it is a bad thing!

You have plenty of time to improve; one bad (and a 3.0 isn't even that horrible for where you are) year isn't going to end your dream. The important thing to do now is to figure out why you didn't do well; are you not understanding the material? Are you just too overloaded with responsibilities and work? I'd recommend taking a little bit of that time for yourself to unwind - whether it be through volunteering (like me!) or some other hobby/organization. You can spend all the time you want studying for a subject but if it's not sticking in your brain then you're just wasting time. Remember, it's not the quantity of studying, but the quality 🙂 and oftentimes, a good mix of both!

It's really easy to get down on yourself after not performing as well you want, or need, to achieve that end goal. But that should only motivate you to work harder for your goal. It sounds like your family issues have you pretty occupied, but if you know that isn't going to change in the future then you have to learn how to adapt to that situation and thrive. No, it doesn't get any easier as you take harder and harder classes, but now is not the time to give up. Haven't you read the posts about new graduates who decided they want to do pharmacy but realize their 2.5 gpa's won't cut it? 😛 If they aren't giving up, then you REALLY shouldn't give up! A lot can change in three years...but you will have to work for it. Do you believe that you can?

Chin up and pedal to the metal! (Or, add oil, if you're chinese 😉)




Wow you have no idea how much I loved reading your encouraging words. I really read it over and over again and it really motivated me a lot. And I strongly agreed with you when you said, "I'm studying the mateiral but if it's not sticking in to my head then it is wasting my time" because I guess that was one of my weak point. I feel like I am doing more of quantitive studying than the qualitive ones. I'm trying to find out how much I can improve before my second year starts because I should stop getting C's now since I got so much in the beginning!

I kind of delveoped fear of "I'm never going to get A's in college" because I think the highest grade I ever received was like B+...T__T (in like math and science classes and not GE) BUt thank you so much for replying! Wow go usc! That's the pharmacy school I want to go to ask well! My top two from the CA pharmacy school are USC and UCSF (mostly usc though haha!)

Is if okay if I stay touch in with you if I want to ask any general questions..? I tend to commute back and forth from UCLA so to be honest I don't get a lot of social time with friends and asking quetions about how we want to plan our future and etc.... well but this is if you want to though LOL

I'll be waiting for your reply >_< and again thank you so much and congraz on getting into USC!
 
Grades aren't everything; I got a 2.7 overall my first two semesters of freshman year. Your entire application is what matters, not the numbers on a transcript. That being said, don't think you can be lazy and get into pharm school without effort. Think of it this way- the lower your GPA is, the more work you'll have to do in other areas to compensate. Good luck.
 
Grades aren't everything; I got a 2.7 overall my first two semesters of freshman year. Your entire application is what matters, not the numbers on a transcript. That being said, don't think you can be lazy and get into pharm school without effort. Think of it this way- the lower your GPA is, the more work you'll have to do in other areas to compensate. Good luck.


Thank you very much! I think you're right. I was thinking too much about the grades and not really towards about the other work such as how well I'm involved in my campus, volunteering and other things that can try to at least make up for my work. Although I really have to show some major improvement...! I think when people told me I still have time, that's what really saved me from freaking out too much over the sumer. Thank you very much!
 
I wouldn't get too stressed about it. However, the most important thing you need to do was said earlier:

The important thing to do now is to figure out why you didn't do well

This is completely true. My story's not completely like yours, OP, but I can relate. I did very well freshman year, but as I got into some subjects that I wasn't familiar with (evolution, endocrinology to specific), I did very poorly. I had a huge string of quarters with with grades from C- to B- littered across my transcript. Luckily (or unluckily for me), I had other classes where I did pretty well. So while I was getting somewhat acceptable GPA's, so I didn't think I had a problem. It wasn't until junior year when I finally realized that I really needed to fix something.

Again, the most important thing is to figure out WHY you're not doing as well as you want/need to. For me, I realized that the classes I didn't do well in were those that I needed to memorize details. I did very well in problem solving classes (labs, classes with diagnosis problems) and classes that stressed getting the "big picture" (see lower division courses), but did very poorly in those with lots of straight up memorization of information. So the very next quarter (Spring of my junior year) I developed studying habits that were specifically catered towards me being able to memorize information. The study habits were made based on what I knew about myself. Soon I found that even though I spent less time studying, I did better on tests, and I actually retained more information months later compared to other classes. The quarter I did this, I started doing volunteer research at a molecular bio lab, where I was dedicating about 20 hours a week. I earned a 2.8 winter quarter, and turned it around to get a 3.9 the next quarter, with 4 more units and arguably harder classes. So it's definitely possible to dedicate less time to studying and get better results, so long as you're developing better study habits.

So what about these classes makes it hard for you to succeed? Once you find something that seems to be common themes, based on what you know about yourself, find a way to improve that works for you.
 
Don't fret, my friend!! I applied to all 3 (UCSF, USC, and UCSD) and I was accepted to all 3. Your freshman grades matter, but don't at the same time. Just make sure you have an increasing trend and you can even explain your situation in the supplemental applications 🙂

From personal experience, it's what your perspectives, experiences and ambitions that will help you though the application. Keep your chin up because you still have a shot at these schools 😀!
 
I wouldn't get too stressed about it. However, the most important thing you need to do was said earlier:



This is completely true. My story's not completely like yours, OP, but I can relate. I did very well freshman year, but as I got into some subjects that I wasn't familiar with (evolution, endocrinology to specific), I did very poorly. I had a huge string of quarters with with grades from C- to B- littered across my transcript. Luckily (or unluckily for me), I had other classes where I did pretty well. So while I was getting somewhat acceptable GPA's, so I didn't think I had a problem. It wasn't until junior year when I finally realized that I really needed to fix something.

Again, the most important thing is to figure out WHY you're not doing as well as you want/need to. For me, I realized that the classes I didn't do well in were those that I needed to memorize details. I did very well in problem solving classes (labs, classes with diagnosis problems) and classes that stressed getting the "big picture" (see lower division courses), but did very poorly in those with lots of straight up memorization of information. So the very next quarter (Spring of my junior year) I developed studying habits that were specifically catered towards me being able to memorize information. The study habits were made based on what I knew about myself. Soon I found that even though I spent less time studying, I did better on tests, and I actually retained more information months later compared to other classes. The quarter I did this, I started doing volunteer research at a molecular bio lab, where I was dedicating about 20 hours a week. I earned a 2.8 winter quarter, and turned it around to get a 3.9 the next quarter, with 4 more units and arguably harder classes. So it's definitely possible to dedicate less time to studying and get better results, so long as you're developing better study habits.

So what about these classes makes it hard for you to succeed? Once you find something that seems to be common themes, based on what you know about yourself, find a way to improve that works for you.


Wow... your reply inspired me really a lot.. I wrote something really long to you in p.m I hope I can receive a reply from you >.<
 
Wow I am really happy for you >.< I hope the same thing that happen to me one day... I really hope I can make it. But thank you so much for the encouraging words T___T I really needed those these days










Don't fret, my friend!! I applied to all 3 (UCSF, USC, and UCSD) and I was accepted to all 3. Your freshman grades matter, but don't at the same time. Just make sure you have an increasing trend and you can even explain your situation in the supplemental applications 🙂

From personal experience, it's what your perspectives, experiences and ambitions that will help you though the application. Keep your chin up because you still have a shot at these schools 😀!
 
Wow! I am really impressed!! What were your stats if you don't mind me asking. I just want to know where I stand as far as competitveness. I am applying this cycle and I am super nervous. I don't even know where to begin. It would be great if you or any other students can answer my questions

When should I finish my pharmcas application? I am in the process right now.

I have volunteered at a children's hospice home, an uncerpriviledged highschool, and a clinic for pregnant women. I have not done much volunteer work at pharmacies, will this hurt me? I've also worked at doctors' offices. Should I try to get some pharmacy work in now and hopefully, I can mention it during the interview if chosen for an interview?

I am stuck on my personal statement, I am a horrible writer! I don't know where to begin.

Please help! Thank you!! =D
 
It will be tough getting into those schools, which is something I don't think anyone has mentioned yet.

If a pharmacy career is really your aspiration, you should be willing to gladly accept an admissions offer at any school -- not just from those three that you mentioned. Failing to get into USC, UCSD, or UCSF will not prevent you from becoming a pharmacist...
 
Wow! I am really impressed!! What were your stats if you don't mind me asking. I just want to know where I stand as far as competitveness. I am applying this cycle and I am super nervous. I don't even know where to begin. It would be great if you or any other students can answer my questions

When should I finish my pharmcas application? I am in the process right now.

I have volunteered at a children's hospice home, an uncerpriviledged highschool, and a clinic for pregnant women. I have not done much volunteer work at pharmacies, will this hurt me? I've also worked at doctors' offices. Should I try to get some pharmacy work in now and hopefully, I can mention it during the interview if chosen for an interview?

I am stuck on my personal statement, I am a horrible writer! I don't know where to begin.

Please help! Thank you!! =D

I am a third year student at UCSF, I just dont like to advertise it. 😉

My thoughts are:

USC is rolling to the best I can remember, vs. SD and SF are not, so you want to apply early enough to be in tier 1 for USC but not so early that you compromise writing your essays over
submitting them early enough. Essays are everything !!!!!! People often think that your gpa trumps everything but how do you think admissions comittee reviews your application ? They definitely pay attention to your essays and your personal statements.

Make sure your PS is solid and not wishey washey. I am proofreading PSs right now and a lot of time when I read the statements I have the exact same comments - essays are beautifully and eloquently written but lack substance and are not supported by concrete examples.

Start writing your ps by narrowing down the reason why pharmacy, for example for me this reason to enter healthcare was a tragic death of my closest family member. Then talk about what ec and leadership activities you involved yourself in during your undergraduate training that demonstrate your comittment to the path you have chosen. Follow this up by explaining to the adcoms what you have done to prepare yourself academically for the
challenges of pharmacy schools, for example I pursued two science majors,
took masters level classes, etc, things like this.

Remember, you are selling yourself is what you are essentially doing as the best and brightest and when you are applying to these types of competitve schools, you are competing with dozens of other qualified applicants. After reading your statements, adcom member should have a clear idea why their should interview YOU because you done X,Y and Z and not interview Peter Jones or Tran Chen. If your statement talks about your personal qualities which I see a lot of happwning ( I am dedicated and hard working, I am giving and caring) but does not the claims, it is not going to cut it.

Hope this helps.
 
I am a third year student at UCSF, I just dont like to advertise it. 😉

My thoughts are:

USC is rolling to the best I can remember, vs. SD and SF are not, so you want to apply early enough to be in tier 1 for USC but not so early that you compromise writing your essays over
submitting them early enough. Essays are everything !!!!!! People often think that your gpa trumps everything but how do you think admissions comittee reviews your application ? They definitely pay attention to your essays and your personal statements.

Make sure your PS is solid and not wishey washey. I am proofreading PSs right now and a lot of time when I read the statements I have the exact same comments - essays are beautifully and eloquently written but lack substance and are not supported by concrete examples.

Start writing your ps by narrowing down the reason why pharmacy, for example for me this reason to enter healthcare was a tragic death of my closest family member. Then talk about what ec and leadership activities you involved yourself in during your undergraduate training that demonstrate your comittment to the path you have chosen. Follow this up by explaining to the adcoms what you have done to prepare yourself academically for the
challenges of pharmacy schools, for example I pursued two science majors,
took masters level classes, etc, things like this.

Remember, you are selling yourself is what you are essentially doing as the best and brightest and when you are applying to these types of competitve schools, you are competing with dozens of other qualified applicants. After reading your statements, adcom member should have a clear idea why their should interview YOU because you done X,Y and Z and not interview Peter Jones or Tran Chen. If your statement talks about your personal qualities which I see a lot of happwning ( I am dedicated and hard working, I am giving and caring) but does not the claims, it is not going to cut it.

Hope this helps.


Wow I know that this was not really refering to me but to another person but at the same time I learned a lot from what you were saying. Thank you for sharing valuable information with us! I also try to think why i really want to go into pharmacy. I do not have any medical background and my parents are not very strict about what career I should go into. At the same time, it's not reall about the money because if it was, I would have just selected pre-med or something like that. I really can't remember but all I remember is that I've been saying I wanted to become pharmacist ever since I was in middle school... I think something sparked the light in me during middle school but now I just can't remember what it was... I'm searhcing for my memory haha but thank you so much again! Is it okay if I keep in touch with you for future helps or just to have small chat with you sometimes through messages? >.<
 
I am a third year student at UCSF, I just dont like to advertise it. 😉

My thoughts are:

USC is rolling to the best I can remember, vs. SD and SF are not, so you want to apply early enough to be in tier 1 for USC but not so early that you compromise writing your essays over
submitting them early enough. Essays are everything !!!!!! People often think that your gpa trumps everything but how do you think admissions comittee reviews your application ? They definitely pay attention to your essays and your personal statements.

Make sure your PS is solid and not wishey washey. I am proofreading PSs right now and a lot of time when I read the statements I have the exact same comments - essays are beautifully and eloquently written but lack substance and are not supported by concrete examples.

Start writing your ps by narrowing down the reason why pharmacy, for example for me this reason to enter healthcare was a tragic death of my closest family member. Then talk about what ec and leadership activities you involved yourself in during your undergraduate training that demonstrate your comittment to the path you have chosen. Follow this up by explaining to the adcoms what you have done to prepare yourself academically for the
challenges of pharmacy schools, for example I pursued two science majors,
took masters level classes, etc, things like this.

Remember, you are selling yourself is what you are essentially doing as the best and brightest and when you are applying to these types of competitve schools, you are competing with dozens of other qualified applicants. After reading your statements, adcom member should have a clear idea why their should interview YOU because you done X,Y and Z and not interview Peter Jones or Tran Chen. If your statement talks about your personal qualities which I see a lot of happwning ( I am dedicated and hard working, I am giving and caring) but does not the claims, it is not going to cut it.

Hope this helps.


Thanks! This definitely helped! When do you think is the best time to turn in your pharmcas and supplemental apps?
 
Thanks! This definitely helped! When do you think is the best time to turn in your pharmcas and supplemental apps?

UCSF isn't on rolling admissions, and their supp. isn't usually available until mid July. As soon as you can though would be a good idea, because if you delay "designating" UCSF's app, you're also delaying "designating" other schools that are rolling.
 
UCSF isn't on rolling admissions, and their supp. isn't usually available until mid July. As soon as you can though would be a good idea, because if you delay "designating" UCSF's app, you're also delaying "designating" other schools that are rolling.


The supplemental is the same every year for UCSF 😀. What I did was to finish my PharmCAS app and sent that in asap for UCSD, USC and UCSF. Then I did the supps with USC first since it's the only school I am applying for that is rolling.
 
The supplemental is the same every year for UCSF 😀. What I did was to finish my PharmCAS app and sent that in asap for UCSD, USC and UCSF. Then I did the supps with USC first since it's the only school I am applying for that is rolling.

When did you submit your pharmcas app? I am hoping to submit it by the end of July, is this too late? USC and UOP are the 2 schools I am applying to with rolling admissions.

I also read your previous posts and a 39S on the mcat is REALLY impressive! 👍
 
Yes. 39S is very good. UCSF is very lucky to have xtm. Actually, it probably should have been the other way around -- UCSF should've had to apply in order to enroll xtm instead of xtm applying to UCSF. Congrats UCSF ^^

When did you submit your pharmcas app? I am hoping to submit it by the end of July, is this too late? USC and UOP are the 2 schools I am applying to with rolling admissions.

I also read your previous posts and a 39S on the mcat is REALLY impressive! 👍
 
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When did you submit your pharmcas app? I am hoping to submit it by the end of July, is this too late? USC and UOP are the 2 schools I am applying to with rolling admissions.

I also read your previous posts and a 39S on the mcat is REALLY impressive! 👍

Yes. 39S is very good. UCSF is very lucky to have xtm. Actually, it probably should have been the other way around -- UCSF should've had to apply in order to enroll xtm instead of xtm applying to UCSF. Congrats UCSF ^^


😳 I just got really lucky ><; Blah, haha you two make me giggly :x

I submitted my pharmcas on june 29th and USC supp on July 6th! I heard back from USC in October for a November interview. I didn't apply to UOP so I don't have a personal timeline to share ><;; Maybe Passion can tell you more about it!

Good luck you two!! If you need anything just PM me 😀!
 
How to get into pharm school:

In order of importance:

1. get good grades - your competition has good grades. it's the first thing they look at. if your grades are too low, they won't even read the rest of your app. heard it from the horse's mouth. get that gpa up, it's not that hard.

2. get pharmacy experience - your competition has pharmacy experience. know the field and what you're getting into so that you can talk about it intelligently.

3. get leadership experience - whatever the hell that means. everyone's "leadership" experience sounds like exaggerated bull to me, but whatever it is, go get some.

4. write an awesome PS about why pharmacy. back it up with pharmacy and leadership experience anecdotes. use spell check. sell yourself. get help with this if you need it.

5. turn in applications as early as possible, even if the school doesn't have rolling admissions.

6. prepare for interview - practice interviews, get ready for random questions (what is an aldol reaction?) as well as typical questions (tell me about yourself? why pharmacy?) whatever you do, DO NOT CRY during your interview. make sure your communication skills are on point that day. if you're a guy, get a suit, conservative tie and shine your shoes. if you're a girl, don't dress like a tramp and keep the perfume to a minimum. if there's a student interviewer in the room, don't ignore that person.

7. pray if you have a religion. drink if you don't.
 
6. prepare for interview - practice interviews, get ready for random questions (what is an aldol reaction?) as well as typical questions (tell me about yourself? why pharmacy?) whatever you do, DO NOT CRY during your interview. make sure your communication skills are on point that day. if you're a guy, get a suit, conservative tie and shine your shoes. if you're a girl, don't dress like a tramp and keep the perfume to a minimum. if there's a student interviewer in the room, don't ignore that person.
:laugh:

I love your advice. One person at one of my interviews wore fishnets. That was a big shocker.
 
:laugh:

I love your advice. One person at one of my interviews wore fishnets. That was a big shocker.

maybe he was caught in the sea. did you say shocker? eel perhaps?
 
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How to get into pharm school:

6. prepare for interview - practice interviews, get ready for random questions (what is an aldol reaction?) as well as typical questions (tell me about yourself? why pharmacy?) whatever you do, DO NOT CRY during your interview. make sure your communication skills are on point that day. if you're a guy, get a suit, conservative tie and shine your shoes. if you're a girl, don't dress like a tramp and keep the perfume to a minimum. if there's a student interviewer in the room, don't ignore that person.

Will they usually ask chemistry type questions? I haven't heard of that from anybody I know in pharmacy school right now. I might have to brush up on that then =/
 
Will they usually ask chemistry type questions? I haven't heard of that from anybody I know in pharmacy school right now. I might have to brush up on that then =/

I think thats neither his actual advice nor serious advice, it was a comedic spoof written by someone long ago on the forum, maybe banana face.

As far as chem questions, depends in who you get, a friend was mine was asked ochem qs but he was interviewed by pharm chem prof. Another one was asked gen chem qs. For these type of things, its best to rely in sdn database pertaining to the particular school you are interviewing at.
 
I think thats neither his actual advice nor serious advice, it was a comedic spoof written by someone long ago on the forum, maybe banana face.

As far as chem questions, depends in who you get, a friend was mine was asked ochem qs but he was interviewed by pharm chem prof. Another one was asked gen chem qs. For these type of things, its best to rely in sdn database pertaining to the particular school you are interviewing at.

there's a prof at usc that likes to ask questions like that.
he tries to gauge your reaction and how you handle it if you don't know.


not typical, but it depends on who you get.
 
UCSF isn't on rolling admissions, and their supp. isn't usually available until mid July. As soon as you can though would be a good idea, because if you delay "designating" UCSF's app, you're also delaying "designating" other schools that are rolling.


I am working on my UOP app and have a couple of questions. I don't have a LOR from a pharmacist yet, so I will have to delay my app until tier 2, will this REALLY hurt my chances? I also do not have any pharmacy experience, but I've volunteered at a children hospice home and worked doctor's offices. Do they weigh heavily on pharmacy experiences? Do you have any advices for UOP apps?
 
I am working on my UOP app and have a couple of questions. I don't have a LOR from a pharmacist yet, so I will have to delay my app until tier 2, will this REALLY hurt my chances? I also do not have any pharmacy experience, but I've volunteered at a children hospice home and worked doctor's offices. Do they weigh heavily on pharmacy experiences? Do you have any advices for UOP apps?

Hey there. You would've gotten a faster reply from me if you'd PM'd me! I didn't even check this thread until now and it was by happenstance 😉

Alright, so waiting until tier 2 will not severely hamper your chances at getting in. If you have an otherwise strong application (primarily a good GPA) then you won't have a whole lot to worry about. Naturally tier 1 is ideal but tier 2 won't kill you. I think Delano was a tier 2 app and he obviously did fine 🙂

The pharmacy experience is very important to UoP. When I attended the supplemental workshop back in "the day", pharmacy experience came up more than once and was spoken about at length (hence the requirement of a pharmacist's LoR). If you don't have it, you're at a disadvantage, since everyone who applies has necessarily worked / volunteered in a pharmacy (Since they have a pharmacist's rec) and many people I'm in class with have had >100 hrs in a pharmacy, be it work or volunteer.

For the supplemental, you'll want to hone in on the supplemental question and make your answer not take the tone of your personal statement. That's a mistake I have heard a lot and it's not a good idea. Try to dig deep and find a unique experience that you can discuss on that question. Make sure that if you get an interview invite you've done your due diligence and you have a good answer to: Why UoP?
 
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