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Some of the data is just pure luck. Had Clinton stayed on 8 months later. He’s been screwed

Had bush 43 left 5 months earlier. He’s be considered a great president in terms of the economy. The economy was roaring 2003-2007 with bush 43

The economy tanked 2000-2001 with Clinton leaving bush coming on with markets peaking jan1 and tanking throughout the next 20 months

Just a matter of sheer months can affect data.
Maybe it is..maybe it isnt. Not a small sample size though. **** happens. Democratic presidents have frequently had to dig the economy out of holes dug under Republicans

But it falls in line with economic expectations. Massive tax cuts for rich never generate as much economic benefit as advertised. So republican policies arent expected to generate enough to balance out their deficits.

The Harris economic plan was also expected to generate smaller budget deficits than Trumps plan
 
Maybe it is..maybe it isnt. Not a small sample size though. **** happens. Democratic presidents have frequently had to dig the economy out of holes dug under Republicans

But it falls in line with economic expectations. Massive tax cuts for rich never generate as much economic benefit as advertised. So republican policies arent expected to generate enough to balance out their deficits.

The Harris economic plan was also expected to generate smaller budget deficits than Trumps plan
Economic policies take 4-5 years to truly take affect. Nothing happens magically.

That’s why bush 41 doesn’t get enough credit for fixing or trying to fix Reagan policies plus dealing. With end of the Cold War.

On the opposite side. Did jimmy Carter massive inflation problem. Who was to blame for that? I don’t think Carter deserves all the blame. It was side consequences of the Nixon years.

 
Economic policies take 4-5 years to truly take affect. Nothing happens magically.

That’s why bush 41 doesn’t get enough credit for fixing or trying to fix Reagan policies plus dealing. With end of the Cold War.

On the opposite side. Did jimmy Carter massive inflation problem. Who was to blame for that? I don’t think Carter deserves all the blame. It was side consequences of the Nixon years.

Eh, doesn't really work that way.

Budgets and spending are done yearly
Tax cuts are done yearly

Economic results can takes 1,2,3,5,7,9 years depending on the specific policy, cut, investment

But in the end, a president gets credit or blame for the results under his watch
 
I have one word for all you fellow economic doomer gloomers- bitcoin. As in you should buy some. A lot.
It’s at this point, when you guys are all over the place, the national debt is a crisis/or no, it’s so big it’s an abstract concept gimme my tax cut, confusion about basic economic facts when different parties are in power, to the penultimate, let’s throw away our current economic system and invest our money into what’s essentially an investment in Cabbage Patch Kids, it’s hard to take conservative/Republican/MAGA arguments seriously anymore.
People are people and no one has all the answers, but the degree of blame shifting, goal post moving, rationalizing political behavior that even pretty recently would be considered absurd, here we are now, with board certified physicians telling us to essentially start Beanie Baby collections on a mass scale. It’s madness I tell you!
 
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It’s at this point, when you guys are all over the place, the national debt is a crisis/or no, it’s so big it’s an abstract concept gimme my tax cut, confusion about basic economic facts when different parties are in power, to the penultimate, let’s throw away our current economic system and invest our money into what’s essentially an investment in Cabbage Patch Kids, it’s hard to take conservative/Republican/MAGA arguments seriously anymore.
People are people and no one has all the answers, but the degree of blame shifting, goal post moving, rationalizing political behavior that even pretty recently would be considered absurd, here we are now, with board certified physicians telling us to essentially start Beanie Baby collections on a mass scale. It’s madness I tell you!
Yea.

Problem is that MAGA has entirely committed themselves to conspiracy theories and BS.

Its gotten to the point that folks are blaming DEI and cloud seeding for the floods in Texas..and ignoring climate change and local budget cuts.

Meanwhile property insurance companies cant raise rates fast enough as they actually are planning for climate change.

Cant expect the government to make rational climate mitigation strategies and emergency planning when they cant even identify the problem
 
Yea.

Problem is that MAGA has entirely committed themselves to conspiracy theories and BS.

Its gotten to the point that folks are blaming DEI and cloud seeding for the floods in Texas..and ignoring climate change and local budget cuts.

Meanwhile property insurance companies cant raise rates fast enough as they actually are planning for climate change.

Cant expect the government to make rational climate mitigation strategies and emergency planning when they cant even identify the problem
Especially since even educated, board certified physicians believe a lot of this stuff. Imagine, the national debt is apparently the greatest crisis of our generation according to Republicans, maybe they believed that for DECADES, and in the span of months, do a complete reversal and tell us to invest in Beanie Babies. Hell, they will change their entire worldview, all their precious libertarian, “small government” ideals TOMORROW if Trump tells them to. It’s insane.

In the past, I tried to give these guys a fair hearing, thinking it was just a difference of opinion. Not anymore.
 
It’s at this point, when you guys are all over the place, the national debt is a crisis/or no, it’s so big it’s an abstract concept gimme my tax cut, confusion about basic economic facts when different parties are in power, to the penultimate, let’s throw away our current economic system and invest our money into what’s essentially an investment in Cabbage Patch Kids, it’s hard to take conservative/Republican/MAGA arguments seriously anymore.
People are people and no one has all the answers, but the degree of blame shifting, goal post moving, rationalizing political behavior that even pretty recently would be considered absurd, here we are now, with board certified physicians telling us to essentially start Beanie Baby collections on a mass scale. It’s madness I tell you!
Huh? You clearly dont understand what bitcoin is. Its the closest thing to God’s money. What an ignorant statement. As much as I disagree with some of your politics, I urge you to educate yourself on what bitcoin is and get on the train before you’re ****ed. Understand that I 100% recognize the severity of the coming economic crisis. Thats exactly WHY Im buying butcoin. You just dont get it, because you’re not educated enough on it and you’re refusing to see the forest level view buddy.
 
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Especially since even educated, board certified physicians believe a lot of this stuff. Imagine, the national debt is apparently the greatest crisis of our generation according to Republicans, maybe they believed that for DECADES, and in the span of months, do a complete reversal and tell us to invest in Beanie Babies. Hell, they will change their entire worldview, all their precious libertarian, “small government” ideals TOMORROW if Trump tells them to. It’s insane.

In the past, I tried to give these guys a fair hearing, thinking it was just a difference of opinion. Not anymore.
Dude get a grip. This is the cycle of all of history. Major crises—>major catalyzing events—>new world order. Rinse and repeat. Thats whats happening, whether you (or I) like it or not.
 
Anyone ever read some Carl Sagan? Pretty prescient. This has been in the making for awhile. And it doesn’t seem like it’ll improve
I read it, Demon Haunted World. Eerily prescient. Just look at @TeslaCoil. Instead of intellectual honesty, he resorts to the “this global cataclysmic stuff happens all the time”, or just ASSERTS that crypto is “God’s money”. It’s insanity on a mass scale, and even some of the most educated people in our society will make these claims without batting an eye.

The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’” ― Isaac Asimov
 
Anyone ever read some Carl Sagan? Pretty prescient. This has been in the making for awhile. And it doesn’t seem like it’ll improve
@TeslaCoil going to out on a limb and surmise you haven’t read this book chief
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But if you want my copy, I’ll fed ex it to you for 1 Beanie Baby. The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark Reprint, Sagan, Carl - Amazon.com
 
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Huh? You clearly dont understand what bitcoin is. Its the closest thing to God’s money. What an ignorant statement. As much as I disagree with some of your politics, I urge you to educate yourself on what bitcoin is and get on the train before you’re ****ed. Understand that I 100% recognize the severity of the coming economic crisis. Thats exactly WHY Im buying butcoin. You just dont get it, because you’re not educated enough on it and you’re refusing to see the forest level view buddy.
BTW, I have several crypto currencies as a speculative side bet, and I’ve had a basket of currencies for years as an early adopter. I don’t know you, but I’m pretty up to speed on crypto, including its history and how it works (to the best of my ability). If you think you are talking to someone clueless about crypto, you would be wrong.

When someone says to buy a lot of a speculative security, it’s almost always a sign that said person doesn’t know what they are talking about. Whether it’s price volatility, lack of intrinsic value, lack of regulatory certainty, among many others, make crypto a very risky investment that should be a very SMALL part of any prudent investor’s portfolio. Your advice is foolish in the extreme.

This is what I am talking about, the bombast, the lack of seriousness, the willingness to make extreme statements about one’s knowledge ( or really, ignorance) on a subject is a red flag. I would guess most people reading this exchange understand that. However, it’s a useful reminder to those reading that this is not a normal conversation.
 
I read it, Demon Haunted World. Eerily prescient. Just look at @TeslaCoil. Instead of intellectual honesty, he resorts to the “this global cataclysmic stuff happens all the time”, or just ASSERTS that crypto is “God’s money”. It’s insanity on a mass scale, and even some of the most educated people in our society will make these claims without batting an eye.

The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’” ― Isaac Asimov
No. It IS Gods money. It has the properties of Gods money. If you understood it, Im sure a halfway intelligent person such as yourself would see it too. Its the first ever money that operates on unconditional consensus. Thats what makes it Gods money. It cant be debased like dollars. In fact as dollars get debased its value will only appreciate. But ok. Dont pull your head out of the hole. 🤷🏻‍♂️ your loss. Your unhinged ranting makes you seem pretty clouded. What is it you’d like the right OR the left to do about the national deficit? There are only a few choices… inflate it away or go to war over it, or try by some miracle to balance things and pay it off? Which one of those do you think is most likely from any party? In my opinion its- inflate it away. Thats exactly whats been happening for presidency after presidency no matter who is at the helm. And thats what will continue to happen. Theres only one way out and thats to use a sovereign form of money. Gold. Bitcoin.

Dont you understand the actual reason why that bitcoin you’re holding is really worth anything?
 
BTW, I have several crypto currencies as a speculative side bet, and I’ve had a basket of currencies for years as an early adopter. I don’t know you, but I’m pretty up to speed on crypto, including its history and how it works (to the best of my ability). If you think you are talking to someone clueless about crypto, you would be wrong.

When someone says to buy a lot of a speculative security, it’s almost always a sign that said person doesn’t know what they are talking about. Whether it’s price volatility, lack of intrinsic value, lack of regulatory certainty, among many others, make crypto a very risky investment that should be a very SMALL part of any prudent investor’s portfolio. Your advice is foolish in the extreme.

This is what I am talking about, the bombast, the lack of seriousness, the willingness to make extreme statements about one’s knowledge on a subject is a red flag. I would guess most people reading this exchange understand that. However, it’s a useful reminder to those reading that this is not a normal conversation.
I dunno. Sometimes it best to go big. New grad 2023 has close to 1 million in bitcoin I thought he was crazy when I first met him. Like he’s all in with bitcoin.

Sometimes the biggest gamblers make it big and are done early. But this dude was so freaking weird. Definitely Asperger. He even told me. But those are the smartest guys. Maybe not the most social guy but smart guy.
 
No. It IS Gods money. It has the properties of Gods money. If you understood it, Im sure a halfway intelligent person such as yourself would see it too. Its the first ever money that operates on unconditional consensus. Thats what makes it Gods money. It cant be debased like dollars. In fact as dollars get debased its value will only appreciate. But ok. Dont pull your head out of the hole. 🤷🏻‍♂️ your loss. Your unhinged ranting makes you seem pretty clouded. What is it you’d like the right OR the left to do about the national deficit? There are only a few choices… inflate it away or go to war over it, or try by some miracle to balance things and pay it off? Which one of those do you think is most likely from any party? In my opinion its- inflate it away. Thats exactly whats been happening for presidency after presidency no matter who is at the helm. And thats what will continue to happen. Theres only one way out and thats to use a sovereign form of money. Gold. Bitcoin.

Dont you understand the actual reason why that bitcoin you’re holding is really worth anything?
@TeslaCoil Man, keep going. You are making my case for me, and you don’t even realize it. Educate all of us some more on gold and crypto, at least a couple of more paragraphs so I can finally understand your wisdom. Thanks in advance!
 
I dunno. Sometimes it best to go big. New grad 2023 has close to 1 million in bitcoin I thought he was crazy when I first met him. Like he’s all in with bitcoin.

Sometimes the biggest gamblers make it big and are done early. But this dude was so freaking weird. Definitely Asperger. He even told me. But those are the smartest guys. Maybe not the most social guy but smart guy.
At what price will people actually do their research and educate themselves on money to the point that they truly understand what time old monetary problems bitcoin solves? Why its the best and purest form of money ever created? Incorruptible. Non-sovereign. Consensus. Portable. Durable. Fungible. Divisible. Un-censorable. Cross-border. Scarce. Etc
 
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@TeslaCoil Man, keep going. You are making my case for me, and you don’t even realize it. Educate all of us some more on gold and crypto, at least a couple of more paragraphs so I can finally understand your wisdom. Thanks in advance!
The case that what? Im not facing the facts that we’re headed for an economic crisis due to off-the-chain debt? Due to hyperinflation? Etc what exactly? I recognize all of that quite well. What is your proposed solution? Thats what Im asking you point blank.
 
The case that what? Im not facing the facts that we’re headed for an economic crisis due to off-the-chain debt? Due to hyperinflation? Etc what exactly? I recognize all of that quite well. What is your proposed solution? Thats what Im asking you point blank.
No sir, unlike you, I don’t have all the answers. I lack your certainty. Sure, I have ideas and opinions, but they are based on trusted experts, not silly physicians who think they know everything. What I am pointing out for everyone to see is that the problem is that you ARE SO CERTAIN of your beliefs, it doesn’t even occur to you to question them. Being certain about things you know little about is likely the MOST important virtue for folks like you. Instead of the discomfort of NOT knowing it all, you relieve that anxiety by not only expressing profound certainty of your own ignorance, but you make it your mission in life to make sure everyone else believes in your nonsense. People are waking up to this sickness. I hope you will one day too.
 
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I dunno. Sometimes it best to go big. New grad 2023 has close to 1 million in bitcoin I thought he was crazy when I first met him. Like he’s all in with bitcoin.

Sometimes the biggest gamblers make it big and are done early. But this dude was so freaking weird. Definitely Asperger. He even told me. But those are the smartest guys. Maybe not the most social guy but smart guy.
Worst. Advice. Ever
 
No sir, unlike you, I don’t have all the answers. I lack your certainty. Sure, I have ideas and opinions, but they are based on trusted experts, not silly physicians who think they know everything. What I am pointing out for everyone to see is that the problem is that you ARE SO CERTAIN of your beliefs, it doesn’t even occur to you to question them. Being certain about things you know little about is likely the MOST important virtue for folks like you. Instead of the discomfort of NOT knowing it all, you relieve that anxiety by not only expressing profound certainty of your own ignorance, but you make it your mission in life to make everyone believes in your nonsense. People are waking up to this sickness. I hope you will one day too.
Im certain that you know how to present problems and point fingers while refusing to produce any opinion as to a solution. I am not certain. Im just hedged. Hedged as best as anyone can be and thats my whole point. Is that you should try to hedge as best as you can, because you cant control the national deficit or the world order etc. If you keep all your investments in dollar based assets you’re gonna lose your ass. How does that make me ignorant? 😂
 
“This dude was so freaking weird. Definitely Asperger”. @aneftp , haha, I am laughing out loud. Take a look in the mirror. I’m at the point of wondering, is this all just an act? I don’t think it is. Bizarre.
Nah. I’m very normal. Tons of friends. Family. I am very social. Go out. Hang out with normal non medical friends. I have a life outside of work. Asperger people don’t.

I like to point out narratives and agenda and knuckleheads who won’t budge on their ideology.

I see the world much better than everyone.
 
There was a time when the Segway evangelists would go on and on about how they would reshape cities and, indeed, our entire society. Bitcoin evangelists sound exactly the same to me.

It's difficult for me to think of another investment that that was SO good that everyone in it were so insistent that everyone else get in, too. I always thought great investments were supposed to be kind of secret.
 
Nah. I’m very normal. Tons of friends. Family. I am very social. Go out. Hang out with normal non medical friends. I have a life outside of work. Asperger people don’t.

I like to point out narratives and agenda and knuckleheads who won’t budge on their ideology.

I see the world much better than everyone.
Much better than everyone?

What does that even mean...
 
There was a time when the Segway evangelists would go on and on about how they would reshape cities and, indeed, our entire society. Bitcoin evangelists sound exactly the same to me.

It's difficult for me to think of another investment that that was SO good that everyone in it were so insistent that everyone else get in, too. I always thought great investments were supposed to be kind of secret.
NFTs...

Another investment in which most people didn't know what they were or how to use them...

All it will take is one major recession...and people will start cashing out their Bitcoin and it will plummet.

It has no inherent value or mainstream use. Its only worth something because its worth something.
 
Im certain that you know how to present problems and point fingers while refusing to produce any opinion as to a solution. I am not certain. Im just hedged. Hedged as best as anyone can be and thats my whole point. Is that you should try to hedge as best as you can, because you cant control the national deficit or the world order etc. If you keep all your investments in dollar based assets you’re gonna lose your ass. How does that make me ignorant? 😂
See, this is very typical for “thinkers” like you. First you say about bitcoin, “As in you should buy some. A lot.” In other words, do exactly as you state, buy A LOT of beanie babies. Now that you’ve been pantsed and shown for the intellectual lightweight that you are, all of a sudden, you’ve gone soft. Maybe not so sure anymore, maybe now I’ve changed my mind in literally five minutes to “all in, the sky is falling” to “well, the sky is still falling, but it’s prudent to “hedge” in the face of such uncertainty!”. Haha. It’s exactly what I just stated, and you are literally parroting my words. Don’t you realize what you are doing?

@aneftp does the same exact thing, pretends, well, not pretends, he says he is smarter than 98% of people he knows, like it’s a normal statement to make among his peers. He’ll make some dip**** observation, someone easily dunks on him, he subconsciously realizes it, and then changes his tune in a multitude of ways so he can still feel comfortable thinking of himself as being a “98%er”. You guys aren’t fooling anyone, even if you likely have no idea what you are doing.
 
Nah. I’m very normal. Tons of friends. Family. I am very social. Go out. Hang out with normal non medical friends. I have a life outside of work. Asperger people don’t.

I like to point out narratives and agenda and knuckleheads who won’t budge on their ideology.

I see the world much better than everyone.
I know quite a few people like you, have families, are social (or so you think). Plenty of neurodivergent people have normal social lives, again, your ignorance knows no bounds. And everyone knows that you are missing a chip, they just don’t tell you, because they are polite and probably feel sorry for you. I am telling you.
 
It is an incredibly succinct way to admit that you lack any and all form of introspection. Like a bot account that was instructed to behave in a way that always showcased and reflected the qualities of a pure narcissist.
I’m telling you man. @aneftp recently bragged that he keeps his AC at 82 degrees during the Florida summer. Yeah, the guy clearing tons of money doing locums ( according to him) to save a few hundred a month. It just so happens that with modern materials, server rooms can achieve reasonable efficiency at 82 degrees. I contend that @aneftp is an experimental LLM being tested by DARPA for use in psychological operations. It could be true. Based on his statements, I almost hope it is.
 
There was a time when the Segway evangelists would go on and on about how they would reshape cities and, indeed, our entire society. Bitcoin evangelists sound exactly the same to me.

It's difficult for me to think of another investment that that was SO good that everyone in it were so insistent that everyone else get in, too. I always thought great investments were supposed to be kind of secret.


Reminds me of the silver and gold ads a la William Devane. If they are indeed great investments, they should be quietly hoarding it at the lowest possible price, not selling it. The only reason to pump something is to dump it.
 
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See, this is very typical for “thinkers” like you. First you say about bitcoin, “As in you should buy some. A lot.” In other words, do exactly as you state, buy A LOT of beanie babies. Now that you’ve been pantsed and shown for the intellectual lightweight that you are, all of a sudden, you’ve gone soft. Maybe not so sure anymore, maybe now I’ve changed my mind in literally five minutes to “all in, the sky is falling” to “well, the sky is still falling, but it’s prudent to “hedge” in the face of such uncertainty!”. Haha. It’s exactly what I just stated, and you are literally parroting my words. Don’t you realize what you are doing?

@aneftp does the same exact thing, pretends, well, not pretends, he says he is smarter than 98% of people he knows, like it’s a normal statement to make among his peers. He’ll make some dip**** observation, someone easily dunks on him, he subconsciously realizes it, and then changes his tune in a multitude of ways so he can still feel comfortable thinking of himself as being a “98%er”. You guys aren’t fooling anyone, even if you likely have no idea what you are doing.
No sorry. I may not have a crystal ball but Ive never been more sure about anything in my life. Bitcoin is gods money. And therefore I stack a lot of it. Its probably 20% of my portfolio. But I also live a financially conservative life in preparation for the incoming doomsday you keep referring to. Which I'm also quite sure is coming. Talking to you, however, is like talking to a wall. You are so blinded by your hate for conservatives that you’re completely unwilling to open your mind. Bitcoin is not “beanie babies”. Can you send beanie babies to your cousin who is starving in Ukraine with the push of a button? Can you put a whole bunch of “beanie babies” into a duffel bag when this country has been pillaged into oblivion and you have to flee to save your family? No. When bitcoin is worth a million a piece will you then at least open up to what it actually is and does? Only an ignoramus likens bitcoin to something like tulips and beanie babies. You as a physician (if you are indeed a physician) should be able to amass at least one whole coin, and that would be my absolute recommendation. But hey if you want to go down with the ship, see ya!

You could compare beanie babies to meme coin crap. Not bitcoin.
 
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sorry. I may not have a crystal ball but Ive never been more sure about anything in my life. Bitcoin is gods money. And therefore I stack a lot of it. Its probably 20% of my portfolio.
There are other ways to hedge inflation, to prepare for an expected economic collapse or financial (dollar) crisis.

Gold. Real estate. To an extent, equities, unless you think that all of the companies selling goods and services for profit will also collapse - in which case, what will you spend your bitcoin on?

It's the bitcoiners' certainty in the nature of the coming crisis (abrupt, severe), the certainty that bitcoin is the only way to prepare, and the complete disregard for any of the risk (true believers) that makes me roll my eyes.

I own no bitcoin and I am going to be Just Fine. If societal or systemic financial calamity strikes, I expect I'll be far better off than most bitcoiners, for simple reasons related to where I live, my neighbors and the relationships I have with them, the things I have, the things I know how to do.

The average bitcoin evangelist sounds like a naively enthusiastic investor who's never known anything but bull markets, who thinks only in terms of making money. I'm agnostic on the future value of bitcoin. I don't know if it'll exceed the market cap of gold next year, or if people will crash it via panic selling it during a crisis to cover their margin calls or other expenses. I do know I don't need it.

But I also live a financially conservative life in preparation for the incoming doomsday you keep referring to. Which I'm also quite sure is coming.

This is wise, and far far more important than what you choose to invest your dollars in.

Doomsday or a doomsdecade or a multi-decade doomslide? When will it start? (I personally think it started in earnest during covid and will take decades to pan out, with few if any truly abrupt events beyond normal market corrections and recessions. But I don't know.)

Talking to you, however, is like talking to a wall.

Just consider that bitcoin isn't your only option, and that the degree of certainty you have is itself a red flag and a risk.
 
Reminds me of the silver and gold ads a la William Devane. If they are indeed great investments, they should be quietly hoarding it at the lowest possible price, not selling it. The only reason to pump something is to dump it.
Those companies make money buying from people below spot and selling to people above spot. It doesn't matter what the spot price is, if it goes up, or if it goes down.

The only thing that matters is how much they can hype it to people who will buy when they have spare cash and sell when the rent is unexpectedly due. Preferably in small quantities so the spread is high. Churning gram bars and 1/10th oz Eagles to those people (primarily conservative TV news watchers) is where they make their money - we're talking 10%+ transaction costs each way.
 
I’m telling you man. @aneftp recently bragged that he keeps his AC at 82 degrees during the Florida summer. Yeah, the guy clearing tons of money doing locums ( according to him) to save a few hundred a month. It just so happens that with modern materials, server rooms can achieve reasonable efficiency at 82 degrees. I contend that @aneftp is an experimental LLM being tested by DARPA for use in psychological operations. It could be true. Based on his statements, I almost hope it is.
I valued certain aspects of my financial resources.
I don’t like paying for electricity in the house. It saves me probably $100 extra each month.

I’m not the only one. Even with electric cars. Everyone is cheap and tries to charge at the hospital electric parking slot to save themselves $3 per charge probably. So lots of complaints people weren’t providing common courtesy to move their electric cars after they were done charging. The admin decides to starting for electric car usage. It’s 50 cente per hour to charge around 25 miles per hour range. You are talking the average person in only needs to charge it 1 hour at most. And now no one uses those charges.
 
See, this is very typical for “thinkers” like you. First you say about bitcoin, “As in you should buy some. A lot.” In other words, do exactly as you state, buy A LOT of beanie babies. Now that you’ve been pantsed and shown for the intellectual lightweight that you are, all of a sudden, you’ve gone soft. Maybe not so sure anymore, maybe now I’ve changed my mind in literally five minutes to “all in, the sky is falling” to “well, the sky is still falling, but it’s prudent to “hedge” in the face of such uncertainty!”. Haha. It’s exactly what I just stated, and you are literally parroting my words. Don’t you realize what you are doing?

@aneftp does the same exact thing, pretends, well, not pretends, he says he is smarter than 98% of people he knows, like it’s a normal statement to make among his peers. He’ll make some dip**** observation, someone easily dunks on him, he subconsciously realizes it, and then changes his tune in a multitude of ways so he can still feel comfortable thinking of himself as being a “98%er”. You guys aren’t fooling anyone, even if you likely have no idea what you are doing.
Dude. I refute most of the stuff you say and you are just the wall you claim others are. If I’m wrong. I’d admit it. Unlike most of you on this board.

That’s the difference. When someone calls someone psychopath narcissist. It’s really reflecting who they are. Have you seen all these crazy women their husbands narcissist. It’s the most overused word.

You probably feel sorry for people who have fibromyalgia just like the rest of the liberals when it’s just a made up diagnosis for 70-% of the people wrongfully diagnosed with it.
 
No sorry. I may not have a crystal ball but Ive never been more sure about anything in my life. Bitcoin is gods money. And therefore I stack a lot of it. Its probably 20% of my portfolio. But I also live a financially conservative life in preparation for the incoming doomsday you keep referring to. Which I'm also quite sure is coming. Talking to you, however, is like talking to a wall. You are so blinded by your hate for conservatives that you’re completely unwilling to open your mind. Bitcoin is not “beanie babies”. Can you send beanie babies to your cousin who is starving in Ukraine with the push of a button? Can you put a whole bunch of “beanie babies” into a duffel bag when this country has been pillaged into oblivion and you have to flee to save your family? No. When bitcoin is worth a million a piece will you then at least open up to what it actually is and does? Only an ignoramus likens bitcoin to something like tulips and beanie babies. You as a physician (if you are indeed a physician) should be able to amass at least one whole coin, and that would be my absolute recommendation. But hey if you want to go down with the ship, see ya!

You could compare beanie babies to meme coin crap. Not bitcoin.
If the financial system collapsed...bitcoin will not be used as a transactional currency.

Will there even be an Internet to send it? Starlink will accept Bitcoin but not dollars? How will you buy bitcoin if there are no dollars anymore? How will you cash out your Bitcoin?
 
I know quite a few people like you, have families, are social (or so you think). Plenty of neurodivergent people have normal social lives, again, your ignorance knows no bounds. And everyone knows that you are missing a chip, they just don’t tell you, because they are polite and probably feel sorry for you. I am telling you.
Nope. Sorry to tell you. I live on planet earth. You live on planet numtacos. Whatever world you think you live in. It sure as heck ain’t this planet.

Again. Calling someone ignorant. Really says something. I don’t use those words on anyone specific. I call people idiots in general. Just like im gonna to start calling you an idiot.
 
Dude. I refute most of the stuff you say and you are just the wall you claim others are. If I’m wrong. I’d admit it. Unlike most of you on this board.

That’s the difference. When someone calls someone psychopath narcissist. It’s really reflecting who they are. Have you seen all these crazy women their husbands narcissist. It’s the most overused word.

You probably feel sorry for people who have fibromyalgia just like the rest of the liberals when it’s just a made up diagnosis for 70-% of the people wrongfully diagnosed with it.
Wait...

I didn't realize that fibromyalgia was a liberal disease. So..its made up for 70%..but the other 30% its real? How do we determine which one is real?

Wait...why are we talking about fibromyalgia? Weren't we just talking about electric car charging?

Whats the next topic??
 
If the financial system collapsed...bitcoin will not be used as a transactional currency.

Will there even be an Internet to send it? Starlink will accept Bitcoin but not dollars? How will you buy bitcoin if there are no dollars anymore? How will you cash out your Bitcoin?
If financial system collapses. Bitcoin survives.

Be Netflix and change with time.

That’s why the traditional model is so freaked out by alternatives. They will defend the trad financial system to the end.

Most of us lived through 2008 collapse. You can see the panic. The system isn’t setup to handle collapse.
 
Wait...

I didn't realize that fibromyalgia was a liberal disease. So..its made up for 70%..but the other 30% its real? How do we determine which one is real?

Wait...why are we talking about fibromyalgia? Weren't we just talking about electric car charging?

Whats the next topic??
Admit it. You believe in fibromyalgia.

Electric car charging analogy because people are too cheap to charge at home which and when the hospital started charging basically the same as at home. People stopped using it even though it cost them the same.
 
There are other ways to hedge inflation, to prepare for an expected economic collapse or financial (dollar) crisis.

Gold. Real estate. To an extent, equities, unless you think that all of the companies selling goods and services for profit will also collapse - in which case, what will you spend your bitcoin on?

It's the bitcoiners' certainty in the nature of the coming crisis (abrupt, severe), the certainty that bitcoin is the only way to prepare, and the complete disregard for any of the risk (true believers) that makes me roll my eyes.

I own no bitcoin and I am going to be Just Fine. If societal or systemic financial calamity strikes, I expect I'll be far better off than most bitcoiners, for simple reasons related to where I live, my neighbors and the relationships I have with them, the things I have, the things I know how to do.

The average bitcoin evangelist sounds like a naively enthusiastic investor who's never known anything but bull markets, who thinks only in terms of making money. I'm agnostic on the future value of bitcoin. I don't know if it'll exceed the market cap of gold next year, or if people will crash it via panic selling it during a crisis to cover their margin calls or other expenses. I do know I don't need it.



This is wise, and far far more important than what you choose to invest your dollars in.

Doomsday or a doomsdecade or a multi-decade doomslide? When will it start? (I personally think it started in earnest during covid and will take decades to pan out, with few if any truly abrupt events beyond normal market corrections and recessions. But I don't know.)



Just consider that bitcoin isn't your only option, and that the degree of certainty you have is itself a red flag and a risk.
Ok 1) You dont know what you’re saying. I wasnt born yesterday. I know there are other ways to prepare, and thats why Im diversified. But yes, after reading multiple books about bitcoin and taking a college level course on it, Im convinced its the BEST way to hedge against inflation. Along with gold. Real estate to a degree, yes, until the crisis spills over into that market. Which will also happen eventually. Personally I think its not smart at all for anyone not to have any bitcoin exposure at this point. But okay. Do you.

2) I dunno when the real doom will start, but I think its obviously incoming at some point. Eventually it will be time to pay the piper somehow. A great great depression? WW3? Who knows. Not even the greatest economic scholars know how this will play out.

3)Im aware there are other ways. Im probably 35% real estate. Maybe more. Im probably, I dunno, 30ish% stocks/funds.

Again, my advice to any physician is to acquire just 1 bitcoin and call it a day. But you better get moving because theres not much left, and it wont be affordable for much longer.
 
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If the financial system collapsed...bitcoin will not be used as a transactional currency.

Will there even be an Internet to send it? Starlink will accept Bitcoin but not dollars? How will you buy bitcoin if there are no dollars anymore? How will you cash out your Bitcoin?
If its truly the end of the world then, nothing matters anymore. I dont think it’ll get that far unless we really annihilate the world in nuclear fire. Im more hopeful than that.

But Im curious to find out why you think bitcoin cannot be used as transacting currency? You know there are new layers coming that speed up the network immensely.
 
If its truly the end of the world then, nothing matters anymore. I dont think it’ll get that far unless we really annihilate the world in nuclear fire. Im more hopeful than that.

But Im curious to find out why you think bitcoin cannot be used as transacting currency? You know there are new layers coming that speed up the network immensely.
Its far too cumbersome to use, costs money to use it requires infrastructure to use it (internet), the value fluctuates way too much, the vast majority of businesses dont accept it and wont pay their employees with it, and there isn't enough of it

It does have a use as a way to transfer wealth from one country to another..and then CASH out via local currency

But it still requires a functional local currency. So it will remain as a fringe store of wealth until people lose interest in it, and then it will start to lose its wealth and then it will snowball
 
Admit it. You believe in fibromyalgia.

Electric car charging analogy because people are too cheap to charge at home which and when the hospital started charging basically the same as at home. People stopped using it even though it cost them the same.
So fibromyalgia isnt real then? I thought you said it was 70% fake and 30% real? So if i am taking a medical history, should i ask if they are lib or maga?

Curious. Any diseases that are associated with maga then, since the libs apparently own fibromyalgia?

People stopped using free charging when it stopped being free? What if they had fibromyalgia?
 
Its far too cumbersome to use, costs money to use it requires infrastructure to use it (internet), the value fluctuates way too much, the vast majority of businesses dont accept it and wont pay their employees with it, and there isn't enough of it

It does have a use as a way to transfer wealth from one country to another..and then CASH out via local currency

But it still requires a functional local currency. So it will remain as a fringe store of wealth until people lose interest in it, and then it will start to lose its wealth and then it will snowball
Do you see tax free havens like Principality of Monaco as final destination of crypto currencies since they don’t impose any personal income taxes

I know countries like the USA tax crypto so I don’t how many people actually pay taxes on the gains.
 
Do you see tax free havens like Principality of Monaco as final destination of crypto currencies since they don’t impose any personal income taxes

I know countries like the USA tax crypto so I don’t how many people actually pay taxes on the gains.
Thats another reason it wont be used as a currency.

If you get paid .0000001 bitcoin for a shift at Walmart, in this new world, and then it goes up in value, you have to pay taxes on the gains? But..how to we determine its value..oh wait..we have to convert it to dollars to do that.

So we need a local currency
 
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