Are the classes easier or harder than you thought?

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This is a spin-off of another thread that I started but I was wondering from those currently in med school or those finished if you thought the first two years of classes were easier than you had expected or more difficult than expected?

I start school this August and am just getting anxious I guess. 😱 Thanks.
 
I don't think any sane person would anticipate medical school.
 
Hmmm, not as difficult for a couple of reasons. 1)People hype it up to be absolutely horrible. It's not, it is definitely managable. I did a lot of stuff in between studying, including lots of wasted time on SDN, lots of beer, and two trips to Aspen. 2)The material is just conceptual cake (at least to me). In undergrad I worked with lasers and other cool stuff in a cross between inorganic chemistry and physics, and there were concepts that just required like 99% of my brain processor speed just to understand. In med school it's all real obvious, you just have to memorize a ton, and the difficulty of that depends on the person.
 
Easier than expected. Studying is studying. Of course I'm assuming that if one applies to med school in the first place, he ought to have at least a little interest in the sciences covered (although some will be liked better than others). And it's a lot of information, yeah, but medicine IS a LOT of information.

The best thing about the first two years at my school was that I could decide whether or not to attend class. I don't need some dude spoon-feeding me info that I can just look up in a book at my own leisure (or more appropriately, teaching me the same info in a way that totally confuses me and contradicts everything I've learned up to that point). Skipping lecture was great for stress reduction and I was able to get more than ample sleep for each day. This was ideal, seeing as how my college had attendance requirements for every class. So not having to be restricted by that is definitely what made my first two years of studying a breeze
 
Thanks guys. That is kind of what I've heard elsewhere, that the difficulty is mostly hype. Stinger, how did you skip lecture if your school had an attendance policy?
 
Different kind of hard. Lots of material, but nothing is complex. So far, it's better than I thought it would be..... but stil a pain in the ass.
 
dradams said:
Thanks guys. That is kind of what I've heard elsewhere, that the difficulty is mostly hype. Stinger, how did you skip lecture if your school had an attendance policy?

He meant that he had attendance requirements in college, not med school. That's why he loved not having to attend class his lecture years.
 
My experience,

Very Different in many great ways! I am a young and traditional medical student. I expected medical school to be very serious and very difficult. Guess what, it is a lot of work but really fun. You meet life long friends and you still get to go out drink/relax/etc when you are between exams.

What you make it to be is what it will be. Do not let medical school get in the way of your medical education is my best advice Ican give you. Never let yourself get stressed, we are all going to be doctors, just remember that. Expect to do more work than you ever thought possible and you will be fine. I think I got up to the point of studying over 80 hours for a biochemistry exam one week. You just get used to it. Treat it like a 9-5 job that goes from 9 am - midnight (with a break for the gym) and do nothing atleast one day a week and you will be very happy!
 
Oh one more thing. Go to class. You are only in medical school once. I missed a lot of classes and am annoyed at myself. Yes, some professors suck but you will miss the atmosphere if you sit in your room and study all day. Too cool for school = not cool 😉
 
callendm said:
Oh one more thing. Go to class. You are only in medical school once. I missed a lot of classes and am annoyed at myself. Yes, some professors suck but you will miss the atmosphere if you sit in your room and study all day. Too cool for school = not cool 😉

Are you truly this lame... 🙂 ..i am of the philosophy of allowing other medical students to do whatever they want...Is it any of your business if someone else should go to class and meet "life-long friends"?... :laugh:

(I am just messing with you... i truly admire your spirit)
 
callendm said:
Oh one more thing. Go to class. You are only in medical school once. I missed a lot of classes and am annoyed at myself. Yes, some professors suck but you will miss the atmosphere if you sit in your room and study all day. Too cool for school = not cool 😉

ahhhh... students are really the only consumers who want less for their money 👍

i'm approachin med school like undergrad: if the prof's can actually teach well then i'll go to class; if they stand up there w/ a laser pointer and just read their ppt slides then ima skippin 👍
 
_J_ said:
ahhhh... students are really the only consumers who want less for their money 👍

i'm approachin med school like undergrad: if the prof's can actually teach well then i'll go to class; if they stand up there w/ a laser pointer and just read their ppt slides then ima skippin 👍

Get use to the monotone laser pointing aka sleeping
 
med school is harder than i expected..... cuz my memory sucks!

actually, "harder" is a vague word, because the material isn't difficult. it's just my damn brain takes a massive dump the next day after I read something.
 
It's more difficult than I expected. Of course, I've been out of school for 10+ years and have a non-bio background. Even so, it's all about how perfect your memory is. If you can read something once and remember it perfectly for at least a month, you are set. We had a midterm where the notes were 300+ pages typed. I read them twice, but was not nearly able to remember it all. Some people can. Some people read it all once and they're good. There's probably about 5 of them in every class of 100+ people.
 
Great advice and opinions. Thanks everyone. These response make me feel a lot less anxious and a lot more excited about starting in 2 months actually. 😀
 
callendm said:
Oh one more thing. Go to class. You are only in medical school once. I missed a lot of classes and am annoyed at myself. Yes, some professors suck but you will miss the atmosphere if you sit in your room and study all day. Too cool for school = not cool 😉

I wildly and aggressively disagree. Never go to class unless attendance is absolutely mandatory or you have no pre-printed notes or note-taking service available. You are only in medical school once, that's exactly right... and when again are you going to have two years straight where you can sleep in almost every single day? Not until retirement, my friend. Never go to class. Never go to class. Never.
 
dtreese said:
I don't think any sane person would anticipate medical school.

uh oh.

Oh well, people have been telling me I'm a dork for years.... 😛
 
callendm said:
Too cool for school = not cool 😉
Too cool for school = lot's of free time. Most med students aren't that great to hang out with anyway.
 
gary5 said:
Of course, I've been out of school for 10+ years and have a non-bio background. Even so, it's all about how perfect your memory is. If you can read something once and remember it perfectly for at least a month, you are set.
Same for me (31 and an engineer). Anybody trying to get you to believe they just read once and remember perfectly for a month is a LIER & a GUNNER. You can go thru something once and retain a lot of it for a while, but not just by reading it. I read with paper/pencil/highlighter and do practice Q's. I see most of the material 2-3 times b/f the test and a few select things more than that. Most of the students I've met are going thru more times that that on top of req'd readings and not even honoring. Everyone's got it tough...... don't listen to the gunners. I'm sure there are a few lucky freaks out there who can do this, but not 5/100.
 
Easier than I expected. And as you get more experience, you need less study time to learn and memorize the same amount of material. Only 3 weeks left 😀
 
sacrament said:
I wildly and aggressively disagree. Never go to class unless attendance is absolutely mandatory or you have no pre-printed notes or note-taking service available. You are only in medical school once, that's exactly right... and when again are you going to have two years straight where you can sleep in almost every single day? Not until retirement, my friend. Never go to class. Never go to class. Never.
I think you hit a key point here when you mention note-taking service. Professors at my school give out notes but they intentionally leave out their most important points. There's also a note-taking service but it's not available during first year. Without this note-taking service, not attending classes means failing them.

And regarding the original question, I find med school to be tougher than I imagined. I know several non-Medicine students who I'm sure are "smarter" than most of my classmates and I've written a couple of Quantum Mechanics exams that were certainly more difficult than our med school exams (though none as long). But what sets my classmates apart is that they have very good study habits and seem to be efficient studiers. I think part of it is that they have a healthy, no-nonsense attitude towards studying. And unlike in undergrad, our exams don't get massively scaled up when they are difficult.
 
i agree with the people here who skip classes. I preview the class material at least a day before. the notes and textbook are available to preview. If I feel I understand the stuff, I skip the class.
We have about 4-6 hours of lecture per day. Can you imagine what you could do instead of listening to the teacher read the powerpoint slides...
that's 2 extra hours of sleep per day, plus 4 hours of extra time to memorize random crap.
it's time better spent, especially considering that there are only 2 professors whose lectures I think are worth listening to.
 
I completely agree with the skip class philosophy. At PCOM, every lecture is recorded on MP3, typed up by selected students in our class who get paid for it, and put into your note file usually within 48 hours (sometimes longer). This is something I never knew to ask about on med school interviews. Luckily, I ended up at a school with a scribe service (go PCOM!).

Price for scribe service: $300/school year
Price for sleeping 8 hrs/night x 2 years: PRICELESS!
 
To get honors by not going to class I studied all day (12 hours). I did not know what material to focus on and found myself memorizing everything. This was easy enough becuase I did not have really much of anything else to do with my time. I found that if I slept 7 hours a day...studied 12 hours....I still had 5 hours to do whatever I wanted. However, this was a lot of memorizing non-tested material and not exactly the best way to go about things.

To get honors by going to class I could go to class from 9-early afternoon and get all my studying done after dinner. I knew exactly what to study and was much more efficient with less time.

That being said, I skipped class so I could study in a different way. However, if you want to skip class to sleep in and relax than this is def. the way to go. Also, I really like being a part of my class and involved in everything. However, everyone isn't same so it probably doesn't bother others missing out on everything.
 
sacrament said:
I wildly and aggressively disagree. Never go to class unless attendance is absolutely mandatory or you have no pre-printed notes or note-taking service available. You are only in medical school once, that's exactly right... and when again are you going to have two years straight where you can sleep in almost every single day? Not until retirement, my friend. Never go to class. Never go to class. Never.

I can't agree with this post more... it's like I wrote it! I get a lot of crap from some of my fellow MS1s for my attendence, or lack thereof. But my life is really a lot better when I sleep till 930 or 10 everyday, study for 3-5 hours in the late morning and early afternoon, and have the rest of the day off. Of course around test time I get serious and do a lot more work per day.

Med school is not conceptually difficult, at least in the beginning. The only difficult thing is figuring out how you learn best and going with it. There's a massive amount of info and you really have to be efficient in order to not get overwhelmed. It was difficult for me in the beginning to skip class--I felt guilty. But since I started doing things this way I've been so much less stressed out, its totally worth it.
 
One thing that makes med school really difficult that no one has discussed so far...the personalities you may encounter. I attended a large public university prior to med school and was able to associate and dissociate from people around me at my own leisure. In med school, you are very much stuck with people you might not get along with, you are subject to being influenced from without and pick up good and bad habits from those around you without your realizing it. One thing that has troubled me most is there is a common pattern of false arrogance borne of insecurity among many classmates. Of course, all of this is closer to the real world than what you would encounter in a university setting where it is easier to pick and choose your friends and meet new people. You would think that people would be a little more comfortable with themselves having worked hard to get into medical school and having had their dreams come true with their admissions. However, I find with a lot of people med school is like high school all over again and I must admit I have been thoroughly dissapointed by the maturity (or rather lack thereof) that I expected to see in people who will one day have others' lives in their hands. The most popular activity for most people, getting trashed after the weekly exams, or playing poker. Med school is a place where there is so much opportunity for positivity, but alas, a large proportion of students at my school are the type of people who wanted to be a doctor for themselves, and whose actions don't display much in the way of care either for themselves or those around them.

The preclinical portion of the education is completely unintellectual. There is very little in the way of individual thinking and the reality is that med students who think they are very accomplished intellectually should not regard themselves as much more than students at a high end trade school.
 
Thanks, everyone. That actually eases much of the pre-med school anxiety that I have been having. It sounds like most people found it easier than they thought.

Keep posting, I'd love to hear more.
 
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