Benefits of various GPR's

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OK, so I'm a little confused as to what the benefits are of doing a hospital based GPR if you want to work in private practice. I see programs such as Miami Valley in Dayton, OH that focus heavily on hospital rotations, IV sedation and surgery, but how beneficial is that in private practice?

I want to work in private practice and be very well rounded, but I don't want to chose a GPR program that has a lot of exciting procedures that I wouldn't really do once I'm done with the program.

Does anyone have any advice as to how to approach choosing a GPR?
 
Why don't you consider an aegd? These are more "private practice" oriented. But, you need to be selective because some are considered to be little more than a 5th year of dental school with low pay. U of MD AEGD is excellent, pay not so much.

As for GPR, many programs are actually "hybrid" programs. By this I mean they are GPRs, but function like an AEGD with lots of clinical dentistry and minimal medicine (just enough to be classified as a GPR). These programs offer higher pay, minimal on call and lots of bread n butter dentistry. VAs traditionally offer this hybrid style program.

Now, if you score a spot at a VA AEGD then you struck gold, but I may be biased 🙂 high pay, all private practice style dentistry!
 
Why don't you consider an aegd? These are more "private practice" oriented. But, you need to be selective because some are considered to be little more than a 5th year of dental school with low pay. U of MD AEGD is excellent, pay not so much.

As for GPR, many programs are actually "hybrid" programs. By this I mean they are GPRs, but function like an AEGD with lots of clinical dentistry and minimal medicine (just enough to be classified as a GPR). These programs offer higher pay, minimal on call and lots of bread n butter dentistry. VAs traditionally offer this hybrid style program.

Now, if you score a spot at a VA AEGD then you struck gold, but I may be biased 🙂 high pay, all private practice style dentistry!

Thanks for your words of wisdom HupHolland! I always hear how AEGD's are just an extra year of dental school, so I've been steering clear of them. I actually had no idea that a VA AEGD even existed. You definitely just sparked my interest. Other than Maryland, do you know of any other AEGD programs with a good reputation?
 
Thanks for your words of wisdom HupHolland! I always hear how AEGD's are just an extra year of dental school, so I've been steering clear of them. I actually had no idea that a VA AEGD even existed. You definitely just sparked my interest. Other than Maryland, do you know of any other AEGD programs with a good reputation?

Vcu and Baylor aegd supposed to be good.

Gpr's I had positive experiences and would have gone had I not got into my top choice:
mountain mahec – asheville NC
Lich - Brooklyn NY
Baltimore VA

These are gprs that function a lot like an aegd.

Good luck!
hup
 
I was just wondering if anyone knows what other GPR programs are more hybrid and run like AEGDs? I've been trying to do a lot of research and also searching through the forum but haven't found any good information. Thanks!
 
I was just wondering if anyone knows what other GPR programs are more hybrid and run like AEGDs? I've been trying to do a lot of research and also searching through the forum but haven't found any good information. Thanks!
bump. I would like to know this too. Especially for programs besides the VA hospitals
 
The problem with comparing a GPR and an AEGD is that GPR's have many requirements that are not part of the AEGD self study. For instance, the GPR's are required to do a rotation on medicine or emergency medicine, and a rotation on anesthesia. That is a month out of the clinic right there. If you are at a hospital other than a VA, the on call requirements can be heavy, and you will need training in evaluation and treatment of traumatic injuries, as well as other aspects of hospital protocol. A GPR is not just dentistry, so if that is the question, and you are only interested in doing chairside dentistry, I would select an AEGD. VA programs are also very chairside oriented.
 
The problem with comparing a GPR and an AEGD is that GPR's have many requirements that are not part of the AEGD self study. For instance, the GPR's are required to do a rotation on medicine or emergency medicine, and a rotation on anesthesia. That is a month out of the clinic right there. If you are at a hospital other than a VA, the on call requirements can be heavy, and you will need training in evaluation and treatment of traumatic injuries, as well as other aspects of hospital protocol. A GPR is not just dentistry, so if that is the question, and you are only interested in doing chairside dentistry, I would select an AEGD. VA programs are also very chairside oriented.
This is exactly what confuses me. I see young dentists doing these rigorous GPR's and there intention is to ultimately do general private practice dentistry. I look at their websites and get all excited about the rotations, ER experience, IV sedation etc. But then I think to myself, "What's the point?" How much of an impact will all of that hospital experience have on your private practice?
 
another benefit of GPRs are that a GPR background will help with securing a teaching job down the line if you choose to do so.

btw, does anyone know about lutheran aegds? when searching under the ADA website for accredited aegd programs, none of the lutheran sites show up. what gives?
 
another benefit of GPRs are that a GPR background will help with securing a teaching job down the line if you choose to do so.

btw, does anyone know about lutheran aegds? when searching under the ADA website for accredited aegd programs, none of the lutheran sites show up. what gives?

Here's the link the Lutheran Aegd Programs:

http://lmcdental.lmcmc.com/pub/aegd
 
I did an AEGD but I think GPRs can be beneficial as well. You will be surprised that you can do a lot more in private practice and not have to refer if you feel comfortable doing major extractions and other periodontal procedures. I do a lot of surgical extractions that I would have never thought I would do but it's all in practice.

I did my AEGD at Lutheran in Brooklyn. I think a lot of the other sites for Lutheran AEGD are great, especially the ones with the Indian Health Service -- i.e. Arizona.
 
dentist13, how was ur experience at lutheran AEGD? I'm considering applying there..
 
Here is the way I see it, sitting on the other side of the table, as I am a GPR PD, and a private practice dentist:
The ER rotation provides an opportunity to learn how to take a great history, being mentored by ER attendings and residents, not just dental school instructors. Be able to take a great history, understand basic diagnostic tests and use the physical diagnosis skills we teach you ( our MD oral surgery chiefs teach this).
The OR Anesthesia rotation is an opportunity to learn airway management, and classify your patients according to ASA standards.
Both rotations are a chance to interact with many medical colleagues in a variety of capacities, more chances than perhaps in dental school.

Our residents perform all varieties of dental procedures, real dentistry, not just extractions and operative. Today I ran a master class in implant restoration for the residents at my clinic site, going over step by step clinical procedures, having the resident do the work. Another resident did a crown prep, while another was doing a laser frenectomy with our laser specialist.

Just a glimpse. They are also doing real surgical extractions, and are currently being prepped by our periodontist to do their own surgeries. Do they do exams and operative? Yes. So do I in my office. It is not always the most exciting day. It is not always the most exciting day in my office, but there are enough of them to maintain interest. The didactic program is very good, and we have speakers from not only our department, but the ED, plastics and anesthesia.

The residents are going to the OR on full mouth oral rehab cases, trauma cases, orthognathics, and pediatric cases. Will you go to the OR as a private practice dentist? Probably not. I haven't. But there is a big difference between talking about orthognathic surgery and seeing it done. Even if you don't do it, what about the patient in your office who needs it? Your knowledge base is just that much more. You read about ameloblastomas in oral path, but seeing the slides, path report, mandibular resection, and reconstruction are a lot different.

Our hands on implant course is about to start. The advanced course will be given in the spring.
The point is this is an entire year to experience things that you may never have a chance to do again. A chance to try new things (Surgery, laser, laser bleaching, rotary endo, new materials) at no expense. Find out what you like, what you don't like, there is much more exposure in a residency, especially a busy one. In a multispecialty clinic like ours, there is always someone to consult, and the emphasis is on getting things done, not just pushing patients in and out the door.
The GPR I did back in the 80's was nothing like the one I work at. We have moved into the 21st century and our mission is to provide training to new grads to work optimally and ethically. Are we perfect? NO. I have not been to a GPR that is. WE do a good job and the residents graduate prepared to enter the workforce. I think the GPR completes the training received in dental school and creates a more well rounded practitioner
 
I'm also interested in knowing what the good AEGD or GPR programs are. I've recently started looking into this and I'm a bit overwhelmed with how many there are. How do I know which ones offer the best clinical experience?
I'm looking for one with a lot of dental work - a little of everything - prosth, endo, restorative. I'm not interested that much in anesthesia and the like. I understand the importance of general medicine rotations but since I won't really perform any of those in private practice I'd rather concentrate on improving my speed and be comfortable doing a wider range of procedures.

I'd appreciate any info I can get about what the better programs are throughout the US.
Thank you!
 
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