Barrow, Case (CWRU), Emory, UChicago, UCLA - Q re Reputation

[coup de chance]

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How do you rank the reputations of Barrow, Case (CWRU), Emory, UChicago, UCLA ?

The poll lets you say which is your #1 -- you may pick 1 or multiple choices for your #1. Votes are anonymous.

Reply if you want to give your full rank of the reputations.

Thanks!

 

[Winged Scapula]

For what specialty?

The rep will vary based on which program you're talking about.

 

[gutonc]

Also...WTH is Barrow? Never even heard of that place.

 

[Ludicolo]

Also...WTH is Barrow? Never even heard of that place.

So you would rank the reputation of Barrow pretty low then...

 

[gutonc]

So you would rank the reputation of Barrow pretty low then...

I'm sure they're pretty good at something. Food? Press-Ganey scores of the NPs in their fast-track unit?

 

[smq123]

I'm sure they're pretty good at something. Food? Press-Ganey scores of the NPs in their fast-track unit?

The Barrow is one of the top-notch neurosurg places. It's somewhere in the Southwest...Arizona, maybe?

It's not the name of the hospital, it's the name of the neurosurg department in the hospital. That might be why you've never heard of it. (The only reason I know about it is from one of my friends who matched in neurosurgery there and was very excited.)

 

[Winged Scapula]

The Barrow is one of the top-notch neurosurg places. It's somewhere in the Southwest...Arizona, maybe?

It's not the name of the hospital, it's the name of the neurosurg department in the hospital. That might be why you've never heard of it. (The only reason I know about it is from one of my friends who matched in neurosurgery there and was very excited.)

Barrow is here in Phoenix and it is world renowed, but it (and the residency programs - of which there are several) are based at St. Joseph's Hospital. The OP may be talking about Neurosurgery, Neurology, NeuroRads, NeuroOphtho, etc. - there are several residencies and fellowships there.

 

[LocusCeruleous]

There are several residency programs at Barrow and they are not all of the same quality.

 

[Samoa]

Your results on this poll will mean very little unless you specify what specialty you're talking about. There can be a huge discrepancy in reputation between specialties at the same program. Even at Barrow, the other residencies don't have anywhere near the reputation of their neurosurgery program.

Also, since it hasn't been said yet, reputation is helpful career-wise, but is not a proxy for the actual quality of your education. It may matter for the first 5-10 years of your post-residency career. But over time, your own skill and reputation will outweigh that of where you trained. And training program reputations change as well.

In the end, your training is only as good as you are, no matter how stellar a reputation the program has.

 

[coup de chance]

I'm trying to figure this out for this app cycle of Neurology residency specifically. However, I was trying to gauge the relative reputations of each name as a whole (and also posted in the ERAS/NRMP section, instead of the neuro forum) -- perhaps naively.

I'm just trying to figure out reputations from peeps around the country as more info for ranking time.

Now I didn't see 1 person say anything about Case or Emory. Are they no-names?

 

[Llenroc]

It depends upon what your specialty is and who you're trying to impress.

For example: In my field, U-Penn is mediocre. So at a convention for the specialty, no one will be impressed by the fact that you did your residency there. However, if you're trying to impress rich people at a cocktail party about where you did your training, you may get a lot of mileage out of saying that you went there. OTOH, the man on the street hasn't heard of U-Penn and thinks its a state school.

 

[LocusCeruleous]

I have heard from my friends in Phoenix that there has been a major change in the Barrow Neurological Institute's Department of Neurology. Last Friday (2/15/2013) the chairman abruptly resigned (or was fired?). Everyone says that this guy was liked by the faculty and residents and had apparently been doing a good job bulding up the department. There had recently been a management change at the institution and the Department of Neurology was under attack by the admistration. The chairman had been successfully resisting the changes (some of which consisted of salary cuts for members of the Department and a take over by the neurosurgeons). I am really sad to hear this and the likely result is a going to be a long period of decline for neurology at the BNI and the institution as a whole.