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[tiffin25]

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hey

have finally decided that i will be doing gas for my residency. i was wavering for a bit, but in retrospect i was wondering why i wavered at all. either way... just wondering what you guys think about not being able to do a rotation at a residency program you would like to match at. i would really like to match at a top nyc program, but most likely will not have time to do a rotation at any of them.

do any of you have any recs?

thanks for the help!!

 

[Skip Intro]

hey

have finally decided that i will be doing gas for my residency. i was wavering for a bit, but in retrospect i was wondering why i wavered at all. either way... just wondering what you guys think about not being able to do a rotation at a residency program you would like to match at. i would really like to match at a top nyc program, but most likely will not have time to do a rotation at any of them.

do any of you have any recs?

thanks for the help!!

I hate to tell you, but you're a little late. You should've started scheduling away rotations back in May. For instance, the schedule at Mt. Sinai is full through the end of December. So, this won't help if you're looking for a letter and/or auditions because they'll probably be wrapping-up the interview cycle for this year's match by the time you get in there.

Don't despair, though. I'd just start calling/emailing schools that have a residency program in your area. You may get lucky and be able to do a visiting rotation at one of the "less competitive" places (e.g., Maimonides, Brookdale, etc.). Here's a list of all the programs in NY:

http://www.ama-assn.org/vapp/freida/pgmrslt/1,1239,,00.html

Good luck,

-Skip

 

[tiffin25]

hey skip

thanks for your post... but, i think i may have worded my original post incorrectly. what i meant to say was that i was wavering for a bit, but i still have completed two anes rotations (one at home school and one at the cleveland clinic). i should receive an honors in both and have gotten solid LOR's out of both institutions. also, i am doing a month of research at the clinic's pain department. so, i think i have enough anes on my transcript, it's just that i don't have any rotations at nyc schools. will that hurt me when applying? would it be stupid of me to contact them to tell them i am interested in their program?

look forward to any replys...

thanks!!!

 

[Skip Intro]

hey skip

thanks for your post... but, i think i may have worded my original post incorrectly. what i meant to say was that i was wavering for a bit, but i still have completed two anes rotations (one at home school and one at the cleveland clinic). i should receive an honors in both and have gotten solid LOR's out of both institutions. also, i am doing a month of research at the clinic's pain department. so, i think i have enough anes on my transcript, it's just that i don't have any rotations at nyc schools. will that hurt me when applying? would it be stupid of me to contact them to tell them i am interested in their program?

look forward to any replys...

thanks!!!

AH! No, you're in good shape. Go for it. You may get lucky at Cornell or Columbia, too. I'd look somewhere in Manhattan as well. Generally better programs. I start my elective at Mt. Sinai soon. And I've heard nothing but good things, for what it's worth. I'll be sure to let you know when it's over.

-Skip

 

[powermd]

hey skip

thanks for your post... but, i think i may have worded my original post incorrectly. what i meant to say was that i was wavering for a bit, but i still have completed two anes rotations (one at home school and one at the cleveland clinic). i should receive an honors in both and have gotten solid LOR's out of both institutions. also, i am doing a month of research at the clinic's pain department. so, i think i have enough anes on my transcript, it's just that i don't have any rotations at nyc schools. will that hurt me when applying? would it be stupid of me to contact them to tell them i am interested in their program?

look forward to any replys...

thanks!!!

You may want to do a rotation at a program in NYC anyway, just to demonstrate the sincerity of your desire to come to NYC. I recall from my interviews that one thing program directors wanted to be sure of was my desire to live in NYC despite the high cost of living. Sinai was an awesome rotation, which I would highly recommend. Even if their regular clinical anesthesiology electives are fully booked, you may be able to get "Human Simulation in Anesthesiology", which is probably even better than spending all your time in the OR- you'll get to spend more time interacting with the PD too. You may be able to get a rotation at NYU. It wasn't a great place to spend a month, but you would be able to get a good letter from their chairman, and it's in NYC. You have a lot of freedom there as well, few people consistently monitor your attendance!

I don't think it would be stupid to contact programs to express your desire, particularly since you don't have any rotations in NYC yet. Just be tactful, and concise. With your background, I'm sure you would have a great shot at Columbia, provided you have good board scores.

 

[Dorian Gray]

AH! No, you're in good shape. Go for it. You may get lucky at Cornell or Columbia, too. I'd look somewhere in Manhattan as well. Generally better programs. I start my elective at Mt. Sinai soon. And I've heard nothing but good things, for what it's worth. I'll be sure to let you know when it's over.

-Skip

When will you be there? I'm actually going to do the Human Sim course with Dr. Levine that you refer to above later this fall. I've been trying to find some other info on him and the rotation... if you know anything I would greatly appreciate it... only thing I've heard so far is that he's a great teacher. Thanks.

 

[Skip Intro]

When will you be there? I'm actually going to do the Human Sim course with Dr. Levine that you refer to above on Sep. 25. I've been trying to find some other info on him and the rotation... if you know anything I would greatly appreciate it... only thing I've heard so far is that he's a great teacher. Thanks.

I PM'd you.

-Skip

 

[tiffin25]

i don't think i received it... can u resend it. thanks

 

[joshmir]

I feel that for all medical fields, NYC is always a little more competitive. But the characteristics of many people that want to do gas (many are ethnic, young, lifestyle/reimbursement oriented, prefer the interpersonal interactions they have outside of work to the interpersonal interactions they have with patients, are attracted to the ability to live in desired urban locations due to the great job market), makes NYC an even more sought after place to do gas.

I think your scores (you've posted 90% on step I, i think) may get you interviews from columbia, cornell, and sinai, but they like to see better than average grades, too...people say (rumor, conversation with one resident outside of interview day) that NYU is a place where people go that would have prefered to match into another program or specialty and are less happy. also, many were former surgeons. because most residents try to convince themselves (and ergo you) that they are happy even if they are not (as a psychological defense mechanism), places with that kind of vibe are really hard to get a handle in.
my interview day at NYU, you only had five minutes with one interviewer, so i imagine they are very numbers oriented. i know i'm not painting the rosiest picture, so i hope i'm wrong.


make sure you get a REAL GOOD handle on the st luke's call schedule before you consider it. they sort of yadda-yadda-yadda'd how much you have to work, which is understandeable because it's so complex.


also, if applying to cornell, search this forum for the letter the PD accidentally emailed to the applicant pool (not his intended recipients).

best of luck...if you want a place in the city, you'll get one, worst comes to worst, it just might be in a place where you'll have to work a lot harder (but then you'll be better trained).

 

[Skip Intro]

i don't think i received it... can u resend it. thanks

I actually PM'd Dorian Gray, but now I just PM'd you too. 😉

-Skip

 

[Acupuncturist]

Hey,
I'm also interested in applying to NYC programs, cuz I surely missed the knish (probably the wrong spelling) and oranges (5 for 1 dollar) nearby the canal street. 🙂

Out of curiosity, I was just checking the unfilled spots from scutwork website. I was surprised by the number of programs in NY went unfilled, especially the well-recognized programs such as NYU, Cornell, etc. Does this mean that these programs are 'easier' to get in?

Btw, does anyone know what are the mid/low tier programs in NY besides Maimonides and Brookdale? I've contact several PD regarding their programs, and they all tended to 'boost' up or 'exaggerate' the reputation of their programs, which made it difficult for me tell what are the 'safer' or 'back-up' programs.

 

[Worldtraveler]

I also found it hard to judge the competitiveness of NYC programs, but I was pleasantly surprised to receive more interviews than I expected. The better programs in NY that went unfilled were most likely due to overconfidence.
So, don't be shy and even apply to programs that sound intimidating.
Good luck.
Can't wait to get to NYC!

 

[NYCAnesthesia]

I am a resident at Cornell and I absolutely love it here. Rest assured that not-filling will never happen again. Both NYU and Cornell are excellent programs in highly desirable locations, and with more people opening their eyes to how great our speciality is, the competition is only going to increase.

 

[powermd]

When will you be there? I'm actually going to do the Human Sim course with Dr. Levine that you refer to above later this fall. I've been trying to find some other info on him and the rotation... if you know anything I would greatly appreciate it... only thing I've heard so far is that he's a great teacher. Thanks.

The human sim elective is awesome- I absolutely loved it. A few things to note about Adam Levine- he thinks Sinai is as good as MGH, Hopkins, UCSF, etc in pretty much every way. Don't indicate any misgivings about Sinai's less-than-national reputation. Just be pro-Sinai all the way, and you'll have your best shot. He told me his method of picking residents shifts from year to year, and he never really knows what the class will look like until he turns in his final ROL. Most people who match Sinai did rotations there, and also ranked Sinai #1. The year before I applied they only went through 19 ranks to fill all 15 slots. Just be yourself, but be interesting, and make sure he likes you.

 

[Dorian Gray]

The human sim elective is awesome- I absolutely loved it. A few things to note about Adam Levine- he thinks Sinai is as good as MGH, Hopkins, UCSF, etc in pretty much every way. Don't indicate any misgivings about Sinai's less-than-national reputation. Just be pro-Sinai all the way, and you'll have your best shot. He told me his method of picking residents shifts from year to year, and he never really knows what the class will look like until he turns in his final ROL. Most people who match Sinai did rotations there, and also ranked Sinai #1. The year before I applied they only went through 19 ranks to fill all 15 slots. Just be yourself, but be interesting, and make sure he likes you.

Thanks for the tips powermd. 19 for 15... Wow! One last question: is it pretty easy to "make sure he likes you"? Just curious b/c that kind of sounded like he might require a certain type of person for you to be "on his side" so to speak. I hope that he's pretty easygoing as I am as well. (And that's not to say that I am lazy or anything)................ sorry for all the questions, I think I am getting seriously neurotic about this match process unlike anything I've done before 🙄

Also thanks to Skip for the tips as well. Hope you like your time at Sinai... I PM'd you back BTW.

 

[powermd]

Thanks for the tips powermd. 19 for 15... Wow! One last question: is it pretty easy to "make sure he likes you"? Just curious b/c that kind of sounded like he might require a certain type of person for you to be "on his side" so to speak. I hope that he's pretty easygoing as I am as well. (And that's not to say that I am lazy or anything)................ sorry for all the questions, I think I am getting seriously neurotic about this match process unlike anything I've done before 🙄

Also thanks to Skip for the tips as well. Hope you like your time at Sinai... I PM'd you back BTW.

Adam's a great guy, it's easy to get along with him. He makes almost everyone feel like they're best friends with him (that's why Sinai residents are so pro-Sinai), it's hard to tell if he has misgivings about you. One fact I found interesting about Sinai last year was that only 2 people in their med school class went into anesthesiology, versus about 15 the year before that. If you're doing the sim elective, spend a lot of time learning as much as you can about the sim. If you write a few programs that simulate interesting OR phenomena, that should impress him. That may be hard to do, since he has already nailed all the common and rare-but-known-because-feared scenarios.

 

[Fiend]

Just read this week's cover story in Time about the terror alert for NYC and DC. Won't be applying there for sure. You guys can have it but I don't want my family and me to be sitting ducks on a bullseye!