apartment at vet clinic in exchange for work?

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Hey guys, I've seen a couple ads recently for vet clinics looking for someone to live in an on-site apartment and do evening/weekend treatments in exchange. I was just wondering how many of you have seen these types of arrangements, and what the schedule of the techs in them usually looks like (how many nights/week on call, how many days scheduled to do evening treatments, etc). It sounds like it could be a great opportunity. Obviously it will vary from clinic to clinic, but I'm just trying to get a feel for "normal" so I know a good or bad deal when I hear it. Thanks!

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I have not heard of something like this for techs, but I have seen it for interns (first year out of vet school)--housing + stipend for 1 year internship. If you will not be getting a stipend, I think you need to be sure that you have a cap for the amount of hours you will work. I think you need to protect yourself! I know the equine clinic where I worked, the cases would come in waves where one week there would be checks every 2 hours throughout the night (ie severe colics/post-op) and the next week there would be a few 10pm checks. Would you be "on call" starting at 5pm when the clinic closes and ending at 8am when it opens? I think you are right, this would be a great opportunity, but be sure you protect yourself...school has to come first, and it's hard to keep up if you have strange sleep patterns all week long.
 
That's what I was thinking, too. If we're talking maybe one or two nights a week and every other weekend, I think I could live with that. But I think I would have to be diligent about keeping up with my studies, since there's no way to predict what night the emergencies are going to be non-stop. I think if I go this route I will try to start over the summer so I can figure out how much of a time commitment it will realistically be.
 
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maybe you can contact the clinics and ask them if they'll give you the contact info for the student who worked/lived there last year. They would probably be your best information source. If you work there for the summer and then it doesn't work out and you only have a few weeks to find housing again, it could be stressful. Good luck! It does sound like a pretty sweet deal..
 
Ooh, great idea! I'm not totally clear on whether this is the first time they've done this, as they said they are still working out the details of what would be expected, but I will definitely ask.

maybe you can contact the clinics and ask them if they'll give you the contact info for the student who worked/lived there last year. They would probably be your best information source. If you work there for the summer and then it doesn't work out and you only have a few weeks to find housing again, it could be stressful. Good luck! It does sound like a pretty sweet deal..
 
I had that system going for a few years at the vet clinic I worked at. Loved it - it was the Dr's/owners old apartment. Was a great setup, although it gets hard NOT coming in when they need someone to fill in for a day "Erghh, im busy?" doesn't really work when you sitting 50' away watching TV.
 
IMO, it has the potential to be great experience, but it also has the potential for abuse. Since you are not being paid hourly and you're right there, you need to set clear boundaries up front to make sure that you get some dedicated free time. In their minds, there is the potential for thinking, "Oh, she's right there, she won't mind doing x, y, and z," which is fine unless/until x, y, and z becomes staying up all night with a sick animal when you had hoped to study for a test, go out to dinner with friends, or just have some quiet time to decompress.
 
Agreed. I just have no idea how much is reasonable to do before drawing the line. If I consider average vet tech pay vs average cost of rent, it seems like they could expect quite a few hours. Unless, of course, it is calculated assuming a higher hourly rate because the hours are late night/weekend, and it'd be hard to convince someone who lived off-premises to come in for it.

No Imagination, how much were you obligated to do in return for the apartment?
 
No Imagination, how much were you obligated to do in return for the apartment?

Doesn't really apply for me, as I was working there before the apartment became available. The Dr. moved out and it sat empty (was physically attached to clinic).

One night we had a particularly busy day prior and their were several critical cases that should have been referred out, but didn't work out that way. Dr. asked me to stay over night, ordered me pizza, and told me to just watch TV, getting up every hour or so.

After that he said "stay over whenever you want, its yours"...

moved in 2 months later. Work schedule didn't change any, late nights I would wander the hospital, play with with adopted dogs a bit. Was a great experience.
 
dgm, I know a current 3rd year who did this... I emailed her on FB, will let you know if she has any good input...
 
Don't forget to talk to someone about the tax implications for the housing.
 
Don't forget to talk to someone about the tax implications for the housing.

Thanks for the heads-up, Sumstorm, that never would've even crossed my mind. Who would I talk to about such a thing? And what sort of possible tax implications are there? (If anything, wouldn't it be treated like income?)
 
The fair market rental value of the apartment would be considered income..... if the employer declares it (since they are advertising they might.) If the employer isn't claiming it as a cost, might not have to deal with it (but they should...but some don't.) It also depends on whether or not the job requires you to live there...lots of technicalities in this one.... I have an accountant who would tell me if I was dealing with it...but just don't want you to find out at the end of the year that there is an additional tax burden.

This is one of those gray areas....if the job can only be done by living there, it isn't taxable income, but if the housing is part of the compensation.... it gets kind of sticky.
 
There's an ortho specialist here in town who has a vet student doing this for her. I believe they worked out a fair price for rent and then a fair price for his services based on hours he was needed, number of checks per night, number of patients etc. Then they basically compared rent vs. services for each month. If they needed him a lot, they would pay him for any services that exceeded the cost of rent. If night cases were low enough that they didn't meet the rent price, he payed the difference. Seemed to work pretty well for them.
 
Hey guys, I've seen a couple ads recently for vet clinics looking for someone to live in an on-site apartment and do evening/weekend treatments in exchange. I was just wondering how many of you have seen these types of arrangements, and what the schedule of the techs in them usually looks like (how many nights/week on call, how many days scheduled to do evening treatments, etc). It sounds like it could be a great opportunity. Obviously it will vary from clinic to clinic, but I'm just trying to get a feel for "normal" so I know a good or bad deal when I hear it. Thanks!

i did this for two years in undergrad. despite some personal issues with the dr and management, the experience itself was amazing! i can tell you how this particular situation worked out.

very small clinic: it was a barely renovated ranch-style home. downstairs was the one doctor, two exam rooms, kennel. upstairs was a 3 BR apartment.

three "resident externs." two of us were college students and part time techs in the clinic; the third was a 25 year old male who had a full time job at the radio station. the three of us would come up with a monthly schedule so that one of us was at the apartment at all off-hours. it was completely flexible, as we made it, so long as we gave the finished schedule to the doctor before the first of the month. our shift consisted of:

office checks 15 minutes prior to closing (6 or 8pm weeknights, 1pm Saturday): go downstairs, check with the doctor and tech to make sure you understood 8 pm treatments, check with the kennel staff to make sure all the pets were comfortable. sometimes they knew the animals better than the doctor/tech and had some tips for getting a pill down a certain cat's throat ;)

8 pm treatments. usually a few pills, maybe an injection here or there. one day a week was surgery day, so if you were on schedule that night, you had to do TPRs and meds at 8pm, 12am, and 4am. with the three of us, it was one night every third week.

8 am treatments if on schedule for the weekend (saturday afternoon to monday morning)

"on call" duties: the local police department had a contract of sorts with the clinic. if they had a HBC, or a 'rescue' that needed medical attention, they brought it to us. we made it comfortable in a cage, filed some paperwork with the officer, called the vet, and did whatever we were told. the vet would never come in, so did the work up the next morning. these "calls" were quite rare, and not a usual part of the job.

personally, i never had a problem with being asked to work when i wasn't scheduled. i worked most all of my free time anyway ;). but if they were short staffed, and i needed some extra cash, i'd offer to help out for a few hours here and there. i never did that unless i had nothing else to do. i.e., i never compromised school work or horse time to "help out downstairs."

separately, i know of another clinic who is offering housing for a vet student, and their set up is slightly different. i think they'd like you to be there at office closing, and check that the kenneled animals have water and are comfortable at some point later in the evening, but "on call" and treatment duties are not expected of you. another but: only one person lives there, so you are expected to be there every night, if not all night because of the lack of "on call" duties. both scenarios i mentioned were/are entirely cost-free.

my undergrad experience was more than worth it. as for vet school, schedules are much more crowded, and school is not walking distance from any vet hospital with free housing. i've heard that many vet students have done it however, and loved it.
 
Thanks, everyone, for the input. I met with the doctor and am going to give it a shot. I'll start in June so I have time to get acclimated prior to starting school (can't imagine trying to adjust to a new clinic AND first year simultaneously)! I won't be as close to school as I would prefer, but it's hard to argue with free rent. It sounds like it won't be a huge time commitment every week, but only time will tell... Fingers crossed!
 
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