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[Trilt]

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I don't really agree with this. I understand your thinking.

But I think there is value in establishing who is more/less trusted, especially in a game like this where hard info is relatively minimal. It's not like anyone is saying "You've been seered and are definitely village!"

I know it is useful for me to see who other people are hard village vs neutral vs hard wolf, or somewhere in between. Helps me re-assess my own list when I've got someone hard village (like you... hehehe, sorry, had to) and then someone else comes in and says "that person is wolfy," for example.

I think you'd feel different if you were being listed as a villager by everyone.

I just find stronger value in people listing wolf feels than village. It's easy to say someone seems village. Crux of the game is figuring out who isn't and I would like like 80% that, 20% village reads instead of current situation that seems more 40:60 or so.

 

[KCgophervet]

You mean the comment "in favor" of me that I said was weird even before you did? Lol ok

I can see DVMDs logic. Raf was a newer player right? She fumbles on thread and from the starting rules wolves can't PM during the day, so you have to call her out on the main thread.

Not saying I necessarily agree that's what happened, but I can see the logic. It was a weird comment.

Sent from my Nexus 5X using SDN mobile

 

[LetItSnow]

It. Is. A. Game.

Abnerrs, this isn't meant as an attack, to be mean, or anything like that. I loves you.

But yeah, sure, it's a game. But part of the reason you're suspicious is because you basically don't play it. Posting fluffy stuff and throwing votes that seem to come from random-land .... I mean, it's inherently sketchy.

I don't care how you play - and you are totally right that it's just a game, etc. But if that is your approach, it comes with a cost, and that's that it makes you look sketchy.

Is what it is.

Anyway, I don't see Abnerrs voting raf two days in a row as a wolf. I disagree with DVMD; that voting moved her village to me.

 

[LetItSnow]

(Zen is also a girl 😛).

LIS Rule #1992 enforced. NOW it's a game.

 

[Cyndia]

I'm a bit confused by this statement... Why would you be wolf killed if raf voted for you kind of last minute yesterday and then ended up wolf?

TBH, I'm more concerned why you haven't been mod-killed if anything. You had 3 posts on the first two days of the game and they were more fluff than content.

When I wrote that comment, I had only read the last page when I got home and I honestly kind of assumed if an outed wolf had voted for me for what seemed like weak reasons (which is what most of the lasts couple posts on the page said) I would be thought of as more like a villager. I didn't realize he has switched onto me last minute since I hadn't read the previous pages yet.

And like Trilt said, dyachei is not exactly a forgiving mod - if she wanted to mod kill me for inactivity that would happen regardless of if I'm a villager or wolf. I was actually a little worried I was going to be mod killed, but I honestly think she just took a little pity on me because of NAVC.

I also saw I got tagged in a post calling me out for not talking as much as Trilt despite being at the same conference - I admit I had some downtime here and there, but I was pretty distracted all weekend and hanging out with two of my friends nearly the entire time, so I really wasn't pulling out my phone very much. Monday I didn't even look at SDN since I was rushing to finish checking out the conference and had an event I was helping with, otherwise I would have at least responded to the posts I was tagged in. So sorry, but it's just how the weekend went - and I totally understand why I'm under fire, and I know that I wouldn't necessarily cut slack for someone who is too busy for WW since it definitely is a convenient wolf cover sometimes. But yeah. Ask me whatever and I'll try to answer, I'm just done with classes now so I'm going to actually try to read the thread.

 

[LetItSnow]

I kept my vote on Cyndia because I thought, and still do, think she's sketchy.

I think its annoying and, quite frankly, odd and a bit sketchy that you have brought this up again today when I gave you my reasoning for my votes yesterday.

Can you clarify for me what about Cyndia you think is sketchy other than lack of posting?

Or is that it?

I had SkiOtter wolfy (hard wolf, actually) on D1 in my notes, and then for some reason I about-faced and went to hard village. Now I can't remember why, and I was rushing too much to actually take notes. Might have been SkiOtter <---> Cdo arguing?

But now I'm getting all kinds of sketch vibes.

 

[LetItSnow]

I think you'd feel different if you were being listed as a villager by everyone.

I just find stronger value in people listing wolf feels than village. It's easy to say someone seems village. Crux of the game is figuring out who isn't and I would like like 80% that, 20% village reads instead of current situation that seems more 40:60 or so.

I have been listed village by almost everyone (except DVMD, I think).

Like I said, I understand what you're saying. I just disagree.

 

[SARdoghandler]

Also, bummer STL. I am glad though that my sketchometer was reading you as something not quite right.

Not sure how to feel about his thoughts on Jil though. Could have been trying to help village or could've been totally random. I'm confused about the night kill of ny though. If he truly thought Jil was a wolf and wanted to help village, why wouldn't he kill her? Killing STL does make the logical choice to lynch jil but WHAT IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT US TO THINK??!? Wifom. Might just sit on it for now.

This was interesting to me and got me thinking, though I think my thoughts are all WIFOM too. And a hell of a lot of assumptions but here goes, just to throw some thoughts about there that most specifically pertain to the whole lynch/not-lynch Jilary.

All of this is based on the assumption that STL killed Nyanko last night.

If we assume STL was neutral but village leaning, it makes no sense to kill Nyanko when he was so set on Jilary being wolfy. If you are trying to help village, killing someone who is not under suspicion (and risk killing a villager) instead of someone you've said is a wolf is stupid, IMO. And considering there was quite a few people pushing Jilary, it wouldn't have singled him out as a potential killing role holder (again, IMO, but I might be less perceptive than many).

If we assume STL was leaning wolf, then the kill on Nyanko makes more sense. But then I really doubt that Jilary is actually a wolf as I couldn't see a wolf-leaning neutral putting a huge target on an actual wolf's back considering how close that lynch was.

So considering that quite a few people have said that STL seemed villager leaning (and also the arguments for if STL was wolf-leaning), I'm much less likely to consider Jilary as being wolfy and will likely consider going elsewhere with my vote for today. Not sure where that's going to be yet, might go back to AM again.

 

[LetItSnow]

I'm gonna stick with Jilary for now:

lynch Jilary

 

[Trilt]

I have been listed village by almost everyone (except DVMD, I think).

Like I said, I understand what you're saying. I just disagree.

This is very fair and I didn't really think of whom I was talking to when I said that.

 

[Glammyre]

This is dumb and feels weird. He brought her up d1, what evidence would he have?

These games seem to be using Mafia Universe versions of roles instead of our traditional ones. I haven't found the threads back on Mafia Wiki, but I thought I remembered that in the 2015 championship game (DocE's game) the cop gets a Day 0 alignment read of someone of their choice (referred to as Cop Head Start.

STL was pushing Jilary so strongly as a wolf, and refusing to explain his tell for so long, that it made more sense to me that he had evidence that she was a wolf and was making up a tell than that he'd push an unknown player that strongly on day 1 or day 2. Evidence could be the cop head start, or that he was a wolf looking to bus a member. I'd read through Jilary's posts and couldn't figure out the tell, but I also didn't see a lot that pointed me towards villageriness. I was wiling to lynch Jilary to figure out STL's accuracy.

I came to the conclusion that STL was probably cop or wolf on Sunday. This is why I stayed quiet - I didn't want to attract wolf attention on him if he was potentially the cop. Better to stay quiet and avoid attracting wolf notice to STL while still putting my vote towards Jilary's lynch. Unfortunately, that also means I didn't contribute much last day cycle.

I'm sorry for getting engrossed with my cop theory. With STL's death, I see that both the cop and wolf theories were wrong, anyway. He didn't have evidence on Jilary and was probably posting on feels. His death forces me to redo my analysis on Jilary - there were several people questioning who he voted for last night, so why did the wolves decide to kill him instead of work to get him lynched? I'm guessing it was to frame or exonerate Jilary, but I'm not sure which one.

As for posting - I realize that real life doesn't matter here, but I have two exams and a live animal surgery this week. I will post as I can.

 

[LetItSnow]

Actually.

unlynch Jilary

I need to rethink STL. And re-read everything around raf.

 

[Cyndia]

I almost missed this little tidbit from Cyndia in the flurry of posts earlier today, so I'm glad a couple people highlighted it. First part sounds kinda like wolfy egging on, and I made a big skeptical face at the "I'm sure wolves didn't want that ability to stay around" part. @Cyndia -- you think a 2-shot vigilante in the hands of a new player is going to be a top priority for wolves to eliminate? ...yeah ohhh-k. This is only my second game, and even I think that is crazy talk. Even if it was that concerning of an ability, why wouldn't they just kill her during the night cycle and spare themselves the risk of exposure from lynch votes? You just moved yourself on to my "wolfy feels" list with that comment.

I know this is old but figured I'd go back and address it since I definitely typed that comment while distracted and didn't explain it well. I said in my original comment that 'I was probably going to vote for someone who stayed on cdo', meaning someone who had happened to vote for her beforehand, and didn't change after she role revealed. I agree with you that it's not a top priority for wolves to eliminate, and that I wouldn't change onto it as a wolf since a nighttime kill definitely would be easier and suspicion free. But if I was a wolf that had happened to vote for cdo prior to her reveal, I would honestly just leave my vote there and pretend not to check in. Because as a wolf, it's obviously better to take out a known non-villager during lynch, especially one that could kill you (however unlikely it is that they would successfully pick a wolf to kill).

Again, like my other post immediately after day opened, I typed it without fully reading the thread and just skimming the last page or two, so my reasoning was definitely not 100% sound/didn't have much much player analysis behind it. I just wanted to explain my thinking at the time.

 

[SkiOtter]

Can you clarify for me what about Cyndia you think is sketchy other than lack of posting?

Or is that it?

I had SkiOtter wolfy (hard wolf, actually) on D1 in my notes, and then for some reason I about-faced and went to hard village. Now I can't remember why, and I was rushing too much to actually take notes. Might have been SkiOtter <---> Cdo arguing?

But now I'm getting all kinds of sketch vibes.

Yesterday, serher had asked SAR, Confusing, and I for why we kept our votes on cdo after her reveal, which we all gave, and then a bit later in the day, Cyndia quoted serher's post and said she would also like to hear from us about that, even though we had all already given our reasons. I thought it was odd that she hadn't read that page and saw that we had all given our reasons. I thought maybe she hadn't gotten that far on the page yet, but she never came back and said "whoops, I see it now, I hadn't gotten that far when I posted"
She has also not met the 5 a day posting requirement, which like she said dy may have been lenient on her and hasn't mod-killed her since she was at NAVC, but it could just be a good cover for a wolf. Trilt also went to NAVC, but still managed to find time in the 36 hour day cycles to post. Like I said before, I doubt they were doing the exact same things every day as each other, there still was time in the day cycles for her to come on here and post some thoughts.
The three posts that she DID have the past two day cycles were more fluff than content/finding wolves IMO.

 

[Trilt]

Please stop judging Cyndia on my NAVC attendance, lol, I'm a notoriously bad "student" when it comes to lecture and SDN is my way of fidgeting.

 

[SkiOtter]

Please stop judging Cyndia on my NAVC attendance, lol, I'm a notoriously bad "student" when it comes to lecture and SDN is my way of fidgeting.

I'm just saying that it is possible to be there and find some time to do other things, especially with such a long day cycle. With 36 hours, I would think that there would be SOME time to read or skim and have a few more thoughts than she did, even if its just like "this is a weird sounding post."

 

[Cyndia]

Please stop judging Cyndia on my NAVC attendance, lol, I'm a notoriously bad "student" when it comes to lecture and SDN is my way of fidgeting.

They kept dimming the lights in lectures which knocks me out without fail lol.. the only way I coud stay awake was by sitting in front and scribbling notes the whole time, otherwise I totally would have had my phone out too.

Yesterday, serher had asked SAR, Confusing, and I for why we kept our votes on cdo after her reveal, which we all gave, and then a bit later in the day, Cyndia quoted serher's post and said she would also like to hear from us about that, even though we had all already given our reasons. I thought it was odd that she hadn't read that page and saw that we had all given our reasons. I thought maybe she hadn't gotten that far on the page yet, but she never came back and said "whoops, I see it now, I hadn't gotten that far when I posted"

Yeahhh I definitely never made it that far (and still haven't, I'm only just slowly going through the thread now). I'm surprised I missed it if they were posted after serher asked, but it's also easily possible since I was on my phone and skimming quickly.

 

[SkiOtter]

After her post today though, I'm willing to put her on my back burner for at least a day though.

 

[Trilt]

These games seem to be using Mafia Universe versions of roles instead of our traditional ones. I haven't found the threads back on Mafia Wiki, but I thought I remembered that in the 2015 championship game (DocE's game) the cop gets a Day 0 alignment read of someone of their choice (referred to as Cop Head Start.

STL was pushing Jilary so strongly as a wolf, and refusing to explain his tell for so long, that it made more sense to me that he had evidence that she was a wolf and was making up a tell than that he'd push an unknown player that strongly on day 1 or day 2. Evidence could be the cop head start, or that he was a wolf looking to bus a member. I'd read through Jilary's posts and couldn't figure out the tell, but I also didn't see a lot that pointed me towards villageriness. I was wiling to lynch Jilary to figure out STL's accuracy.

I came to the conclusion that STL was probably cop or wolf on Sunday. This is why I stayed quiet - I didn't want to attract wolf attention on him if he was potentially the cop. Better to stay quiet and avoid attracting wolf notice to STL while still putting my vote towards Jilary's lynch. Unfortunately, that also means I didn't contribute much last day cycle.

I'm sorry for getting engrossed with my cop theory. With STL's death, I see that both the cop and wolf theories were wrong, anyway. He didn't have evidence on Jilary and was probably posting on feels. His death forces me to redo my analysis on Jilary - there were several people questioning who he voted for last night, so why did the wolves decide to kill him instead of work to get him lynched? I'm guessing it was to frame or exonerate Jilary, but I'm not sure which one.

As for posting - I realize that real life doesn't matter here, but I have two exams and a live animal surgery this week. I will post as I can.

This is good, but now I really want to know if you're a wolf or not tbh. Because if you are, this theory would nicely explain the STL kill and damn Jilary for sure. Also would mean that there will be a ridiculous amount of WIFOM in analyzing that lynch.

If you're village it's a much less exciting theory.

 

[Abnerrs]

Abnerrs, this isn't meant as an attack, to be mean, or anything like that. I loves you.

But yeah, sure, it's a game. But part of the reason you're suspicious is because you basically don't play it. Posting fluffy stuff and throwing votes that seem to come from random-land .... I mean, it's inherently sketchy.

I don't care how you play - and you are totally right that it's just a game, etc. But if that is your approach, it comes with a cost, and that's that it makes you look sketchy.

Is what it is.

Anyway, I don't see Abnerrs voting raf two days in a row as a wolf. I disagree with DVMD; that voting moved her village to me.

Alright. Fine. I'll try to explain myself better. I know they SEEM random but it's just me getting a feel and sometimes I can't articulate it well. I'll try to be better.

But I'm still going to make jokes! So there.

And also, I'll try to be less combative. What is my issue. It's been busy today. I'll read through the thread later

 

[Coopah]

Alright. Fine. I'll try to explain myself better. I know they SEEM random but it's just me getting a feel and sometimes I can't articulate it well. I'll try to be better.

But I'm still going to make jokes! So there.

And also, I'll try to be less combative. What is my issue. It's been busy today. I'll read through the thread later

I hope you continue to make jokes, WW is no fun if people are only serious and not silly. For me anyways.

 

[Abnerrs]

I hope you continue to make jokes, WW is no fun if people are only serious and not silly. For me anyways.

Ok! But I'll try to be "helpful" blah blah blah

😉

 

[Trilt]

Can you clarify for me what about Cyndia you think is sketchy other than lack of posting?

Or is that it?

I had SkiOtter wolfy (hard wolf, actually) on D1 in my notes, and then for some reason I about-faced and went to hard village. Now I can't remember why, and I was rushing too much to actually take notes. Might have been SkiOtter <---> Cdo arguing?

But now I'm getting all kinds of sketch vibes.

Just noticed this. I thought Ski was acting kinda sketchy the first day, but after some re-reading there's some early stuff that puts her solidly village leaning in my mind. Better prey out there imo.

Cyndia is always hard to read. Hopefully steps up the posting now.

 

[finnickthedog]

@finnickthedog you seem to be fluffy and non-committal in this game; and posting distracting and irrelevant comments. For example:



What does that mean?

Don’t see how those types of distracting, irrelevant, and non-committal comments help any of us to find wolves in this game. Care to say more @finnickthedog?

Maybe I'm wrong, but those types of comments don't seem helpful ... well, at least not to me. Instead, it seems as if you are posting a few short and non-committal comments each day, that's all. So far, you have not posted a total of 12 short comments since D1 and now, we're on D3. None of your posts are particularly substantive. Pretty minimal posting at this point in the game. Just saying.

I'm also inclined to question you for another reason: you have already played in many WW games before this Basic game. You have a lot of WW game-playing experience. For that reason, I don't think you would be the type of WW player who would be inclined to make careless, fluffy, or inattentive mistakes in this Basic game. Instead, I would think you would want to help us find wolves in this game. So, I'm wondering about your role in this game. Right now, I'm inclined to think you're a wolf or some other type of non-villager.

Do you really need me to explain what that comment means? In the context of the brief conversation I was having at the time about how I play it made sense.

You've only quoted one comment. What else have I said that was so distracting?

If I had truly wanted to be distracting I could have easily kept that side conversation going. I clearly didn't do that though.

I've already addressed the fact that I don't post or contribute a lot especially early in the game. That's how the "distracting" comment came about in the first place. It's not the greatest play and I would like to get better at being useful but it's also not unusual for me so it shouldn't be setting off alarm bells. It tells you basically nothing about me.

Maybe try looking at my posting in the context of how I've posted in previous games rather than in the context of how many previous games I've participated in.

 

[allyphoe]

This is good, but now I really want to know if you're a wolf or not tbh.

Only one way to find out!

 

[Animal Midwife]

Something doesn't feel right about STL getting killed when Jil was nearly lynched. Maybe it's WIFOM, maybe it's not. But I still have some feels.

Lynch Jil

 

[Trilt]

Do you really need me to explain what that comment means? In the context of the brief conversation I was having at the time about how I play it made sense.

You've only quoted one comment. What else have I said that was so distracting?

If I had truly wanted to be distracting I could have easily kept that side conversation going. I clearly didn't do that though.

I've already addressed the fact that I don't post or contribute a lot especially early in the game. That's how the "distracting" comment came about in the first place. It's not the greatest play and I would like to get better at being useful but it's also not unusual for me so it shouldn't be setting off alarm bells. It tells you basically nothing about me.

Maybe try looking at my posting in the context of how I've posted in previous games rather than in the context of how many previous games I've participated in.

This is all fine and dandy but you should tell us who you think wolves are. Then we'll stop harassing you. 😉

I'd like to hear more from @WildZoo today, too.

Only one way to find out!

Doing my part already!

 

[finnickthedog]

This is all fine and dandy but you should tell us who you think wolves are. Then we'll stop harassing you. 😉

You can keep harassing me if you'd like.
I don't think it will do you much good though.

And for the record, while my contribution has been minimal I have expressed some thoughts. It's not like I'm sitting in the corner with arms crossed refusing to participate.

 

[DVMDream]

Abnerrs, this isn't meant as an attack, to be mean, or anything like that. I loves you.

But yeah, sure, it's a game. But part of the reason you're suspicious is because you basically don't play it. Posting fluffy stuff and throwing votes that seem to come from random-land .... I mean, it's inherently sketchy.

I don't care how you play - and you are totally right that it's just a game, etc. But if that is your approach, it comes with a cost, and that's that it makes you look sketchy.

Is what it is.

Anyway, I don't see Abnerrs voting raf two days in a row as a wolf. I disagree with DVMD; that voting moved her village to me.

Meh, I've voted for a fellow wolf multiple days in a row. It works best early game...pretend to be a little suspicious, don't really commit a whole lot, let others talk then later when that person is wolf... look! I was suspicious of them from the beginning. It allowed me to win the last basic game as a wolf.

Just my thoughts.

 

[Trilt]

You can keep harassing me if you'd like.
I don't think it will do you much good though.

And for the record, while my contribution has been minimal I have expressed some thoughts. It's not like I'm sitting in the corner with arms crossed refusing to participate.

Just always makes me laugh when people have time to explain why they're not playing the game quite like it should be but not to actually play it. Nothing to lose from throwing your suspicions out.

 

[DVMDream]

And I'm voting Abnerrs for raf's weird comment. She only voted raf yesterday when he (she) was already getting lynched. So...doesn't hold much water in my opinion.

 

[nyanko]

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[Abnerrs]

And I'm voting Abnerrs for raf's weird comment. She only voted raf yesterday when he (she) was already getting lynched. So...doesn't hold much water in my opinion.

Except I'd said early in the day that she was top of my list and that I was likely biting that way soooooooooo. Yeah.

 

[Abnerrs]

You know who I keep forgetting is playing? Awesome. And that concerns me. I said it before that when people are quiet to the point of being forgotten it actually stands out to me.

 

[finnickthedog]

Just always makes me laugh when people have time to explain why they're not playing the game quite like it should be but not to actually play it. Nothing to lose from throwing your suspicions out.

Now I'm going to be accused of distracting again but I do throw my suspicions out once I actually have them. Just because I don't play like you want me to doesn't mean I'm not actually playing the game.

If I don't have suspicions of people yet, I'm not going to make random stuff up and I don't think it would make me a better player if I did.

 

[awesomenessity]

You know who I keep forgetting is playing? Awesome. And that concerns me. I said it before that when people are quiet to the point of being forgotten it actually stands out to me.

But fer reals I'll catch up and post when I get home. SAR just let me know I was getting thrown some shade haha.

 

[Abnerrs]

But fer reals I'll catch up and post when I get home. SAR just let me know I was getting thrown some shade haha.

I lol'd

 

[Abnerrs]

I'm not a stickler for rules. But I do follow them. If there's no pming I get a little sleeved if someone is texting etc. That seems a little cheaty.

 

[Abnerrs]

I'm not a stickler for rules. But I do follow them. If there's no pming I get a little sleeved if someone is texting etc. That seems a little cheaty.

I follow rules when I REALLY have to. Like with dy is a mod.

 

[SARdoghandler]

I'm not a stickler for rules. But I do follow them. If there's no pming I get a little sleeved if someone is texting etc. That seems a little cheaty.

We are literally sitting next to each other in class 🤣

We do have our own WW rules though considering we know each other IRL. We don't talk about the game unless we can PM. I just happened to say out loud that she was being called out because I obviously pay less attention in class than she does haha

 

[Trilt]

Now I'm going to be accused of distracting again but I do throw my suspicions out once I actually have them. Just because I don't play like you want me to doesn't mean I'm not actually playing the game.

If I don't have suspicions of people yet, I'm not going to make random stuff up and I don't think it would make me a better player if I did.

So, you voted to lynch ally before. How do you feel about her now? Still suspicious, or no?

I'm not asking you to make things up. I'm asking people to list their thoughts and theories so that midway through the game we don't have a bunch of people who haven't committed to anything and we can't analyze.

Thus far you've rng (okay, favourite number) lynched coopah and then lynched ally. You lightly defended raf and expressed frustration at reading AM. All in all your history is actually a little sketch (especially if Jil eventually flips wolf) so I'd like to hear more from you.

 

[Abnerrs]

We are literally sitting next to each other in class 🤣

We do have our own WW rules though considering we know each other IRL. We don't talk about the game unless we can PM. I just happened to say out loud that she was being called out because I obviously pay less attention in class than she does haha

Alright fine

😛


I hope that's not huge I'm on my phone

 

[awesomenessity]

Alright fine

😛


I hope that's not huge I'm on my phone

Don't worry Abnerrs we're good eggs 😛 I just need to pay attention in class so I can teach SAR the material later 😉 (jk love you girl)

 

[finnickthedog]

So, you voted to lynch ally before. How do you feel about her now? Still suspicious, or no?

I'm not asking you to make things up. I'm asking people to list their thoughts and theories so that midway through the game we don't have a bunch of people who haven't committed to anything and we can't analyze.

Thus far you've rng (okay, favourite number) lynched coopah and then lynched ally. You lightly defended raf and expressed frustration at reading AM. All in all your history is actually a little sketch (especially if Jil eventually flips wolf) so I'd like to hear more from you.

I'm pretty sure you did tell me make something up yesterday. I'm pretty sure those were your words exactly when I said I didn't have thoughts or theories at the time. Which is usually the case when I'm being quiet.

Nothing has changed with ally. I still feel suspicious of her but it's not based on much so I'm not voting for her yet... but likely to go there again if I don't settle on a better candidate.

I wouldn't say I defended raf unless you're also saying I defended AM. I said basically the same thing about both of them. Personally, I didn't consider it a defense. I can see how someone else might, but only if you're considering both a defense.

 

[Trilt]

I'm pretty sure you did tell me make something up yesterday. I'm pretty sure those were your words exactly when I said I didn't have thoughts or theories at the time. Which is usually the case when I'm being quiet.

Nothing has changed with ally. I still feel suspicious of her but it's not based on much so I'm not voting for her yet... but likely to go there again if I don't settle on a better candidate.

I wouldn't say I defended raf unless you're also saying I defended AM. I said basically the same thing about both of them. Personally, I didn't consider it a defense. I can see how someone else might, but only if you're considering both a defense.

Fair nuff:

Make something up.

Unless you're a wolf, you're working with the same set of knowledge as everyone else. Don't just sit there and shrug that you don't know ****, jump on something.

With that said... first dayish is always a crap shoot. But now we have two cycles and like 20 pages of conversation. Different situations. You shouldn't have to make things up at this point.

Raf is another player that often seems sketch to me when she isn't. So I'm a bit hesitant about jumping on that lynch.

In regards to AM, I kind of agree but... she always seem sketchy to me and I don't think I've ever actually been right about her.

Context is important here. Raf has a) come up as a wolf and b) had just really recently acquired lynch votes when you posted that. It reads more sketchy imo even though the terminology is similar.

 

[Trilt]

And honestly I don't think you're a wolf at this point. I just think you're worth antagonizing a little because we're not going to get feels out of you if it's not done.

 

[finnickthedog]

Context is important here. Raf has a) come up as a wolf and b) had just really recently acquired lynch votes when you posted that. It reads more sketchy imo even though the terminology is similar.

In both cases I was talking about someone that other people were talking about at the time. Looking back, both raf and AM appear to have had two votes so I don't think there is a whole lot of substantial difference there as far as your point b.

I still think they were either both defenses or they both weren't.

And honestly I don't think you're a wolf at this point. I just think you're worth antagonizing a little because we're not going to get feels out of you if it's not done.

 

[Trilt]

😍

 

[PippyPony]

In between work & class, will post more later/tomorrow. For now, I'll repeat my vote from yesterday.

******Lynch @Zensing*****

(Did I do it right this time? 🙂 )

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[LetItSnow]

She has also not met the 5 a day posting requirement, which like she said dy may have been lenient on her and hasn't mod-killed her since she was at NAVC, but it could just be a good cover for a wolf.

I wouldn't read too much into the mod-kill issue. I didn't meet the requirement either the first day, and Dy just sent me a brief "post or be killed" warning. I would presume the same thing happened with Cyndia.

I'm not defending Cyndia - just saying I don't really feel like the posting requirement thing reads wolf OR villager to me.