Barry Or Nycpm?

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Hello everyone who will eventually post to this. I am new to this forum and I have to say I seem to be very lucky and in the presence of great future contributors to the profession of podiatry.

That being said, I dont want to beat a dead horse, but...

I have seen in a previous topic the discussion of POD school rankings. I have interviewed and been accepted to both Barry and NYCPM. I am originally from Miami, Fl and I did my undergrad in NY.

Can I get some feed back please on both of these schools. The good, great, bad, nasty, neutral... I am struggling with my decision of where to go, and I would like experienced comments about these too schools.

Thank you
 
nolove said:
Hello everyone who will eventually post to this. I am new to this forum and I have to say I seem to be very lucky and in the presence of great future contributors to the profession of podiatry.

That being said, I dont want to beat a dead horse, but...

I have seen in a previous topic the discussion of POD school rankings. I have interviewed and been accepted to both Barry and NYCPM. I am originally from Miami, Fl and I did my undergrad in NY.

Can I get some feed back please on both of these schools. The good, great, bad, nasty, neutral... I am struggling with my decision of where to go, and I would like experienced comments about these too schools.

Thank you


Is this the choice because of location? Did you get into any other school?

I can tell you frm experience about NYCPM and hearsay about Barry.

NYCPM has fine education and possibilities and potential. If you want to learn you can. If you do not want to learn you can too.

Research is their if you work really hard to fit it in and arrange the time and location. Logistics and planning are very diffucult there.

Communication and planning are not the strong points. The admins are working on it but it still needs more improvement.

At NYCPM you will only have 3 externships and you will take classes thru your 3rd year. There is little time to visit programs outside of NY.

NY has the worst scope of practice. It does not affect the school years of learning but when it comes to getting a residency outside of NY, it is hard to visit them and therefore makes it difficult to get.

NY scope of practice is the foot below tha malleoli. That is the foot and half the ankle. not even the soft tissue in the leg.

If you want more info on NYCPM PM me.

Now for Barry:

I have a friend that transfered to Barry from NYCPM. He said it was the worst mistake ever. He at least liked the people in NYCPM even if we do not have a beach.

Then there are 2 people that transfered from Barry to NYCPM and like it better than Barry.

From the friend that transferred to Barry from NYCPM, he said the Pods are treated worse than nurses at Barry. The students are very competative and unfriendly.

At Barry you have to order all your equipment and special books as a class (NYCPM has a book store)

The copies are not free in the computer lab at barry. at nycpm they are.

The administrators and staff are not helpful or friendly at Barry.

The administrators at NYCPM can be helpful if approached and they are usually pretty friendly.

Big plus to Barry - a beach

NYCPM is in NYC!!!! but we have snow., but Barry has hurricains

I guess in the end it matters where you felt most comfortable.

GO to DMU, Scholl, or Azpod!
 
I am currently in my second year at Barry, and I have known Barry to have the toughest academic program of the eight schools. We already started our second year, I believe we are the only school that has class during the summer, so the program is a bit more intense, but it pays off in the long run. Tuition is not any more expensive because of it either. I was just elected as the President-Elect for the Florida Podiatric Medical Student Association and we have some great things happening at Barry. I encourage to review the curriculum at all the school and talk to current students to see what their academic coursework is like, see which one fits you best. I agree with KRABMAS, we do have hurricanes. As a matter of fact we had Katrina the day after I moved down here. If you are not used to the people in Miami (i.e. rude, can't drive, etc) Miami is not the place for you. As for fun, you have alot to do here, but when school gets into full swing you have little time for that. I would think it is like that at all the other schools as well. I am from Texas, and so the mood is a little different here. You know that b/c your from here. Anyway, I also understand that NYCPM has an issue right now with their accredidation, I am not a 100% sure on that but I would check on that. I am not sure if the AZ school has received theirs yet, but I am sure they will. I visited and was also accepted to Samuel Merritt (CA), but I did not like it, the program seemed very unorganized. As for technology in schools I would look at AZ and Scholls. Best of Luck on your decision.

PS - most of the things said about Barry are not true. The printing thing is true. The administrators are very helpful, the students are not competitive but the classes are difficult. Those who transferred away are those who did not make it here and were going to have to drop to the five year schedule. If you come to Barry, you have to work and there are no excuses if you put in the work, you make the grade. If you don't your done, and then you can go to another POD school. The scope of practice in Florida is tibial tuberosity down.

krabmas said:
Is this the choice because of location? Did you get into any other school?

I can tell you frm experience about NYCPM and hearsay about Barry.

NYCPM has fine education and possibilities and potential. If you want to learn you can. If you do not want to learn you can too.

Research is their if you work really hard to fit it in and arrange the time and location. Logistics and planning are very diffucult there.

Communication and planning are not the strong points. The admins are working on it but it still needs more improvement.

At NYCPM you will only have 3 externships and you will take classes thru your 3rd year. There is little time to visit programs outside of NY.

NY has the worst scope of practice. It does not affect the school years of learning but when it comes to getting a residency outside of NY, it is hard to visit them and therefore makes it difficult to get.

NY scope of practice is the foot below tha malleoli. That is the foot and half the ankle. not even the soft tissue in the leg.

If you want more info on NYCPM PM me.

Now for Barry:

I have a friend that transfered to Barry from NYCPM. He said it was the worst mistake ever. He at least liked the people in NYCPM even if we do not have a beach.

Then there are 2 people that transfered from Barry to NYCPM and like it better than Barry.

From the friend that transferred to Barry from NYCPM, he said the Pods are treated worse than nurses at Barry. The students are very competative and unfriendly.

At Barry you have to order all your equipment and special books as a class (NYCPM has a book store)

The copies are not free in the computer lab at barry. at nycpm they are.

The administrators and staff are not helpful or friendly at Barry.

The administrators at NYCPM can be helpful if approached and they are usually pretty friendly.

Big plus to Barry - a beach

NYCPM is in NYC!!!! but we have snow., but Barry has hurricains

I guess in the end it matters where you felt most comfortable.

GO to DMU, Scholl, or Azpod!
 
NateDPM said:
I am currently in my second year at Barry, and I have known Barry to have the toughest academic program of the eight schools. We already started our second year, I believe we are the only school that has class during the summer, so the program is a bit more intense, but it pays off in the long run. Tuition is not any more expensive because of it either. I was just elected as the President-Elect for the Florida Podiatric Medical Student Association and we have some great things happening at Barry. I encourage to review the curriculum at all the school and talk to current students to see what their academic coursework is like, see which one fits you best. I agree with KRABMAS, we do have hurricanes. As a matter of fact we had Katrina the day after I moved down here. If you are not used to the people in Miami (i.e. rude, can't drive, etc) Miami is not the place for you. As for fun, you have alot to do here, but when school gets into full swing you have little time for that. I would think it is like that at all the other schools as well. I am from Texas, and so the mood is a little different here. You know that b/c your from here. Anyway, I also understand that NYCPM has an issue right now with their accredidation, I am not a 100% sure on that but I would check on that. I am not sure if the AZ school has received theirs yet, but I am sure they will. I visited and was also accepted to Samuel Merritt (CA), but I did not like it, the program seemed very unorganized. As for technology in schools I would look at AZ and Scholls. Best of Luck on your decision.

PS - most of the things said about Barry are not true. The printing thing is true. The administrators are very helpful, the students are not competitive but the classes are difficult. Those who transferred away are those who did not make it here and were going to have to drop to the five year schedule. If you come to Barry, you have to work and there are no excuses if you put in the work, you make the grade. If you don't your done, and then you can go to another POD school. The scope of practice in Florida is tibial tuberosity down.

Nate since you are going to be the "man" at Barry, you should have them work on our schools website. It really stinks. I've been trying to get info on all of the schools for that medschoolready website and Barry's site is tough to navigate. Pull some strings for me, and show some SDN love. 😀
 
NateDPM said:
I am currently in my second year at Barry, and I have known Barry to have the toughest academic program of the eight schools. We already started our second year, I believe we are the only school that has class during the summer, so the program is a bit more intense, but it pays off in the long run. Tuition is not any more expensive because of it either. I was just elected as the President-Elect for the Florida Podiatric Medical Student Association and we have some great things happening at Barry. I encourage to review the curriculum at all the school and talk to current students to see what their academic coursework is like, see which one fits you best. I agree with KRABMAS, we do have hurricanes. As a matter of fact we had Katrina the day after I moved down here. If you are not used to the people in Miami (i.e. rude, can't drive, etc) Miami is not the place for you. As for fun, you have alot to do here, but when school gets into full swing you have little time for that. I would think it is like that at all the other schools as well. I am from Texas, and so the mood is a little different here. You know that b/c your from here. Anyway, I also understand that NYCPM has an issue right now with their accredidation, I am not a 100% sure on that but I would check on that. I am not sure if the AZ school has received theirs yet, but I am sure they will. I visited and was also accepted to Samuel Merritt (CA), but I did not like it, the program seemed very unorganized. As for technology in schools I would look at AZ and Scholls. Best of Luck on your decision.

PS - most of the things said about Barry are not true. The printing thing is true. The administrators are very helpful, the students are not competitive but the classes are difficult. Those who transferred away are those who did not make it here and were going to have to drop to the five year schedule. If you come to Barry, you have to work and there are no excuses if you put in the work, you make the grade. If you don't your done, and then you can go to another POD school. The scope of practice in Florida is tibial tuberosity down.

I do little to defend NYCPM at this point but I will say that there is no problem with the accredidation. They have been acredited the max number of years from 2 years ago. (I do not remember if it was 5 or 8 years for the max).

Some of the stuff I heard about Barry was from a student that is there now because he transfered from NYCPM. He is not in any danger of failing from Barry.
 
NateDPM said:
I am currently in my second year at Barry, and I have known Barry to have the toughest academic program of the eight schools.

I've got to say that I wouldn't judge a school's academic curriculum to be the toughest of the 8 schools simply because they take classes through the summer.

The "gold standard" of judging a school's academic curriculum in my opinion is Part I of the NBPME. The schools with the highest pass rates have the best academic curriculums. This exam covers all of the academics that a podiatric medical student should have learned in the first two years of schooling.
 
NateDPM said:
I am currently in my second year at Barry, and I have known Barry to have the toughest academic program of the eight schools.

:laugh: I am sure there are some smart kids at Barry, but this is a pretty subjective statement. Be sure to visit the school and ask about NBPME part 1 pass rates and the % of students that get their first or second choice of 3yr residencies. Also, if any program offers you a seat on the spot it should make you think twice. The best schools are usually the more difficult ones to get into that put some thought into who they allow to matriculate. From what I understand AZPOD has received accreditation and they too have classes year round, but with the DO students. NateDPM, I'm glad you are proud of your school and look forward to working with you in Vegas at the APMSA HOD meeting.
 
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