Anyone taken Advanced OChem?

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Have any of you all taken advanced o-chem classes? For me, organic chemistry has been the only science class where I've actually felt fluent in the subject matter without having to study tons! I really like the subject, but I'd also like to take some other chem/bio classes. Has anyone loved their advanced o-chem class? I'd love to hear about it, thanks!
 
The advanced o chem class I took was just physical organic chemistry(the text book was even named something similar), but I heard advanced o chem II at my school is more reactions and mechanisms. Since I am not a huge fan of physical chemistry, I didn't enjoy it too much.
 
I haven't actually taken an advanced ochem class, but I'm planning to take an advanced mechanism class. This class deals with coming up with reasonable mechanisms from the given conditions and that's all it is. The actual reactions might not happen in real life, but you learn fundamental ways for coming up with a mechanism for complicated situations. I don't know if your school offers this kind of class, but you should definitely look into it if you liked the mechanism part of ochem.
 
I'm in the same boat as you as far as organic coming naturally, but unfortunately I won't be able to take intermediate organic as pchem is a prereq, and I'm not taking pchem until senior year. At any rate, the way I had the class described to me was that it was essentially your organic 1 concepts - just much, much more in depth.
 
Have any of you all taken advanced o-chem classes? For me, organic chemistry has been the only science class where I've actually felt fluent in the subject matter without having to study tons! I really like the subject, but I'd also like to take some other chem/bio classes. Has anyone loved their advanced o-chem class? I'd love to hear about it, thanks!

Good question, I say take BioChem, it's more useful and if you understand OChem then enzyme mechanisms are a breeze.
 
That's what I'm doing. Following it with medicinal chemistry, assuming the professor decides he has the time to teach it :xf:
 
You sound kinda like me! During my senior year, I wanted to have some "fun" and take a graduate o-chem course "Physical Organic Chemistry" at Stanford, taught by my favorite instructor Prof. Justin Du Bois, who also taught one of my undergraduate o-chem courses (it was his class that really put a learning curve on my knowledge and understanding of organic chemistry/mechanisms, and the rest of o-chem after that class indeed felt like a breeze). The book we used primary for the graduate adv. o-chem course was _Modern Physical Organic Chemistry_ by Anslyn & Dougherty. It was something I found interesting b/c we tackled organic chemistry mostly from a molecular orbital theory perspective (and having done computational chemistry 4 yrs prior, this was kind of like coming full circle). It wasn't an easy course, as the grad students there had much more knowledge than the ~4 undergrads incl. me taking the course. The exams were very very difficult, but it was a pretty neat experience anyway. Despite the challenges, it was nice to tackle a subject I felt "fluent" in from the undergrad courses, and even though I don't remember that much of the details from the grad class, the concepts and thought-process are still with me. I felt like it was a good opportunity to do something mostly as an exercise in trying to hone the thinking-process, as much as I felt doing retrosynthetic analysis did for me beyond o-chem.

My degree was in Biological Sciences, btw. 🙂

One of our biochemistry courses on metabolism was also heavily o-chem oriented which I really enjoyed, too (enzyme reaction mechanisms, kind of a twist b/c you have to have some intuition about reactivity before you can "break" rules due to the fact you've got the enzyme aiding you! ^^ )

I'm always happy to hear from fans of o-chem b/c for me, it was much more than reactions and mechanisms, and I wish more undergrads in science who take it could appreciate the subject more (it was never a "memorization class" for me!)

I hope you will choose to take something like that when you have the time! Once in a lifetime for me (b/c seriously...I doubt I'll ever go that deep into that kind of subject again as I go through learning about medicine).

Cheers!

Have any of you all taken advanced o-chem classes? For me, organic chemistry has been the only science class where I've actually felt fluent in the subject matter without having to study tons! I really like the subject, but I'd also like to take some other chem/bio classes. Has anyone loved their advanced o-chem class? I'd love to hear about it, thanks!
 
I took advance organic chemistry and Bio-organic chemistry. Both were really fun classes. If you liked orgo II, u ll love adv orgo (asuming ur class will teach the same as mine). It wasnt that challenging, i took it a semester after taking the MCAT, so the orgo was kind of fresh in my head. Bio-organic was mainly mechanisms in biological systems, again, is the orgo "stuff" that our bodies perform. I liked both classes.
 
I'm taking adv ochem. I am doing well on this class so far but I hate it too...the subject matters are just too boring.
 
Thanks for all the responses! Nice to know there are some people who actually love organic too. I'll probably end up taking Biochem and Bioorganic Chemistry next year and save the advanced organic class for my senior year since it's an intro course for graduate students. I heard it was absolute murder for undergrads, so I'll let it demolish me when grades don't matter as much. 🙂

beyond 9001, do you mind me asking what you'll be up to in the next year or so? Did you already graduate or are you still in your senior year? Thanks for the encouragement to study organic chem more deeply as an undergrad. I think I would definitely regret not pursuing it further before med school.
 
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