They don't really have control over individual schools. Especially since some schools already accept way more than others. They do have control over the new schools that are opening since they can not accredit them.
How often do the schools that are accredited have to go through the process. It seems like there should be some influence, even if its delayed and not direct.
They go through an inspection process (I think it's every 7 years). But still, the AVMA has very little control over student number, just on quality of education received.
The school is always going to want more students because it means more money, so there needs to be a set of checks and balances somewhere built into the system. Just trying to understand all the factors at play. What controls the number of students a school accepts?
Not true. Utk stopped increasing the class size at 85 simply because of the saturation of the market. At some point you have to hire more instructors to give quality education to more students. Same with hospital size. So there are limits
And opened the door for more.
I guess this makes sense. To be able to control the quantity could have adverse affects. I just feel like there is some aspect of the checks and balances system that is not working properly. Am I missing something?
To do research as a vet, you're going to need to be trained as a research scientist in addition to being trained as a clinician. That is going to require further education, i.e. a phd and a postdoc and +/- a residency. I have no idea how competitive it is to get a job as a veterinary researcher but I would imagine it's as dismal as getting any academic job.
Right, I would go into aPhD program right after vet school (or during, god willing). I was just hoping that there might be even a fraction easier to find a job in research than in practice.
Thanks for the info. Looks like my passion has an even more grim prospect :/
This concerns me quite a bit. It's already less competitive to get into vet school and moving in the wrong direction. A competitive environment to get in is healthy for the system.
Which school don't have them? Is the quality of the education really as good at schools that don't have one versus those that do? (I realize this is subjective).
Not 100% sure on the other schools, but I wanted to point out that Midwestern actually does have a teaching hospital (we toured it during interviews). There has yet to be a class go through clinical rotations obviously, but the facility itself is just about up and running, and looking really nice, too.
I guess this is what I was getting at. I mean if you are farming out to other teaching hospitals that's one thing. If you are farming out to local clinics, you have a lot less control. I would think you'd have a larger variety and chance to see more at a teaching hospital for your clinic experience. Not that a few community rotations don't have their advantages...
Not necessarily. As a student, especially on rotations, a lot of our instruction and supervision was by interns and residents who may or may not have any desire to or have the ability to teach. Many of our AVC interns and residents were good and wanted to teach but a few were obviously only there to finish their program and couldn't have given two ****s about teaching students.
Same. For instance, when the COE inspects a school, they go through the whole physical facility. For schools that use a distributed/comunity model, do they also physically inspect all individual clinics associated with it?
