Average hours for M3 and M4 students

[PHARMD_Maybe?]

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I was curious as to the average hours a week students put in doing rotations during these years. Thanks to those that feel like posting.

 

[sacrament]

my own experience thus far... roughly speaking...
peds: 10-12 hrs/day, 6 days/wk (and overnight call q5)
surgery: 14-18 hrs/day, 6 days/wk (and overnight call q4)
psych: 5-8 hrs/day, 5 days/wk
family: 8-10 hrs/day, 5 days/wk
ob/gyn: 8-18 hrs/day, extremely variable depending on whether ob or gyn, inpatient or clinic
neuro: 8-10 hrs/day, 5 days/wk
medicine: 10-12 hrs/day, 6 days/wk (and overnight call q4)
medicine sub-I: 12-14 hrs/day, 6 days/wk (and overnight call q4)

 

[Ice-1]

I don't think there is a way to quantify hours except by individual experience. It all depends on the rotation, the location, the docs and what you want to expend in the way of effort on the particular rotation.

 

[sacrament]

I don't think there is a way to quantify hours except by individual experience. It all depends on the rotation, the location, the docs and what you want to expend in the way of effort on the particular rotation.

Of course, but personally I was interested in how my experiences have compared with those at other schools.

 

[livewires]

First of all, Sacrament is full of ****...flat out. You are not going to spend 14-18 hours per day, 6 days/week, with overnight call Q4 on ANY rotation...even the most grueling of surgery rotations. This would, at the least, have you at the hospital 94 hours per week. Forget it, this just doesn't happen at ANY hospital in the country. Bunch 'o bull-****. In my experience (and most other's), family, peds, medicine, and medicine subs tend to be more regular hours, about 45-60 hours per week. OB is always variable. Surgery can suck but you'll never be in the hospital more than 80 hours, and if you are by chance, just contact your local congressman/woman. IT'S ILLEGAL!!!

 

[doc05]

there's nothing illegal about a med student doing more than 80 hours/week in surgery or any other rotation.

acgme rules do not apply to med students since you don't actually have any real patient care responsibilities.

 

[Pox in a box]

First of all, Sacrament is full of ****...flat out. You are not going to spend 14-18 hours per day, 6 days/week, with overnight call Q4 on ANY rotation...even the most grueling of surgery rotations. This would, at the least, have you at the hospital 94 hours per week. Forget it, this just doesn't happen at ANY hospital in the country. Bunch 'o bull-****. In my experience (and most other's), family, peds, medicine, and medicine subs tend to be more regular hours, about 45-60 hours per week. OB is always variable. Surgery can suck but you'll never be in the hospital more than 80 hours, and if you are by chance, just contact your local congressman/woman. IT'S ILLEGAL!!!

Sacrament is right. You're wrong.

 

[Elysium]

First of all, Sacrament is full of ****...flat out. You are not going to spend 14-18 hours per day, 6 days/week, with overnight call Q4 on ANY rotation...even the most grueling of surgery rotations. This would, at the least, have you at the hospital 94 hours per week. Forget it, this just doesn't happen at ANY hospital in the country. Bunch 'o bull-****. In my experience (and most other's), family, peds, medicine, and medicine subs tend to be more regular hours, about 45-60 hours per week. OB is always variable. Surgery can suck but you'll never be in the hospital more than 80 hours, and if you are by chance, just contact your local congressman/woman. IT'S ILLEGAL!!!

Dude, you're a fvcking assclown. I've been dating sacrament throughout his entire third and fourth year and I can attest that he did indeed work these hours, every last one of them. On sugery he would go in at 4:30am and come home at 9pm (hmm...what it is that? Oh yeah, 16.5 hours!). You know how often he had call? q4! And he just finished his medicine sub-I. You know how often he had call? q4! He got in at 6am and would leave around 8pm. Hmm...what is that? Oh yeah, 14 hours! Same thing on medicine. Call? q4! There's no 80 hour work week on med students, you douche. If you don't have the same hours than you should just pat yourself on the back.

Loser.

 

[Elysium]

Sacrament is right. You're wrong.

👍

 

[sacrament]

First of all, Sacrament is full of ****...flat out. You are not going to spend 14-18 hours per day, 6 days/week, with overnight call Q4 on ANY rotation...even the most grueling of surgery rotations. This would, at the least, have you at the hospital 94 hours per week. Forget it, this just doesn't happen at ANY hospital in the country. Bunch 'o bull-****. In my experience (and most other's), family, peds, medicine, and medicine subs tend to be more regular hours, about 45-60 hours per week. OB is always variable. Surgery can suck but you'll never be in the hospital more than 80 hours, and if you are by chance, just contact your local congressman/woman. IT'S ILLEGAL!!!

I'm glad you had such a benevolent surgery rotation. It's too bad that you apparently didn't use that extra sleep time to meditate and reach inner peace. Since I have been relatively sleep-derived for the past year, you'll have to excuse me when I tell you to lick my ass.

 

[tigershark]

there's nothing illegal about a med student doing more than 80 hours/week in surgery or any other rotation.

acgme rules do not apply to med students since you don't actually have any real patient care responsibilities.

My school limits student hours to 6 am to 6 pm except on call which cant be more than q4 and we are supposed to leave by noon post-call.

Very few people stuck around for 12-18 hours a day unless they were poor test takers and were trying to compensate by sucking up to attendings....the majority of our grades were determined by the shelf exam so I would always leave at the first opportunity I got so that I could study.

 

[GoodMonkey]

First of all, Sacrament is full of ****...flat out. You are not going to spend 14-18 hours per day, 6 days/week, with overnight call Q4 on ANY rotation...even the most grueling of surgery rotations. This would, at the least, have you at the hospital 94 hours per week. Forget it, this just doesn't happen at ANY hospital in the country. Bunch 'o bull-****. In my experience (and most other's), family, peds, medicine, and medicine subs tend to be more regular hours, about 45-60 hours per week. OB is always variable. Surgery can suck but you'll never be in the hospital more than 80 hours, and if you are by chance, just contact your local congressman/woman. IT'S ILLEGAL!!!

hmmm no, he's right. i'm on surgery. i got in at 4:30 this morning and i got home at 7:30. what's that? 15? yeah. and the other two m3s on my surgery service keep the same hours.

 

[sacrament]

My school limits student hours to 6 am to 6 pm except on call which cant be more than q4 and we are supposed to leave by noon post-call.

Very few people stuck around for 12-18 hours a day unless they were poor test takers and were trying to compensate by sucking up to attendings....the majority of our grades were determined by the shelf exam so I would always leave at the first opportunity I got so that I could study.

We definitely have no firm hour limits for students, and probably an even bigger difference is that end-of-rotation exams count for hardly anything. On medicine I think it was worth 10%, for example. On two of our rotations the shelf didn't even count toward the grade, we just had to pass it in order to pass the clerkship. The rest is attending and resident evaluation. Therefore if the resident came in at 5 and left at 8, well, I did too. I don't think that's being a gunner, that's just trying to get by in a ridiculous and arbitrary grading system.

 

[sacrament]

And, btw, 18 hours/day wasn't a typical surgery day, though I certainly had a few. Scheduling more than one Whipple in a day can do that. But most days were in the 14-15-16 hour range.

And why isn't anybody mentioning the incredible fact that I had plenty of five hour days on psych? That seems abnormal to me. There were some days I was home in time to have lunch.

 

[maugham]

And, btw, 18 hours/day wasn't a typical surgery day, though I certainly had a few. Scheduling more than one Whipple in a day can do that. But most days were in the 14-15-16 hour range.

And why isn't anybody mentioning the incredible fact that I had plenty of five hour days on psych? That seems abnormal to me. There were some days I was home in time to have lunch.

Sacrament may be telling the truth about the hours he put in, but my sense is that he hardly represents the norm. Why so many six day weeks? Eighteen hour workdays are a rare occurrence for any physician, never mind a student. Just because there's no law against working over 80 hours per week for a medical student doesn't make these kind of hours reasonable to expect from a student. I'm always a little suspicious when people report how many hours they're in the hospital. Why keep track of this kind of thing anyway? It's not like you're getting paid by the hour as student. It comes off a little like bragging. And longer hours does not necessarily equate with better medical student. This isn't an endurance contest.

 

[Ice-1]

just trying to get by in a ridiculous and arbitrary grading system.

Amen to that!

 

[sacrament]

Sacrament may be telling the truth about the hours he put in, but my sense is that he hardly represents the norm. Why so many six day weeks? Eighteen hour workdays are a rare occurrence for any physician, never mind a student.

There were several six day weeks thoughout third year (because that's what the interns do), but everybody who is blowing things wildly out of proportion should kindly notice that I only reported truly malignant hours on one rotation. One of 'em. Yeah, I had a rough surgery rotation. I put in 90+ hours a week. But I was <80 hours/week on every other rotation, sometimes significantly so (except for maybe my sub-I when I toed the 80-hour line along with the resident, and four days out of ob/gyn when I did overnights on the ob ward that frequently lasted 15+ hours). Lots of 8 hour days sprinked around, as duly noted by my time ranges. Even a 10 or 12 hour day isn't particularly evil; that's been every non-medical job I've ever held, for God's sake. So I'm supposedly lying or bragging about my crazy, brutal 8-12 hour days? That's f-ing nothing, that's a standard job in medicine so get used to it. What I'm saying is JESUS CHRIST, it was five weeks out of my year that we're talking about here, gimme a break.

It comes off a little like bragging.

I thought it would be interesting to see what other people put in at the hospital. Apparently I have my answer: that other people's experiences are so different from mine that if I'm not clearly an outright liar, I'm at least a suspect character and probably a bragging gunner. So thanks for the memories and ciao. The OP can usefully glean from this several nuggets about both the variety of medical student experiences and their attitudes towards their peers.

 

[DrRichardKimble]

wow...

maybe everyone did spend too much time in the hospital, because an otherwise non-malignant post has turned into one bitchin' brawl.

 

[livewires]

I told Sacrament that he was a gunner and he had such kind words to say, I thought I'd share them with everyone. He writes, "Why don't you go ahead and post that in the thread like a man, and we can have a nice public flame-war where I can make you eat your dick in front of everybody." Seems like a very friendly guy doesn't he. First of all, if you are an MS III reading this thread, DON"T believe these rediculous hours. They just don't happen.

peds: 10-12 hrs/day, 6 days/wk (and overnight call q5) = 96 hours per week!!!

surgery: 14-18 hrs/day, 6 days/wk (and overnight call q4) = >100 hours per week!!!

medicine: 10-12 hrs/day, 6 days/wk (and overnight call q4) = 96 hours per week!!!

medicine sub-I: 12-14 hrs/day, 6 days/wk (and overnight call q4) = >100 hours per week!!!

One word...BULL****

 

[sacrament]

I told Sacrament that he was a gunner and he had such kind words to say, I thought I'd share them with everyone. He writes, "Why don't you go ahead and post that in the thread like a man, and we can have a nice public flame-war where I can make you eat your dick in front of everybody." Seems like a very friendly guy doesn't he. First of all, if you are an MS III reading this thread, DON"T believe these rediculous hours. They just don't happen.

peds: 10-12 hrs/day, 6 days/wk (and overnight call q5) = 96 hours per week!!!

surgery: 14-18 hrs/day, 6 days/wk (and overnight call q4) = >100 hours per week!!!

medicine: 10-12 hrs/day, 6 days/wk (and overnight call q4) = 96 hours per week!!!

medicine sub-I: 12-14 hrs/day, 6 days/wk (and overnight call q4) = >100 hours per week!!!

One word...BULL****

The reason why I told you to repeat your comments in this thread (which you have not done) rather than do so myself is because it's against the forum rules to publically post a private PM. But please, don't let that stop you. Rules are only for gunners like me, right? Let's do some remedial math for our d1ck-eating friend here, taking peds as an example, which I listed as 10-12 hours a day, 6 days a week.

Monday: 10 hours
Tuesday: 11 hours
Wednesday: 10 hours
Thursday: 12 hours
Friday: call-->24 hours
Saturday: off
Sunday: 10 hours

77 hours. +/- 3,4 hours or so on different weeks. (Don't know where the magical additional 24 hours came from.) Not exactly malignant. Even on medicine with call q4, they'll shrink days here and there so that over a month the weeks average out to around 80. If you think a 10-hour day is unbearly long, or an 80-hour week is only for gunners, consider a different profession.

If I'm a gunner, then you're barely even conscious. And why do I get the feeling that you calling me a gunner is like Pee-Wee Herman calling Michael Jackson one bad brotha from the street?

 

[sacrament]

wow...

maybe everyone did spend too much time in the hospital, because an otherwise non-malignant post has turned into one bitchin' brawl.

I don't know what you're talking about.

 

[P Diddy]

I told Sacrament that he was a gunner and he had such kind words to say, I thought I'd share them with everyone. He writes, "Why don't you go ahead and post that in the thread like a man, and we can have a nice public flame-war where I can make you eat your dick in front of everybody." Seems like a very friendly guy doesn't he. First of all, if you are an MS III reading this thread, DON"T believe these rediculous hours. They just don't happen.

simply put, you're an idiot, livewire.

at stanford med students get 2-4 days off per month. my sub-I on medicine would stay until 1900 at times on non-call days. the hours pile up - can you do the math for that?

where I went to med school in missouri, I would get up at 3:30 at times to round at 4:30 during my surgery rotation, and we would round again at 6:30 p.m, leaving at 7:00 (at least surgery rounds are quick). so a normal day was ~14 hrs. call was overnight Q3.

do you go to correspondence medical school?

P Diddy

 

[sacrament]

I'm going to go toe-to-toe with livewires re: who is the bigger gunner. In one corner you've got me and my outrageous 12-hour days. In the other corner you have livewires and:

Ya...I've decided to just play the game too and tell them whatever they want to hear. If you're stubborn and are honest and stick to your own goals, while making them public, you'll end up in the sea of mediocrity. Attendings seem to, for the most part, be extremely arrogant in one way or another, particularly in Surgery and they only want to be pampered by us petty little worthless med students. Right? Tell em whatever they want to hear, even if you have to come up with new carreer goals every four weeks. It will pay off when evals come out

 

[Pox in a box]

Both of you made the mistake that anyone other than you care. Take your argument private and put a lid on it.

 

[rxfudd]

Peds, 7:15 - 4:30 x5 days, Q4 call (not overnight, until about midnight)
Ob-gyn, 5:30/6 - 6/7 x6 days, no call (one week of night float)
Surgery, 5:15 - 7/8 x5-6 days, Q4 call
Medicine, 6-5 x5-6 days, Q4 call
Psych, 8-12/1 x5 days, two nights of call total
Family, 8:30-5 x5 days, two nights of call total (unusual, but true)

Totals: Peds 60 hrs/wk, OB 80 hrs/wk, surgery 90-95 hrs/wk, medicine 70 hrs/wk, psych 25 hrs/wk, family 45 hrs/wk

 

[CANES2006]

Peds, 7:15 - 4:30 x5 days, Q4 call (not overnight, until about midnight)
Ob-gyn, 5:30/6 - 6/7 x6 days, no call (one week of night float)
Surgery, 5:15 - 7/8 x5-6 days, Q4 call
Medicine, 6-5 x5-6 days, Q4 call
Psych, 8-12/1 x5 days, two nights of call total
Family, 8:30-5 x5 days, two nights of call total (unusual, but true)

Totals: Peds 60 hrs/wk, OB 80 hrs/wk, surgery 90-95 hrs/wk, medicine 70 hrs/wk, psych 25 hrs/wk, family 45 hrs/wk

This is pretty close to my work hours during third year too.

 

[LaughingGiraffe]

I've only had a month of surgery so far, and I had longer hours than many of my classmates, but I was generally in before five and out after seven, with call one night a week and an 8-10 hour day on the weekend.

My next two months of surgery will be easier, but on the harder rotations the residents and attendings know that the 80-hour limit does not apply to students, and folks at my school typically blow through 80 hours on the more intense rotations.

It has been tough spending so much time at the hospital, but otherwise it has been a fantastically rewarding rotation.

 

[kaos]

Good Lord I'm tired. It's been my first week, I'm finding myself arriving at the hospital at 6 am to preround and leaving about 6-7 pm. When I was on call I left at like 9 pm, partly because I only had one admission, she left the hospital (had a possible MI but wouldn't stay for anything because she just hated hospitals 🙄) and I needed another one. How in the world will I possibly find time or energy to study? 🙁 Though I guess I will be leaving earlier as time goes by and I get more efficient at different things.

 

[mudd99]

I don't realy understand the malignant nature of some of the previous replies, but from what I experienced I don't think that the hours mentioned are very far off. About the 80 hours, about half way through the year a few people in each rotation would have to fill out work hour forms because we were told that although there is no law limiting hours that we should not be working more than 80 hours. We were also usually expected to adhere to the 30 hour straight limit. We also did not have "overnight" call on rotations except OB because there is no call room for students, but on rotations like surgery I would be there until 3-4AM on call and would have to be in at 4:30 the next morning. Overall I think you should expect to spend 70-90 hours/wk on medicine, surgery, and OB. and 40-50 on neuro, psych, and FP depending on your school's call schedule.

P.S. We are the luckiest people in the world being able to practice medicine and someday actually be paid for it (Joe Damaggio has nothing on us) so remember to have some fun.

 

[redruby]

I don't start until this fall but when I was interviewing, a lot of the students made it sound like 3rd year is when you work your a** off but 4th year is relatively chill. But looking at these posts, it looks like you work the same amount both years?

 

[DrMom]

depends on the rotation.

Many people do a sub-I during MS4...and these have the longer hours. Other electives can be pretty cushy, though. 🙂

 

[ezmoney1]

how sweet, sacrament's girlfriend is taking up for him. 👍

 

[sacrament]

how sweet, sacrament's girlfriend is taking up for him. 👍

"Taking up?" Here in America we call it "putting out."

 

[Bounty]

"Taking up?" Here in America we call it "putting out."

oh dayam!

 

[kam730]

Sacrament may be telling the truth about the hours he put in, but my sense is that he hardly represents the norm. Why so many six day weeks? Eighteen hour workdays are a rare occurrence for any physician, never mind a student. .

At my school we are required to work 6 days a week except when on outpt peds, family medicine, and psych, and it is typical to go in at 4:30 and stay til 7 or even 8 when on surgery. Remember we are students, not physicians, and usually that means arriving much earlier to pre-round which is why in many cases the students put in more hours than the physicians.

 

[GenSurg]

On our surgery rotations, the medical students are not held to the 80 hour work week. Most good students are at the hospital before me and stay until I leave. We only had students take 5 calls for the month and would try to get them out at decent times. Third year med students have very few post-call responsibilities and can usually leave pretty early.

A 4th year sub-I will definately work 100-110 hours per week. If a sub-I leaves post call, they may miss out on working with the division chief. Where I went to medical school, surgery was a very tough rotation. They wanted to make sure you knew what you were getting into if you chose surgery as a career.

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[cyanocobalamin]

I was curious as to the average hours a week students put in doing rotations during these years. Thanks to those that feel like posting.

Peds/Medicine
Outpatient peds 9a to 4-5p M-F
Outpatient medicine 9a to 4-5p M-F
In peds 7:30a to 4-5p call about once a week, one weekend, call ends after your first H&P on call
Medicine 7:30a to 3-5p call about once a week, weekend if you wanted to; call is short call to 9p or 10p only

Ob/Gyn
Outpatient ob clinic 6a to 4-5p (included prerounding on L&D)
L&D 8 hours/day M-F either day or night shift
Gyn surg 6a to 3-5p
call: about once every 10 days and is short call to 9 or 10p only

Surgery
Amb surg 7:30a to 3-5p no call M-F
Inp surg 5a to 4-7p, call as many as you like to take, some people did just 0, 1 or 2, some more M-F, only rotation with overnight call

Psych
Inp psych 7:30a to 11a or noon M-F with some PM lectures, call about 1 per week to 9 or 10p only
Amb psych 9 to 5

FP
9a to 5p M-F no call

 

[fang]

From the details in some of his posts, I think that I go to the same school as sacrament. I just started 3rd year, but from talking to people, the hours he listed sound about right. I kept track-- I worked 86 hrs/ week on the ob-gyn rotation.

 

[Blade28]

My third year experience...

Medicine - 70-80 hr/wk
OB/GYN - 80-90 hr/wk
Surg - 85-100 hr/wk
FP - 60-65 hr/wk
Psych - 55-75 hr/wk
Peds - 75-85 hr/wk

Fourth year, unless I was doing one of my hardcore rotations (SICU, surg Sub-I), when I was averaging 80-90 hr/wk, it was a pretty easy year...usually around 40-45 hr/wk!

 

[Blade28]

Surgery can suck but you'll never be in the hospital more than 80 hours, and if you are by chance, just contact your local congressman/woman. IT'S ILLEGAL!!!

Unfortunately, ACGME or surgery RRC rules don't apply to med students (I found this out the hard way). During my 7-week G Surg rotation in my third year, there was a stretch when I worked 20 consecutive days without a day off. q3 overnight call. Post-call days weren't a guarantee. This made it easy to hit 90-95 hr/wk.

 

[SLUser11]

I agree 100% with maugham's post....most of my classmates that complain about their long hours have a hint of self-righteousness in their voice. As far as Sacrament goes, he may be telling the truth, but after a quick SDN search, I would guess that his 18 hour day is 2-3 hours patient care, and the other 15 or so is spent on this website (although I can't blame him....reading this stuff is a very guilty pleasure of my own).
My experience is that you can make yourself very busy if you want to, but it's not necessary. Plenty of students are working 90 hour weeks, but alot of them are either a) inefficient and thus require more time to get their work done, or b) have a self-imposed duty to hang around until 9pm making sure their patients get their labs drawn, have a good dinner, have something good to watch on the TV, etc. It's not usually the attendings or the housestaff making you stay.
I worked hard during third year, but I have time management skills, so I still got to eat lunch most every day, and enjoy a life outside of the hospital, even during surgery.

Man, I hope Sacrament doesn't make me eat my own d*ck in front of everybody 🙁

 

[Chris's patient]

Dude, you're a fvcking assclown. I've been dating sacrament throughout his entire third and fourth year and I can attest that he did indeed work these hours, every last one of them. On sugery he would go in at 4:30am and come home at 9pm (hmm...what it is that? Oh yeah, 16.5 hours!). You know how often he had call? q4! And he just finished his medicine sub-I. You know how often he had call? q4! He got in at 6am and would leave around 8pm. Hmm...what is that? Oh yeah, 14 hours! Same thing on medicine. Call? q4! There's no 80 hour work week on med students, you douche. If you don't have the same hours than you should just pat yourself on the back.

Loser.

Elysium is a dude

 

[DrFlower]

Wow, what happened to this thread? Sacrament and Livewires, shame on both of you for taking this out of hand. All the OP wanted to get a gist of was general hours, so all you had to do was post your experiences!! There are enough things to be worried about as an M3 without taking part in on-line petty arguments. 😛

 

[Blake]

Online drama is fun. *eats popcorn*

Anyway, Sacrament is probably right. I've spent some time lately with a bunch of MS4s and they have similar hectic schedules.

 

[NMH2001]

Dude, you're a fvcking assclown. I've been dating sacrament throughout his entire third and fourth year and I can attest that he did indeed work these hours, every last one of them. On sugery he would go in at 4:30am and come home at 9pm (hmm...what it is that? Oh yeah, 16.5 hours!). You know how often he had call? q4! And he just finished his medicine sub-I. You know how often he had call? q4! He got in at 6am and would leave around 8pm. Hmm...what is that? Oh yeah, 14 hours! Same thing on medicine. Call? q4! There's no 80 hour work week on med students, you douche. If you don't have the same hours than you should just pat yourself on the back.

Loser.

What exactly IS an Assclown???

 

[sacrament]

I agree 100% with maugham's post....most of my classmates that complain about their long hours have a hint of self-righteousness in their voice. As far as Sacrament goes, he may be telling the truth, but after a quick SDN search, I would guess that his 18 hour day is 2-3 hours patient care, and the other 15 or so is spent on this website (although I can't blame him....reading this stuff is a very guilty pleasure of my own).

If it took me 15 hours a day to post, on average, 4.88 times, that would be sad indeed. There have been weeks in a row during 3rd year that I never even looked at SDN, let alone posted.

It's not usually the attendings or the housestaff making you stay.

I love leaving the hospital. I love being at home. I don't do extra reading on patients, I don't pour through their past records... I barely keep up with their recent records. I've been burnt out since the second week of third year. If I cared any less about making a good impression, I would take a leak in a patient's bedpan during morning rounds. Believe me, I don't spent one second more time in the hospital than is absolutely required.

Man, I hope Sacrament doesn't make me eat my own d*ck in front of everybody 🙁

Keep your fingers crossed.

 

[sacrament]

All the OP wanted to get a gist of was general hours, so all you had to do was post your experiences!!

Don't you mean: all you have to do is post your experiences and then be assaulted by strangers for being either a lying sack-of-sh1t or a smarmy gunner?

Here, I'll start all over again so we can all be friends:

I worked, on average, 12 hours a week. On surgery I wandered in around noon and took an hour-long crap in the OR locker room before my tea break. Ob/gyn was only three days a week, and one of them we would spend at the water park. I actually did my medicine rotation from home. I logged up to 20 hours a week on psych, but that's because I counted the time I spent studying personality disorders on SDN.

 

[sacrament]

Elysium is a dude

My weiner would beg to differ.

 

[automaton]

i put in like 80 hrs a week.
peds had crappy hours, like 6:30 to 6pm, 6 days a week, weekends are lighter but no guarantee.
surgery not much worse surprisingly. 5:30 to 8pm. or 5:30 to 6pm. 6 days a week, weekends sometimes lighter, sometimes worse.
i think my school is pretty benign, probably because we bitch to the administration a lot, god bless their hearts.

 

[loveumms]

I feel kinda lucky after reading some of these posts ... my school takes it seemingly easy on us.

My surgery hours vary from:
4:30 am - 5 pm
6 am - 6 or 7 pm

We take call about once a week during our longer blocks.

I have not worked a weekend yet ... most of the interns/residents tell us not to (since not much really goes on during the weekends).

Trauma is a little different (we do two weeks). Its q3 and pretty intense but besides that the rest of surgery seems to be slightly laid back in comparision to what others have posted.

Not really sure about the other rotations but I hear that internal med is even more time in the hospital.