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Anyone knows about Yale and Case Western?

Discussion in 'Physician Scientists' started by exigente chica, Jun 16, 2002.

  1. exigente chica

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    I am really interested in some of the programs that the Yale and Case MSTP has to offer! Anyone currently attending these schools or know any inside info about them?

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  3. Skinship

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    What would you like to know? I'm not in Case's MSTP program, but another federally funded MD-PhD program at Case that is focused in health services research/epidemiology rather than basic sciences. If you are interested in this program, or have more general questions about Case Western's medical school, and I'd be happy to try to answer.

    As for basic sciences, my MSTP buddies seemed like they were having a good time with the program. I personally love the med school here (in my "Ph.D. years" now).

    Useful CWRU MD/PhD Links:

    1) CWRU's MSTP Webpage with lots of info: <a href="http://mstp.cwru.edu/nonflash_root.asp" target="_blank">http://mstp.cwru.edu/nonflash_root.asp</a>

    2) "Ask a Student" off above webpage to talk to MSTP students at Case: <a href="http://mstp.cwru.edu/Admissions/AskaStudent/help.asp" target="_blank">http://mstp.cwru.edu/Admissions/AskaStudent/help.asp</a>

    3) Press Release for dual degree program in health services research if you'd like to get a Ph.D. in public health / clinical research related field("health services research") <a href="http://www.cwru.edu/pubs/cnews/1999/1-14/md-phd.htm" target="_blank">http://www.cwru.edu/pubs/cnews/1999/1-14/md-phd.htm</a>

    Good luck!
     
  4. exigente chica

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    Thank you very much for the information! I allready looked at the wesite, but I wanted a more personal inside look.
    I have heard alot of things about the race relations in Ohio..could you touch on this subject?? How is the med school? I know that the system is pass/fail does this apply to MSTP students as well?
    Why did you decide on Case? What were your stats? How many students are in your class?

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  5. Skinship

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    Hi,

    I'm not in MSTP, but in the health services research PhD program I described above, so I can't answer the MSTP class size question (I think you can email an MSTP student thru the middle link in my previous post). Some of the things I enjoyed and attracted me to Case Western med school include being at a top and NIH funded research-strong program with a progressive organ based curriculum with problem based small group learning, biopsychosocial (humanitarian, "big picture") patient care philosophy, a noncompetative (ie not cutthroat) philosophy, having clinical exposure early during first two years of med school (you are matched with a pregnant patient and later help with pediatric care after she delivers), and generally nice and approachable faculty. I think there's also more free time than average (classes were generally 8-12 for my class). I felt that I got a strong education here for boards and clinical rotations.

    I had a very good experience with the students from my class year - talented, energetic group, social and not too clickish. I'm not aware of any race relation problems here (minorities & nonminorities hang out & one couple dated), but I'm not from Cleveland originally so I can't speak much to the broader city (Cleveland is not neccessarily typical of Ohio -- I came here expecting country music to predominate or something, but was pleasantly surprised to find it pretty similar to other northern/eastern cities I've been to).

    Took get a well-rounded perspective, I would ask around and get second & third opinions.

    My own stat's (again, this isn't MSTP but the other program, and may not be representative): 32 MCAT, 3.92 GPA from a top 30 school (hon thesis, phi beta kappa), strong recommendations, well-rounded premed, leadership, and research experiences. Don't worry if you don't have all the strengths - no transcript is flawless, and I think most programs look at the overall "potential" of an applicant in that area.

    I hope that helps - good luck!
     
  6. Spudster

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    I thought that Yale's MSTP was outstanding, but that all depends on what you want to do for your research, obviously. The vibes of the Med School were really inviting when I was there. I spend several days in New Haven, went to parties, etc. with my host, so I feel that I got a good slice of life, as well as developing confidence in what I was being told. The programs at Yale can run a little long, especially in MB&B, but the experience you'd get would be unparalleled. The Yale System is great for MSTP since it really takes pressure off, allowing time in the lab early on in your sojourn. If you have any specific questions, let me know. It was my second choice school, so I did quite a bit of research into it.
     
  7. exigente chica

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    Thanks for the insight Skinship, nice stats..! glad that you like it at case.
    For Spudster, I was wondering about the Biomedical Engineering program at Yale, there is a Ph.d who does some really interesting work on artifical organs there. I heard nice things about New Haven, nie party town with lots of diversity. Can you tell me a little bit more about the facilites adn the general feeling you got when u visited? How stressful was the interview? Did you get accepted?
    Thanks for the input, it really helps!
     
  8. Spudster

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by exigente chica:
    <strong>I was wondering about the Biomedical Engineering program at Yale, there is a Ph.d who does some really interesting work on artifical organs there. I heard nice things about New Haven, nie party town with lots of diversity. Can you tell me a little bit more about the facilites adn the general feeling you got when u visited? How stressful was the interview? Did you get accepted? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I can't really speak too much to the BME program specifically since that wasn't my area of interest. What I can say is that I absolutely loved Yale, New Haven, the interviews, everything. I'm not so sure about New Haven being a party town, but then again that isn't too important to me. Perhaps it would be better to describe the events I attended as "get-togethers" rather than parties - you know the biscotti and tea get around and talk type. If you are interested in something a little bit more exciting, I am pretty sure you'll find plentry of that too, if not in the Grad student ghetto, in NYC.

    Right now Yale is pouring a lot of money into their facilities, and are nearing completion on a major addition to the medical campus - new anatomy labs, classrooms, research areas - all very state-of-the-art and beautiful. They should be ready for this coming class to move in second semester. They took a lot of student input into consideration when desiging the new facilities, for instance they have flat panel touchscreen monitors next to the cadavers so you can access on-line atlases, etc. The library is beautiful, as are the facilities on Science Hill. I was very impressed with most everything I saw. I would not, however, live in Harkness Hall because there are some really neat areas around town where you can get a reasonably priced apartment. Since I have a wife and kid, we were even looking at buying a house, which several people do. Look into it if you go there as it can be a real financial boon if you are smart about it.

    As for the interviews, they were a breeze. We just talked shop, they doing a lot of recruiting and showing me around their labs and meeting people. They treat you nicely enough, though the interview sessions were somewhat larger than at other schools (~17 MSTP candidates on my day). They divide the interviewees into two groups for the MD interviews, one half in the morning and one in the afternoon. That is simply since straight MD folks only get a 1/2-day program. Anyhow, you have 3 one-on-one interviews with MD-types, I had one professor and one fifth-year student, and one 4-th year student. They were all really nice and concentrated mostly on what I was interested in, not asking questions about the state of healthcare, ethical questions, etc. With them I pretty much just talked shop, too, though at a more superficial level.

    As for the general feeling, I came into the interview with Yale somewhere low on my wish list and left feeling that I would absolutely go there if I didn't get into my first choice (Stanford). I did end up getting in. The MSTP office (Susan and Marybeth) are not very tight-lipped, so I found out from them several days before they actually finalized and mailed everything on the day stated in the propaganda.

    Like I've said, I loved it, but you'll have to get your own vibes to determine how it fits in with your plans and personality.
     
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    Exigente,

    I interviewed at Yale's MSTP program and I applied BME.

    I dont know any specifics about artificial organ development (i'm an imaging person) but Yale has a solid BME program from what I could tell.

    I guess there was only one small drawback that I observed about Yale BME/MSTP and that is the fact that I couldnt find a single MSTP/BME person in the program. I asked Jamieson (the director of the MSTP) how many MSTP people there chose to do BME and he said: "off the top of my head, none"

    Its probably not that big of a deal, its just that you might have to do a little trailblazing if you chose to do BME there. I'm not sure how much coordination there is between the MSTP and the BME departments. If I were you, I'd check with the BME dept at Yale and ask them about how they work with MSTP.
     

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