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Still waiting for UCI and UCLA. Just wondering how many of you are still waiting too.
Originally posted by Nefertari
I've returned 2ndaries to 4 UC's. Still waiting on Irvine (they were the only UC waiting for Aug scores before sending the 2ndary). This makes me wonder @ the dynamics between the 5 UC's. (i.e. Maybe Irvine has not sent me a 2ndary b/c the other UC's have??) This happened w/ some other folks in previous years.
Originally posted by Random Access
The consensus from career services appeared to be that they don't have time to confer with each other. [/B]
Originally posted by Nefertari
I hope that's true, but maybe take w/ a grain of salt. Are you referrring to a health careers office @ one of the UC's?
Originally posted by Nefertari
COMPARE UC?S TO PRIVATES
Originally posted by Random Access
Hmmm...if I had to compare a UC to my privates...I think Berkeley compares well.
Originally posted by Nefertari
Because . . . ?? Be careful, that can be construed in various ways!
Originally posted by Nefertari
I've returned 2ndaries to 4 UC's. Still waiting on Irvine (they were the only UC waiting for Aug scores before sending the 2ndary).
Originally posted by lola
are you a urm? just curious... i thought my app was really strong before the mcat (not trad, high GPA, master's degree, 10 years of premed work, EC's, etc) but have only received a secondary from ucsf.
Originally posted by lola
are you a urm? just curious... i thought my app was really strong before the mcat (not trad, high GPA, master's degree, 10 years of premed work, EC's, etc) but have only received a secondary from ucsf.
Originally posted by whyadoctor?
sounds like the UC schools are superbly screwy. how could someone get secondaries from ucsf, ucla, and ucsd but not from davis or uci. totally weird. i got secondaries from uci and davis pretty early on. was recently rejected from ucsf without a secondary and haven't heard anything from ucsd, or ucla. i have to wonder how freakin poor you really have to be to get into a UC school.
GPA 3.6
MCAT 30 (10, 9, 11)
Cali resident
Originally posted by whyadoctor?
students should be evaluated on their achievements and their potential alone. past achievement is the best way that schools can determine future success. (i guess this should be in the affirmative action thread)
Originally posted by whyadoctor?
one's race/ethnicity or socioeconomic background should not even be a factored into determining acceptances. there shouldn't be a disadvantaged status, what the does that mean anyway? it seems to me that the UC schools unfairly favor those they deem to be disadvantaged. it's not right. students should be evaluated on their achievements and their potential alone. past achievement is the best way that schools can determine future success. giving preference to those students who come from something referred to as "disadvantaged" or under represented minority is insulting. (i guess this should be in the affirmative action thread)
Originally posted by whyadoctor?
sounds like the UC schools are superbly screwy. how could someone get secondaries from ucsf, ucla, and ucsd but not from davis or uci. totally weird. i got secondaries from uci and davis pretty early on. was recently rejected from ucsf without a secondary and haven't heard anything from ucsd, or ucla. i have to wonder how freakin poor you really have to be to get into a UC school.
GPA 3.6
MCAT 30 (10, 9, 11)
Cali resident
Originally posted by lola
anyway, i think the whole a.a./disadvantaged thing is a little out of hand for uc's and makes it very difficult for anyone who is not to get a spot at a uc med school since the spaces are so limited.
Originally posted by Random Access
What do you mean by "out of hand"? Is there evidence that it's any different for UC schools than other schools? Both you and whyadoctor? seem to think so...
Originally posted by lll505
Does anyone know if secondary invites are received via email, snail mail, or only by checking online status sites???
Originally posted by lola
hey... don't put me in the same category as whyadoctor?!
the reason i think it's out of hand stems from the fact that there are not enough state med schools in california. because of this, the vast majority of non-disadvantaged non-URM californians end up having to go to a private school. this is just not right when many of them are excellent students.
anyway, i'm not arguing against aa, but i think it's out of hand b/c their policies might allow 20% of urms/disadvantaged to get in ( i don't really know) while 90% of non-urms get shafted.
i haven't really thought about my argument that much, so feel free to rip it apart, but i do think it is WRONG that there are only like maybe 300 spots for non-URM/disadvantaged people at UC's. in order to compete for those spots, they have to be REALLY competive. sure, it's the same at all schools, but you are not limited to the number you can apply to.
Originally posted by lola
i don't really have an a immediate fix, but the real solution is to build more california med schools. i don't understand why only 1 in 8 californians applying to med school gets into a UC while 1 in 2 in texas get in (or whatever the exact numbers are). that seems a little unjust unless the californians were all dumber or something, but that is not the case.
i certainly do not prefer that the uc system go entirely by merit. i think the whole person should be taken into account. i just don't think there are enough spots for everyone, particularly non-urms. it's pretty pathetic that californians don't get into uc's but get into other top 10 schools. there is something wrong here...
Originally posted by lola
80%/400 may be non-urms but i bet quite a few of those are disadvantaged. that leaves very little room for people who don't fall into one of those groups considering that those are probably the majority of applicants.
Originally posted by Random Access
I don't necessarily see a disadvantage to having higher standards.
Originally posted by Random Access
What's your basis for saying that "quite a few," implying "a lot," are disadvantaged? (sorry for misreading your 20% comment)
Originally posted by lola
the real disadvantage is for californians who are applying. there are not nearly enough spots for them at their state schools while there are in many states. as a result, they are turned away and must pay a lot of money to go to private schools even though they're california tax payers. those californians who are sort of borderline and don't get into finch, drexel, nymc, etc... end up going to the caribbean or not at all. if they lived in a different state, they'd have no problem getting into their state school. maybe i'm just bitter b/c i'm a californian , but it just does not seem fair.
of course, having higher standards is great for those people who get in. they probably get a great education!