Average Salaries

[chordata]

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Just in case anyone was curious...I found a link that details the average salaries of 401 different jobs. It provides information about the average number of hours worked in a year and the average hourly wage earned.

http://www.bizjournals.com/specials/2006/0313/401_jobs.html?hbx=slide_pay_article

 

[syn_apse]

way off! the average dentist makes much more than $85K and works much less than physicians!

 

[docious]

I'd be interested in to what kind of sample size they took.

I"m working in PR now, and unless you own (prosperous) agency... ain't NO WAY you're making more than a dentist.

...and since when did teachers become such a lucrative profession? Go to your local high school... i highly doubt you'll see any of them rollin' on dubs

 

[Yah-E]

Dude, I knew I should've gone into an "announcer" job!

This survey has lawyers and optometrists above us! Are you fcuking kidding me? What a joke. I would take this survey and printed out and wipe my @ss with it and flush it down the toilet! 👍

 

[chordata]

Not that I'm defending the article but it used the Dept of Labor Statistics to compile their results. (I'm guessing that this data is fairly realistic of the nation...which includes all cities i.e. towns where dentists earn less than 40,000.)

Also, this is for full-time, private sector jobs. (A physics teacher working in the private sector is definitely going to be roling in the dough compared to a teacher working in the public sector.)

 

[EyeAmCommi]

This list is for 401K compensation. Don't you only have 401K accounts if you work for someone else? If this assumption is true, this group of dentists only include the ones doing public health and military so the figure is totally f*ked up

 

[chordata]

You need to read the title a little more closely...It is a ranking of 401 occupations not occupations ranked by their 401k.

This list is for 401K compensation. Don't you only have 401K accounts if you work for someone else? If this assumption is true, this group of dentists only include the ones doing public health and military so the figure is totally f*ked up

 

[AZR111]

In largely populated metropolitan areas I have that a dentist can make on average close to 200 dollars an hour . Multiply that by a 40 hour work week and you're looking at 384,000 dollars a year .. before taxes ofcourse.

thanks.

 

[EyeAmCommi]

You need to read the title a little more closely...It is a ranking of 401 occupations not occupations ranked by their 401k.

Oh okay, I just read the title, thought SALARIED WORKERS, and went to go look for "dentists."

Yea dentists don't make any money. Don't go into dentistry chordata, it's the worst investment possible.

 

[whiskeysour]

Just in case anyone was curious...I found a link that details the average salaries of 401 different jobs. It provides information about the average number of hours worked in a year and the average hourly wage earned.

http://www.bizjournals.com/specials/2006/0313/401_jobs.html?hbx=slide_pay_article

airline pilots.... $128k/year....LOL.

airline pilots start @ $20k/year and are lucky to AVERAGE that much now-a-days. the salary survey is wayyyyyy off. $85k/year sounds about right for an associate ??

 

[BallDontLie]

when i saw that 85K number i knew this thread would get **** on almost immediately

 

[chordata]

I never said dentists don't make money nor did I say it wasn't profitable. I was just presenting a bit of compiled data for others to view...I'd be more than happy to make 60,000 as a dentist where I live. (In fact a salary of $85,000 would allow my family a quite comfortable life in a 3000+ sq ft home...which is way more than I could ever ask for or want.)

Oh okay, I just read the title, thought SALARIED WORKERS, and went to go look for "dentists."

Yea dentists don't make any money. Don't go into dentistry chordata, it's the worst investment possible.

 

[chordata]

As I sit here defending something I have no vested interest in and said I wasn't going to defend, I do find it pretty funny how quick people are to judge things without completely interpretting all the data presented/info presented. (If people only read all of the information instead of just looking at 1 number they would probably get a better picture of how these values were determined.) Hopefully, this trend won't continue after dental school. If someone complains about a toothache...please don't just assume the tooth needs to be pulled. Try to do a little bit of investigative analysis...I'm sure you're patients would be highly appreciative.

For example airline pilots...the site provides the criteria used for determining their average salary.

when i saw that 85K number i knew this thread would get **** on almost immediately

 

[syn_apse]

i find it funny when people read way too much into other people's posts 🙄

As I sit here defending something I have no vested interest in and said I wasn't going to defend, I do find it pretty funny how quick people are to judge things without completely interpretting all the data presented/info presented. (If people only read all of the information instead of just looking at 1 number they would probably get a better picture of how these values were determined.) Hopefully, this trend won't continue after dental school. If someone complains about a toothache...please don't just assume the tooth needs to be pulled. Try to do a little bit of investigative analysis...I'm sure you're patients would be highly appreciative.

For example airline pilots...the site provides the criteria used for determining their average salary.

 

[chordata]

Me too! 🙂

i find it funny when people read way too much into other people's posts 🙄

 

[coolraz]

Yes dentistry is so poorly paid. I'm switching out of it right now and becoming an airline pilot! I was in it for the money anyway so now that I know it's only 85k a year, it's not worth it.


: )

 

[tinman831]

Here's the stats from the U.S. Department of Labor

http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_00Al.htm

🙂

 

[EyeAmCommi]

Here's the stats from the U.S. Department of Labor

http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_00Al.htm

🙂

This is more like it!

 

[dexadental]

I definitely agree, as my uncle banks much more than that, works three days a week, and has become more of a manager of his three offices than doing the actual dental work. The opportunities in dentistry are endless.

 

[BallDontLie]

It sure puts things into perspective when you see that opening page - All Occupations = $37,440

 

[Dukie]

That number is likely off, but in case you were wondering, airline pilots do make great money. Captains of major planes (747s, for example), all make six figures. You wouldn't want to be on a plane with an inexperienced pilot. Basically, a position with a lot of risk and responsibility often pays well.

 

[786mine]

bartenders making only $13k a year? that's got to be a joke. I know two part time bartenders that make over $30k in just one job.

 

[whiskeysour]

That number is likely off, but in case you were wondering, airline pilots do make great money. Captains of major planes (747s, for example), all make six figures. You wouldn't want to be on a plane with an inexperienced pilot. Basically, a position with a lot of risk and responsibility often pays well.

i don't want to turn this into a petty argument, but pilots are maybe the most underpaid occupation around. i, at one time, wanted to be a pilot, but after much research i found that it is a dead-end profession. that 747 captain pay is deteriorating and those jobs are few and far between today.

i still read the airline pilot forums, and find it comforting that i have chosen to go into dentistry after reading posts from these "747 captains"...

"Be careful what you wish for! I wouldnt recommend this career to anyone. I love flying, but I wish I had a good paying, steady, 9-5 job with stablity. I live like a nomad and have pennies. Maybe someday I will have a nice 75k a year corporate job flying. But I will be 35 years old. Most of my friends are in their late 20's with nice houses, wifes, and cars."

"Realize that your entire career and quality of life from training to "retirement" will depend on access to easy credit, since you won't really make much money. Take a break from the drums for a weekend and seriously think about how practical it will be to live on $40,000 or less for the rest of your life. The wages you see today, as bad as they are, are likely to be the highest they will ever be. If you look at this job realistically and throw out all the nostalgia and stereotypes about the Captains with the Harleys and the sailboats, and realize what you are getting into is a job with about the same salary and benefits as a department manager at K-Mart, then you may escape the disillusionment that many here are facing. "

"I can't recommend anyone to get into this business today. The economics are such that salaries and benefits will continue to experience significant downward pressure because the blood sucking public wants cheap tickets and doesn't care if it results in an entire industry of working poor. I know that is strikingly harsh rhetoric, but it is for the most part true. I am 40 years old with 2 children, and feel very little security looking forward."

and MY FAVORITE..

"Its a better direction to become a dentist or an accountant or somethin. Then you will be able to afford to fly for fun..." lol

ok, i'll get off my box now. needless to say, after all my research it appears dentistry is a career that can offer a very high quality of life and an earning potential second to none.

 

[drengineer]

Yes dentistry is so poorly paid. I'm switching out of it right now and becoming an airline pilot! I was in it for the money anyway so now that I know it's only 85k a year, it's not worth it.


: )

Yeah me too. There's at least one more seat opening up guys. goodluck.

 

[STARCITY]

Just in case anyone was curious...I found a link that details the average salaries of 401 different jobs. It provides information about the average number of hours worked in a year and the average hourly wage earned.

http://www.bizjournals.com/specials/2006/0313/401_jobs.html?hbx=slide_pay_article

If I found out for sure that dentists only made 85k I would not go to dental school, I promise.

That would freakin suck.

 

[llGSll K9]

airline pilots.... $128k/year....LOL.

airline pilots start @ $20k/year and are lucky to AVERAGE that much now-a-days. the salary survey is wayyyyyy off. $85k/year sounds about right for an associate ??

i think that figure they have for pilots is about right 🙂 not to say that there arent pilots who make 30-40k/yr

 

[STARCITY]

i think that figure they have for pilots is about right 🙂 not to say that there arent pilots who make 30-40k/yr

85 for an associate and having to pay $200,000 for a house, $200,000 for dental school loans, $50,000 for two cheap cars.

wow, dentistry is sounding worse everyday.

 

[Da Bomb]

85k avg for an associate straight is spot on. The only associates that are making a ton more than that are associates who have decided to be a long term associate and never open their own practice. the are faster than the new graduate, produce more, have better payment plan due to long term association with the owner and thus make more. An associate at a high end practice in LA can make $200+.
Remember folks dentists make money with experience. You earn your salary based on production not for just being a dentist. You can make as little or as much as your ability allows you to. If you are crappy at what you do you will make less than 85K your entire life.
That said. The original stats posted are def those of associates and not owner dentists. If you factor in the owners or just average the owner income and not the associates you are pushing mid to high 100's easy.
Note to all pre-dents: Dont expect to make that kind of money until you have been out a few years. Expect maybe 60K to 80K your first year out...

 

[STARCITY]

85k avg for an associate straight is spot on. The only associates that are making a ton more than that are associates who have decided to be a long term associate and never open their own practice. the are faster than the new graduate, produce more, have better payment plan due to long term association with the owner and thus make more. An associate at a high end practice in LA can make $200+.
Remember folks dentists make money with experience. You earn your salary based on production not for just being a dentist. You can make as little or as much as your ability allows you to. If you are crappy at what you do you will make less than 85K your entire life.
That said. The original stats posted are def those of associates and not owner dentists. If you factor in the owners or just average the owner income and not the associates you are pushing mid to high 100's easy.
Note to all pre-dents: Dont expect to make that kind of money until you have been out a few years. Expect maybe 60K to 80K your first year out...

da bomb is a TROLL.

Look at his postings total!!!

Did you just log on to cause trouble? 80k Starting salary? Get a life.

 

[Yah-E]

Expect maybe 60K to 80K your first year out...

Sorry to make you explode, but majority of my classmates now are getting over 6 figures contracts starting! Now, that's this year! Last year, all the seniors that I spoke with, they were all landing sweet deals also!

60K to start, dude, you're planting your bombs in the wrong places!

80K would be my lowest limit and also some of the lowest offers I heard.

 

[drengineer]

Sorry to make you explode, but majority of my classmates now are getting over 6 figures contracts starting! Now, that's this year! Last year, all the seniors that I spoke with, they were all landing sweet deals also!

60K to start, dude, you're planting your bombs in the wrong places!

80K would be my lowest limit and also some of the lowest offers I heard.

I trust Yah-E. His salary figures sound sweet to the ears 😉

 

[Da Bomb]

da bomb is a TROLL.

Look at his postings total!!!

Did you just log on to cause trouble? 80k Starting salary? Get a life.

Not a troll am I. Naive you are. How do you not believe that you are payed based on production. Are you telling me that you can earn upwards of 100K you first year out when you are not even that fast yet. You will probably make about 33% of your production. So you will have to produce a little over 300K that first year. For a slow recent graduate that is a ton of production. Just because you dont like what you hear does not make it un true. Sure Yah-E has friends with offers (not salaries) that could result in over 100K a year but they are not going to see that money if they do not produce.

I may be wrong and if I am please explain to me how one can make over 100K a year if they cant produce enough to cover expenses. I dont think the practice is going to take a hit just because you are a nice guy and they enjoy having work for them.

 

[3rdMolarRoller]

my bro-n-law (2nd year out) made $155k last year. First year out he made $115k

he's not the fastest guy in the world, hell he barely made graduation on time with requirements.

His location, southeast

 

[3rdMolarRoller]

On a side note, this Heartland dental chain is in our school doing some lunch'n'learn stuff and they are giving new grads $120k start.

Even though they are a dental mill, 6 figures is not hard to make if you work at it

 

[Da Bomb]

On a side note, this Heartland dental chain is in our school doing some lunch'n'learn stuff and they are giving new grads $120k start.

Even though they are a dental mill, 6 figures is not hard to make if you work at it

You will have to let us know how much production is expected to make that $. I ma interested in hearing how many patients a day and how many days a week they want you to work.

 

[rambo2006]

29-1021 Dentists, General $132,660
29-1022 Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeons $169,600
29-1023 Orthodontists $153,240
29-1024 Prosthodontists $156,710
29-1029 Dentists, All Other Specialists $106,040 % <--What the Hell is is?


These numbers seem closer to home but I bet if they showed the standard variation it would be high because some dentists make a lot more money the the average. I would like to find out what the median is.

 

[STARCITY]

Not a troll am I. Naive you are. How do you not believe that you are payed based on production. Are you telling me that you can earn upwards of 100K you first year out when you are not even that fast yet. You will probably make about 33% of your production. So you will have to produce a little over 300K that first year. For a slow recent graduate that is a ton of production. Just because you dont like what you hear does not make it un true. Sure Yah-E has friends with offers (not salaries) that could result in over 100K a year but they are not going to see that money if they do not produce.

I may be wrong and if I am please explain to me how one can make over 100K a year if they cant produce enough to cover expenses. I dont think the practice is going to take a hit just because you are a nice guy and they enjoy having work for them.

T R O L L !

 

[ItsGavinC]

Are you telling me that you can earn upwards of 100K you first year out when you are not even that fast yet. You will probably make about 33% of your production. So you will have to produce a little over 300K that first year. For a slow recent graduate that is a ton of production.

Hardly. That's 6-7 fillilngs a day. Not at all a ton of production.

 

[STARCITY]

Hardly. That's 6-7 fillilngs a day. Not at all a ton of production.

Gavin is this guy pullin our legs?

WHAT DO DENTISTS START OUT AT AFTER SCHOOL?

I really want to get a true idea.

80,000 would dissapoint me greatly.

 

[crazy_sherm]

Gavin is this guy pullin our legs?

WHAT DO DENTISTS START OUT AT AFTER SCHOOL?

I really want to get a true idea.

80,000 would dissapoint me greatly.

Depends on the area. If you really want to know, do your own legwork. Start calling around and ask recent grads what they're making.

 

[Dr. Dai Phan]

Hi there,

I am suprised to see that actors and directors made less than dentists !!! So that means that those Hollywood actors must have done something else besides acting like being druglords or pimp kings or something... DP

 

[vaio]

You will have to let us know how much production is expected to make that $. I ma interested in hearing how many patients a day and how many days a week they want you to work.

your avatar is quite disturbing...unprofessional to say the least

 

[geckel]

your avatar is quite disturbing...unprofessional to say the least

I agree. Da Bomb, why don't you select a more professional avatar that reflects your respect for this field like I have ?
Seriously though.........all I see is a bomb in his avatar. What's the big deal with that? Is there something that I'm not seeing? There are plenty of less desirable avatars on this site such as bigbottomgirl's........she pasted a picture of a big chested girl off of an adult friend finders advertisement (then she let everyone talk about how sexy she looked............loser! ).

 

[STARCITY]

I agree. Da Bomb, why don't you select a more professional avatar that reflects your respect for this field like I have ?
Seriously though.........all I see is a bomb in his avatar. What's the big deal with that? Is there something that I'm not seeing? There are plenty of less desirable avatars on this site such as bigbottomgirl's........she pasted a picture of a big chested girl off of an adult friend finders advertisement (then she let everyone talk about how sexy she looked............loser! ).

How about some of you tellin me what dentists in North Carolina make starting out in Charlotte, NC.


Legwork? I don't know any grads in NC that could tell me this info not to mention they would probably tell me to go to hell for being nosey.

 

[STARCITY]

I looked on dentaltown.com but nobody tells their compensation package.


Where will I find this info?

 

[STARCITY]

I found this ad in the state that I am going to school. However, I would like to know what Charlotte, NC pays........


Name: G. Stollings and Assoc., Inc.
Phone: 304-486-5714
Location: Canaan Valley Area, West Virginia, US
Email: [email protected]
Title: Associate Position -- Ski Country WV
Amount:
Description: Associate Position: Canaan Valley Area, WV. First year income potential $100,000+. Abundant outdoor recreation, near fishing, mountain biking, hiking, hunting and snow skiing. Great small town life. E-mail: [email protected], or call 304-486-5714 for details.
Date Posted: 2/28/2006
Photo: No photo available

 

[STARCITY]

Heres a non-profit job that pays 115,000 in NC !!!

general/specialty general dentistry
brief description Non-profit community health center seeking a dentist to provide care and manage dental practices. We receive federal funding to provide care to all people regardless of ability to pay. The successful candidate will have a passion and commitment to ensuring access to dental care. Possible loan repayment for new grads.
position type permanent (full-time)
special skills desired *Management skills *Bilingual preferred (Spanish) *Mission-driven individual who cares about the underserved.
years experience desired entry-to-experienced
compensation $ 115000

benefits

city/county Halifax County
state NC
staff size 6-10 staff

 

[STARCITY]

One in NY but it prefers 5 years experience.


Name: Dr. Moskowitz
Phone: 518-798-9561
Location: Queensbury, New York, US
Email: [email protected]
Title: Dentist
Amount: $300,000/year
Description: Associate dentist needed for busy family practice. Minutes from Albany and Saratoga. 5 years experience preferred. See our practice at www.sensationalsmile.com Call Sarit at 518-798-9561
Date Posted: 3/12/2006

 

[STARCITY]

fresh grad for this job in PA !!!


Name: moshannon valley family dentis
Phone: 8143787479
Location: houtzdale, Pennsylvania, US
Email: [email protected]
Title: ASSOCITE NEEDED ASAP NEW GRAD
Amount: over $100,000
Description: NEED ASSOCIATE ASAP FOR BUSY PRACTICE .BUY IN OPTION ....GREAT SALARY AND BONUS OR 35 TO 40 PERCENT OF COLLECTIONS
Date Posted: 2/28/2006

 

[STARCITY]

WOW NEw Mexico pays well !!!

Name: Mountain View Dental
Phone: 505-437-7900
Location: Alamogordo, New Mexico, US
Email: [email protected]
Title: Dentist Wanted

Amount: 125,000 to 150,000
Description: Full time Dentist position available in a beautiful new 12 operatory dental practice, located in rural area of Southern New Mexico.

New Graduates Welcome.

We are in a nice family community close to hiking, skiing, hunting, and fishing. "Year Round Golfing" is also here for your enjoyment. The office is paperless and is completely computerized, includng digital X-Rays. If you are looking for an outstanding opportunity with a four day work week and a starting salary of $125,000 to $150,000, please contact Debbie @ (505) 437-7900. Fax resume to (505) 437-7922 or e-mail to [email protected].