attrition rate

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FutureRxGal said:
Is that due to failing and dropping out?
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It's pretty much due to failing. There are a few people who have dropped for personal reasons. People come in and think that it will be like undergrad and it's not. If you don't make studying your favorite hobby, it will be hard to make it through.
 
anyone else have any idea what it is for their school?

i'm just a little concerned about how i'll end up doing when i start my first professional year in the fall. i've always gotten through school by hard work...people think i'm smart, but it's just that i put in the time needed to get good grades.

i'm afraid that that won't be enough in such a tough program...

thoughts?
 
it is all about getting priorities straight and having a good start. once you are get into a rhythm it is very hard to maintain and become a second nature. just like how freshman year in college was. couple people kept their prorities staraight and concentrated on academics first did very well in their first year and their success continues. others who put social life first they struggled and graduated maginally, and having tough time getting into other schools or finding a job. pharmacy school is same. just need to put 10 times of effort than the college. have a good start then you will be fine. otherwise you will continue to stuggle just to pass.
 
There is no attrition rate at UW Seattle. They have a "no student left behind" policy. If you are having academic or other difficulties they will come talk to you and see what they can do to provide help, support, and referral to services. They are very non-judgemental about it. You can only retake a course once, though. So if it doesn't work the second time around I am not sure what they would do with you.
 
bananaface said:
There is no attrition rate at UW Seattle. They have a "no student left behind" policy. If you are having academic or other difficulties they will come talk to you and see what they can do to provide help, support, and referral to services. They are very non-judgemental about it. You can only retake a course once, though. So if it doesn't work the second time around I am not sure what they would do with you.
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But what happens if you are getting something like a 1.2 gpa? Won't that just make it hard for them to find a job later on? 😕
 
sorry to sound like a dunce but, what's an "attrition rate"? 😕
 
A school's attrition rate is that at which people leave the school without graduating.

You have to get a 2.0 in all core courses, and a 2.0 overall to graduate @ UW. There are tutors available to those who need them. You are not going to go long with a 1.2. The administration will approach you and work with you to get you back on track. Not that many people have problems, because students have to compete so hard to get in that they are all willing to put in the time to suceed.
 
mass college of pharm's attrition rate is close to 0. only becasue anyone can slide throught here. even if you get caught for plagarism, they will some how let you slide by. basically any one that gets in will graduate.
 
TotalKayOs said:
mass college of pharm's attrition rate is close to 0. only becasue anyone can slide throught here. even if you get caught for plagarism, they will some how let you slide by. basically any one that gets in will graduate.
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Oh, now that's a comforting thought. 🙄
 
on scary thought (well not really) 15 people from last year didnt make it. we dont seem to have no student left behind act here.
 
first thing i resent some of the things people say about mcp boston. i go there and it is a good school. teachers are great and all schools have administration problems. i am in my last year we started at 250 and we are under 220 i am waiting for graduation to see the actual numbers.
 
LIBERIANGIRL said:
first thing i resent some of the things people say about mcp boston. i go there and it is a good school. teachers are great and all schools have administration problems. i am in my last year we started at 250 and we are under 220 i am waiting for graduation to see the actual numbers.
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Firstly, I don't think anyone was saying that it is a bad school. Someone, who obviously goes there said that they will let pretty much anyone get away with plagiarism. Personally, I think that if a school does not impose serious consequences for plagiarism, then it diminishes the PharmD degree that we are all working for. I don't want other people with my degree to be cheaters...that devalues the profession. I think that most schools have very stringent policies on this matter, as they should. Yes, every school does have administration problems, however, I've never heard of a professional school letting people get away with plagiarism.
 
i got to MCP boston and i disagree with you. the admistration sucks and they only want to get more money out of the students. hence the new policy where all students must take 12 credits or more to pay the flat tuition rate up until their 5th year. currently if all you electives all complete then you can take under 12 credits and only pay per credit, that's what i;m doing this year and saving about 4k in tuition. MCP has no standards for addmissions. anyone can get in. and most people know that, that's why MCP is the safty school of the nation. students here don't even have to be able to write or speak well to get through classes. there is an written profeciency test that all students are required to take. students are supposed to write a paper picking a side to an argumnet where they suppport their argument with article. the only thing is MCP hands out the paper and articles a week before hand so many students wirte it and memorize it for the test. that's not a test of writing ablility, it a test of memorization, just like every other test in this school. if you are proud to go to MCP, great, personally i am not. when i am working i take off my MCP pin and name tag. i know many,many people who feel the same way. and out of all the people i have meet here, a very few of them admit to having MCP as their first or even second choice of a school.
 
TotalKayOs said:
if you are proud to go to MCP, great, personally i am not. when i am working i take off my MCP pin and name tag. i know many,many people who feel the same way.
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If it is so embarassing to got to MCP, why are you telling us that you go there? 😕
 
i know my last post was filled with mis-spelling, but i wrote it quick, an i am only saying this so that others learn from my mistakes and are fully aware of what MCP is before they go there.
 
TotalKayOs said:
i got to MCP boston and i disagree with you. the admistration sucks and they only want to get more money out of the students. hence the new policy where all students must take 12 credits or more to pay the flat tuition rate up until their 5th year. currently if all you electives all complete then you can take under 12 credits and only pay per credit, that's what i;m doing this year and saving about 4k in tuition. MCP has no standards for addmissions. anyone can get in. and most people know that, that's why MCP is the safty school of the nation. students here don't even have to be able to write or speak well to get through classes. there is an written profeciency test that all students are required to take. students are supposed to write a paper picking a side to an argumnet where they suppport their argument with article. the only thing is MCP hands out the paper and articles a week before hand so many students wirte it and memorize it for the test. that's not a test of writing ablility, it a test of memorization, just like every other test in this school. if you are proud to go to MCP, great, personally i am not. when i am working i take off my MCP pin and name tag. i know many,many people who feel the same way. and out of all the people i have meet here, a very few of them admit to having MCP as their first or even second choice of a school.
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good for you, people like you give this school a bad name, i have seen a few people kicked out of mcp, and i know that all our policies are changing. i am in rotations right now and i will tell you that i compare to everyother student out there. i notice that some of the people in here only go to pharmacy school for the money, do yourself a favor and learn more about the career. last fall alone i saw 15 people fail my class and in the spring 4 from my class were dropped out of the program. do not study and than come back and tell people you would graduate anyway and see if that works. as for plagerism in our school in seminar in the spring semestar, one of my classmates learned what failing a 1 credit class could do to you (another year at mcp). look around your class and take a good look i tell you and you will not see some people again. when people start telling you their major is pharmaceutical science. they have been dropped out of the pharmD program.
 
There is such a thing as capitalization and sentence structure. In an on-line forum you are judged not only about what you write, but how it is presented. When I see such poorly written posts I can't help but think that the person writing it is either not professional, incompetent, or both. This is especially disturbing to me considering that you are members of a professional program and, at least in theory, should be well educated. If you are capable of writing clearly and don't, then it indicates that you really don't care if people take you seriously.
 
Tuck said:
Is it a pre-requisite that people going to MCP cannot create a valid sentence? There is such a thing as capitalization and sentence structure. In an on-line forum you are judged not only about what you write, but how it is presented. When I see such poorly written posts I can't help but think that the person writing it is either not professional, incompetent, or both. This is especially disturbing to me considering that you are members of a professional program and, at least in theory, should be well educated. If you are capable of writing clearly and don't, then it indicates that you really don't care if people take you seriously.
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You have issues, deal with it. Is this better!!!!!!!!!!!
 
While we're on the topic of mcp-Boston. I've never been to Boston, is it possible if you are attending that school to live outside of the city? Is rent prohibitive? Is it practical or possible to drive into the city to go to the school everyday? Just curious.
 
1. mcp gives mcp a bad name
2. i don't feel like using caps
3. it is possible to live outside boston and commute in, i would suggest public transportation because parking here, espically near the school can be pretty tough. i have a car but leave it parked all week and take the bus in. the farther away you get from boston the rents drop. near the school expect to pay 800-1000 a person for rent (if you want to live in the basement of a building with without any windows, rent can be considerbly less), in alston, brighton, rent may be around 550-700 a person all depending on the number of roommates. some people make a 3 bedroom into a 4 by living in the living room and cut down rent futher.
 
Tuck said:
Is it a pre-requisite that people going to MCP cannot create a valid sentence? There is such a thing as capitalization and sentence structure. In an on-line forum you are judged not only about what you write, but how it is presented. When I see such poorly written posts I can't help but think that the person writing it is either not professional, incompetent, or both. This is especially disturbing to me considering that you are members of a professional program and, at least in theory, should be well educated. If you are capable of writing clearly and don't, then it indicates that you really don't care if people take you seriously.
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I was wondering the same thing. If we're going to be acting and talking about professionalism then maybe we should demonstrate it as well.
 
No need to take things the wrong way, but I know that I am not the only person who gets irritated when reading something that is written at the third grade level. I merely think that if you are a professional or a pre-professional you should take the time to act like it. It takes less than 30 seconds to proof read something as short as a forum post and it saves everyone else from having to read and interpret what is written. These are hardly the worst posts on the forums, but it just highlights the fact that writing poorly indcates a lack of courtesy to the rest of the people reading these forums. I don't really know how to say it in much nicer terms so this post will have somewhat of a negative bent. It is not meant for any one person, but as a general point of view. If you disagree and have some valid reasons feel free to make them known as I am always open to other points of view.
 
honestly, don't care. i don't proof read post and i'm not going to start. they arre just quick posts then i'm onto something else. if you don't like it, don't read it.
 
TotalKayOs said:
honestly, don't care. i don't proof read post and i'm not going to start. they arre just quick posts then i'm onto something else. if you don't like it, don't read it.
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obioswe, MCP was your bak up skool cause u dont no jack a bout professssionalism and proooof readin
 
Tuck said:
No need to take things the wrong way, but I know that I am not the only person who gets irritated when reading something that is written at the third grade level. I merely think that if you are a professional or a pre-professional you should take the time to act like it. It takes less than 30 seconds to proof read something as short as a forum post and it saves everyone else from having to read and interpret what is written. These are hardly the worst posts on the forums, but it just highlights the fact that writing poorly indcates a lack of courtesy to the rest of the people reading these forums.
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pot calling the kettle black 🙄
 
Not really. I never claimed infallibility, but I do tend to scan my posts to make sure that they are readable and contain a minimum of mistakes. I am not asking for perfection, especially on a forum, but readability is a big plus!
 
caverject,
i'm sorry you're from georgia but don't take it out on me.
 
TotalKayOs said:
caverject,
i'm sorry you're from georgia but don't take it out on me.
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Don't get angry at him because your posts are filled with negativity and full of grammatical and spelling errors.

By the way, living in a state and being from the same one can be two separate things, but thanks for playing anyway. 😎 Way to stereotype, too. 👍
 
TotalKayOs said:
caverject,
i'm sorry you're from georgia but don't take it out on me.
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as someone once said....

LIBERIANGIRL said:
You have issues, deal with it. Is this better!!!!!!!!!!!
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BTW, what does being in Georgia have to do with your post?
 
TotalKayOs said:
just curious if anyone here has any good studying tips. my problem is that i have a hard time just memorizing things. i'm better at figuring out and working out things. unfortunatly most of my schooling at mcp is strait memorizing. and good tips on how to memorize better? or any other study tips that might be of help. thanks.
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http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showpost.php?p=1146351&postcount=1

TotalKayOs said:
i go to MCP, and you will be better off not going here. i have been here for a year and a half and i hate it. i transfered in as a third year last year. most students here hate it. i really wish i went somewhere else. and now i can't transfere anywhere else or else i would have to repeat my thrird year. i kind you not. i hate it here and you should really try to go somewhere else. i can promise you it will better than here. and questions about the school just message me.
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http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showpost.php?p=1146336&postcount=5

Maybe the reason why you hate MCP so much and the quality of education is because they don't spoonfeed you enough? Is it possible to have a post from you that does not contain whining about how much MCP sucks?
 
Once upon a time there were three billy goats who wanted to cross the bridge and play on the other side of the meadow.
TotalKayOs said:
(trip trap. trip trap. trip trap.) Who is that WALKING ON MY BRIDGE!
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FutureRxGal said:
It is I. The little billy goat gruff.
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TotalKayOs said:
I am going to come up there and eat you!
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FutureRxGal said:
No, wait. My brother is coming behind me. And, he is much bigger and yunnier than I am.
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TotalKayOs said:
Oh, very well then.
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TotalKayOs said:
(Trip Trap. Trip Trap. Trip Trap.) Who is that WALKING ON MY BRIDGE!
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bananaface said:
It is I. The middle billy goat gruff.
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TotalKayOs said:
I am going to come up there and eat you!
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bananaface said:
No, wait. My brother is coming behind me. And, he is much bigger and yunnier than I am.
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TotalKayOs said:
Oh, very well then.
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TotalKayOs said:
(TRIP TRAP. TRIP TRAP. TRIP TRAP.) Who is that WALKING ON MY BRIDGE!
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Caverject said:
It is I. The big billy goat gruff.
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TotalKayOs said:
I am going to come up there and eat you! I'm not waiting for another billy goat!
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The troll emerged from under the bridge and was butted into the river by the big billy goat gruff, never to be seen again. From then on, the three billy goats played in the meadow on whatever side they chose.

/adapted from the classic tale
 
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