Are W-2 physicians being suckered?

[SSdoc33]

So military finances are a little funny -- essentially you pay state taxes to whereever you lived prior to joining, regardless of where you currently live. I am working towards changing my "official" residence to TX to avoid that, but it takes some time.

The private school costs are no joke. Our choices are to buy an overpriced house in the "best" school district(still not very good) or to spend a significant chunk on private school. Yikes, either way.

Get the nice house. Good neighborhood gets you more than just access to the better schools. Few years down the road you can always move to private schools.

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[Dr. Ice]

Can I ask you what you consider to be “bad property tax”

I pay 19k/year…how “bad” is yours?

 

[callmeanesthesia]

This is a great thread. I appreciate both viewpoints.

The answer is to increase rates on upper end capital gains and clamp down on billionaires borrowing against unrealized gains (somehow). No wealth tax.

Wouldn’t it be simpler to just remove or cap step-up basis? The whole reason they borrow is so their heirs can avoid capital gains via step-up basis. Trying to ban borrowing against unrealized gains would be tricky without also banning things like a HELOC.
And maybe we could get rid of the alternative minimum tax while we’re at it?

 

[Baron Samedi]

Can I ask you what you consider to be “bad property tax”

I pay 19k/year…how “bad” is yours?

It's about 2%/year of appraised value. Not the worst but hurts to go from a low tax state to one of the highest.

 

[hyperalgesia]

It's been discussed ad nauseum in this thread. Borrowing against unrealized gains.

Would preventing private parties from lending based on risk/reward benefit anyone?

Or is this just another social justice crusade against life's tragic unfairness - they have too much money?

How does preventing this type of loan benefit anyone?

 

[Baron Samedi]

Would preventing private parties from lending based on risk/reward benefit anyone?

Or is this just another social justice crusade against life's tragic unfairness - they have too much money?

How does preventing this type of loan benefit anyone?

It would force them to actualize their gains and pay taxes. The current system's entire basis is around avoiding taxes. This is extremely obvious and has been stated numerous times.

With that, enjoy your weekend.

 

[jsaul]

Can I ask you what you consider to be “bad property tax”

I pay 19k/year…how “bad” is yours?

60k in texas where I live it's close to 3percent . It hurts to write that check at the end of every year

 

[hyperalgesia]

60k in texas where I live it's close to 3percent . It hurts to write that check at the end of every year

I guess making up for the lack of state income tax...

 

[deleted131481]

The key word here is THEIR wealth. It doesn't have to trickle anywhere. The money that YOU earn, where does it trickle? That wealth is YOUR wealth, not some imaginary communal pot that some authority should reallocate.

The goal of our system is freedom, economic and otherwise. We want opportunities for all. Not equal outcomes.

The phrase "trickle down" implies that there are peasants waiting in the wings for the rain to fall. That's just not how it works.

The ultra wealthy have benefited from our government and infrastructure much more than your Medicaid patients. The system of roads, security, military, banking system, etc - the ultra wealthy would not have gotten to where they are without these in place.

 

[deleted131481]

60k in texas where I live it's close to 3percent . It hurts to write that check at the end of every year

If I did my math right someone has a very nice house 🙂

 

[Dr. Ice]

If I did my math right someone has a very nice house 🙂

Yeah that’s like a rappers house dude

 

[SSdoc33]

Can I ask you what you consider to be “bad property tax”

I pay 19k/year…how “bad” is yours?

total #isn't as important as the percentage.

I'm a little less than 2%/year

 

[NITRAS]

If I did my math right someone has a very nice house 🙂

Someone needs a few cows and an ag exception. . . Mine is close to 3% but I don’t live in nearly as expensive a house. That is the nice thing about Texas, you can limit your taxes by where you live.

I think this whole scheme of not paying taxes by borrowing money is hilarious. Most things I have borrowed on expect payments. How do you pay for payments without income? Or cashing out investments?

I don’t consider myself wealthy, but I’ll get there. I did a lot of rollovers, paid 6 figures in taxes this year, and probably only paid 15% of my net worth in taxes (excluding consumption taxes, sales tax, gas tax which would probably be another 2-4%)

Taxing unrealized gains is really tricky for many reasons.

 

[hyperalgesia]

It would force them to actualize their gains and pay taxes. The current system's entire basis is around avoiding taxes. This is extremely obvious and has been stated numerous times.

With that, enjoy your weekend.

Would you like to prevent all loans based on unrealized net worth, or just for certain amounts? For example, can someone still get a home equity loan?

I'll just say that I think the idea is ludicrous and typical of liberal assumptions and overreach. Aside from the difficulty with IRS enforcement, this rule would not force investors to pay taxes.

To take a real world example, if you prevent Elon Musk from borrowing 54 billion to finance his purchase of Twitter, he's not going to sell 60 billion of Tesla stock, pay taxes on it, and then pay cash for the purchase. He, and others, simply won't invest as much. The Twitter deal would not be on the table, it's that simple. And that would be a shame imo.

Unrealized is unrealized and this kind of wealth should not offend anyone. It's like you're offended by even potential success - someone COULD get very rich and that's unacceptable...

 

[Pain Applicant1]

The majority of these 57% make so little income that they have no expendable income for healthy food or other necessities of healthful living. This in turn leads to higher Medicare and Medicaid expenditures due to poor health and mostly using ER for their primary care.

I never understood this argument and would be interested in hearing and learning more about your perspective.

I often hear that a healthy lifestyle is expensive and those poor people can only afford fast food, sugary snacks, etc. To me, this makes zero sense and seems very far from reality.

It's pretty dirt cheap to eat healthily and it's definitely far less expensive than eating at Mcdonald's which can easily run over 10 bucks a meal per person.

All you have to do is eat low on the food processing scale. Have you checked out what a massive bag of whole wheat pasta, brown rice, carrots, beets, beans, lentils, etc costs? Even fruit, when in season, can be pretty cheap. High protein yogurt with no sugar is only a few cents per meal when bought at Walmart, Aldi, or Lidl. Even big bags of chicken are not that expensive when broken down per meal. Eggs are dirt cheap, even if you choose to only eat the egg whites. You can literally end up feeding a person for pennies on the dollar. Plus, for those very low on the SES scale, food stamps cover these things.

People eat bad food because they want to. They eat it because it tastes good and they're succumbing to their urges of instant gratification. They either lack self-discipline or just don't care. Many of these same people have no issues finding money to spend on cigarettes and alcohol, or a nice set of rims.

You also don't need expendable income to exercise. Running, push-ups, pull-ups, sit-ups and heavy lifting are all free. As a kid, I boxed at the 110th Police Athletic League in Queens which was free. You have to want to do these things.

Before you google a few websites links for me to read and some uppity academic studies keep in mind that I live, shop, and work side by side with this class of people so I see how these things play out firsthand. I also spend a lot of time dealing with section 8 people.

I'm interested in your perspective because it often seems people try to alleviate an individual's own personal responsibility and blame external factors for their issues. I see this as doing far more harm than good all the way around. What say you?

 

[callmeanesthesia]

I never understood this argument and would be interested in hearing and learning more about your perspective.

I often hear that a healthy lifestyle is expensive and those poor people can only afford fast food, sugary snacks, etc. To me, this makes zero sense and seems very far from reality.

It's pretty dirt cheap to eat healthily and it's definitely far less expensive than eating at Mcdonald's which can easily run over 10 bucks a meal per person.

All you have to do is eat low on the food processing scale. Have you checked out what a massive bag of whole wheat pasta, brown rice, carrots, beets, beans, lentils, etc costs? Even fruit, when in season, can be pretty cheap. High protein yogurt with no sugar is only a few cents per meal when bought at Walmart, Aldi, or Lidl. Even big bags of chicken are not that expensive when broken down per meal. Eggs are dirt cheap, even if you choose to only eat the egg whites. You can literally end up feeding a person for pennies on the dollar. Plus, for those very low on the SES scale, food stamps cover these things.

People eat bad food because they want to. They eat it because it tastes good and they're succumbing to their urges of instant gratification. They either lack self-discipline or just don't care. Many of these same people have no issues finding money to spend on cigarettes and alcohol, or a nice set of rims.

You also don't need expendable income to exercise. Running, push-ups, pull-ups, sit-ups and heavy lifting are all free. As a kid, I boxed at the 110th Police Athletic League in Queens which was free. You have to want to do these things.

Before you google a few websites links for me to read and some uppity academic studies keep in mind that I live, shop, and work side by side with this class of people so I see how these things play out firsthand. I also spend a lot of time dealing with section 8 people.

I'm interested in your perspective because it often seems people try to alleviate an individual's own personal responsibility and blame external factors for their issues. I see this as doing far more harm than good all the way around. What say you?

Not saying it’s impossible to eat healthy for cheap but much harder. Whole wheat pasta, lentils, and brown rice are always more expensive than the big bags of white rice, plain pasta, or potatoes. (I’m not too knowledgeable on the subject but I think this is influenced by agricultural subsidies designed to ensure the US is less reliant on foreign agriculture). Fresh vegetables are expensive, especially the green leafy ones you need to eat healthy. Selection is often pretty sad in inner city grocery stores. Some people have nothing but a bodega to shop from, so forget about anything fresh there.
Sure, there are many poor people who are just lazy and want to work the bare minimum while also collecting a disability check. There are also a lot who, due to rising costs of rent, food, and medical care, are working 2-3 jobs just to avoid becoming homeless. Many of the big employers are notorious for manipulating work schedules to keep employees just on the edge of part time. They don’t have time to cook, hence the fast food.

Speaking of which, when we talk about ways the rich receive more benefit than the poor, let’s talk about Medicaid and Food stamps. From a microeconomic perspective, what are those really but subsidies for the wages of underpaying companies like Wal-mart and fast food? So if we’re going to have them, why shouldn’t the people who are really getting the benefit pay for them?

 

[Pain Applicant1]

Not saying it’s impossible to eat healthy for cheap but much harder. Whole wheat pasta, lentils, and brown rice are always more expensive than the big bags of white rice, plain pasta, or potatoes. (I’m not too knowledgeable on the subject but I think this is influenced by agricultural subsidies designed to ensure the US is less reliant on foreign agriculture). Fresh vegetables are expensive, especially the green leafy ones you need to eat healthy. Selection is often pretty sad in inner city grocery stores. Some people have nothing but a bodega to shop from, so forget about anything fresh there.
Sure, there are many poor people who are just lazy and want to work the bare minimum while also collecting a disability check. There are also a lot who, due to rising costs of rent, food, and medical care, are working 2-3 jobs just to avoid becoming homeless. Many of the big employers are notorious for manipulating work schedules to keep employees just on the edge of part time. They don’t have time to cook, hence the fast food.

Speaking of which, when we talk about ways the rich receive more benefit than the poor, let’s talk about Medicaid and Food stamps. From a microeconomic perspective, what are those really but subsidies for the wages of underpaying companies like Wal-mart and fast food? So if we’re going to have them, why shouldn’t the people who are really getting the benefit pay for them?

Sorry but cannot agree with you, my friend, as you're literally talking about pennies. Walmart sells long-grain brown rice, 50 servings for $3.42 which is maybe 6 cents per serving. White rice, while I didn't check, maybe 5.5 cents per serving so it's a moot point. $1 for 4 servings of frozen spinach is 25 cents each. Brown rice and spinach make a pretty nice meal in and of itself for 31 cents. Fry it up in a bit of oil, add a pinch of salt and some garlic, mmm. Fresh spinach or lettuce may run $1.50 a bunch or so which offers several servings. I don't see selection as being bad and I shop in these places. If there is a selection issue, I imagine it's due to having little demand for these products. Potatoes are easy to grow so they only cost about $3-4 for 5 pounds, which will last a loooong time, even for a family of 4 or 5. Potatoes have helped many truly poor people around the world stave off starvation. Don't forget that food stamps cover these things if people choose to use them on these.

Shall we keep doing the home shopping network here?

I've lived in (still do) plenty of working-class and poor neighborhoods. With a bit of effort, there is no lack of markets in poor urban areas. People shop at bodegas because it's quick and easy but with a little effort they can hit up a Ctown, sav-a-lot, aldi, etc. There is a lack of everything in rural areas but it's not usually these folks who are doing the complaining and blaming of others about their way and CHOICE of life. Also, left-wing folks who promulgate these views about food don't usually care about the poor rural peeps for some reason.

No conspiracy on the white vs whole grain stuff. It simply stores longer so it's cheaper. I used to be obsessed with eating healthy and working out, probably too much so, so I've read a lot on this stuff although I'm no expert.

 

[MitchLevi]

Quit eating from 8PM to 12PM.

Gets a lot cheaper after that...

 

[BobLoblaw78]

The majority of these 57% make so little income that they have no expendable income for healthy food or other necessities of healthful living. This in turn leads to higher Medicare and Medicaid expenditures due to poor health and mostly using ER for their primary care..

I think you are unaware if you really think that the reason the majority of 57% is unhealthy is bc they can't afford fruits and vegetables. That would also imply this group is greatly concerned with health but can't afford fruits and vegetables.... or cigarettes, beer, soda pop, etc.

People make bad choices. Or sometimes you just want Doritos.

Except the ultra rich who own >50% of wealth in the US are not paying their fair share of taxes. Their wealth gain is not through income, so the majority of "income" is not taxed.

It is my understanding that you have to pay taxes on any gain at some point. If there is a loophole, then that is something that is remedied by eliminating loop holes. Like a flat tax that doesn't allow loop holes. I really hate the idea of punishing people that save and invest money.

 

[SSdoc33]

I think you are unaware if you really think that the reason the majority of 57% is unhealthy is bc they can't afford fruits and vegetables. That would also imply this group is greatly concerned with health but can't afford fruits and vegetables.... or cigarettes, beer, soda pop, etc.

People make bad choices. Or sometimes you just want Doritos.

It is my understanding that you have to pay taxes on any gain at some point. If there is a loophole, then that is something that is remedied by eliminating loop holes. Like a flat tax that doesn't allow loop holes. I really hate the idea of punishing people that save and invest money.

you are missing the point. we CANT close the loopholes. if we cant even get the momentum for minimal tax changes, a flat tax is barely even worth discussing. also, the billionaires arent really saving actual dollars. they are not selling/realizing their gains. stocks are worth nothing unless they are sold

healthy food DOES cost more than junk, and it is harder to find. especially fresh fruits and vegetables. some apples are 2 bucks apiece right now. the difference in bulk rice, beans, frozen vegetables, etc is relatively minimal. but honestly, most of the problem is lifestyle choices, rather than the price of healthy food.

 

[Doctodd]

any other liberals screaming about Disney paying their fair share? Cant have it both ways.

 

[buddababa]

People make bad choices. Or sometimes you just want Doritos.

This. I love doritos. Like I could eat it every day multiple times a day forever. Which I currently do.

 

[Pain Applicant1]

healthy food DOES cost more than junk, and it is harder to find. especially fresh fruits and vegetables. some apples are 2 bucks apiece right now. the difference in bulk rice, beans, frozen vegetables, etc is relatively minimal. but honestly, most of the problem is lifestyle choices, rather than the price of healthy food.

Of course, you don't need to buy that particular cultivar of apple to eat an apple, but Honeycrisps BTW, are well worth it. You are right that it's lifestyle choices. If anyone, that would be anyone, in this country wants to eat and be healthy, they can. Excuses never help anyone do anything.

I'm naive and foolish and I don't want to pay taxes any more than anyone else does. I see lots of government waste and abuse of the system... but I'm still very happy to pay my share of taxes to help support my government and country. I love living in America and our tax rates are lower than those on the other side of the pond.

Any boxing aficionados btw? My boxing gym in Flushing did produce a famous boxer who made it pretty far, Kevin Kelley, aka Flushing Flash. I fought with him but not against him. I'm not that foolish.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

It's been discussed ad nauseum in this thread. Borrowing against unrealized gains.

I can borrow from my Vanguard retirement account but I have six months to put it back in. My understanding is this proposal is going to destroy everybody’s retirement accounts. Why would anybody put money into the market/retirement account if the gains might be taxed immediately? Of course I understand this is just a proposal and nothing is set in stone. but that’s what it sounds like.

I’m no expert, but you and AOC and socialist democrats say the same things. Funny how they are whining about Florida threatening to take away tax exemptions from Disney.

I have no idea what AOC says or what proposal you're speaking of, but I simply want to ban borrowing against unrealized gains for the ultrawealthy. I've also mentioned in this thread that I'm against raising capital gains taxes to income levels as that disincentives the middle class from participating in the market. Not sure what other beliefs you are projecting on me. I also have no idea what's going on with Disney but screw Disney.

I'd strongly recommend against withdrawing from your retirement accounts, by the way. You also aren't "borrowing", you are withdrawing and redepositing.

It would force them to actualize their gains and pay taxes. The current system's entire basis is around avoiding taxes. This is extremely obvious and has been stated numerous times.

With that, enjoy your weekend.

I don't fully understand the details for/against borrowing against unrealized gains. Part of me thinks that these ultrarich probably don't have too hard of a time getting low interest loans. If someone wants to loan them money and use whatever as collateral, then let them. I believe you probably have a point and there is some loopholes that I am not aware of with unrealized gains. That is why a system that is fair, without exemptions/loopholes starts to make more sense to me. Poor people aren't going to seek out loopholes, but rich will.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

you are missing the point. we CANT close the loopholes. if we cant even get the momentum for minimal tax changes, a flat tax is barely even worth discussing. also, the billionaires arent really saving actual dollars. they are not selling/realizing their gains. stocks are worth nothing unless they are sold

healthy food DOES cost more than junk, and it is harder to find. especially fresh fruits and vegetables. some apples are 2 bucks apiece right now. the difference in bulk rice, beans, frozen vegetables, etc is relatively minimal. but honestly, most of the problem is lifestyle choices, rather than the price of healthy food.

If we can't do something then the government has grown too powerful. I will take my chances against the ultrarich who are hoarding their wealth by not paying unrealized gains. I don't like my chances against a government that is too powerful.

I appreciate your candor about lifestyle choices. I would rather disagree about reasons and solutions any day then go on about my day. When someone is gaslighting about the reasons for poor outcomes, it makes my logical brain haywire.

 

[Ducttape]

I never understood this argument and would be interested in hearing and learning more about your perspective.

I often hear that a healthy lifestyle is expensive and those poor people can only afford fast food, sugary snacks, etc. To me, this makes zero sense and seems very far from reality.

It's pretty dirt cheap to eat healthily and it's definitely far less expensive than eating at Mcdonald's which can easily run over 10 bucks a meal per person.

All you have to do is eat low on the food processing scale. Have you checked out what a massive bag of whole wheat pasta, brown rice, carrots, beets, beans, lentils, etc costs? Even fruit, when in season, can be pretty cheap. High protein yogurt with no sugar is only a few cents per meal when bought at Walmart, Aldi, or Lidl. Even big bags of chicken are not that expensive when broken down per meal. Eggs are dirt cheap, even if you choose to only eat the egg whites. You can literally end up feeding a person for pennies on the dollar. Plus, for those very low on the SES scale, food stamps cover these things.

People eat bad food because they want to. They eat it because it tastes good and they're succumbing to their urges of instant gratification. They either lack self-discipline or just don't care. Many of these same people have no issues finding money to spend on cigarettes and alcohol, or a nice set of rims.

You also don't need expendable income to exercise. Running, push-ups, pull-ups, sit-ups and heavy lifting are all free. As a kid, I boxed at the 110th Police Athletic League in Queens which was free. You have to want to do these things.

Before you google a few websites links for me to read and some uppity academic studies keep in mind that I live, shop, and work side by side with this class of people so I see how these things play out firsthand. I also spend a lot of time dealing with section 8 people.

I'm interested in your perspective because it often seems people try to alleviate an individual's own personal responsibility and blame external factors for their issues. I see this as doing far more harm than good all the way around. What say you?

there are multiple different reasons why those who are poor eat more poorly.

only part of that has to do with food deserts and the lack of available healthy choices, while that can be a marked factor.

you do hit on another key point, but i dont think you take the concept far enough.

unhealthy choices are produced in a manner to provide greater gratification, even euphoria, than healthy food. unhealthy choices include lots of unhealthy fats and high fructose corn syrup. in addition, this need for satisfaction plays in to the decision by the poor in feeding their children these unhealthy snacks. and these children have no disillusion that they will ever leave their impoverished circumstances, leading to even greater desire for instant gratification - through poor eating or drugs.

Op-Ed: Why do poor Americans eat so unhealthfully? Because junk food is the only indulgence they can afford

The verdict is in: Food deserts don’t drive nutritional disparities in the United States the way we thought.

www.latimes.com

Nutritional inequality in the U.S. has more to do with people’s socioeconomic status than their geographic location. Living in poverty or affluence affects more than our access to healthy food: It shapes the very meanings we attach to food.

Tackling nutritional inequality will require more than putting supermarkets in low-income neighborhoods. These interventions won’t change what food means to the poor families I met.

But lifting them out of poverty could. If low-income parents had the resources to consistently meet their kids’ desires, maybe a bag of Doritos would be just a bag of Doritos, rather than a uniquely potent symbol of parental love and care.

 

[Ducttape]

If we can't do something then the government has grown too powerful. I will take my chances against the ultrarich who are hoarding their wealth by not paying unrealized gains. I don't like my chances against a government that is too powerful.

I appreciate your candor about lifestyle choices. I would rather disagree about reasons and solutions any day then go on about my day. When someone is gaslighting about the reasons for poor outcomes, it makes my logical brain haywire.

you already have put your chances in the ultrarich. they are the ones who have outsized influence on the government. some will argue that they currently control the government.

in fact, most congresspeople are millionaires, especially in the Senate.

Majority of lawmakers in 116th Congress are millionaires

More than half of those in Congress are millionaires, data from lawmakers’ most recent personal financial disclosures shows.

www.opensecrets.org

republicans and democrats....

any other liberals screaming about Disney paying their fair share? Cant have it both ways.

disney was paying their fair share - by paying for all of their own utilities and community services - fire, police, etc. these costs will be passed on to the surrounding counties.

this law is antithetical to the conservative - ie Reagan - republican stance of supporting corporations.

 

[Ronin1]

disney was paying their fair share - by paying for all of their own utilities and community services - fire, police, etc. these costs will be passed on to the surrounding counties.

I suspect that Disneys increased tax burden will offset these costs

 

[BobLoblaw78]

you already have put your chances in the ultrarich. they are the ones who have outsized influence on the government. some will argue that they currently control the government.

I agree on both. First off, my chances played out pretty well by making good choices. This makes me skeptical against the position that people are stuck in the class they were born in. Second, I don't think we fix the outsized influence they have on government by giving government more power. I am all for limiting power, lobbying and politics as a career choice.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

I suspect that Disneys increased tax burden will offset these costs

There is a lot of moving parts when considering this. Whether Disney pays more or not, I believe they would rather keep the status quo and will be worse off for the change.

 

[Pain Applicant1]

there are multiple different reasons why those who are poor eat more poorly.

only part of that has to do with food deserts and the lack of available healthy choices, while that can be a marked factor.

you do hit on another key point, but i dont think you take the concept far enough.

unhealthy choices are produced in a manner to provide greater gratification, even euphoria, than healthy food. unhealthy choices include lots of unhealthy fats and high fructose corn syrup. in addition, this need for satisfaction plays in to the decision by the poor in feeding their children these unhealthy snacks. and these children have no disillusion that they will ever leave their impoverished circumstances, leading to even greater desire for instant gratification - through poor eating or drugs.

Op-Ed: Why do poor Americans eat so unhealthfully? Because junk food is the only indulgence they can afford

The verdict is in: Food deserts don’t drive nutritional disparities in the United States the way we thought.

www.latimes.com

Food, especially sugar, is the worst drug out there. There are more food addicts than any other type of addiction and it contributes to more morbidity and mortality than heroin or anything else. Few notice this and even fewer talk about it.

Capitalism helped get the price of a calorie down to a fraction of a cent. I think a 900-calorie burrito at Taco Bell costs about $2. Then you hire very knowledgable and skilled marketers to constantly bombard us with advertisements and it's a no-win match against obesity.......... and IMO there's nothing anyone can do to change this.

 

[SSdoc33]

really, ron? do you really want to mess with disney?

seems like an interesting choice because disney employs basically everyone in central florida

 

[Doctodd]

disney was paying their fair share - by paying for all of their own utilities and community services - fire, police, etc. these costs will be passed on to the surrounding counties.

this law is antithetical to the conservative - ie Reagan - republican stance of supporting corporations.

First off it’s ironic that they negotiated this in the 60s due to their displeasure with the govt in Anaheim, which is something conservatives probably agree with.

Secondly we don’t know what their fair share is or was. Disney most likely benefited from the tax breaks and autonomy.

Lastly this all came about because Disney caved to the woke LGBTQ liberals. Disney kept quiet until the very end. The woke liberals mischaracterized and inaccurately decided to rename the bill the “don’t say gay” bill even though the bill’s real name is the “parental rights in education” bill. The entire situation was politicized by the woke left when they should have stayed out of parental rights. Disney has damaged their brand and shareholders have suffered because Disney executives acted stupidly. Disney needs new management.

CNN —
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Monday signed legislation banning certain instruction about sexual orientation and gender identity in the classroom, approving the controversial measurethat opponents have dubbed the “Don’t Say Gay” law.

HB 1557, titled the “Parental Rights in Education

 

[Pain Applicant1]

. Disney has damaged their brand and shareholders have suffered

Agree here. I've been watching DIS closely for the past couple of months and I'm loving the new and new and new 52-week lows. I'm likely going to start selling options on this very soon, likely in the upcoming months. IMO, Disney is a safe bet overall as the world loves the brand. This is a blip.

 

[SeniorWrangler]

The USA has been moving towards a Brazil-shaped economy (very rich upper class, big lower class, not much in between) for a long time. Tweaks of the tax system aren’t going to change that.

 

[Gauss]

The USA has been moving towards a Brazil-shaped economy (very rich upper class, big lower class, not much in between) for a long time. Tweaks of the tax system aren’t going to change that.

the metaverse fixes this

 

[hyperalgesia]

The USA has been moving towards a Brazil-shaped economy (very rich upper class, big lower class, not much in between) for a long time. Tweaks of the tax system aren’t going to change that.

What "class" do you consider us to be in? Also, who cares?

 

[SeniorWrangler]

What "class" do you consider us to be in? Also, who cares?

Doctors are mostly in the upper middle class, which means less every day.

And you don’t have to care about America, nobody said you did. It’s a free country.

Edit: sorry, maybe too sarcastic.

I’ll try again: in the 1950’s the middle class owned half the nation’s wealth. Now it’s down to 17% of the nations wealth and still dropping. That’s what I’m talking about and no tax reform is going to fix it.

 

[hyperalgesia]

Virtue signaling is out of hand these days lol

 

[Baron Samedi]

Virtue signaling is out of hand these days lol

Complaining about virtue signaling is a form of virtue signaling.

 

[ateria radicularis magna]

What if you only complain about virtue signaling while in the metaverse?

 

[SSdoc33]

Musk just "bought" twitter via financing off of Tesla. none of these gains were ever realized

Musk assembled $46.5 billion to fund his Twitter takeover, with his own assets backing two-thirds of that amount. Musk's portion includes a giant $12.5 billion margin loan secured by his equity stake in Tesla Inc.

Twitter Partners With eToro To Offer Stock, Crypto Trading

Twitter has announced a partnership with crypto exchange eToro to let its users trade stocks, cryptocurrencies and other assets on the social network’s platform. The deal comes hard on the heels of Twitter CEO Elon Musk merging Twitter into a shell company named X Corp., which he says he would li

www.forbes.com

 

[Gauss]

What if you only complain about virtue signaling while in the metaverse?

you should nft this meme

 

[hyperalgesia]

Musk just "bought" twitter via financing off of Tesla. none of these gains were ever realized

Musk assembled $46.5 billion to fund his Twitter takeover, with his own assets backing two-thirds of that amount. Musk's portion includes a giant $12.5 billion margin loan secured by his equity stake in Tesla Inc.

Twitter Partners With eToro To Offer Stock, Crypto Trading

Twitter has announced a partnership with crypto exchange eToro to let its users trade stocks, cryptocurrencies and other assets on the social network’s platform. The deal comes hard on the heels of Twitter CEO Elon Musk merging Twitter into a shell company named X Corp., which he says he would li

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Great! I look forward to seeing the changes he makes. Hopefully Twitter will stop acting on behalf of woke political activism and cancel culture. I like Musk's ideas about a transparent algorithm and "time outs" rather than bans.

Only Musk could pull this off. No one else has a network of satellites and a rocket company lol. Only the federal govt could shut him down.

 

[clubdeac]

I never understood this argument and would be interested in hearing and learning more about your perspective.

I often hear that a healthy lifestyle is expensive and those poor people can only afford fast food, sugary snacks, etc. To me, this makes zero sense and seems very far from reality.

It's pretty dirt cheap to eat healthily and it's definitely far less expensive than eating at Mcdonald's which can easily run over 10 bucks a meal per person.

All you have to do is eat low on the food processing scale. Have you checked out what a massive bag of whole wheat pasta, brown rice, carrots, beets, beans, lentils, etc costs? Even fruit, when in season, can be pretty cheap. High protein yogurt with no sugar is only a few cents per meal when bought at Walmart, Aldi, or Lidl. Even big bags of chicken are not that expensive when broken down per meal. Eggs are dirt cheap, even if you choose to only eat the egg whites. You can literally end up feeding a person for pennies on the dollar. Plus, for those very low on the SES scale, food stamps cover these things.

People eat bad food because they want to. They eat it because it tastes good and they're succumbing to their urges of instant gratification. They either lack self-discipline or just don't care. Many of these same people have no issues finding money to spend on cigarettes and alcohol, or a nice set of rims.

You also don't need expendable income to exercise. Running, push-ups, pull-ups, sit-ups and heavy lifting are all free. As a kid, I boxed at the 110th Police Athletic League in Queens which was free. You have to want to do these things.

Before you google a few websites links for me to read and some uppity academic studies keep in mind that I live, shop, and work side by side with this class of people so I see how these things play out firsthand. I also spend a lot of time dealing with section 8 people.

I'm interested in your perspective because it often seems people try to alleviate an individual's own personal responsibility and blame external factors for their issues. I see this as doing far more harm than good all the way around. What say you?

I wouldn't bother hearing his perspective. this is the same doc who lives in the fantasy world where cardiovascular disease is predominantly a genetic condition and not due to lifestyle factors

 

[clubdeac]

this is hilarious, ya don't say?.... been there done that

 

[clubdeac]

there are multiple different reasons why those who are poor eat more poorly.

only part of that has to do with food deserts and the lack of available healthy choices, while that can be a marked factor.

you do hit on another key point, but i dont think you take the concept far enough.

unhealthy choices are produced in a manner to provide greater gratification, even euphoria, than healthy food. unhealthy choices include lots of unhealthy fats and high fructose corn syrup. in addition, this need for satisfaction plays in to the decision by the poor in feeding their children these unhealthy snacks. and these children have no disillusion that they will ever leave their impoverished circumstances, leading to even greater desire for instant gratification - through poor eating or drugs.

Op-Ed: Why do poor Americans eat so unhealthfully? Because junk food is the only indulgence they can afford

The verdict is in: Food deserts don’t drive nutritional disparities in the United States the way we thought.

www.latimes.com

And it’s only getting worse unfortunately

Biden must change course to preempt food shortage - Washington Examiner

Opinion Biden must change course to preempt food shortage By Kelly Loeffler April 25, 2022 12:00 AM Twitter LinkedIn Facebook Email Print Opinion Biden must change course to preempt food shortage By Kelly Loeffler April 25, 2022 12:00 AM Twitter LinkedIn Facebook Email Print In America, the...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[Doctodd]

I wouldn't bother hearing his perspective. this is the same doc who lives in the fantasy world where cardiovascular disease is predominantly a genetic condition and not due to lifestyle factors

is Musk using the same scheme to avoid taxes, or is he just taking out a line of credit using TESLA as collateral? Like a HELOC loan.

 

[Pain Applicant1]

I wouldn't bother hearing his perspective. this is the same doc who lives in the fantasy world where cardiovascular disease is predominantly a genetic condition and not due to lifestyle factors

It seems to be a recurring theme but I'm really glad he posts. I wish more people out there in lurker's land would post as I prefer a variety of viewpoints. I'd much rather read different points of view that challenge me as echo chambers tend to be boring.

 

[SSdoc33]

if elon musk is the savior, then we are all really f$cked

Twitter still lives via ad revenue, and advertisers won't sit idly by while MTG talks about jewish laser beams or DJT tells us how Russia is the best thing since sliced bread.

to those on this board who i am "ignoring" -- maybe click on the provided link to answer your question