Attrition rate at your school

[blankguy]

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How many people don't make it through the entire 4 yrs of school at your dental school?

 

[drPheta]

We lost a few people already this year (1st year). Most deferred to class of 2008, and some of those missing have dropped as soon as they were accepted to their waitlisted school. Others had personal problems, so I don't know how many exactly didn't make it cause they couldn't hack it. The key courses: Gross and Dental Anatomy took out a couple, then Medicine I and Histology wiped a couple more. They were bright people, too!

We went from a class of 150 to a class of 140 something

 

[Bickle]

Yikes. I hope I can handle those classes, especially since I havent taken a anatomy or histo course yet.

 

[flat4]

I think we lost about 4 or 5 from our class mostly 1st semester and I think another 5 or 6 had to remediate classes. The ones who couldn't hang weren't necessarily dumb but just partied too hard or couldn't handle the work load of all the classes at once. If you put time into it and you try hard, it's hard not to pass. You have to be somewhat intelligent to even get into school (unless someone really pulled some strings for you 🙄 ) so it's really a matter of time management. The material doesn't really get that much harder than undergrad...just more material gets piled on you at one time.

 

[claudiadent]

Dr. Pheta;

Do you need to have taken Anatomy prior to dong well in Gross Anatomy? Is the info given to you in lecture enough to do well in the class? In other words, how can you expect to do well even if you have no background in anatomy?

 

[dentite001]

Yikes. I hope I can handle those classes, especially since I havent taken a anatomy or histo course yet.

No worries. If in doubt, just buy the books ahead of time and read up. Histo and ESPECIALLY anatomy is just memorization. The concepts arn't really that challenging.

 

[blankguy]

Just how much memorization is it??

 

[flat4]

Dr. Pheta;

Do you need to have taken Anatomy prior to dong well in Gross Anatomy? Is the info given to you in lecture enough to do well in the class? In other words, how can you expect to do well even if you have no background in anatomy?

I didn't have any background in that class and did fine in it BUT I must say i put in the most time and effort into that class than any others I've encountered so far. The didactics aren't so bad in that class as bad as the practicals. I wasn't really used to studying for a practicals so on the first one, I got a 58% However, once I put in the cadaver time, I then got a 100% and a 98% on the next two and ended up with an A in the class. I was very lucky the first one only counted 20% while the other 2 were 40%...this tells you the professors know that the students always mess the first one up. I'm not trying to gloat. I'm just trying to give the average Joe's like myself with not much background hope but the key is to putting in the time. I was always on time with my readings and I spent many a Sundays with our cadaver. This class takes more effort than many but it is definitely doable.

 

[r_salis]

If you have to remediate a class, are you held back a year?

 

[ItsGavinC]

We've only had one year of classes at our school, but we've lost two people (from 54 to 52) and both were due to non-academic reasons. One was health related and one was a personal issue.

 

[drPheta]

Like flat4 said, you do not need to have prior anatomy experience. I had 0 (zero) exposure to cadavers and gross anatomy, but I had 0 (zero) problems with the class. Just expect to be in the lab a lot before and after class, especially when exams come around.

 

[smilee]

hey
do u guys think attrition rate is more in first year ??!!possibility of failure due to academic reason could be high in which year ? just curious!!!

 

[flat4]

If you have to remediate a class, are you held back a year?

At Temple, you can remediate(when you fail a class) up to 2 classes in your 4 years here. When you remediate a class, you're not necessarily retaking the class. You just have to take a cumulative final for that subject. Studying for it is up to you. You can do it on your own or with the help of a professor. If you get an A on the remediated final, you DO NOT get an A for the class. The highest grade you can get is an F/C (not quite sure what that means but "F" is never good on transcripts). I don't know how it goes for classes with lab sections (preclinic, Anatomy practicals, etc). The point is, you do not want to be there expecially with concurrent summer classes at most schools. After you use up your 2 remediations, you either a) are kicked out or b) dropped back one year. This is decided by some commitee of your peers, faculty, and administration. The point is, you do not want to be there especially with concurrent summer classes at most schools.

I know when I was in your guys' shoes last year, I was worrying about the same thing but looking back, I would tell you guys to relax and enjoy your summer. Like I said previously, put in the time and you will make out just fine.

 

[3rdMolarRoller]

I expect we will be down around 15 so from 268 to 253

We can fail 3 classes a year and remediate them. So it is very generous here!

 

[claudiadent]

WOW over 250 students in your class? Isn't that overwhelming?

 

[cgt3477]

I know of 6 people that have dropped out of my class (2 girls and 4 boys).

From what I've heard:

3 left for personal reasons and 2 said they would return with the 2008 class.

One student was repeating the year with our class (because she failed operative her first year) and after finishing half the semester she decided this wasn't for her.

Two others failed dental anatomy and failed the remediation. I am sure both were given the option to repeat the year but I am not sure what they decided.

After the summer there still may be one or two more since we have a couple of people remediating this summer.