Argosy PSYD Interview

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haha seriously though- anyone been to an interview?
 
thanks guys but can i get some input from people who have actually gone to an interview?
 
Probably not, as I really don't think we have any regular posters that attend there.

As you can tell, most of us were surprised that they do an interview at all. That should tell you all you need to know about the quality/reputation of the program.

Out of curiosity, what are the match stats and overall outcome data for the campus you are applying to?
 
I might be confusing Argosy with another school, but if you do a search of the forums, you might be able to find a post or two in other threads from applicants who interviewed with Argosy. I seem to remember them not getting a particulary good "vibe," but again, I might be confusing it with a different school; and beyond that, it could vary from campus to campus.
 
It's a degree mill. I'm sure you can say whatever you want at that interview and as long as you agree to pay them, they will admit you.
 
Yeah if you have minimal qualifications (and you could post on WAMC thread) you will get admitted to Argosy, so being concerned about what interview questions they ask is really unnecessary.
 
Wow this was a harsh set of responses. Now, Argosy does have a poor reputation on the whole, and it is worth noting. But we can't even actually answer the question? Are we that rude? 🙄

I would imagine that the questions you will get on interviews will be very similar to ones that you would get at other places. I recommend a search for "interview questions" or something like that which should give you plenty of threads to peruse. Questions about what types of clinical work you are interested in, populations, your academic background, etc...all come to mind. Probably wouldn't worry about research questions so much.
 
nst231 said:
Has anyone had an interview here? any ideas on what questions will be asked? Thanks!🙂
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Don't do it. If you feel you must get a PsyD at a professional school that will put you in indentured debt servitude for the rest of your life, at least do it at a school that doesn't suck so unbelievably hard. There's my advice for you. Aside from that I would have serious doubts that it matters how you handle yourself in an interview with them.
 
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Pragma said:
Wow this was a harsh set of responses. Now, Argosy does have a poor reputation on the whole, and it is worth noting. But we can't even actually answer the question? Are we that rude? 🙄
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I get what you're saying, but what's rude about being honest? The best advice is to not bother with Argosy schools at all - there's plenty of professional schools that will charge comparable amounts to the exorbitant sums Argosy does that get better outcomes.

If this person interviews badly and by some chance actually doesn't get accepted at an Argosy school (I agree, not likely from what I understand) I think it would be a great favor. If this person is talented and intelligent and hardworking, turning his / her energies elsewhere is probably very good advice.

I don't mean the OP any ill will, and plenty of very intelligent, hardworking, ambitious people make bad choices (like going to an Argosy school), so it doesn't say anything bad about this person that they are considering this route. But it doesn't pay to just hem and haw about giving helpful advice, I would think.

Anyways, I am sympathetic about not coming across as rude, so don't think I'm not.... I just don't want someone to make a mistake when they don't have to.
 
JeyRo said:
Anyways, I am sympathetic about not coming across as rude, so don't think I'm not.... I just don't want someone to make a mistake when they don't have to.
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Yeah I guess it is just a general observation. I have only been posting on here since late last year, but whenever new people come on with naive questions there are almost always people saying "There was a thread about this already, idiot" (okay, maybe not idiot, but comes across as unwelcoming, and some people might not). I don't think it is a problem to redirect people to another thread, but sometimes you can almost see the irritation.

Meanwhile, you'll see posters that have been around for a long time post really stupid questions that irritate people, such as asking for people to find them references for their own academic work. In fact, I recall a regular poster here ridiculing a new poster about an obvious homework question a couple of months back, and then turning around asking for people to look up statistics for them for a publication that they were working on.

Most people are polite, but we certainly observe irritability in this forum plenty.

Edit: I also think answering the actual question is generally polite.
 
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While the intentions of the information may be good, the delivery is astounding. As a profession, I hope that we could be more resourceful and flexible in providing feedback to individuals interested in doctoral programs. Based on some of these Reponses, I am seeing some real potential for correctional psychologist working in super max. prisons ( shot first and ask questions later) or the old school model of addictions treatment (tear them down)!

Surprised nobody caught the status of the poster.
 
Everyone,

Please play nice. Also, the same rules apply to old posters and new ones (and mods! 😉 ): If you think something is homework question or a violation of TOS, please feel free to report it to mod attention, regardless of the poster.

Thanks. 🙂
 
futureapppsy2 said:
Everyone,

Please play nice. Also, the same rules apply to old posters and new ones (and mods! 😉 ): If you think something is homework question or a violation of TOS, please feel free to report it to mod attention, regardless of the poster.

Thanks. 🙂
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I looked over everyone's responses and at least based on how I read them, they didn't seem mean - just blunt. Of course, communicating via textual media is way different than communicating face to face.

One could give advice to the OP about how to interview with the Argosy folks, but I would guess a lot of people think that even offering that kind of advice elevates Argosy's status in a way that's completely undeserved.
 
JeyRo said:
I looked over everyone's responses and at least based on how I read them, they didn't seem mean - just blunt. Of course, communicating via textual media is way different than communicating face to face.

One could give advice to the OP about how to interview with the Argosy folks, but I would guess a lot of people think that even offering that kind of advice elevates Argosy's status in a way that's completely undeserved.
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Well people are free to respond as bluntly, rudely, or politely as they want to. I just think it reflects poorly on posters here if the OP has to state their question three different times before someone even gives a partial response.

As for advice about Argosy, I think it is a terrible degree mill myself too. I could tell that to the OP and also still answer their question. But I suppose that's where people have to make the decision about if they are going to give a) solicited advice, b) unsolicited advice, c) both, d) none of the above, or e) argumentum ad nauseam 😀

We're psychologists (at least some of us are)...arguments and disagreements are cool but come on, let's give em' a few posts before we start completely ignoring what they are asking.
 
OP: While SDN is not wholy inclusive of the world of psychology, you will definitely not find much support (if any) on SDN for programs like Argosy. A search will reveal a plethora of threads about them, which I would strongly encourage you read so you can get a better idea of why programs like Argosy are not viewed in the best of light.

As for questions they will ask....I have no idea. I can however provide some recommendations you should ask them. Each one of these questions should be asked of every program a student is considering.

1. Where do students from your program work?
2. Can I have the contact information of current students and recent alumns so I can ask them about their experiences with the program?
3. What is your APA-acred. match rate this past year? Past 5 years? <-APA-acred. only...NOT CAPIC, APPIC, etc.*
4. What kind of funding do you provide? Does everyone get it? How much?
5. How long does it take students to graduate?

*Internship is a big hurdle. If you don't yet understands the in's and out's of it, I'd recommend taking some time to read some of the threads on here. If you attend the wrong kind of internship, it can severely limit your job options....for life.

Last but not least, if the program is not currently APA-acred and in good standing...AVOID IT. Period. No exceptions.
 
Thanks guys, I really appretiate you taking the time to give your input. I have read the threads on here that are bashing Argosy, and I assumed the bashing was comming from non Argosy students, which is why I thought I would post a thread specifically targeted to those individuals who either currently attend and could offer advice, or those who have gone to any of their admissions interviews. As for why I am applying and considering to attend this "diploma mill", I am literally desperate. I have attended interviews for other programs this year, and boy did I bomb each one. They were all day long group interviews and all the other students over powered me. I had litterally no chance to speak, I was always talked over and felt shunned out by the other students. The faculty obviously viewed me as being one who was shy and too nervous to speak up.
 
nst231 said:
Thanks guys, I really appretiate you taking the time to give your input. I have read the threads on here that are bashing Argosy, and I assumed the bashing was comming from non Argosy students, which is why I thought I would post a thread specifically targeted to those individuals who either currently attend and could offer advice, or those who have gone to any of their admissions interviews. As for why I am applying and considering to attend this "diploma mill", I am literally desperate. I have attended interviews for other programs this year, and boy did I bomb each one. They were all day long group interviews and all the other students over powered me. I had litterally no chance to speak, I was always talked over and felt shunned out by the other students. The faculty obviously viewed me as being one who was shy and too nervous to speak up.
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That kind of desperation makes you very vulnerable to exploitation.
 
I actually know someone who interviewed at an Argosy campus for a PsyD and did NOT get accepted!! S/he attributed it to what amounted to an ego competition between interviewee and one interviewer--both were in similar areas of clinical work already (interviewee was a masters-level clinician). Questions were related to that particular specialty, with that interviewer at least, and I think there was only one or two individual interviews. This was actually the interviewer's first choice, I told her she was probably lucky and definitely shouldn't fret...she ended up going to another FSPS.
 
nst231 said:
Thanks guys, I really appretiate you taking the time to give your input. I have read the threads on here that are bashing Argosy, and I assumed the bashing was comming from non Argosy students, which is why I thought I would post a thread specifically targeted to those individuals who either currently attend and could offer advice, or those who have gone to any of their admissions interviews. As for why I am applying and considering to attend this "diploma mill", I am literally desperate. I have attended interviews for other programs this year, and boy did I bomb each one. They were all day long group interviews and all the other students over powered me. I had litterally no chance to speak, I was always talked over and felt shunned out by the other students. The faculty obviously viewed me as being one who was shy and too nervous to speak up.
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Do you think it's a good idea to attend a program out of sheer desperation? Especially one that could potentially put you in a bad position before even starting your career? Consider that clinical psychology is a very competitive field, and getting into a program is just the beginning - you have to worry about matching, and then there's the job market, which is pretty crappy. I feel you about the stress of interviewing, it can be very scary. I advise you to seek help on improving your status as an applicant, work on interviewing techniques, etc. so that you can attend a program that is reputable. Really, Argosy has a terrible, terrible reputation. While I'm technically no longer part of the psychology field, the others in this thread have been there and done that - they know the field and when they tell you to avoid for-profits like Argosy, they know it's because these institutions do not serve the field nor the students who attend.
 
nst231 said:
Thanks guys, I really appretiate you taking the time to give your input. I have read the threads on here that are bashing Argosy, and I assumed the bashing was comming from non Argosy students, which is why I thought I would post a thread specifically targeted to those individuals who either currently attend and could offer advice, or those who have gone to any of their admissions interviews. As for why I am applying and considering to attend this "diploma mill", I am literally desperate. I have attended interviews for other programs this year, and boy did I bomb each one. They were all day long group interviews and all the other students over powered me. I had litterally no chance to speak, I was always talked over and felt shunned out by the other students. The faculty obviously viewed me as being one who was shy and too nervous to speak up.
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Yeah, I am not sure I would accept any offers because of feeling desperate. You may be better off in the long run by regrouping and trying again next year. If you got other interviews this year, you probably are a good candidate and need to brush up on those interview skills.

It never hurts to get more interview experience and you sound like you maybe need it. You could always go interview and then not accept an offer. Of course, that is a very personal decision. You have been warned about these programs.
 
Pragma said:
Yeah, I am not sure I would accept any offers because of feeling desperate. You may be better off in the long run by regrouping and trying again next year. If you got other interviews this year, you probably are a good candidate and need to brush up on those interview skills.

It never hurts to get more interview experience and you sound like you maybe need it. You could always go interview and then not accept an offer. Of course, that is a very personal decision. You have been warned about these programs.
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This. I just don't think $100k-plus debt in this field (or even anything above say $50-60k at most) is justifiable in this field. Going to Argosy or another FSPS out of desperation would be a huge mistake, IMO.
 
nst231 said:
Thanks guys, I really appretiate you taking the time to give your input. I have read the threads on here that are bashing Argosy, and I assumed the bashing was comming from non Argosy students, which is why I thought I would post a thread specifically targeted to those individuals who either currently attend and could offer advice, or those who have gone to any of their admissions interviews. As for why I am applying and considering to attend this "diploma mill", I am literally desperate. I have attended interviews for other programs this year, and boy did I bomb each one. They were all day long group interviews and all the other students over powered me. I had litterally no chance to speak, I was always talked over and felt shunned out by the other students. The faculty obviously viewed me as being one who was shy and too nervous to speak up.
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I'm sorry to hear you had bad experiences interviewing, I know this field can be very competitive. But I honestly think it's in your (anyone's) best interest to take a serious step back and evaluate all career options before just going to Argosy.

A lot of the "bashing" of Argosy has come from people who are near to exiting or exiting Argosy and are realizing how screwed they are. Beyond the snark many of us at more traditional programs (at least those of us in big cities) attend practica with Argosy students and hear firsthand the substantial downsides they are facing. I genuinely feel bad that they have so many regrets and such huge debt load and while a lot of us can be flip about it my hostility to programs like Argosy is rooted in the damage I've seen them cause to well meaning students, in addition to their negative contribution to the profession as a whole.

In the time it would take to go to Argosy you could become a psych physician's assistant or finish a MSW program. If you are considering a FSPS it tells me that the research part of this career is something you'd jettison anyway so please consider other related fields that would leave you in much better shape. Or read the threads of people who've gotten into clinical psych on their 2nd or 3rd round of apps and strengthen yourself in preparation for re-applying.
 
nst231 said:
Thanks guys, I really appretiate you taking the time to give your input. I have read the threads on here that are bashing Argosy, and I assumed the bashing was comming from non Argosy students, which is why I thought I would post a thread specifically targeted to those individuals who either currently attend and could offer advice, or those who have gone to any of their admissions interviews. As for why I am applying and considering to attend this "diploma mill", I am literally desperate. I have attended interviews for other programs this year, and boy did I bomb each one. They were all day long group interviews and all the other students over powered me. I had litterally no chance to speak, I was always talked over and felt shunned out by the other students. The faculty obviously viewed me as being one who was shy and too nervous to speak up.
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Not a swipe at you, but I hope you have the insight to know that you are EXACTLY the kind of person/applicant that Argosy targets.

You may be smart, bright, and make a fine psychologist, but the rest of the world knows all too well that Argosy takes students who weren't able to pass the bar at other programs.

How do you think this might affect your future professional goals? Have you looked at that outcome data yet?

PS: You school's students were banned from my internship program (a VA medical center). Literally, they were tossed without being looked at. I am not at a prestigious place either.
 
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futureapppsy2 said:
This. I just don't think $100k-plus debt in this field (or even anything above say $50-60k at most) is justifiable in this field. Going to Argosy or another FSPS out of desperation would be a huge mistake, IMO.
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I would guess $200K-plus is more the norm these days for Argosy.
 
Why in god's name would anyone pay more than $100k for something other than medical school? There's no way you could ever earn enough to pay that debt off.
 
HooahDOc said:
Why in god's name would anyone pay more than $100k for something other than medical school? There's no way you could ever earn enough to pay that debt off.
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Well, there are ways, but you won't walk into them easily and they are unlikely to present themselves if you went to any program that put you in such debt, ironically.
 
OP --

If your application has successfully gotten you interviews at other non FSPS / non Argosy schools, you deserve to not attend Argosy. You say you've bombed all your interviews. Everyone bombs interviews sometimes! In my opinion, you should spend your energy working for a year in a related position if possible and practicing obsessively to improve your interviewing skills. Utilize your university's career center if possible, or hire a coach. There are a million cheaper, better ways to fix your problem than settling for Argosy!
 
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op --

if your application has successfully gotten you interviews at other non fsps / non argosy schools, you deserve to not attend argosy. You say you've bombed all your interviews. Everyone bombs interviews sometimes! In my opinion, you should spend your energy working for a year in a related position if possible and practicing obsessively to improve your interviewing skills. Utilize your university's career center if possible, or hire a coach. There are a million cheaper, better ways to fix your problem than settling for argosy!
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+1
 
Hey guys I wanted to thank you all for your input. I ended up going to the interview prepared with questions to ask them about the stats of internships and number of students who practice in the field, dissertations and ect. They seemed impressed by my preparedness and by my knowledge and experience. I was shocked to also find such a broad range of interviewee's. Some had a ton of field experience, and were highly educated, having gone to top graduate schools in the nation, where as others were new B.A psych grads from this past May with no experience in the field. They will give out decisions in a week or so and they said that out of the 20 interviewee's they will be taking only 7 into the program for this year.
 
Also, I was shocked by how established and prominent some of the faculty was in the field. I was expecting foreign or poorly trained professors, but I realized that one of the directors is a highly published researcher and that 2 of the other faculty held high positions in APPIC and APA
 
nst231 said:
They will give out decisions in a week or so and they said that out of the 20 interviewee's they will be taking only 7 into the program for this year.
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I'm a bit confused. It's June. Do they do rolling admissions? If so, it means that even if they admit 7 of 20 current interviewees, your entering class will end up being a lot larger.
Anyway, don't let this little bit of unexpected competition trick you into accepting an offer just to justify the effort you put into the interview process.
 
nst231 said:
They seemed impressed by my preparedness and by my knowledge and experience. I was shocked to also find such a broad range of interviewee's. Some had a ton of field experience, and were highly educated, having gone to top graduate schools in the nation, where as others were new B.A psych grads from this past May with no experience in the field. They will give out decisions in a week or so and they said that out of the 20 interviewee's they will be taking only 7 into the program for this year.
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nst231 said:
Also, I was shocked by how established and prominent some of the faculty was in the field. I was expecting foreign or poorly trained professors, but I realized that one of the directors is a highly published researcher and that 2 of the other faculty held high positions in APPIC and APA
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I can't help but to respond to this. It all just sounds really fishy. None of the interviews I attended, for funded PhD programs, showed any kind of good impression over me being prepared, knowledgeable, or experienced--it was expected. Also, I am willing to bet that NONE (or very few) of those professors graduated from Argosy themselves. And it sounds like they were really marketing to you, trying to advertise their program. I mean, you are a customer with the ability to give them a LOT of money if they appeal to you, so take that into consideration--you are doing THEM a big favor by enrolling. No way that their incoming class is only 7 people, chosen from only 20 interviewees in June. June interviewees are people they invited based on openings they could not fill in the normal application cycle--guaranteed. You're probably going to join at least 50 others who were already admitted, unless this is an Argosy program that is not APA accredited.
 
Psychadelic2012 said:
I can't help but to respond to this. It all just sounds really fishy. None of the interviews I attended, for funded PhD programs, showed any kind of good impression over me being prepared, knowledgeable, or experienced--it was expected. Also, I am willing to bet that NONE (or very few) of those professors graduated from Argosy themselves. And it sounds like they were really marketing to you, trying to advertise their program. I mean, you are a customer with the ability to give them a LOT of money if they appeal to you, so take that into consideration--you are doing THEM a big favor by enrolling. No way that their incoming class is only 7 people, chosen from only 20 interviewees in June. June interviewees are people they invited based on openings they could not fill in the normal application cycle--guaranteed. You're probably going to join at least 50 others who were already admitted, unless this is an Argosy program that is not APA accredited.
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My wife many years ago briefly worked for one of those law firms you hear advertised on AM radio a lot (it was a tax firm). Since she worked for it, one of the partners got disbarred, BTW, for unethical practices of some kind.

Anyways, the way the law firm would rope clients is by having them interview with the partner for a "free, attorney-client privileged meeting." The partner would dazzle them with promises about how they could solve all the clients tax problems, and get all of this personalized, dedicated attention from the senior partners. Then, once the partner had the client sign the forms, the client immediately got their files transferred to one of the junior associates slaving away in the back rooms with a mountain of files on their desks.

The partners never worked on any of the cases themselves - they were there to rope in the suckers.
 
nst231 said:
Also, I was shocked by how established and prominent some of the faculty was in the field. I was expecting foreign or poorly trained professors, but I realized that one of the directors is a highly published researcher and that 2 of the other faculty held high positions in APPIC and APA
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You're desperate, as you said, and you have lots of money you can offer them, and they know it. Now they're going in for the killer sales pitch.
 
FWIW, one of the most prominent scholars in my area works at an FSPS. I remember finding that out during the app process and being rather disappointed because even that could not justify, to me, the *huge* financial and professional costs and risks of going to an FSPS. I did not apply, despite my great respect for that person as a scholar.

FSPS just aren't justifiable, IMO. That's not to say you can't get a good education at one (you can, and there are very skilled psychologists who come out of FSPS), but that level of debt, the usually subpar match rates, the huge class sizes, and the professional stigma attached to it aren't worth it, IMO. It's better to wait and reapply or go another route than to attend one.
 
futureapppsy2 said:
FWIW, one of the most prominent scholars in my area works at an FSPS. I remember finding that out during the app process and being rather disappointed because even that could not justify, to me, the *huge* financial and professional costs and risks of going to an FSPS. I did not apply, despite my great respect for that person as a scholar.

FSPS just aren't justifiable, IMO. That's not to say you can't get a good education at one (you can, and there are very skilled psychologists who come out of FSPS), but that level of debt, the usually subpar match rates, the huge class sizes, and the professional stigma attached to it aren't worth it, IMO. It's better to wait and reapply or go another route than to attend one.
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Agreed. My guess is that many of these prominent scholars are far along enough in their careers that they no longer need to worry about the program with which they're affiliated, and the FSPS likely offered a very attractive employment package (e.g., solid pay and benefits, all sorts of protected research time, light if any teaching load, their choice of applicants for their lab, etc.) in exchange for the prestige associated with the individual's name. Plus, let's face it, many FSPS's are in attractive locales, while the same can't always be said for large research universities.
 
AcronymAllergy said:
Agreed. My guess is that many of these prominent scholars are far along enough in their careers that they no longer need to worry about the program with which they're affiliated, and the FSPS likely offered a very attractive employment package (e.g., solid pay and benefits, all sorts of protected research time, light if any teaching load, their choice of applicants for their lab, etc.) in exchange for the prestige associated with the individual's name. Plus, let's face it, many FSPS's are in attractive locales, while the same can't always be said for large research universities.
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You have obviously never been to the thriving metropolis of Norman, OK or the woderfully safe and caring area of inner city philly!
 
nst231 said:
Hey guys I wanted to thank you all for your input. I ended up going to the interview prepared with questions to ask them about the stats of internships and number of students who practice in the field, dissertations and ect. They seemed impressed by my preparedness and by my knowledge and experience. I was shocked to also find such a broad range of interviewee's. Some had a ton of field experience, and were highly educated, having gone to top graduate schools in the nation, where as others were new B.A psych grads from this past May with no experience in the field. They will give out decisions in a week or so and they said that out of the 20 interviewee's they will be taking only 7 into the program for this year.
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They were impressed that you had done adequate research to prepare for the interview? That's a huge red flag, since at any other interview being prepared and having relevant questions would be a given. Also, there is no way your incoming class is only going to be 7 people. They probably have multiple group interviews going on. Did you ask them about the class size?

I don't see how you could possibly think this is a good career choice. Do not let your current desperation cause you to make an expensive and poor decision. Those famous researchers who work at your school didn't graduate from it, I'm guessing. The fact that famous researchers from legit programs are having to work at Argosy should give you a clue as to how bad the market is right now for clinical psychologists. Remember, they see you as a big bag of money and will do/say whatever they need to in order to convince you to enroll.
 
There's been a couple people questioning if there are really only 7 people in the incoming class...I have no idea which Argosy the OP applied to, but rumor has it that Argosy- Chicago only has 10 people in their incoming class next year. Although I am skeptical about this number, the chair of my psychology department was the one who passed along this information. If this is the case, it's important to point out that it was not Argosy's decision to have such a small class, but instead a direct result of their reputation.
 
OP: I suggest you take a step back. Your last post suggests to me that you're looking for reasons to say yes and filtering the reasons to say no. Confirmation bias, eh?

Look at the median PsyD debt. http://www.appic.org/Match/MatchStatistics/ApplicantSurvey2011Part3.aspx. 120K.

Look at your expected income. http://www.apa.org/workforce/publications/09-salaries/table-05.pdf Private practice? ~57K a year to start. You can search for income by geographical region as well. Do not fool yourself into thinking you'll get in the 95th percentile for income--you will probably make that median.

Ask yourself if paying back more than 100K in debt while having an income half that is going to be possible. Do you want a house? A car? Kids? Add that to the debt.

Do if you want, and you decide you want to take that massive financial burden that will be with you for at least 25 years, or you have a plan to fix it (e.g., military). But THINK about it. Don't be swayed by them throwing their brightest stars at you--you're going to be a psychologist, you should be immune to such blunt propaganda.
 
ClinicalABA said:
Also check out how much this debt will cost in interest payments, as well as (and maybe most importantly) what your monthly payments will be. Don't assume loan forgiveness or any of that. The numbers are staggeringly, handcuffingly, large.
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In addition to that, with the stigma attached to programs such as Argosy, it's becoming harder and harder to secure an APA-accredited internship (which the APA is trying to push as the national standard, which many hospitals and other employers require of employees, and which a handful of states require for licensure). Thus, by attending such a program, you're not only handcuffing yourself with greater debt, but also potentially with more-limited career options.
 
CSOPP said:
I have no idea which Argosy the OP applied to, but rumor has it that Argosy- Chicago only has 10 people in their incoming class next year. Although I am skeptical about this number, the chair of my psychology department was the one who passed along this information.
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Here is their data: http://www.argosy.edu/documents/psydinfo/Chicago-psyd-outcomes.pdf.

They consistently average ~70 students applying for internship every year, including this past cycle. Trust the data and not the rumors. Although, I know, we all wish it were true!
 
I'm terrified about matching and I'm in an APA-accredited, funded PhD program. I can't even imagine how someone at Argosy must feel.
 
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