asking idiotic questions in lecture

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anyone else hate these people? they sit in the front row and ask the most meaningless, inane questions? (or questions that are way too in-depth and out of scope?) these people are so selfish... they can ask a question at the end of class if it's one that the entire class might not benefit from... these people just scream "this lecture is geared towards me and only me".

i kind of want to write an anonymous note somehow to these people saying "there is such a thing as a stupid question" or remark on how their pedantic questions break the flow / pace of lectures for everyone else.

anyway, discuss.
 
anyone else hate these people? they sit in the front row and ask the most meaningless, inane questions? (or questions that are way too in-depth and out of scope?) these people are so selfish... they can ask a question at the end of class if it's one that the entire class might not benefit from... these people just scream "this lecture is geared towards me and only me".

i kind of want to write an anonymous note somehow to these people saying "there is such a thing as a stupid question" or remark on how their pedantic questions break the flow / pace of lectures for everyone else.

anyway, discuss.


our question asker actually sits toward the back... and most of the time they are actually stupid questions... either asking about something that answered at least 20 times or asking about something not related to the lecture.
 
You can divide askers WITH STUPID(not-in-time) QUESTIONS into 4 groups:
  • askers who know the answer but just wanna embarass the lecturer:meanie:
  • askers who know the answer but just wanna show other students that they can ask superior questions about the lecture😎
  • askers who don't care about the answer but just wanna interrupt the lecturer (may be boring lecturer)😴
  • askers who don't know the answer because they are so stupid to know it😕
So, you can know the position of their seats easily:
front,front,back,middle (respectively)!!!!!!!

PS Where do you exactly sit in the lecture?🙂
 
Ok, first, this is SDN, so you aren't allowed to assume that anyone is stupid, even if they say stupid things.

That being said, yes, I hate this people. One day, during 4 hours of lecture (back to back to back) one person asked 56 questions. We counted them. Between the 2 people that ask the most, there were 78. Between the rest of the class, there were 18. Lets see, 4 per hour from 58 people, or 14 per hour from 1 person.
And when we went and spoke to this person, their response was "I pay tuition, so I get to ask whatever I want." To which my reply was "I pay tuition too, but not to hear you speak. These people have office hours. If you don't understand something, go talk to them then, don't assume the rest of us don't understand it."

And to any of you that say for every question you ask, there are 5 people in the back that wanted to ask that question, that is bull. Nobody needs to ask some of these stupid questions. Questions like "How did that saddle embolus get into the trachea?"
 
I feel your (collective) pain. The reason why I often times hold my anger back is the simple fact that they do pay tuition; sometimes I feel as if I'm just not getting enough out of my education (seeing as I skip a lot of class and watch lectures online, etc.) in comparison to these people. Then I wake up and want to smack them in the face with my lecture notes. :meanie:
 
I sit in the back and the question askers sit in the front so I can never hear what they are asking. Thats probably for the best.
 
I think some people have just been conditioned to ask questions. Many classes in undergrad (and actually, my biochem class in grad school, believe it or not) have some sort of participation component to them, and some people develop the habit of speaking up and asking a question at least once per class, whether they've formulated an intelligent question or not. At least, that's the only explanation for some of the ******* questions I've heard - people are talking just to be a question-asker.
 
I think some people have just been conditioned to ask questions. Many classes in undergrad (and actually, my biochem class in grad school, believe it or not) have some sort of participation component to them, and some people develop the habit of speaking up and asking a question at least once per class, whether they've formulated an intelligent question or not. At least, that's the only explanation for some of the ******* questions I've heard - people are talking just to be a question-asker.

Is "Knight of Cydonia" in reference to the Muse song? If so, rock on👍 👍
 
Anyone else notice the domino affect one question has on the other "question askers"? You know when one of them asks a question, and a cascade of hands start to go up.
 
anyone else hate these people? they sit in the front row and ask the most meaningless, inane questions? (or questions that are way too in-depth and out of scope?) these people are so selfish... they can ask a question at the end of class if it's one that the entire class might not benefit from... these people just scream "this lecture is geared towards me and only me".

i kind of want to write an anonymous note somehow to these people saying "there is such a thing as a stupid question" or remark on how their pedantic questions break the flow / pace of lectures for everyone else.

anyway, discuss.

Hi there,
When this starts to happen in my lectures, I ask the person (questioner) to meet me in my office during office hours and I can answer their questions there. I will not allow them to disrupt lecture. (I once had one of them complain to the Dean but I won that battle easily).

When a questioner starts to "take-over" the lecture or break the pace, I usually stop them and reinterate my ground rules: Anything in lecture, lab, text and syllabus is testable material. If you keep interrupting my lecture, you will have more to do at home and on your own (I tend to use lecture to hit the most important learning points i.e. Board material).

Some people in your classes are rude and self-centered. As an experienced lecturer, I can usually keep these folks under control. If not, they are asked to leave as everyone in the room has paid the same amount of tuition and are entitled to hear a lecture. If a person is disruptive, this usually means that they do not want to be in lecture and therefore I can make sure that they leave.

Questions come at the end of the lecture and not during. I have plenty of time built into my lecture for the end questions. Again, this allows folks who do not have questions to leave or shut-down.

If these folks are disrupting your learning experience, discuss this during your class meetings and ask your professors to support you on this. You are paying too much tuition not to get what you need out of lecture.

Also realize that the folks who feel the need to "show off" in lecture or ask unrelated questions are very insecure. For the most part, they are pitiful.

njbmd🙂
 
I've only been in lecture for a few days now and these haven't been any questions. Not one. No one has raised their hand or interrupted the lecturer. I'm really hoping this trend continues.
 
I've only been in lecture for a few days now and these haven't been any questions. Not one. No one has raised their hand or interrupted the lecturer. I'm really hoping this trend continues.

Don't hold your breath.
 
anyone else hate these people? they sit in the front row and ask the most meaningless, inane questions? (or questions that are way too in-depth and out of scope?) these people are so selfish... they can ask a question at the end of class if it's one that the entire class might not benefit from... these people just scream "this lecture is geared towards me and only me".

i kind of want to write an anonymous note somehow to these people saying "there is such a thing as a stupid question" or remark on how their pedantic questions break the flow / pace of lectures for everyone else.

anyway, discuss.

I saw this on another thread, you could get one for each of your obnoxious classmates.

www.despair.com/cluelessness.html
 
I've only been in lecture for a few days now and these haven't been any questions. Not one. No one has raised their hand or interrupted the lecturer. I'm really hoping this trend continues.

After the first test, some percentage of the class will do well and decide they are smart. Then the questioning begins. Until the next test when a different group gets validated. But it's not always a bad thing.
You will find that some people always hone in on the concepts that are most likely to be on the test. When you hear their questions, it will help you know what areas to look at again. Other people are pretty good about asking questions that will never be on the test. Once you know what they are focusing in on, you will know what things you can spend less time on. Narrowing scope is sometimes as useful as a legit question. Think of it as using a bird dog to flush out the game. Just sit back and see what flies.
Or just don't go to class -- that's the other popular solution.🙂
 
i hate people who interrupt and break the rhythm of the lecture. All you do is pause and hear a Charlie Brown mumble: "mwah mwah mwah ....mwah mwah ...mwah mwah mwah ".

even worse is when the lecturer doesn't (have the balls to) ask the questionman to go to office hours.

Here's what you can do: surround yourself by a group of people, then duck your head to remain sorta anonymous, and yell in an altered voice: "GO TO OFFICE HOURS!!!!!"
 
Is "Knight of Cydonia" in reference to the Muse song? If so, rock on👍 👍
Yeah, they've been my favorite band for years, and now other people (in the U.S.) are finally starting to recognize them!
 
Yeah, they've been my favorite band for years, and now other people (in the U.S.) are finally starting to recognize them!

They are awesome, definitely one of my favorite bands. I just discovered them about 6 months ago though.
 
I'd take a dumb question over forced laughing at ANYTHING the lecturer says that is even remotely humorous anyday...projecting the laugh, and maintaining it well after the rest of us do (if we even started)...👎

I want one of those "power to entertain yourself" devices so I could be like, "You. Chew off your tongue."
 
Hi there,
When this starts to happen in my lectures, I ask the person (questioner) to meet me in my office during office hours and I can answer their questions there. I will not allow them to disrupt lecture. (I once had one of them complain to the Dean but I won that battle easily).

When a questioner starts to "take-over" the lecture or break the pace, I usually stop them and reinterate my ground rules: Anything in lecture, lab, text and syllabus is testable material. If you keep interrupting my lecture, you will have more to do at home and on your own (I tend to use lecture to hit the most important learning points i.e. Board material).

Some people in your classes are rude and self-centered. As an experienced lecturer, I can usually keep these folks under control. If not, they are asked to leave as everyone in the room has paid the same amount of tuition and are entitled to hear a lecture. If a person is disruptive, this usually means that they do not want to be in lecture and therefore I can make sure that they leave.

Questions come at the end of the lecture and not during. I have plenty of time built into my lecture for the end questions. Again, this allows folks who do not have questions to leave or shut-down.

If these folks are disrupting your learning experience, discuss this during your class meetings and ask your professors to support you on this. You are paying too much tuition not to get what you need out of lecture.

Also realize that the folks who feel the need to "show off" in lecture or ask unrelated questions are very insecure. For the most part, they are pitiful.

njbmd🙂

I wish my school had lecturers like you...

That question's not important...get out!

I know thats not what you were saying, exactly. But still it's nice to see that lecturers see t hrough some of the b.s. questions sometimes.
 
Speaking of people who ask lots of questions.....when we were doing a renal block during my second year, this one girl probably asked about 30 questions during a two hour lecture. Of course, the more questions she asked, the further behind we were on the material. About ten minutes before class was over, she raised her hand. Know what question she asked?

"Sir, can you please hurry it up? We are getting behind and we won't get through all of this material!" 🙄 We all wanted to strangle her!
 
so far, most of our questions have been halfway decent. I wouldn't have asked most of them, but they aren't irritating. We'll see. I've had inquisitive idiots in class before.
 
I'd take a dumb question over forced laughing at ANYTHING the lecturer says that is even remotely humorous anyday...projecting the laugh, and maintaining it well after the rest of us do (if we even started)...👎

I want one of those "power to entertain yourself" devices so I could be like, "You. Chew off your tongue."

I agree 110% with this!!! The laughing at ANYTHING syndrome has got to be the lamest and most annoying thing to mess up a fellow students concentration in class even if "the laugher" a.k.a. Happy Puppet syndrome claims to have IRRITABLE BOWEL SYNDROME!!!!
 
Me and my father go back and forth on this. I say as humans we have the power to reason, first think real hard then if you REALY dont know then you're allowed to ask maybe 1 but no more then 2 qs since it takes from the class time.
 
As an M2, I can say that usually the ?'s thing gets better. eventually.

However, my class seems to think that they should applaud after lectures. Sometimes it is appropriate, like when it's obviously been out of a doctor's way to come and be a guest speaker. But other times, it's just silly. Like today when they clapped after psych. Apparently some people perceived it to be a guest lecturer. We have a different lecturer every week in that class. Come on now.
 
i am someone who often asked questions. I want to be an active part of my learning. Also, i hate class, so when i do go to class, i want to feel like i'm controlling it, like it's taylored to me. Call me selfish, i call it a more productive use of my time.
 
It doesnt happen in our class much, maybe a couple of disruptions per lecture. What I find strange at our lectures is that as soon as the lecture is over, a flock of students descends upon the lecturer. For some reason though, it is ALWAYS the same 6 or 8 students. Do they know they dont have to ask questions? or that our grades are determined by multiple choice test?...no need to kiss ass.

But hell...its on their time and if it keeps them from asking their obvious/dumb/overcomplicated questions in lecture I guess I cant complain.

I just dont get it. Very little in medical school has even been conceptual, let alone a difficult to understand concept. Its all very simple in and of itself. The difficulty comes in trying to remember all of the details of the huge volume of info we're exposed to.
 
Me and my father go back and forth on this. I say as humans we have the power to reason, first think real hard then if you REALY dont know then you're allowed to ask maybe 1 but no more then 2 qs since it takes from the class time.

That's sort of my thought. I think it's intellectually lazy to ask a question without trying to think about it first. Unfortunately, lots of people don't agree with that. 🙁 Actually, question asking has not been super annoying in my classes yet, at least nowhere near as annoying as it was in premed prereq classes or in my MCAT Kaplan class.
 
There is rarely ever a question that needs to be asked as soon as the professor talks about the material. I mean come on, lecture is not a study session between a student and the professor. I think chronic question askers are extremely selfish.
 
i am someone who often asked questions. I want to be an active part of my learning. Also, i hate class, so when i do go to class, i want to feel like i'm controlling it, like it's taylored to me. Call me selfish, i call it a more productive use of my time.

If you truly don't understand something and it's not outside of the scope of the lecture, I'm fine with it. If you do this just to keep your attention and you ask ******ed questions, I'm sure your classmates hate you. Your choice.
 
Yesterday we were learning about malaria and this girl asks, "but which came first, the parasite or the mosquito?". Classic from this individual. Then exactly .01 seconds after lecture has ended, she and her friends hurdle over seats and attack the lecturer with equally inane questions. If you want to ask the lecturer something legitimate, too bad. If you manage to get there first they will push you over. I find it astonishing that this continues given that everytime these people open their mouths the entire class groans and sneers. Apparently public shame is also a difficult concept.
 
I've only been in lecture for a few days now and these haven't been any questions. Not one. No one has raised their hand or interrupted the lecturer. I'm really hoping this trend continues.

Yep, unfortunately as soon as one person asks a question, it's just going to open the floodgates.

As far as my school goes, we have this one person who will raise her hand to ask a question at least one time a lecture. So, the profs definitely get to know who she is, and will in fact make a point not to look her direction. She's started just interupting them mid-sentence, which KILLS me! 😡 One more reason why I'm not looking forward to class starting up again next Tuesday...
 
Yesterday we were learning about malaria and this girl asks, "but which came first, the parasite or the mosquito?". Classic from this individual. Then exactly .01 seconds after lecture has ended, she and her friends hurdle over seats and attack the lecturer with equally inane questions. If you want to ask the lecturer something legitimate, too bad. If you manage to get there first they will push you over. I find it astonishing that this continues given that everytime these people open their mouths the entire class groans and sneers. Apparently public shame is also a difficult concept.



stick your arm out and say "whoa. back the f*ck off. get in line".

for these people, you need a shotgun. no one has ever shown them what's up, so they keep doing what they do.
 
Timely:

cluelessness.jpg
 
It doesnt happen in our class much, maybe a couple of disruptions per lecture. What I find strange at our lectures is that as soon as the lecture is over, a flock of students descends upon the lecturer. For some reason though, it is ALWAYS the same 6 or 8 students. Do they know they dont have to ask questions? or that our grades are determined by multiple choice test?...no need to kiss ass.

Though it may be a difficult concept for some people on this thread to grasp, a few medical students here and there are actually curious people who like science, as opposed to unimaginative grinders who see the diadatic portion of med school as something to be endured by shutting one's eyes and thinking of England, aka an attending's paycheck.

Questions should be on point. They should be things that you cannot answer by reflecting for a moment or looking over the lecture notes. One should not ask double-digit questions an hour. That said, the lecture model is interactive by design. There are literally scores of countries -- the majority, in fact -- where students are trained from kindergarden onwards to sit quietly and write down whatever the teacher says, however little they understand it. I've taught these people in Russia and Ukraine and it is an eerie and frustrating experience. A more Socratic approach yields better performers -- why, no one knows precisely, but it does.
 
They should be things that you cannot answer by reflecting for a moment or looking over the lecture notes. One should not ask double-digit questions an hour.

I agree that it's a good thing that we are able to ask questions, but here in lies the problem. 80% of the questions are described above.

My favorite: "Is such-and-such gonna be on the test?"
 
Though it may be a difficult concept for some people on this thread to grasp, a few medical students here and there are actually curious people who like science, as opposed to unimaginative grinders who see the diadatic portion of med school as something to be endured by shutting one's eyes and thinking of England, aka an attending's paycheck.

Questions should be on point. They should be things that you cannot answer by reflecting for a moment or looking over the lecture notes. One should not ask double-digit questions an hour. That said, the lecture model is interactive by design. There are literally scores of countries -- the majority, in fact -- where students are trained from kindergarden onwards to sit quietly and write down whatever the teacher says, however little they understand it. I've taught these people in Russia and Ukraine and it is an eerie and frustrating experience. A more Socratic approach yields better performers -- why, no one knows precisely, but it does.


The Socratic Method doesn't work w/ 150 people. We all have questions. If we all asked them, there would be no time for the lecture. I am not talking about the person who asks a question once in a while. These students will hijack a lecture, causing the end to be rushed and often causing it to run late. There is a net loss of learning to everyone but the questioner.
 
The Socratic Method doesn't work w/ 150 people. We all have questions. If we all asked them, there would be no time for the lecture. I am not talking about the person who asks a question once in a while. These students will hijack a lecture, causing the end to be rushed and often causing it to run late. There is a net loss of learning to everyone but the questioner.

Not to be nitpicky, but the "socratic method" as a learning tool was actually designed for large classes (law school classes in particular). The difference, though, is that the teacher does the asking, not the students. Mainly, it just gives the professor official leave to be an a$$. 🙂

I agree, though, that question asking can be rude and inappropriate even if you're interested in the subject. Both the professor and class time are shared resources.
 
Not to be nitpicky, but the "socratic method" as a learning tool was actually designed for large classes (law school classes in particular). The difference, though, is that the teacher does the asking, not the students. Mainly, it just gives the professor official leave to be an a$$. 🙂

I agree, though, that question asking can be rude and inappropriate even if you're interested in the subject. Both the professor and class time are shared resources.

Agree with the first part of this comment. The socratic method has worked great in a class of hundreds, and actually is designed to keep a larger class engaged and prepared (out of fear of humiliation). But it doesn't really lend itself to most of medical education because it really is meant to teach you to think about things from multiple sides -- that good can be bad and right can be wrong if you play with the parameters or frame the issue a certain way. Thus it totally lends itself to courses where the material is subject to debate, such as law, ethics, philosophy, etc. A skillful professor can make you think using this method (that doesn't necessarilly make him an a$$).
It doesn't make as much sense in, say, a fact intensive course such as anatomy.
 
we had a good one day. the prof was talking about standard deviations and our question girl blurted out, "are these going to be on the test?" Keep in mind, the lecture was on standard deviations. i am totally serious.
 
Agree with the first part of this comment. The socratic method has worked great in a class of hundreds, and actually is designed to keep a larger class engaged and prepared (out of fear of humiliation). But it doesn't really lend itself to most of medical education because it really is meant to teach you to think about things from multiple sides -- that good can be bad and right can be wrong if you play with the parameters or frame the issue a certain way. Thus it totally lends itself to courses where the material is subject to debate, such as law, ethics, philosophy, etc. A skillful professor can make you think using this method (that doesn't necessarilly make him an a$$).
It doesn't make as much sense in, say, a fact intensive course such as anatomy.

It's true that it could theoretically have value. It takes a lot of skill on the part of the professor to do it well, though, and that was rare at my school. Also, the powertrippers are definitely there, and it is abused by some professors. I had this professor who prided himself on being a jerk and actually hung up copies of his bad student evaluations outside his office. I can't believe he wasn't a sick sadistic b@stard. Sure, he'd say it's all about teaching, but it was really about bullying. I'm guessing pimping comes from the same impulse. 🙄
 
It's true that it could theoretically have value. It takes a lot of skill on the part of the professor to do it well, though, and that was rare at my school. Also, the powertrippers are definitely there, and it is abused by some professors. I had this professor who prided himself on being a jerk and actually hung up copies of his bad student evaluations outside his office. I can't believe he wasn't a sick sadistic b@stard. Sure, he'd say it's all about teaching, but it was really about bullying. I'm guessing pimping comes from the same impulse. 🙄

Sounds like you picked yourself a bad law school. The socratic method classes I've experienced were all done quite well.
Similarly pimping can be a positive learning experience if it forces you to know your stuff and is not tied to too much abuse. But the catch with pimping is that, unlike law professors, the folks doing the pimping are not as far removed from the experience, and so it all too often deteriorates into much more like a fraternity hazing -- where you victimize the newbies the same way you felt you were victimized. On the bright side, there will be another class of newbies behind you, so you will get your turn.🙂
 
our question askers make it so personal. like i was perscribed X and Y by my doctor, do you think that this has an effect on my X and should I be doing X??? i am fairly sure that no one will be tested over your medical condition, so maybe you could ask that after class.
 
I like the "what if" questions. Those are the best ones because they lead to their friends asking more questions. Also, obviously the mosquito came first. Didn't that person see Jurassic Park?
 
The worst are the "Is that why (obscure clinical correlation)?" questions. I don't really give a crap if you think a diaphragmatic hernia might lead to Wilson-Blah-Dontcare syndrome. It's great that you're an EMT, RN, PA or know-it-all, but if we were supposed to learn it now they'd TELL US. I have been sitting in lecture for 3 hours and you just extended my torture by 1 minute and thirty seconds. Please show off your amazing logical deduction skills after class or in the professors office. thank you.
 
I should be studying for anatomy, but alas, here I am again...

exlaw, you gotta keep an ear out for the random projection laugher. It won't be hard. Half way up, usually in the middle. Which I'm sure is her desire to be the center of attention manifesting itself...it'll be like falling in love, when it happens, you'll know...
 
I should be studying for anatomy, but alas, here I am again...

exlaw, you gotta keep an ear out for the random projection laugher. It won't be hard. Half way up, usually in the middle. Which I'm sure is her desire to be the center of attention manifesting itself...it'll be like falling in love, when it happens, you'll know...

Yeah, me too. Still a little hazy on the forearm extensors, but I can answer the questions in Chung, so maybe I'm okay. I guess I'll see. :scared:

So I've missed her up 'til now, but I'll be listening. 🙂
 
Sounds like you picked yourself a bad law school. The socratic method classes I've experienced were all done quite well.
Similarly pimping can be a positive learning experience if it forces you to know your stuff and is not tied to too much abuse. But the catch with pimping is that, unlike law professors, the folks doing the pimping are not as far removed from the experience, and so it all too often deteriorates into much more like a fraternity hazing -- where you victimize the newbies the same way you felt you were victimized. On the bright side, there will be another class of newbies behind you, so you will get your turn.🙂

Or maybe your perspective was different?? I felt like professors either asked straight forward factual types of questions, which didn't encourage critical thinking, or they grilled the h3ll out of you. The main good thing was that that fear of humilitation kept me up to date on my readings during the first year. I'm not a big fan of either tradition or legal education, so that might explain my feelings.
 
I'd take a dumb question over forced laughing at ANYTHING the lecturer says that is even remotely humorous anyday...projecting the laugh, and maintaining it well after the rest of us do (if we even started)...👎

I want one of those "power to entertain yourself" devices so I could be like, "You. Chew off your tongue."


What if one of the question-queens/kings is the forced laugher?

We had one of those in my class. Constantly struggling to laugh the loudest at the stupidest jokes and in the meantime trying to impress the prof/clinician by asking detailed questions that usually either had nothing to do with anything or were just covered 4 minutes ago 😡

Fortunately, I am done with lectures 😀


I like the "what if" questions. Those are the best ones because they lead to their friends asking more questions. Also, obviously the mosquito came first. Didn't that person see Jurassic Park?

Ever really thought about the premise of Jurassic Park? Extracting DNA from moisquitoes (sp?)??? Mospuitoes contain blood= Red Blood Cells. RBC's have no organelles and no DNA, so therefore you can't get DNA from blood and definitely not from petrified 4million year old mosquitoes!

Someone should ask that question in a Histology lecture.😀



Can we turn this into a favorite dumb/rhetorical questions asked thread?

Here are a few of my favorites from my 2 didactic years from a combination of lectures and labs including ACLS training:
1. "Does the ATP have to get out of the Mitochondria?"
2. "How much longer is this lecture going to run? I really need to pee."
3. "Is colorectal cancer contagious?"
4. During ACLS training at a hospital: "Do I have enough time on our break to sneak down and have a cancer stick?"



Note: I am all in favor of asking questions in pursuit of a better understanding of the material, however if you find yourself asking more than 2-3 questions a day, chances are this thread is about you and you should start asking your questions either between lectures or look them up yourself.
 
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