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Originally posted by lola
i'm saying 20% of urms who apply get in, and 10% of non-urms who apply get in. i'm just making it up... could be different numbers, but it seems like a lot more non-urms get shafted than urms. could be wrong. i'd like to see some numbers.
80%/400 may be non-urms but i bet quite a few of those are disadvantaged. that leaves very little room for people who don't fall into one of those groups considering that those are probably the majority of applicants.
RA mentioned @ 13-15% at ucsf are URM.
Souljah mentioned @ 25% of his ucsf class is disadvantaged.
I'd estimate that many of the URM students are disadvantaged, and therefore a MAJORITY of the class is non-URM.
Seems to me that some of your fears come from slightly exaggerated #'s. If as you said above, 80% are non-URMs, then there is more than "very little room" for other apps. THE DISADVANTAGE OF THE MED SCHOOL APP PROCESS IS A SMALL PRICE TO PAY COMPARED TO THE POLITICAL/SOCIAL ADVANTAGES ENJOYED BY WHITES IN THE US.
It scares me when people make judgements based on inaccurate #'s. It can lead to the "they're taking away our jobs" anti-immigrant sentiments. I found an old post that sums up well my opinion & would like to include it here:
CANES2006
Miami chica
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 775
"I am so tired of hearing people complain about affirmative action (by the way, I am not a URM who might "benefit" from affirmative action) and labeling schools that have an overabundance of minorities as racist.
How about the discrimination against minorities that goes on in MANY schools? I can tell you one thing, racial discrimination takes place alot more often than reverse discrimination does, yet many minorities don't whine half as much as you guys are doing.
Please try another perspective. I don't agree with many facets of affirmative action, but I agree even less with discrimination based solely on race or ethnicity. Yeah, affirmative action isn't always fair, but you guys are not the only victims."
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