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Lindbergjb

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I know that some people think dentistry will tweak on the back and neck, which it might, but i really can only laugh when others are freaking out about this. This is a very easy job( physically speaking) compared to others out there. I am going to have to say that landscaping and working in a factory are much much harder. My dad worked his ass off at Anderson Windows, and he makes me work for a landscaper just so i wont make the same mistake that he did. I can tell you right now dentistry is a cake job compared to that. I am in high school but i have over 40 hrs of observation and i can tell you i would be able to do this until i was 90 not only because it is easy to do physically, but also because it is one of the most funnest jobs i can think of doing that i can do for a long time. This just stuck a nerve for me so don't be offended.
 
Nobody said it was more physically demanding than construction...however, when you wash/install windows or do other forms of manual labor, you get to move. With dentistry, you are stuck in an awkward position for lengthy periods of time...a position that stresses a reasonably acute area. It is foolish of you to disregard warnings of those who have worked in the profession for years...nobody was demeaning your daddy or his job, try not to be so sensitive.

It is further foolish to assume that the job is easy to perform physically, even more foolish to assume that it is easier than landscaping...it is great that you found a profession you think you will enjoy and your confidence is admirable...but don't overestimate yourself or underestimate the profession...it may hinder you from amply preparing for both admission to school and for the rigors you will face while in school
 
i always get a kick out of people who think dentistry is the easiest profession in the world. you get to set your own hours, it's a cake walk physically and you will be rolling in the dough right? WRONG. some people have a natural predisposition to bad backs (myself included, inherited from my dad) and being hunched over for extended periods of time is undoubtedly tiring for any individual (however more so for others). i am actually working in construction as my summer job this year and it's not even THAT bad on my back. i can tell you that leaning over for extended periods of time is 100 times worse on my back then my 12 hour+ days.

dentistry is a profession that is demanding both physically and mentally (you often deal with many apprehensive and anxious individuals and this can affect some people). before glorifying the profession, step back and look at the job more closely. if you think 40 hours of shadowing has sufficiently given you a good idea of what the profession is like, i'd encourage you to do some more shadowing and to ask some questions instead of making assumptions.
 
I am in high school but i have over 40 hrs of observation and i can tell you i would be able to do this until i was 90 not only because it is easy to do physically, but also because it is one of the most funnest jobs i can think of doing that i can do for a long time. This just stuck a nerve for me so don't be offended.

I'm not offended, but go home, sit for a few hours with minimal movement (basically mimic what you see your dentist do) and you will feel worse than after a day of construction work. I do agree with you on the dentistry and fun opinion. I love it too.
 
ergonomics is really important...and dentistry is really taxing. I think ergonomics is a class in some schools 1st year...
 
Please don't take my comment as argumentative, because I am not trying to be. I am just pointing things out from a perspective other than your own.

first of all, you havae no experience what so ever. 40 hours of observation? That doesn't give you any room to make an educated comment about this subject. Observing gives you no clue in this matter. You actually have to do the dental work to experience it.

There is a reason why people complain about back problems in dentistry. It involves physics - leverage and forces. Think of each vertebra as a fulcrum and the upper body as the weight that gravity is working on. If a dentist utilizes loupes and stays in proper posture, then gravity only works in line with the spine. But when improper posture (bent over) is used, there are great forces applied for many hours each day in a manner tht the spine was not designed for. Over time, the spine will begin to breakdown from its natural position - bone remodeling and disk bulging and herniation. This can / will lead to pinched spinal nerves and in worst cases affect the spinal cord. Although this posture did not involve lifting additional weight other than the dentist's body, the posture over time causes the problems to occur. You may feel people are whining because they didn't do manual labor, but they have legitimate reasons to be complaining. The results of bad posture are very painful and debilitating. These results are the exact same results that can result from a person who does manual labor for a living. The manual labor workers who have bad backs usually are injured because of usng incorrect lifting or they are hunched over on their hands and knees as what a person who does landscaping does. This hunched over position has the same forces applied as what a dentist experiences.

You are in high school now. You are invincible. Your body can handle things that your body CANNOT handle as you grow up. I am right at 35 years old. Although I put on a few pounds this year, I have led a very actve life. I have participated in many sports (baseball, football, snow skiing, bicycling, marathons, triathlons) and worked in back breaking jobs in a lumber yard and as a certified nurses aide in a nursing home. During those times, I had no problems putting my body in positions that are not considered safe. I would work out at the gym and power lift to train for snow ski season (racing). I would do dead lifts regularly without a problem. Now, I have out I am not so invincible. The forces that ad posture puts on a back causes me to experience pain some days. I don't sit around complaining. I use proper technique most of the time because it helps out a lot. When you get older (twice your age like me), you will realize that you are not as tough and invicible as you thought. If you use (as a dentist) improper technique just as a person who works a manual labor job who uses improper technique does and has back problems, then you too will have a bad back one day.
Well said. Isn't it funny we all think we're invincible and sometimes even take things for granted and abuse it when we were in high school? One day, we realize no matter how strong we feel, we're just human.
 
http://www.spineuniverse.com/displayarticle.php/article1407.html

OP, you might want to check out this article as well as the book that is mentioned at the end: Ergonomics and the Dental Care Worker. Denise Murphy, MD (Editor). American Public Health Association, Washington, DC. October 1998.

You're in high school, you should have plenty of time to read that book.
 
Nobody said it was more physically demanding than construction...however, when you wash/install windows or do other forms of manual labor, you get to move. With dentistry, you are stuck in an awkward position for lengthy periods of time...a position that stresses a reasonably acute area. It is foolish of you to disregard warnings of those who have worked in the profession for years...nobody was demeaning your daddy or his job, try not to be so sensitive.

It is further foolish to assume that the job is easy to perform physically, even more foolish to assume that it is easier than landscaping...it is great that you found a profession you think you will enjoy and your confidence is admirable...but don't overestimate yourself or underestimate the profession...it may hinder you from amply preparing for both admission to school and for the rigors you will face while in school

God I love you, Perfectly Stated.👍
 
Lindbergjb,

I had back surgery from a football injury in high school. I worry about how much stress I am going to put on it being a Dentist, EVERYDAY.
 
I was a surf instructor for the past 3 years. VERY physically demanding. We had a half mile paddle to the surf break, and I'd be towing 200lb men all the way there and back. I'm a month and a half into dental school and my neck is strained, my back hurts and I'm in physical therapy. Sitting still in one position sucks. It's not exciting, and it still works your body. People worry about it for a reason. You are in high school, you are still young and made out of elastic, and think you know everything. That will change...but you still have at least 6 years to go.
 
ruptured cervical disc here.

The thing to remember about physically demanding jobs...like one of my past ones where I unloaded palates of 50-100 lb boxes of clay and dry materials for 4-8 hours a day...is that if you do it right...you won't get hurt. But another major part is that you get exercise while you work so your back and neck muscles get stronger and thus less prone to injury of the bone. But in dentistry, you just sit there in a set position. If you lean and bend all the time, you still don't get any exercise and lack the muscular strength to resist the bad torque on your spine.

It's not exactly like comparing apples and apples to compare the two jobs...each has it's problems. After a month or so of dental school, if you're still totally fine...just count yourself a lucky one.
 
Ok, so I have a bad back and neck as well. I just graduated from HS, but I was really concerned about this for any future job. One day I found this great product called The Bean. I have been using it for almost a week and I have went from daily infrequent back/neck pain to being painless. The thing was like $45 and worth every penny! I highly recommend this to use for exercising and for doing back stretches/strengthing.🙂
 
if you know your going to be in a position a majority of the time why not try to prevent it. Use a back belt and condition the lower back and obliques. It is a pore core issue with slouching, which will hurt anyone no matter the age. And yes i know all about the lower lumbars we learned this stuff in anatomy. However, one of the most important components of physical fit is flexibility, and i know will disagree with me there. The more flexible one is the less prone they are to becoming injured.
 
if you know your going to be in a position a majority of the time why not try to prevent it. Use a back belt and condition the lower back and obliques. It is a pore core issue with slouching, which will hurt anyone no matter the age. And yes i know all about the lower lumbars we learned this stuff in anatomy. However, one of the most important components of physical fit is flexibility, and i know will disagree with me there. The more flexible one is the less prone they are to becoming injured.

Damn...I can't believe I didnt think of that...

For a bunch of doctors and doctors to be, collectively, we are an absent minded bunch
 
everyone already knows the importance of posture, strength and flexibilty. In fact the first week of school they gave us a lecture on proper ergonomics and stretching exercises. If they see you hunching over or lifting up your elbows in class or during practicals, they tell you to stop and then begin to deduct points. Navy is right though, the mouth is a tiny little hole and it's hard to be perfect about posture when you are focused on making a tinier hole inside of it.

But really we don't need to debate this. It's a fact that neck and back problems is the number one issue for dentists, with I think over 50% of dentists reporting having experienced pain in the past year. If I remember I'll ask my instructor for the numbers.
 
i take the neck and back injuries pretty seriously. the dentist i shadowed is plagued with chronic neck and back pains because of his job. he takes pain killers and he said the field is rough on those areas. (he is prolly near retiring age)
 
don't all old people complain of back and neck problems?
 
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