Becoming a doctor for the status - need advice

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I cant always be blatantly honest on personal statements but I can here (despite getting a lot of flames Im sure) and I know there are a lot of people who have the same dilemma.

People become doctors for various reasons. Im sure you all made it sound like you are all caring, compassionate souls that love to help and cure the sick on your personal statements, that medicine your passion, yadda yadda yadda. But in reality you want to be doctors for other reasons that you cant always disclose in an interview or in an essay. You say money doesnt play a huge role in your decision to pursue medicine, but if doctors were making $40,000 a year - would you still be dreaming of putting on that white coat?

Many people want to be doctors for the money, the status, attracting the opposite gender, or playing the role of a favorite character on a TV sitcom. Oh and they also want to help people as an aside. I am one of these people. Dont get me wrong, I love the subject of medicine and I do enjoy saving a life here and there - but not that much to deal with the lifestyle most doctors have. And frankly I dont care for those idiots that actually deserve to be in a hospital (the drunk drivers who got into an accident, the cocaine addicts that got into a fight, the smokers, the morbidly obese, etc). But helping out an innocent person who is having an asthma attack for example is completely different and represents someone who I actually WANT to help (instead of HAVE to help).

Basically my main reason for becoming a doctor is status, and the other factors play a lesser (but still somewhat significant role). In my little circle of friends, family and general community - status if everything, and being a doctor is at the top. Im sure many asian or east indian students can relate :laugh:

So my question is, how can I get through medical school doing the least work possible and still obtain a degree? Im not keen on losing 6+ years of my life - my youth in fact - dedicating myself to medicine. Obviously there is not much I can do for the first 2 years - its just memorization and regurgitation of information. But how about after that? What can I do to minimize the amount of work (and more importantly, time) that I have to put into this degree?

I should note Id like to do my clinicals in the US and I am already a medical student at SGU.
 
I should note Id like to be an actual licensed MD :laugh:
 
I would suggest you chose a different career. There is a ton of personal sacrifice that comes with the territory of being a physician, the least of which is going to school for an extra couple of years. You might be happiest down the road if you get out now, and pursue a career that your heart is truly in.
 
I cant always be blatantly honest on personal statements but I can here (despite getting a lot of flames Im sure) and I know there are a lot of people who have the same dilemma.

People become doctors for various reasons. Im sure you all made it sound like you are all caring, compassionate souls that love to help and cure the sick on your personal statements, that medicine your passion, yadda yadda yadda. But in reality you want to be doctors for other reasons that you cant always disclose in an interview or in an essay. You say money doesnt play a huge role in your decision to pursue medicine, but if doctors were making $40,000 a year - would you still be dreaming of putting on that white coat?

Many people want to be doctors for the money, the status, attracting the opposite gender, or playing the role of a favorite character on a TV sitcom. Oh and they also want to help people as an aside. I am one of these people. Dont get me wrong, I love the subject of medicine and I do enjoy saving a life here and there - but not that much to deal with the lifestyle most doctors have. And frankly I dont care for those idiots that actually deserve to be in a hospital (the drunk drivers who got into an accident, the cocaine addicts that got into a fight, the smokers, the morbidly obese, etc). But helping out an innocent person who is having an asthma attack for example is completely different and represents someone who I actually WANT to help (instead of HAVE to help).

Basically my main reason for becoming a doctor is status, and the other factors play a lesser (but still somewhat significant role). In my little circle of friends, family and general community - status if everything, and being a doctor is at the top. Im sure many asian or east indian students can relate :laugh:

So my question is, how can I get through medical school doing the least work possible and still obtain a degree? Im not keen on losing 6+ years of my life - my youth in fact - dedicating myself to medicine. Obviously there is not much I can do for the first 2 years - its just memorization and regurgitation of information. But how about after that? What can I do to minimize the amount of work (and more importantly, time) that I have to put into this degree?

I should note Id like to do my clinicals in the US and I am already a medical student at SGU.

please change careers now. for your sake, and more importantly, for your would-be patients.
 
If you plan on getting your MD don't expect it to come easily. Even if you try to do the least amount of work possible to just barely pass and get your MD after 4 years, that "least amount of work possible" will still be a significant amount of work.

I agree with you on what you said that a lot of people want to become a doctor just for the status, that is partially true for myself as well, I'll admit it. But, if you just want the status and it seems that you don't really care about medicine, then why bother?
 
I cant always be blatantly honest on personal statements but I can here (despite getting a lot of flames Im sure) and I know there are a lot of people who have the same dilemma.

People become doctors for various reasons. Im sure you all made it sound like you are all caring, compassionate souls that love to help and cure the sick on your personal statements, that medicine your passion, yadda yadda yadda. But in reality you want to be doctors for other reasons that you cant always disclose in an interview or in an essay. You say money doesnt play a huge role in your decision to pursue medicine, but if doctors were making $40,000 a year - would you still be dreaming of putting on that white coat?

Many people want to be doctors for the money, the status, attracting the opposite gender, or playing the role of a favorite character on a TV sitcom. Oh and they also want to help people as an aside. I am one of these people. Dont get me wrong, I love the subject of medicine and I do enjoy saving a life here and there - but not that much to deal with the lifestyle most doctors have. And frankly I dont care for those idiots that actually deserve to be in a hospital (the drunk drivers who got into an accident, the cocaine addicts that got into a fight, the smokers, the morbidly obese, etc). But helping out an innocent person who is having an asthma attack for example is completely different and represents someone who I actually WANT to help (instead of HAVE to help).

Basically my main reason for becoming a doctor is status, and the other factors play a lesser (but still somewhat significant role). In my little circle of friends, family and general community - status if everything, and being a doctor is at the top. Im sure many asian or east indian students can relate :laugh:

So my question is, how can I get through medical school doing the least work possible and still obtain a degree? Im not keen on losing 6+ years of my life - my youth in fact - dedicating myself to medicine. Obviously there is not much I can do for the first 2 years - its just memorization and regurgitation of information. But how about after that? What can I do to minimize the amount of work (and more importantly, time) that I have to put into this degree?

I should note Id like to do my clinicals in the US and I am already a medical student at SGU.

Somebody call the short school bus, they missed someone on their route today.
 
Doing it for the reason you suggest is fine. Whatever floats your boat. People choose careers for worse reasons that that.

As for getting away with doing the least work - LOL @ you.

In any case, this is going to get ugly:

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I predict that in a few years the OP will make one of those doom and gloom, "Don't Go Into Medicine" threads we see now and then.
 
Doing it for the reason you suggest is fine. Whatever floats your boat. People choose careers for worse reasons that that.

As for getting away with doing the least work - LOL @ you.

In any case, this is going to get ugly:
Yea I already got banned for trolling.. which is really not my intention 🙁

I dont intend to be a bad doctor I guess I gave that impression. I intend to be a damn good doctor, and treat patient I get to the best of my abilities. I just dont want to deal with the horrible lifestyle doctors have where they literally work 80+ (see link) hour weeks with little to no sleep. I want to cherish my youth.
 
Be a psychologist, 2 yr residency and you have an MD... or if ur truly into ONLY the money and esteem get a md/mba and just work as a consultant for certain companies. I rather you screw ppl for money than screw patients of their lives and that is the only reason why im telling you this. Please do not become a physician if you have a starting attitude like this... you will truly be miserable in life and you will make others around you miserable, a.k.a. patients/friends/family. There are other options at play. You will get the MD once you finish SGU so ur already have the title of doctor to show off 2 ur friends and family. Why not get a second degree in something else and use ur knowledge of medicine (which youve aid early that u enjoyed) for something else. Why not spend 2 more years and get a MD/JD and become a malpractice lawyer and make millions f*cking doctors that u so highly regard, you sure have the a**-hole attitude for it. There are other option... PLEASE, PLEASE do not practice medicine, or I will kill you so you wont have to kill another person in ur lifetime.
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[EDIT] I said psychologist when I meant psychiatrist and I said 2 yr when i meant 4 year lol [/EDIT]
 
Screw the bus; we need a short barge for all the people who respond to threads like this seriously...
Troll elsewhere please.. Im asking a legitamate question to decide whether or not I should stay in medicine, and if so, what path I should take
 
Are you a U.S. citizen? If status is everything to you and your friends, how do they feel about the prestige that comes with attending SGU?

Still, you should just change careers. You're right, money and status play a role in everyone's decision to become a doctor, but they should serve to hedge the losses incurred from 80 hr weeks, and making near minimum wage during residency, and studying your *** off in college and med school. They SHOULD NOT be the sole reason for wanting to be a doctor.

Good luck with doing your clinicals in the US, you'll probably have to work extremely hard since your Caribbean, which kind of eliminates your whole goal.

Hopefully when you get some patient interaction you'll realize that it's people's lives we're talking about.

PS. I'm just a freshman in undergrad, so I'm not speaking from experience. This is just how I view things.
 
Be a psychologist, 2 yr residency and you have an MD... or if ur truly into ONLY the money and esteem get a md/mba and just work as a consultant for certain companies. I rather you screw ppl for money than screw patients of their lives and that is the only reason why im telling you this. Please do not become a physician if you have a starting attitude like this... you will truly be miserable in life and you will make others around you miserable, a.k.a. patients/friends/family. There are other options at play. You will get the MD once you finish SGU so ur already have the title of doctor to show off 2 ur friends and family. Why not get a second degree in something else and use ur knowledge of medicine (which youve aid early that u enjoyed) for something else. Why not spend 2 more years and get a MD/JD and become a malpractice lawyer and make millions f*cking doctors that u so highly regard, you sure have the a**-hole attitude for it. There are other option... PLEASE, PLEASE do not practice medicine, or I will kill you so you wont have to kill another person in ur lifetime.
Thank you for your input. One of the MAJOR reasons I wanted to do med was dealing with all the horrible doctors I had over the years. That knew nothing. That werent helpful and only cared about getting to the next patient as quickly as possible. And I truly think doctors get this way because they are overworked.

Again, I intend to be a great doctor. I just want to have a life outside medicine, that is all. I love medicine, but not '7 straight forced to work againt my will 16-hour days' kind of puppy love.
 
Thank you for your input. One of the MAJOR reasons I wanted to do med was dealing with all the horrible doctors I had over the years. That knew nothing. That werent helpful and only cared about getting to the next patient as quickly as possible. And I truly think doctors get this way because they are overworked.

Again, I intend to be a great doctor. I just do not want to have a life outside medicine, that is all.

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:boom:Someone please just close this thread now before my head explodes and I need it for biochem tonite!!
 
To reiterate what I said (shame my original name got banned)

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I dont intend to be a bad doctor I guess I gave that impression. I intend to be a damn good doctor, and treat patient I get to the best of my abilities. I just dont want to deal with the horrible lifestyle doctors have where they literally work 80+ (see link) hour weeks with little to no sleep. I want to cherish my youth.

One of the MAJOR reasons I wanted to do med was dealing with all the horrible doctors I had over the years. That knew nothing. That werent helpful and only cared about getting to the next patient as quickly as possible. And I truly think doctors get this way because they are overworked.

Again, I intend to be a great doctor. I just want to have a life outside medicine, that is all. I love medicine, but not '7 straight forced to work againt my will 16-hour days' kind of puppy love.
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I don't understand why everyone is attacking vaxop. His reasons for becoming a doctor aren't any less valid than yours, even if you don't agree with them.

What makes everyone think that being a doctor is such a noble profession? You aren't above the rest of the world just because you have, or will have, MD after your name. Being a doctor is just a job like any other job. Most people try to get by in their jobs with as little effort as possible, and most people don't choose their profession based on passion or a calling. Why is anyone surprised that there are some doctors who might think this way, there are probably a lot. Doing a job for the "right" reasons doesn't necessarily mean you'll be good at it, just like doing something for the "wrong" reasons doesn't necessarily mean you'll be bad at it.
 
Thank you for your input. One of the MAJOR reasons I wanted to do med was dealing with all the horrible doctors I had over the years. That knew nothing. That werent helpful and only cared about getting to the next patient as quickly as possible. And I truly think doctors get this way because they are overworked.

Again, I intend to be a great doctor. I just want to have a life outside medicine, that is all. I love medicine, but not '7 straight 16-hour days' puppy love.

You could always take some hospital office type jobs like a manger of a hospital. They make sure that doctors do their work right (*cough* yea right) and efficient. Your not gonna help fix horrible doctors habits by being a doctor yourself. You will only be responsible for your own team, resident/nurse/PA and of course yourself. Please look into these jobs. And I agree with previous posts... it will be EXTREMELY difficult and A LOT of work to become a attending physician whatever you do especially since your from the Caribbeans and want to practice in the US. And out of curiosity, what nationality are you?
 
I don't understand why everyone is attacking vaxop. His reasons for becoming a doctor aren't any less valid than yours, even if you don't agree with them.

What makes everyone think that being a doctor is such a noble profession? You aren't above the rest of the world just because you have, or will have, MD after your name. Being a doctor is just a job like any other job. Most people try to get by in their jobs with as little effort as possible, and most people don't choose their profession based on passion or a calling. Why is anyone surprised that there are some doctors who might think this way, there are probably a lot. Doing a job for the "right" reasons doesn't necessarily mean you'll be good at it, just like doing something for the "wrong" reasons doesn't necessarily mean you'll be bad at it.
Thank you kind sir. Who the hell is honestly looking forward to weeks where you work 100 hours???
 
You could always take some hospital office type jobs like a manger of a hospital. They make sure that doctors do their work right (*cough* yea right) and efficient. Your not gonna help fix horrible doctors habits by being a doctor yourself. You will only be responsible for your own team, resident/nurse/PA and of course yourself. Please look into these jobs. And I agree with previous posts... it will be EXTREMELY difficult and A LOT of work to become a attending physician whatever you do especially since your from the Caribbeans and want to practice in the US. And out of curiosity, what nationality are you?
Canadian. But I will be doing my clinicals in the states so it wont be too bad. And I completely disagree with your statement that I will have bad doctor habits. It has been proven time and time again that when you overwork people and take away their lives outside of work, those people will underperform at their jobs.

I dont know why this is so hard to comprehend for some of you. I love medicine, I dont want to do it to a point where I have no life outside medicine. Maybe I should have posted in the non pre-med forum because I really dont think you have any idea of what life is like in clinicals, residency, and post residency.
 
Thank you kind sir. Who the hell is honestly looking forward to weeks where you work 100 hours???

Now not all specialties are that time consuming. But as the saying goes, "there is no such thing as a free lunch." Either you bust your balls now and enjoy the 9 to 5 lifestyle of a competitive residency like dermatology or you let the dices roll and pay for it later.

There is definitely a correlation with hard work and success in any career. Now you could always compromise a hefty pay check for a better schedule but you cant expect to have both without sacrificing something some time or another.

Now the reason for such the angry mob is that what the OP is asking for is just plain unreasonable. We all have those friends who get by life doing the least amount of work and brag about getting to the top. The reality is though, some of them actually do. However, what they are doing is taking a risk. They get lucky, make a couple of good moves and their life is set. However, they could slip at any moment and turn out in the gutter.
 
I'll admit that I don't know many people who won't enjoy the prestige of becoming a medical doctor (or to avoid ridicule in pre-allo an osteopathic medical doctor..). However, that sense of accomplishment and prestige WILL wear away after a few years if its your primary motivation. As the tolls of this profession wear down on you -- loss of autonomy, the g/d HMOs, ingrateful patients, malpractice costs -- you may start to hate it.

That is why helping others should genuinely be a primary motivational factor. Many around here think it is trite to cite this as a reason. It is common, but it is VERY important for medicine. After a while, you WILL have plenty of money and it won't be a concern for you... when that happens, what will you turn to for happiness? You certainly better derive some satisfaction from your career or else you're going to hate 12-14 hours out of each and every day. Make no mistake about it, medicine is not the "easy way out" and it never will be. Even dermatologists/radiologists/opthalmologists/anesthesiologists (ROAD) have a very involved job description compared to most other professions.

I am not a saint. I want to make good money and have nice things and won't mind being called "Doctor" but after 10 years in practice are those things really going to make me happy? Probably not as much as when I diagnose someone's cancer by palpating some barely discernible lymphadenopathy... You have to want to be in charge of someone's health. You have to pride yourself in the work you do... From someone who has cruised through many things in life, I am just letting you knwo that this isn't a profession for "cruisers". It requires constant learning and flexibility. I just dont know if this is the right profession for you. In the end, however, that decision is solely yours.

Best of luck with your career!

To reiterate what I said (shame my original name got banned)

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I dont intend to be a bad doctor I guess I gave that impression. I intend to be a damn good doctor, and treat patient I get to the best of my abilities. I just dont want to deal with the horrible lifestyle doctors have where they literally work 80+ (see link) hour weeks with little to no sleep. I want to cherish my youth.

One of the MAJOR reasons I wanted to do med was dealing with all the horrible doctors I had over the years. That knew nothing. That werent helpful and only cared about getting to the next patient as quickly as possible. And I truly think doctors get this way because they are overworked.

Again, I intend to be a great doctor. I just want to have a life outside medicine, that is all. I love medicine, but not '7 straight forced to work againt my will 16-hour days' kind of puppy love.
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Now not all specialties are that time consuming. But as the saying goes, "there is no such thing as a free lunch." Either you bust your balls now and enjoy the 9 to 5 lifestyle of a competitive residency like dermatology or you let the dices roll and pay for it later.

There is definitely a correlation with hard work and success in any career. Now you could always compromise a hefty pay check for a better schedule but you cant expect to have both without sacrificing something some time or another.

Now the reason for such the angry mob is that what the OP is asking for is just plain unreasonable. We all have those friends who get by life doing the least amount of work and brag about getting to the top. The reality is though, some of them actually do. However, what they are doing is taking a risk. They get lucky, make a couple of good moves and their life is set. However, they could slip at any moment and turn out in the gutter.
Actually not true. I made $700,000 in the last 3 years in the online marketing world. Money isnt a concern for me now for when I choose my career, and that gives me a lot more flexibility
 
I'll admit that I don't know many people who won't enjoy the prestige of becoming a medical doctor (or to avoid ridicule in pre-allo an osteopathic medical doctor..). However, that sense of accomplishment and prestige WILL wear away after a few years if its your primary motivation. As the tolls of this profession wear down on you -- loss of autonomy, the g/d HMOs, ingrateful patients, malpractice costs -- you may start to hate it.

That is why helping others should genuinely be a primary motivational factor. Many around here think it is trite to cite this as a reason. It is common, but it is VERY important for medicine. After a while, you WILL have plenty of money and it won't be a concern for you... when that happens, what will you turn to for happiness? You certainly better derive some satisfaction from your career or else you're going to hate 12-14 hours out of each and every day. Make no mistake about it, medicine is not the "easy way out" and it never will be. Even dermatologists/radiologists/opthalmologists/anesthesiologists (ROAD) have a very involved job description compared to most other professions.

I am not a saint. I want to make good money and have nice things and won't mind being called "Doctor" but after 10 years in practice are those things really going to make me happy? Probably not as much as when I diagnose someone's cancer by palpating some barely discernible lymphadenopathy... You have to want to be in charge of someone's health. You have to pride yourself in the work you do... From someone who has cruised through many things in life, I am just letting you knwo that this isn't a profession for "cruisers". It requires constant learning and flexibility. I just dont know if this is the right profession for you. In the end, however, that decision is solely yours.

Best of luck with your career!

Thanks 🙂. Honestly if I could work a job on my own hours, I would be one happy (and caring) doctor 😛
 
Actually not true. I made $700,000 in the last 3 years in the online marketing world. Money isnt a concern for me now for when I choose my career, and that gives me a lot more flexibility

Is your real name Saul? Do you make money by spamming forums?
What? I'm just curious.
And to go from SGU to a good residency program is difficult, so you should probably not aim to do the least amount of work possible in the next few years. Maybe you can slack once you get into residency, but I'd work hard on the 3rd year rotations.
 
Is your real name Saul? Do you make money by spamming forums?
What? I'm just curious.
And to go from SGU to a good residency program is difficult, so you should probably not aim to do the least amount of work possible in the next few years. Maybe you can slack once you get into residency, but I'd work hard on the 3rd year rotations.
not quite 😛

bleh not looking forward to year 3 🙁
 
Now not all specialties are that time consuming. But as the saying goes, "there is no such thing as a free lunch." Either you bust your balls now and enjoy the 9 to 5 lifestyle of a competitive residency like dermatology or you let the dices roll and pay for it later.
I think this is very unfair to say. There are many people who work extremely hard in medical school and choose to work in specialties that require more time for the simple fact that they want to work in that specific field.
 
To reiterate what I said (shame my original name got banned)

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I dont intend to be a bad doctor I guess I gave that impression. I intend to be a damn good doctor, and treat patient I get to the best of my abilities. I just dont want to deal with the horrible lifestyle doctors have where they literally work 80+ (see link) hour weeks with little to no sleep. I want to cherish my youth.

One of the MAJOR reasons I wanted to do med was dealing with all the horrible doctors I had over the years. That knew nothing. That werent helpful and only cared about getting to the next patient as quickly as possible. And I truly think doctors get this way because they are overworked.

Again, I intend to be a great doctor. I just want to have a life outside medicine, that is all. I love medicine, but not '7 straight forced to work againt my will 16-hour days' kind of puppy love.
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You don't seem to know entirely what you're getting into. Having a life outside of medicine is important, but though med school and residency you're going to be looking at those long days you don't seem to want. Sure you may be able to back off a bit down the line, but that won't be for a very long time (depending on specialty).

Oh and what did you get banned for?
 
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What I believe, is that the reason why being a doctor is held in such high regard is because of the road it takes to get there. If the road to and lifestyle weren't so demanding, anyone could be a doctor, and it would lose whatever prestige it holds. The fact that a doctor does sacrifice his own personal life for the benefit of his or her patients, that is why people respect doctors.

The hard work is the entire basis of the status of the profession.
 
What is that a picture of... it's sweet!!

it's obviously a fake picture, for a half dozen different reasons.

who bails out 1ft off the ground, gg. Beside the fact that there are still a bunch of people sitting in lawn chairs just watching a fighter jet come towards them. At least the cat pictures are funny because they are real.
 
Be a psychologist, 2 yr residency and you have an MD...

A psychologist does not have a) 2 yr residency and b) and MD degree. Psychologists have PhDs (think Dr. Phil). Psychiatrists are the ones that go to med school, have an MD/DO, and the ability to write scripts. Most Psych residencies are 3 or 4 years. Sorry, I'm anal and just wanted to make sure accurate info is displayed...all meant with good intentions(BloodySurg)🙂

I made $700,000 in the last 3 years in the online marketing world. Money isnt a concern for me now for when I choose my career, and that gives me a lot more flexibility
Why on earth would you put yourself in $200,000+ of debt, emotional and physical stress, and making $10/hour in residency (Yes, for as much as you'll work that's how much you will be making right after med school).... for a career you don't love??????

Thanks 🙂. Honestly if I could work a job on my own hours, I would be one happy (and caring) doctor 😛
Hate to break the news, but when you're a physician, you're always on your patient's time, especially when you're NOT on call. Most people enjoy the prestige of being a physician; however, I completely disagree with your opinion that most of them go into medicine for that particular reason. The docs that went in it for status and money are the ones that say constantly say how they should have picked a different career (it's so annoying). If physician's made only $40,000/yr I would still go into medicine because I love it and couldn't see myself doing anything else. If you go into medicine for status, you will be highly disappointed. It's a long, emotionally taxing, expensive road... and frankly, you will be highly disappointed with your own money wasted if you decide to pursue physician-hood.
 
A psychologist does not have a) 2 yr residency and b) and MD degree. Psychologists have PhDs (think Dr. Phil). Psychiatrists are the ones that go to med school, have an MD/DO, and the ability to write scripts. Most Psych residencies are 3 or 4 years. Sorry, I'm anal and just wanted to make sure accurate info is displayed...all meant with good intentions(BloodySurg)🙂

I know the difference b/w the two, just put psychologist as a mistake.. but thank you for correcting me. And you are correct again with the 3-4 year residency I really try to put accurate information down but sometimes I get careless with my writing (talking with an old friend at the same time).
 
It's really a shame to know that some of my friends, who didn't get into medical school this year, are passionate about medicine and potentially lost their seat to people with this kind of attitude. Why didn't you get a PhD in some economically related field like finance? You'd have the title of doctor, to make your parents happy, and you could continue to make tons of money.
 
It's really a shame to know that some of my friends, who didn't get into medical school this year, are passionate about medicine and potentially lost their seat to people with this kind of attitude. Why didn't you get a PhD in some economically related field like finance? You'd have the title of doctor, to make your parents happy, and you could continue to make tons of money.
Why? People go into things with all kinds of motivation. What's the big deal?
 
Why? People go into things with all kinds of motivation. What's the big deal?

Why go into medicine if you are not passionate about it? Isn't it passion in your work that motivates you to get better at what you do? Why embrace mediocrity in one profession when you could be great at something else? Seeking a status and a title in medicine, with the mindset of doing minimal work, makes you a liability to your colleagues, and it is a disservice to your future patients.

Originally Posted by Sartorius24 It's really a shame to know that some of my friends, who didn't get into medical school this year, are passionate about medicine and potentially lost their seat to people with this kind of attitude.
Maybe if they were smarter and worked harder they would have gotten in.

...because not getting into medical school the first time around means you're dumb and have a poor work ethic...right
 
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