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Morgan Stanley says it’s ok now to allocate your portfolio to $BTC. Lmao
 
Direct Laryngoscopy said:
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This is why even a 140-160k peak price with sky high interest rates and lets say the cycle ends in 2025 only reaching this range only makes me think what is to come in 2029 with 2-4% being advised to be allocated going forward.

Forget 10T vanguard will be offering an etf and allowing there peeps to invest in crypto and trump allowing crypto in IRAS. Even excluding the last 2 big things in favor I may be being bearish saying 300k ish in 2029-2030.
 
sevo00 said:
Crazy hitting all these new ATHs yet this place still relatively quiet compared to previous ATHs. Means much higher to go.

ETH crossing 6k is gonna hit like crack
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Well at least with btc we hit 100k close to a year ago and have been chopping 110+since may really. the previous cycle we went from like 10-60 in like 3-4 months.

That will be good for ETH crossing that mark.
 
Direct Laryngoscopy said:
$GOLD parabolic rise is more alarming than anything. Study the history of Fiat currency. It’s not the price of gold that matters as much as the purchasing power of the $USD
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Absolutely.
Friends know I'm basically William Devane and tell me I gotta be loving this. Everyone loves profit but this is no doubt very scary when I consider why I loaded gold in the first place.
 
Direct Laryngoscopy said:
$GOLD parabolic rise is more alarming than anything. Study the history of Fiat currency. It’s not the price of gold that matters as much as the purchasing power of the $USD
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True. Gold breaking above 4k only further tilts to btc playing some large catch up in q4? Gold ath, s/p 500 nearing 7k, m2 peaking, rate cuts ahead, bollinger bands compressed and ready to explode.... should be fireworks to end the year for you know who.
 
txhorn said:
Wild day, $19B in liquidations today. More than the covid crash and ftx crashes. Hope you’re all staying safe out there and avoiding leverage.
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Its good to have put in limit orders just in case we get some crazy drops like today otherwise good luck trying to get into an exchange or move funds during the fiasco you likely will run into roadblocks.

All in all getting the overleveraged longs out probably increases a bigger run coming. back to 120's in the next 7-10 days max.
 
Biggest liquidation in history and price is the same as last week. lol. I’m more to believe this is a local price bottom and price is going way higher. Leverage will burn you if you don’t have limits on your losses. I only play the spot market these days, as I’ve had my share of 3rd degree burns in this dirty market. [emoji23]
 
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Direct Laryngoscopy said:
Biggest liquidation in history and price is the same as last week. lol. I’m more to believe this is a local price bottom and price is going way higher. Leverage will burn you if you don’t have limits on your losses. I only play the spot market these days, as I’ve had my share of 3rd degree burns in this dirty market. [emoji23]
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After last cycle going 60k to 30k in 4wks then ultimately 69k to 15k this really was a quick recovery.

Like u said if anything this sets up a higher peak price this year by flushing leverage out.
 
finalpsychyear said:
After last cycle going 60k to 30k in 4wks then ultimately 69k to 15k this really was a quick recovery.

Like u said if anything this sets up a higher peak price this year by flushing leverage out.
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This market nascent market can be manipulated (in the short term) by big players using the leverage market to flush out longs and shorts. Playing the spot market works for me. My goal is to have more BTC than I did previously (month, quarter, yearly). I spot buy BTC, and play the altcoin market alts/BTC. Expect continued volatility as Wall Street and now Sovereigns (latest Luxenberg) use leverage to flush out longs and crash price creating fear while they’ll happily buy spot BTC at 105K like yesterday.
 
Direct Laryngoscopy said:
This market nascent market can be manipulated (in the short term) by big players using the leverage market to flush out longs and shorts. Playing the spot market works for me. My goal is to have more BTC than I did previously (month, quarter, yearly). I spot buy BTC, and play the altcoin market alts/BTC. Expect continued volatility as Wall Street and now Sovereigns (latest Luxenberg) use leverage to flush out longs and crash price creating fear while they’ll happily buy spot BTC at 105K like yesterday.
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Agreed. Im sticking to cycle ending by eoy latest and a 50-70% correction q4 next year. Will be my black friday sale to load up. Enter every cycle with more than the previous to keep it simple. Good luck
 
Direct Laryngoscopy said:
Nice work.

Why retire? Maybe we can reverse ObamaCare so doctors can own hospitals, use the capital to open up hospitals and provide Medicine as intended. [emoji362]
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I know it’s off topic, but I think I’ll retire when I’m dead. My Life is amazing and getting new found capital for me isn’t about sitting around. On to the next adventure in life.
 
Direct Laryngoscopy said:
Nice work.

Why retire? Maybe we can reverse ObamaCare so doctors can own hospitals, use the capital to open up hospitals and provide Medicine as intended. [emoji362]
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Its a nice thought and ive thought the same. Though too many players that would try and harm you and your family if you tried to do this.
Btc needs to keep its 20% cagr rate going first and foremost for some of us to get into some of these movements.

Right now btc is doing a running 4 year cagr of under 16%.... vs 13-14 running cagr for QQQ, msft, apple.

will have some answers in the next 3 mo. 2 rate cuts ahead. if we are still dancing in this range then who knows.
 
sevo00 said:
Crazy hitting all these new ATHs yet this place still relatively quiet compared to previous ATHs. Means much higher to go.

ETH crossing 6k is gonna hit like crack
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4 year cagr as of friday close: VOO 10%, QQQ 13%, BTC 15.3%

I basically look at this and say you still get 50% more growth in btc than in s and p 500.
However, most will not see it this way.

We are near 112k btc and people are very depressed fear and greed in the 30s. I kept the bar low and even if we have peaked or whatever i dont see that much of a bear correction bc we have been sideways for nearly a year since btc broke 100k last nov.

There may still be a last leg up but it'd be hilarious we close october and then nov/dec negative and do some insanity in dec/jan. Most would all be caught of guard bc of the poor october/nov months. Will be interesting end of year.
 
Well. Whoever was smart to buy IREN after I mentioned it is up a lot. Congrats. Oh yea, bloom energy and APLD too.
 

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whew sold half of what i plannnd to this cycle before halloween. I still think we have a higher top before eoy. Even rumored trump whale with 100% success got liquidated.


Still the price action last few days...

Fox Tv GIF by Family Guy
 

Btc is down 1k since this graph.
It is now behind qqq and voo
in 4 year cagr.




Asset		Nov 8, 2021 CloseNov 8, 2025 CloseTotal Growth4-Year CAGR
VOO (Vanguard S&P 500 ETF)$408.31$616.89+51.1%10.9%
BTC (Bitcoin)$67,665.90$102,298.70+51.1%10.9%
QQQ (Invesco QQQ Trust)$390.85$609.74+56.0%11.8%



Might be the worst performance ever in a 4 year stretch for btc. Yeah this time is different. Glad im half out. This has gotta hurt.
 
sevo00 said:
Crazy hitting all these new ATHs yet this place still relatively quiet compared to previous ATHs. Means much higher to go.

ETH crossing 6k is gonna hit like crack
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Done selling what i planned to for the cycle still chips in play for some unexpected upside. Of course if theres some insane rally which part me still feels may happen bc everyone is bearish with fear and greed at FTX levels which is 10 right now is CRAZY.


Hilairious we are almost at 100k and FG index of 10.

Sadly not going to be able to go part time anytime soon and if 126k was the top i now think touching or near 200k may be the 2029 peak. Might be back to VOO/QQQ for me as they beat btc 4 year cagr.
 
finalpsychyear said:
Done selling what i planned to for the cycle still chips in play for some unexpected upside. Of course if theres some insane rally which part me still feels may happen bc everyone is bearish with fear and greed at FTX levels which is 10 right now is CRAZY.


Hilairious we are almost at 100k and FG index of 10.

Sadly not going to be able to go part time anytime soon and if 126k was the top i now think touching or near 200k may be the 2029 peak. Might be back to VOO/QQQ for me as they beat btc 4 year cagr.
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I am genuinely curious as to how you arrive to your predictions? I very loosely follow crypto but I was thinking this is getting closer to buying opportunity if you believe the asset will be here for the foreseeable future.
 
I was wrong about the top. Tour we from 75-77k which is strong weekly support or if 4 year market still intact then we revisit 30-40k next year.
 
sevo00 said:
I was wrong about the top. Tour we from 75-77k which is strong weekly support or if 4 year market still intact then we revisit 30-40k next year.
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Based on……??????
Speculation? Technical analysis?
You really think a 83% correction from the top is coming next year?
WHY?
A lot of crypto posters here. Trying to understand the reasoning. “Super cycle” are just words IMO.

I understand a rotation out of AI.
Bitcoin however… I don’t understand it’s moves outside of mere support levels.
 
sevoflurane said:
Based on……??????
Speculation? Technical analysis?
You really think a 83% correction from the top is coming next year?
WHY?
A lot of crypto posters here. Trying to understand the reasoning. “Super cycle” are just words IMO.

I understand a rotation out of AI.
Bitcoin however… I don’t understand it’s moves outside of mere support levels.
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No one knows. I use diminishing returns. Then dca as we get closer to higher prices.

Bear market next year i will buy in various levels. Will be lucky lucky to get in the sub 40 level but i have learned always have powder for black friday sales.

Small part of me thinks this is all an epic shakeout just like ole times.
 
This is all of my crypto play money. It was an experiment started a few years ago. Not bad returns. Never jumped on board because I did not understand it’s moves. Chart isn’t bad by any means.
3.5x at peak. 1k-3.5k


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sevo00 said:
I was wrong about the top. Tour we from 75-77k which is strong weekly support or if 4 year market still intact then we revisit 30-40k next year.
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Riches made in the bear. I wont be fearful this time. Could be epic catching some in this range even if it only goes 150-200 in 2029 thats a 4-5x. Been hoarding last 12 mo for this opportunity.

Also after the next cycle lending shud be even more stable and never selling but just borrowing against it maybe like 5-7% rates with banks is the 4d end game for me.
 
Wow, what happened to crypto? I sold ETH around 3600 back in August which looked like a terrible move a few weeks later. But now it doesn't look so bad.

I bought the top in November 2021 and it dropped like a rock after that. 4 years later and history repeated itself.

I think I'll start to DCA into FBTC next year. This cycle made me only want to be in BTC and no other alts.
 
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mentos said:
Wow, what happened to crypto? I sold ETH around 3600 back in August which looked like a terrible move a few weeks later. But now it doesn't look so bad.

I bought the top in November 2021 and it dropped like a rock after that. 4 years later and history repeated itself.

I think I'll start to DCA into FBTC next year. This cycle made me only want to be in BTC and no other alts.
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Welcome back Mentos!!

Yeah it’s been a very disappointing October/November. Was hoping to sell a little BTC this cycle, but looks like I might be hodling another 3-4 years 😂
 
Z-Qualizer said:
Welcome back Mentos!!

Yeah it’s been a very disappointing October/November. Was hoping to sell a little BTC this cycle, but looks like I might be hodling another 3-4 years 😂
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Thanks LoL. Oh man didn't you 3x your money earlier this year? Did you buy back in after that?
 
mentos said:
Thanks LoL. Oh man didn't you 3x your money earlier this year? Did you buy back in after that?
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I sold about 1/3 of my BTC a year ago at 3x. Been holding the other 2/3 with intent to sell more, but didn’t pull the trigger.
 
I read the whales have been buying BTC and ETH during this dump and they're primed for a face ripping pump. Time to re-enter? 😃
 
mentos said:
I read the whales have been buying BTC and ETH during this dump and they're primed for a face ripping pump. Time to re-enter? 😃
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These prices are too high for me… I’ll leave the buying to the whales.
 
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