Applying to both dent and med, what is the reality

[Yalzarek]

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I have shadowed two specialties of both fields for a long duration and equally would be happy in either role and comprehend their differences. However, even if this is the case, no one cares in that respect so it is as equally bad as saying one profession would be a backup. Through viewing all threads of all topics, there has not been a concrete answer as to if now, in 2013, it is somehow possible for completely separate schools to know whether or not you have applied to dental and medical institutions. The obvious answer is "Yes" if you are applying to a school with both types of professional schools. However, if applying to two completely separate institutions, the answers have been akin to either "a friend did it fine, chose dentistry" or "a friend did it, they somehow still knew". The only way I can see this occurring is if privacy is not as "private" as believed. Thus, can anyone offer some type of concrete answer on this?

 

[sgv]

I have shadowed two specialties of both fields for a long duration and equally would be happy in either role and comprehend their differences. However, even if this is the case, no one cares in that respect so it is as equally bad as saying one profession would be a backup. Through viewing all threads of all topics, there has not been a concrete answer as to if now, in 2013, it is somehow possible for completely separate schools to know whether or not you have applied to dental and medical institutions. The obvious answer is "Yes" if you are applying to a school with both types of professional schools. However, if applying to two completely separate institutions, the answers have been akin to either "a friend did it fine, chose dentistry" or "a friend did it, they somehow still knew". The only way I can see this occurring is if privacy is not as "private" as believed. Thus, can anyone offer some type of concrete answer on this?

Lol stop tryin to impress the interwebz with ur wordy question. Its just confusing and doesnt make u sound any more intelligent. Brevity is the soul of wit...

On dental application they ask if you are applying to other professional schools. If you answer yes,they're not going to like it because it shows lack of commitment, flaky personality, and lack of dedication to either fields. If u answer no and lie, and if they find out, INSTANT REJECTION for you.

Dentistry is as far removed from most medical specialties as it gets. For decades, we've been glorified mechanics of the mouth and only now has the field started emphasizing minimally invasive/preventative medicine (less emphasis on surgery). I can't believe CAMBRA and evidence based dentistry have only now become hot topics. When did we start pushing for full scope patient examination and begin discussing the idea of dentists administering vaccines and screening for more severe, extra oral diseases? Only recently. Medicine is the thinking field.

Medicine is for people who like interesting topics and complexity. Dentistry is pretty dry where u memorize teeth architecture and the thought of pharmacokinetics/diff diagnosis rarely comes to mind...

MCAT's difficulty >>> DAT difficulty

If youre going to be someone who loves being dentist, you have to want a good lifestyle, manual labor, talking to people, business BS versus thinking a lot more, taking BS from bureaucrats, more schooling, and like basic science more as in medicine.

Advances in dentistry is usually taken from medical advances and even taking ideas from medicine takes an unusually long time to find its way into dental private practice.

 

[Frank22]

I have shadowed two specialties of both fields for a long duration and equally would be happy in either role and comprehend their differences. However, even if this is the case, no one cares in that respect so it is as equally bad as saying one profession would be a backup. Through viewing all threads of all topics, there has not been a concrete answer as to if now, in 2013, it is somehow possible for completely separate schools to know whether or not you have applied to dental and medical institutions. The obvious answer is "Yes" if you are applying to a school with both types of professional schools. However, if applying to two completely separate institutions, the answers have been akin to either "a friend did it fine, chose dentistry" or "a friend did it, they somehow still knew". The only way I can see this occurring is if privacy is not as "private" as believed. Thus, can anyone offer some type of concrete answer on this?

First of all you don't have to pretend to be stupid to be accepted, so sorry for the above poster's folly.

Secondly, yes, schools will know if you're applying to medical school and dental school simultaneously. It goes without saying that you will practice either dentistry or medicine, so you need to make the mature and wise decision to choose one and decide that you won't do the other.

 

[sgv]

First of all you don't have to pretend to be stupid to be accepted, so sorry for the above poster's folly.

Henceforth, I shall accept the person who talks like a normal person over a robot into my university anyday.

 

[Yalzarek]

Henceforth, I shall accept the person who talks like a normal person over a robot into my university anyday.

That is how I type regardless of the context. I never even knew that could be considered anything beyond normal.

 

[Yalzarek]

First of all you don't have to pretend to be stupid to be accepted, so sorry for the above poster's folly.

Secondly, yes, schools will know if you're applying to medical school and dental school simultaneously. It goes without saying that you will practice either dentistry or medicine, so you need to make the mature and wise decision to choose one and decide that you won't do the other.

Thanks, it's just how I type...there are no purposefully extravagant words in there and spellcheck is on here so I have no idea what he is talking about.

So how do you know that schools can find out if you are applying to both? That is what I want to know.

 

[Frank22]

Thanks, it's just how I type...there are no purposefully extravagant words in there and spellcheck is on here so I have no idea what he is talking about.

So how do you know that schools can find out if you are applying to both? That is what I want to know.

They will know because the AADSAS application asks you.

 

[Frank22]

Henceforth, I shall accept the person who talks like a normal person over a robot into my university anyday.

Who is forcing you to accept one type of person and reject another?

 

[Yalzarek]

They will know because the AADSAS application asks you.

Choosing "Yes" on the app will immediately exclude you from all the schools. How would they ever find out if you chose "No" is the question.

 

[sgv]

Choosing "Yes" on the app will immediately exclude you from all the schools. How would they ever find out if you chose "No" is the question.

Why would you ask this unless you're thinking of lying?

 

[Yalzarek]

Why would you ask this unless you're thinking of lying?

I am asking as I want to know how much truth there is to the anecdotes that I've read from several people on here which don't seem possible given the supposed levels of privacy stated.

 

[sgv]

Say you lie and say no and get into both med and dental school. Now you've got to make the same decision as you're making right now except you've just delayed the answer by a year and risked getting banned from both professions for lying. Even if u didnt lie and u get into both, all youve done is waste application & interview money to make the same decision that you couldve made now. The only rational reason why someone would do this is if ds was a backup for not getting to med school and they didnt want to wait a whole year to apply to ds.

So either ur an indecisive irrational predent/premed or a premed who has dental school as backup.

Ur too flaky...in a surgical profession and making in the moment emergency decision, you better not be flaky and waste time. U might kill someone...

 

[Yalzarek]

Say you lie and say no and get into both med and dental school. Now you've got to make the same decision as you're making right now except you've just delayed the answer by a year and risked getting banned from both professions for lying. Even if u didnt lie and u get into both, all youve done is waste application & interview money to make the same decision that you couldve made now. The only rational reason why someone would do this is if ds was a backup for not getting to med school and they didnt want to wait a whole year to reapply to ds.

So either ur an indecisive irrational predent/premed or a premed who has dental school as backup.

Ur too flaky...in a surgical profession and making in the moment decision, you better not be flaky and waste time. U might kill someone...

Yes, everything has to be a backup. You're right. Nope, people can't like two things equally, impossible. What rational person would believe that?

 

[sgv]

Yes, everything has to be a backup. You're right. Nope, people can't like two things equally, impossible. What rational person would believe that?

How is it rational to apply to both med/dent school just to delay a decision that couldve been made much earlier and not waste either med/den schools time. If you get into both and choose only one profession ur going to be wasting the other profession's time...thats unprofessional and sounds pretty stupid to me.

Not only will u have wasted ther time but u wasted ur time and money when u couldve just figured out the decision before applying

 

[Frank22]

Say you lie and say no and get into both med and dental school. Now you've got to make the same decision as you're making right now except you've just delayed the answer by a year and risked getting banned from both professions for lying. Even if u didnt lie and u get into both, all youve done is waste application & interview money to make the same decision that you couldve made now..

👍👍

 

[Yalzarek]

How is it rational to apply to both med/dent school just to delay a decision that couldve been made much earlier and not waste either med/den schools time. If you get into both and choose only one profession ur going to be wasting the other profession's time...thats unprofessional and sounds pretty stupid to me.

Not only will u have wasted ther time but u wasted ur time and money when u couldve just figured out the decision before applying

Versus not getting accepted into one and being accepted into the other thus saving yourself literally two years?

 

[sgv]

Versus not getting accepted into one and being accepted into the other thus saving yourself literally two years?

youd still waste one professions time...you gotta be professional and be considerate to both fields instead of being a megalomaniac/narcissist and only caring about what benefits you

So rather than being a human being and making a decision on you're own, you'd let the universe decide and be incredibly passive?

Most medical specialties compared to general dentistry (we're stumped over a patient using hand drills) is light and day. How can this be so hard for you?

 

[doc toothache]

The "reality" is that you are serious about neither.

 

[HdK]

lollll got ripped a new one

 

[Slumber]

Say you lie and say no and get into both med and dental school. Now you've got to make the same decision as you're making right now except you've just delayed the answer by a year and risked getting banned from both professions for lying. Even if u didnt lie and u get into both, all youve done is waste application & interview money to make the same decision that you couldve made now. The only rational reason why someone would do this is if ds was a backup for not getting to med school and they didnt want to wait a whole year to apply to ds.

So either ur an indecisive irrational predent/premed or a premed who has dental school as backup.

This 👍👍. Case closed.

 

[squigloo]

The "reality" is that you are serious about neither.

But yeah, pick one and stick to it. You're going to have to make the choice at some point, so focus your ambition on the path you choose instead of trying to balance both.

 

[Screwtape]

Yo yalzarek, I'm sorry that everyone is bashing you and not being helpful (supposedly what this forum is for). But I guess that's what you get from the anonymity of the internet. Now to your question, I doubt many people truly know the answer. I have heard of people applying to both and still getting into places, as I'm sure you've heard similar stories. But these are just anecdotes. There is definitely a negative stigma attached to students who apply to both, which I personally think is a little ridiculous. But anyways, I would say do some serious soul searching before you apply and just apply to one. And if you still can't make up your mind, apply to both and either take the risk of lying or telling the truth on your apps.

 

[sjv]

Also, the cost and time associated with DAT and MCAT prep in addition to primary applications and secondaries/supplements even before attending interviews would be astounding.

 

[Okilito]

Listen to docT. What he says may not be what you want to hear but it is absolutely true. There is a great deal of effort to become a good applicant for either one of these two schools. The reality is that if you are not committed to just one of them you will most likely fail to get into either one.

 

[Okilito]

lollll got ripped a new one

Got to love doc. When he's done with you, unless it really stinks, you won't know if it's a fart or a yawn.

 

[Silent Cool]

I have shadowed two specialties of both fields for a long duration and equally would be happy in either role and comprehend their differences. However, even if this is the case, no one cares in that respect so it is as equally bad as saying one profession would be a backup. Through viewing all threads of all topics, there has not been a concrete answer as to if now, in 2013, it is somehow possible for completely separate schools to know whether or not you have applied to dental and medical institutions. The obvious answer is "Yes" if you are applying to a school with both types of professional schools. However, if applying to two completely separate institutions, the answers have been akin to either "a friend did it fine, chose dentistry" or "a friend did it, they somehow still knew". The only way I can see this occurring is if privacy is not as "private" as believed. Thus, can anyone offer some type of concrete answer on this?

I read a post on SDN a while back that there would be some communication between the two application services. I contacted another student on here who was at the time a D1 and he confirmed that he had heard the same thing. But I'm not sure if it is true. My recommendation would be to tell the truth. You really don't know what can happen, but you certainly don't want that hanging over your head. I would do the following: because only the dental app. asks if you have or are applying to anything else, I would simply say yes and that you are still shadowing both professions to make a decision during this application cycle. If you are honest, that is the best thing for you to say.

good luck