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i wanted to know what are the best developed countries to get medical residencies in for International medical graduates (Pakistani national with a medical degree from Bulgaria) in terms of ease of getting residency, job prospects, immigration etc. As i intend to practice in that country indefinitely, immigration and job prospects are important factors for me. Maybe you guys can briefly describe the situation in the following countries ,now and in the future, and also recommend one according to experience and information. 1) USA 2) Canada 3) UK 4) Ireland 5) Australia & New Zealand 6) Western European Union countries like Germany, Sweden etc
 

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Hello guys !

i wanted to know what are the best developed countries to get medical residencies in for International medical graduates (Pakistani national with a medical degree from Bulgaria) in terms of ease of getting residency, job prospects, immigration etc. As i intend to practice in that country indefinitely, immigration and job prospects are important factors for me. Maybe you guys can briefly describe the situation in the following countries ,now and in the future, and also recommend one according to experience and information. 1) USA 2) Canada 3) UK 4) Ireland 5) Australia & New Zealand 6) Western European Union countries like Germany, Sweden etc
Given President Trump's agenda on immigrants, you might explore non-US countries. Foreign Medical Grads (non-US born physicians) are having a really hard with staying in America. I live in USA

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Canada is nearly impossible for IMG's.
I heard it's not too difficult to immigrate to Canada if you are young non-criminal professional. It's probably a different issue non-Canadian MDs.
 

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As a Nz'er, Australia and NZ will be near impossible as all the spots they have go straight to the grads from those countries and there's no room for others really, although you could try I guess.

UK is also impossible I believe, friend told me this; he said you basically have to have a UK passport and
 

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I heard it's not too difficult to immigrate to Canada if you are young non-criminal professional. It's probably a different issue non-Canadian MDs.
I'm Canadian. Our process is long as hell (multiple years). There is no guarantee your medical license will even transfer over. Most of these IMG positions are filled by Canadians that attend US medical schools.
 

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Canada - you need a PR/citizenship to even apply for residency.
Aus/NZ - no spots
UK/Ireland - you need a EU passport
Germany/Sweden - you need to be proficient in their language first in order to apply for residency
For the latter three, you can apply but the likelihood of getting a residency is extremely slim.

In other words, US is your best option out of the ones listed.
 
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I heard it's not too difficult to immigrate to Canada if you are young non-criminal professional. It's probably a different issue non-Canadian MDs.
Without a Canadian PR/Citizenship, you're rejected right off the bat. That's a specific requirement needed for getting a Canadian residency.
 
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Won't getting a residency and immigrating to the US permanently also become harder in 5-6 years? The political atmosphere seems to be quite uncertain and some say the increased number of US medical schools will affect IMGs in 4-5 years time. But since i just have an 'outsiders' view, i was hoping people who are better equipped to answer can help in this case.
 

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Won't getting a residency and immigrating to the US permanently also become harder in 5-6 years? The political atmosphere seems to be quite uncertain and some say the increased number of US medical schools will affect IMGs in 4-5 years time. But since i just have an 'outsiders' view, i was hoping people who are better equipped to answer can help in this case.
This is very true. DO's are gobbling up those residency positions. I would not want to be an IMG in 4-5 years.
 
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So what about EU countries like Germany and Sweden? Are they better alternative prospects for residency and immigration?
 

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Hello guys !

i wanted to know what are the best developed countries to get medical residencies in for International medical graduates (Pakistani national with a medical degree from Bulgaria) in terms of ease of getting residency, job prospects, immigration etc. As i intend to practice in that country indefinitely, immigration and job prospects are important factors for me. Maybe you guys can briefly describe the situation in the following countries ,now and in the future, and also recommend one according to experience and information. 1) USA 2) Canada 3) UK 4) Ireland 5) Australia & New Zealand 6) Western European Union countries like Germany, Sweden etc
Try Spain, Argentina, Chile, Mexico!

In Spain you take a test (called MIR) and if you pass you compete with everyone else on the same footing, Spanish citizens included. That means that if you get the highest score in the country you get to pick the specialty and location that you want. No dealing with LORs, IVs, etc.

After you complete training in Spain you can move to any other EU country although I don't know why you would do that. Spain is awesome.

In Mexico and Argentina you pay for the training. I'm not sure about Chile.
 
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Currently, i don't. But assuming i am able to learn the language, are they good alternatives or is getting a medical residency for a non-EU national be significantly difficult?
That's quite the assumption! It's not unheard of provided that you somehow manage to gain lawful residence in the country (most of the non-eu nationals are middle-eastern refugees). I'm not familiar with the immigration process for non-eu physicians. I suspect it's difficult (if at all possible). Your background will put you at a large disadvantage either way, but if you are fine with something like family medicine in a rural area you could make it happen (Sweden). More realistically you should save yourself the trouble and look for opportunities in an English speaking country. That's just my 2 cents.
 
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That's quite the assumption! It's not unheard of provided that you somehow manage to gain lawful residence in the country (most of the non-eu nationals are middle-eastern refugees). I'm not familiar with the immigration process for non-eu physicians. I suspect it's difficult (if at all possible). Your background will put you at a large disadvantage either way, but if you are fine with something like family medicine in a rural area you could make it happen (Sweden). More realistically you should save yourself the trouble and look for opportunities in an English speaking country. That's just my 2 cents.

Which English-speaking countries would you recommend?
 
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Hi all,

I am a doctor from China with a few years of clinical experience and I would like to ask about working situation in Anaesthesia in Germany.
I would like to ask if there are any small towns / places that you would recommend to work in to be good for training in anaesthesia.

Thank you very much for all your help!!
 

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Hi all,

I am a doctor from China with a few years of clinical experience and I would like to ask about working situation in Anaesthesia in Germany.
I would like to ask if there are any small towns / places that you would recommend to work in to be good for training in anaesthesia.

Thank you very much for all your help!!
CHINA NUMBA WAN.
 

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Hello guys !

i wanted to know what are the best developed countries to get medical residencies in for International medical graduates (Pakistani national with a medical degree from Bulgaria) in terms of ease of getting residency, job prospects, immigration etc. As i intend to practice in that country indefinitely, immigration and job prospects are important factors for me. Maybe you guys can briefly describe the situation in the following countries ,now and in the future, and also recommend one according to experience and information. 1) USA 2) Canada 3) UK 4) Ireland 5) Australia & New Zealand 6) Western European Union countries like Germany, Sweden etc
I think Pakistan is the best option for you. You have the citizenship, you know the language, you've been steeped in the culture. Furthermore, Pakistan is in a desperate need of physicians. Don't believe the propaganda: there is no doctor shortage in the USA or anywhere else in the Western world, we (the domestically trained doctors) got this. In the USA we have 2.3 physicians per 1000 people; the corresponding number for Pakistan is .74 per 1000.

I'm deeply moved by your selfless desire to help patients in the OECD nations, but I don't want to see you suffer by spending years jumping through immigration and licensing hoops when the road to helping the people of Pakistan is wide open for you. Don't worry about the patients in America, Australasia and Europe: we've got your back on this end:highfive:
 
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Currently, i don't. But assuming i am able to learn the language, are they good alternatives or is getting a medical residency for a non-EU national be significantly difficult?
Hi there, you can actually get your license easier in Germany than in Ca/US. (If you are a specialist might go easier ) You can learn the language in less than a year and have a permission to work right after.
 
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