Are Chapman's points real?

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No.

I was once out at the bar in med school and was a little tipsy. I saw one of our OMM professors at the bar. I walked up to her and said, "Chapman's points are bull**** and you know it." then walked away.

 

[batndz]

Maybe they're real? More research needed...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14620082

 

[Siggy]

Maybe they're real? More research needed...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14620082

I have it on good authority that pneumonia is also correlated with findings on a 2 view chest x-ray.

 

[sylvanthus]

I have it on good authority that pneumonia is also correlated with findings on a 2 view chest x-ray.

It may be a myth, but I hear a stethoscope sometimes picks up things.

 

[Didierdrogba]

Maybe they're real? More research needed...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14620082

If only 1 paper comes out in ten years saying there is a statistically significant relationship, then I suspect a strong strong strong publication bias

 

[Siggy]

If only 1 paper comes out in ten years saying there is a statistically significant relationship, then I suspect a strong strong strong publication bias

That's your basis for a strong publication bias, and not the JAOA is publishing a pro-OMT paper?

 

[Didierdrogba]

That's your basis for a strong publication bias, and not the JAOA is publishing a pro-OMT paper?

The article is from an JAOA journal right? What Im saying is that even on the JAOA journal, there are so few publications proving that Chapman points DO EXIST, there must be something going on, perhaps researchers hide the negative results?

 

[BobBarker]

Checking Chapman's points on my coccyx my OMT partner stuck her finger in my azzhole. I think it was an accident...

 

[Osteotastic]

Maybe they're real? More research needed...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14620082

I'd like to take a look at the full text for study design, controls, data analysis and blinding

Also, as most know in the research game... A study means little until its shown to be reproducible by independent researchers


Thus I remain HIGHLY skeptical

 

[Osteotastic]

Maybe they're real? More research needed...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14620082

Also, they chose the lungs. Of course someone with pneumonia is going to have tenderness between ribs from all the coughing , labored breathing, and physiological - scientifically sound CNS sympathetic activation as well as spasms. Then they call them positive Chapman's points.

Now show me water tight research study where they look at vulvovaginitis and correlation to vagina Chapman's point on the posterior thigh and I'll double take until then... its dribble

 

[JGimpel]

Would you guys clarify things for the European dude in the room:

Is osteopathy school = medical school + chiropractic + acupuncture = medical school + (largely) mumbo-jumbo?

Even if they're taught a bit mumbo-jumbo at DO school, they largely follow the same curriculum as MD schools, no?

Chapman's points sound like BS.

Perfect.

A guy from another medical education system in another country managed to nail it in a few minutes. Says a lot.

 

[SLC]

It may be a myth, but I hear a stethoscope sometimes picks up things.

I think you meant to say "I hear through a stethoscope and sometimes pick up things" 😱