Applied 20 different schools from previous cycle, am I reapplicant?

[Cali_premed_lyfe87]

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>Be me, apply to 5 schools underprepared and get rejected to all 5 schools
>Retook MCAT: 494 -> 517; applied following cycle
>Did not apply to the previous 5 schools in the 1st failed cycle; applied to 20 new schools

When those schools ask if I ever applied to any medical schools, will they know I was reapplicant even if they didn't receive my primary? Some schools explicitly say if you applied to OUR school in the past, while others ask if you have EVER applied. For those that ask the "Have you ever applied to medical school," couldn't I say "No." They wouldn't have a record of my previous application unless I applied there before, right?

Unless when schools get a primary, are they able to see an applicant's past application history even if they never applied there?

 

[and 99 others]

For those that ask the "Have you ever applied to medical school," couldn't I say "No." They wouldn't have a record of my previous application unless I applied there before, right?

So, this reads to me as "Can I just lie?"

The question is pretty black and white. Have you ever applied to medical school? That is objectively a yes.

In general, I think that regardless of the logistics of how/if your lie will surface, lying on an application that determines your future is ill-advised, to say the least. But hey, go for it. More space for the rest of us.

 

[imbesrs]

You are a reapplicant in every sense of the word. If they ask if you have ever applied to medical schools, you must say yes.

 

[Cali_premed_lyfe87]

So, this reads to me as "Can I just lie?"

The question is pretty black and white. Have you ever applied to medical school? That is objectively a yes.

In general, I think that regardless of the logistics of how/if your lie will surface, lying on an application that determines your future is ill-advised, to say the least. But hey, go for it. More space for the rest of us.

Yeah it comes off like that tbh. What i'm really asking is if schools even have the means verify that lie. If I never applied there, they wouldn't even know technically

 

[imbesrs]

Yeah it comes off like that tbh. What i'm really asking is if schools even have the means verify that lie. If I never applied there, they wouldn't even know technically

They probably can. You dont know what they do know, therefore you play to all precautions.

 

[Cornfed101]

Yeah it comes off like that tbh. What i'm really asking is if schools even have the means verify that lie. If I never applied there, they wouldn't even know technically

This is a bad idea. It is much worse to be caught lying than to have reapplied. Especially when you can just explain that you reapplied due to a poor MCAT.

Medical schools don't exist in a bubble. They can talk to each other and if they find out you lied you will be rejected immediately. It won't even hurt you that much to reapply for the reasons you are reapplying.

 

[deleted962973]

Yeah it comes off like that tbh. What i'm really asking is if schools even have the means verify that lie. If I never applied there, they wouldn't even know technically

It comes off like that because that’s exactly what you’re asking lol

 

[FreeGibbs]

>Be me, apply to 5 schools underprepared and get rejected to all 5 schools
>Retook MCAT: 494 -> 517; applied following cycle
>Did not apply to the previous 5 schools in the 1st failed cycle; applied to 20 new schools

When those schools ask if I ever applied to any medical schools, will they know I was reapplicant even if they didn't receive my primary? Some schools explicitly say if you applied to OUR school in the past, while others ask if you have EVER applied. For those that ask the "Have you ever applied to medical school," couldn't I say "No." They wouldn't have a record of my previous application unless I applied there before, right?

Unless when schools get a primary, are they able to see an applicant's past application history even if they never applied there?

Just designate it. It's just a yes/no simple question. It may even be favorable considering your new MCAT, and show grit that you're actively trying to be a better applicant.

 

[907914]

Yeah it comes off like that tbh. What i'm really asking is if schools even have the means verify that lie. If I never applied there, they wouldn't even know technically

Yes they can. I don’t know how but they can. Being that you were previously a <500, checking the yes likely won’t hurt you as it will be pretty easy to read between the lines and see that there is nothing wrong with you now, you were just unprepared.

 

[djiboutiman]

>Be me, apply to 5 schools underprepared and get rejected to all 5 schools
>Retook MCAT: 494 -> 517; applied following cycle
>Did not apply to the previous 5 schools in the 1st failed cycle; applied to 20 new schools

When those schools ask if I ever applied to any medical schools, will they know I was reapplicant even if they didn't receive my primary? Some schools explicitly say if you applied to OUR school in the past, while others ask if you have EVER applied. For those that ask the "Have you ever applied to medical school," couldn't I say "No." They wouldn't have a record of my previous application unless I applied there before, right?

Unless when schools get a primary, are they able to see an applicant's past application history even if they never applied there?

While I don’t think they can see if you applied to other schools, I would just be honest if I were you. That is one hell of an MCAT improvement and definitely constitutes a major application improvement.

 

[Cali_premed_lyfe87]

Medical schools don't exist in a bubble. They can talk to each other and if they find out you lied you will be rejected immediately.

Yeah thats the quesion im asking with this thread. Do schools really go through all that trouble with an applicant that has never applied to their school, and sift through the abyss of rejected applications from AAMC to prove it?

@gonnif @Goro @LizzyM Is this possible for schools to do for an applicant with no record of application to their school?

 

[deleted987519]

calipremed burner account

 

[Orangekiwi]

calipremed burner account

I don't know, calipremed at least skirts the edges where you aren't sure if they're trolling or not. This is a really poor attempt at trolling. I give it a 2/10

 

[differentiating]

Iirc, adcoms have mentioned that applicant ID numbers can give away a prior application cycle. So I think they’d know.

 

[rdyotz]

Everything is digital nowadays. It is not inconceivable to have a tab that would show past applications linked to the AAMC number. Any lying will likely result in withdrawing an acceptance or rejection, with a note being added to your AAMC file about untrustworthiness, which means auto-reject at most schools.

 

[Isoval]

A medical school class is between 50 and 300 students.

Do you really think they won’t verify every aspect of your application if you plan to matriculate? They don’t have very many to go through.

 

[907914]

A medical school class is between 50 and 300 students.

Do you really think they won’t verify every aspect of your application if you plan to matriculate? They don’t have very many to go through.

TBH I really don’t think they do verify everything...literally just the things that seem abnormal, atypical, or out of place.

 

[imbesrs]

I would tell you how I truly feel about this but as a native New Yorker my language would get me banned

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

 

[candbgirl]

Yeah it comes off like that tbh. What i'm really asking is if schools even have the means verify that lie. If I never applied there, they wouldn't even know technically

So you really, really want to lie and are trying to figure out how to not get caught? If you are asked on an application or in person if you have ever applied to med school before, just say YES.

 

[FreeGibbs]

Yeah thats the quesion im asking with this thread. Do schools really go through all that trouble with an applicant that has never applied to their school, and sift through the abyss of rejected applications from AAMC to prove it?

Jesus Christ, this thread. I can't tell if OP is trolling or not. I get that you want to know more about the process, but goddamn stop trying to validate your deceit lmao.

 

[Goro]

Yeah it comes off like that tbh. What i'm really asking is if schools even have the means verify that lie. If I never applied there, they wouldn't even know technically

I guarantee you that if you lie on your app, you might as well set your computer on fire because your medical career will be over.

Interesting that you wish to enter into a profession that places a high regard on honesty and professionalism by starting out with lying.

What are you afraid of, exactly?

 

[Engrailed]

I guarantee you that if you lie on your app, you might as well set your computer on fire because your medical career will be over.

Interesting that you wish to enter into a profession that places a high regard on honesty and professionalism by starting out with lying.

What are you afraid of, exactly?

Curious, would that sort of deception be grounds for revocation of acceptance if the candidate made it that far in the process?

 

[Goro]

Curious, would that sort of deception be grounds for revocation of acceptance if the candidate made it that far in the process?

You have to ask if lying on an application is not worth rejection? People have been dismissed for it.

 

[Cornfed101]

Curious, would that sort of deception be grounds for revocation of acceptance if the candidate made it that far in the process?

Better that you are dismissed now than thrown in prison later as a practicing physician.

 

[Seihai]

You have to ask if lying on an application is not worth rejection? People have been dismissed for it.

Keep in mind that dismissal means you don't get your tuition back and that you'll likely never be a physician or medical student again.

Why would anyone risk this for what seems to be an almost inconsequential question? I don't know, but OP seems determined to try.

 

[Engrailed]

Keep in mind that dismissal means you don't get your tuition back and that you'll likely never be a physician or medical student again.

Why would anyone risk this for what seems to be an almost inconsequential question? I don't know, but OP seems determined to try.

OP save yourself the headache... and potential prison time?! Dont do it!

 

[and 99 others]

OP, I'd also recommend you spend less time on 4chan. It is not doing your moral compass any favors.

 

[993444]

Yes they can. I don’t know how but they can.

Those are two contradictory statements.

 

[907914]

Those are two contradictory statements.

No they are not. They can find out. I don’t know how they know but I know they know.

 

[imbesrs]

OP is going to jail and calipremed is paying bail

 

[Engrailed]

Is calipremed walter?

 

[993444]

No they are not. They can find out. I don’t know how they know but I know they know.

How do you know they know?

 

[CaptainPoopyPants]

Those are two contradictory statements.

Magnets work. Idk how they work, but they work. This is not a contradiction.

 

[907914]

How do you know they know?

Anecdotally from the ADCOMs on here.

 

[993444]

Anecdotally from the ADCOMs on here.

There are various avenues of finding out if someone is a re-applicant without some sort of official "system" in place to see it:

-You see someone's facebook and a friend of their's comments "Happy B-Day hope you get into medical school soon!"
-The person has multiple LORs dated one year prior
-You call one of their contacts who lets it slip that the person applied last year
-The applicant himself or herself lets it slip in the interview and or secondary
-The applicant mysteriously "happened" to quit all their volunteering last year around early summer (as many applicants do when the submit the primary) without some legitimate reason such as moving back home

 

[Goro]

Is calipremed walter?

Nope. Two very different pathologies on parade.

 

[907914]

Nope. Two very different pathologies on parade.

Oh oh oh, diagnose me!

 

[Goro]

Oh oh oh, diagnose me!

You're normal.

 

[993444]

You're normal.

And me?

 

[Goro]

And me?

Even more normal.

 

[993444]

Even more normal.

May I take that as a compliment? 🙂

 

[Goro]

May I take that as a compliment? 🙂

yup

 

[993444]

yup

Please refer to my new avatar.