best prosthodontic residency program

[100dy]

I am a foreign trained dentsit and I am looking for good residency program to apply for this year. Anyone know what program give stipend as well as has solid program ?

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[bitecys]

I am a foreign trained dentsit and I am looking for good residency program to apply for this year. Anyone know what program give stipend as well as has solid program ?

The best prosth residency is the one that you choose not to do and go into private practice.

 

[drhobie7]

I've heard UCLA's is good. They do a ton of implant and full mouth cases.

 

[ipodphone]

dude, prosth is miserable. talk about dying specialties. dont get me wrong, prosth is big money, but many schools have phased out residencies. try a GPR if you want to do that stuff.

 

[Jediwendell]

San Antonio has a very good prosthodontic residency. If you want the best try there, Michigan, UNC, or maybe Baylor.

 

[Dr. Dai Phan]

dude, prosth is miserable. talk about dying specialties. dont get me wrong, prosth is big money, but many schools have phased out residencies. try a GPR if you want to do that stuff.

Miserable? Dying specialty? Do you have the reference for your statement or did you just pull this out of your ____? DP

 

[drhobie7]

I definitely don't think pros is a dying specialty and haven't seen any indication of that. I do believe it will head more towards implant assisted/supported prostheses as opposed to removable dentures. In my opinion implant based prosthetic treatment is often more complicated that removable prosthetic treatment. I think it's a great specialty and have a lot of respect for them.

 

[nacure]

I've heard UCLA's is good. They do a ton of implant and full mouth cases.

I heard that more and more pros programs involve implant placement.
I love prosthodontics but I think it has serious limitation in implantology.
Many cases need bone and soft tissue grafting.
And when it comes to soft tissue esthetics, excellent skills in flap management become more essential.
Can I learn it in prostho programs?
It's quite different from tooth preperation..

 

[drhobie7]

I heard that more and more pros programs involve implant placement.
I love prosthodontics but I think it has serious limitation in implantology.
Many cases need bone and soft tissue grafting.
And when it comes to soft tissue esthetics, excellent skills in flap management become more essential.
Can I learn it in prostho programs?
It's quite different from tooth preperation..

You can learn that in an oral surgery program. No other residency adequately prepares a person to care for the spectrum of bone or soft tissue augmentation required for the current (and aging) dental implant patient. Some would argue perio is capable of this. I believe they are able to do simple cases with minor bone deficiencies, such as cases that can be handled with "bone in a bottle". Harvesting of autogenous grafts, distraction osteogenesis, multiple implant placement, sinus lifts...these are best handled by those with comprehensive surgical training and the ability to manage the complications that inevitably arise.

Pros is about planning and creating the prosthesis. Pros will not give you a large experience in implant placement, although many pros programs now require their residents to place implants. However, the kind of implant cases a prosthodontist will do are often best handled by an experienced surgeon. These frequently involve bone augmentation and placement of several implants where angulation is critical.

 

[finallyfree123]

I have heard the program at Texas A&M in Baylor college of dentistry is good. All the staff members are graduated prosthodontists, and the y do have stipends and student aid programs, even if you aren't a resident.

 

[Dr. Dai Phan]

The best prosthodontic programs are the programs that are heavy on implant restorations and ones that require lab work by the residents. If you go through a program without doing your own lab work, you will be at serious disadvantage as you will not know how the laboratory process works. You need to call and inquire about the curriculum. Prosthodontic residency is VERY DEMANDING and requires a lot of hard work. If you are a 8-5 person, think about other specialties instead. Sure it is not glamorous as endo, OS or ortho, but you are the master treatment planner of a case. And that's why it is very rewarding. Also, being a prosthodontist makes you very marketable as dentistry is 90% restorative. DP

 

[rocknightmare]

i saw a sign outside our dean's office today.. there is a new prosth residency opening at the va center in washington, dc... you may wanna look at that..

 

[nacure]

i saw a sign outside our dean's office today.. there is a new prosth residency opening at the va center in washington, dc... you may wanna look at that..

So, it is definately not a dying specialty.

 

[Prosthodental]

So, it is definately not a dying specialty.

I know a very good Prostho Program: University of Maryland! This program is ranked No.1 in the filed of prostho! You will learn a lot and they place implants! If you wonder how much the income is: check out the ACP website and you see that close to 10% earn 1,000,000 and above!
This can not be the same income as a GP, right? Average is around 500,000 !
To those who are not inetrested in this specialty, do not give wrong information!
Prostho is great!

 

[drhobie7]

I know a very good Prostho Program: University of Maryland! This program is ranked No.1 in the filed of prostho! You will learn a lot and they place implants! If you wonder how much the income is: check out the ACP website and you see that close to 10% earn 1,000,000 and above!
This can not be the same income as a GP, right? Average is around 500,000 !
To those who are not inetrested in this specialty, do not give wrong information!
Prostho is great!

I'm certain these figures are gross not net. Pros has a high overhead due to the lab fees. Clearly you have the potential to make a nice income, but I highly doubt anyone does pros for the money.

 

[ItsGavinC]

Miserable? ...Do you have the reference for your statement or did you just pull this out of your ____? DP

The reference is dental school.

 

[GQ1]

The best prosth residency is the one that you choose not to do and go into private practice.

nice one bite cyst, graduate before you even think of passing off your dumb information as fact.....US dept of labor and statistics has pros as the 6th highest earning profession in the nation...omfs is no.1. in dentistry. i ve attached the forbes link below


http://www.forbes.com/2006/05/20/best-paying-jobs_cx_pm_06work_0523jobs.html

as this is based on tax returns the pecking order is more important and probably more accurate than the amount, i think its straight forward to conclude that the Dept of Labor and statistics is more reliable than the self reported survey a dentist fills in 2 mins and 30% will mail back to the ADA for their average incomes list.

 

[Dr. Dai Phan]

No doubt pros has the HIGHEST overhead in the dental specialties. We are taking about 60-70%. However, if you are very good in esthetics and take in big cases, you will easily take home 300ish net. I have met and looked at their W-2 forms from the prosthodontists I know. Nowadays, implants and veneers are the things to be good at. DP

 

[GQ1]

The reference is dental school.

I wouldn't take advice about prosth from someone who once claimed the following:

"Something I've learned since being in clinic is that you really don't need or want much anatomical form to the crown prep..."

"...He makes all his preps dome shaped on the occlusal. I've taken to doing that as well."

Talk to people who know something about pros, not Gavin "ItsDomeShaped" C

 

[Dr. Dai Phan]

I wouldn't take advice about prosth from someone who once claimed the following:

"Something I've learned since being in clinic is that you really don't need or want much anatomical form to the crown prep..."

"...He makes all his preps dome shaped on the occlusal. I've taken to doing that as well."

Talk to people who know something about pros, not Gavin "ItsDomeShaped" C

That's why there other specialties that people can escape from pros such as ortho, endo, perio or OS. DP

 

[monsol]

hi
i'm an international trained dentist graduated from Damascus university 2005
now i'm attending 3years post-grad master program at Damascus university, Syria my NBDEpart1 score is 90 and my Toefl 630...
i intend to seek admission in a prosth residency program at a dental school in united states and i have to questions
1-Do i have a chance to achieve that
2-When finishing can i work in the states without extra advanced standing program

 

[Dr. Dai Phan]

hi
i'm an international trained dentist graduated from Damascus university 2005
now i'm attending 3years post-grad master program at Damascus university, Syria my NBDEpart1 score is 90 and my Toefl 630...
i intend to seek admission in a prosth residency program at a dental school in united states and i have to questions
1-Do i have a chance to achieve that
2-When finishing can i work in the states without extra advanced standing program

If you look at the resident pool in prosthodontics, you will see there are many foreign graduates. However, from my experience is that they tend to struggle more than US grads. You must have an absolute command of all basic restorative procedures before you apply to US grad pros. program or you will struggle. I have known many international grads who could not tell me the difference between a full gold crown preparation versus an all ceramic one! So Yes, if you have the grades and Board scores, you will get admission to US pros. program. However, getting graduated is another story. DP

 

[Roxicodone]

I see you are rooted in LA. do you like it? Is the prosth program super competitve? Can a dental student gain admission straight out of school? (i'm in my 3rd year) How can I convince my husband that LA is a decent place to live?

 

[Roxicodone]

I am looking at prosth programs in your states--Iowa, Ohio, and Texas. How would you rate your (pre-doc or residency ) experience? (regarless of specialty, but ESP. if you are a prosth resident.

 

[drben]

nice one bite cyst, graduate before you even think of passing off your dumb information as fact.....US dept of labor and statistics has pros as the 6th highest earning profession in the nation...omfs is no.1. in dentistry. i ve attached the forbes link below


http://www.forbes.com/2006/05/20/best-paying-jobs_cx_pm_06work_0523jobs.html

as this is based on tax returns the pecking order is more important and probably more accurate than the amount, i think its straight forward to conclude that the Dept of Labor and statistics is more reliable than the self reported survey a dentist fills in 2 mins and 30% will mail back to the ADA for their average incomes list.

You would be wrong...I don't know ANY oral surgeon making less than 300K a year. Trust me, self reported income is much more accurate than income reported to the IRS, or data derived from doctors and dentists working in "corporate" medicine/dentistry.

Ben

 

[Dr.McSultry]

I can't believe nobody mentioned MAYO CLINIC...the place is close to being the Mecca for implant-related prosthodontics.
Pittbsurgh's getting a new director for their Grad. Prosth program - guy's an great clinician and educator...took over the Implant Center from Misch's direction. Oh and they're getting a new Implant Center as well...should be up and running by the end of summer.
Classmate of mine got into Maryland Grad. prosth...only had good things to say about it.

One love

 

[Roxicodone]

Classmate of mine got into Maryland Grad. prosth...only had good things to say about it.

Like what? More details please!!

Rjs

 

[upch]

Hi, I am an international DDS from South America.
I traveled around a lot of prostho programs in the states looking for the best program could suit me.
And as far as I see and compare this are the top. This list is not in order. Everything is based in curriculum, faculties and costs.

UIC, Texas San Antonio, OHIO, Indiana, Mayo, Maryland, North Carolina, Texas Houston, Ucla, NYU. Harvard.
Best whishes

 

[123dentist]

University of Minnesota is probably on the top of the list if you are looking at bad programs. It was good in the past but now it is just BAD. There are no instructors...Co-Director is not even board certified, I met this guy once and his attitude sucks. I flew in to meet the faculty and met this jerk! What a waste of money.

 

[Prosthodontist]

Does anyone have any ideas/comments about Pros programs at MCG dental.
Please post

 

[baddog]

Best Pros program no doubt is at UTHSCSA San Antonio. Up to date computer implant planning, lots of patients and nice clinic. Stipend not great but San Antonio has low cost of living and nice warm weather!

 

[Rube]

No doubt pros has the HIGHEST overhead in the dental specialties. We are taking about 60-70%. However, if you are very good in esthetics and take in big cases, you will easily take home 300ish net. I have met and looked at their W-2 forms from the prosthodontists I know. Nowadays, implants and veneers are the things to be good at. DP

Not to crap on 300 K, but a hard-working general practitioner in the suburbs will make 300 and won't have had to give up three years of income and pay tuition. I recently heard a quote from a newly board-certified prosthodontist who said

if you're looking to make money don't go into pros

However, there are other very good reasons to get into prosthodontics besides the money. One of the reasons is that you are simply better at restorative cases than anyone else.

 

[nhasigioi]

What board scores/class rank do they look for? Thanks.

 

[ICrownUrTeeth]

If you look at the Nash study, they actually show how much prosthodontists make on an average compared to general dentists.

http://jada.ada.org/cgi/reprint/136/8/1154

However, you also have to take account that this is an average number. As i recall, not all the prosthodontists in this study are in private practice.

And its not just the money, patients get better overall care from a specialist as compared to most general dentists.

Not to crap on 300 K, but a hard-working general practitioner in the suburbs will make 300 and won't have had to give up three years of income and pay tuition. I recently heard a quote from a newly board-certified prosthodontist who said

However, there are other very good reasons to get into prosthodontics besides the money. One of the reasons is that you are simply better at restorative cases than anyone else.

 

[ICrownUrTeeth]

I think prosth is one of the specialities that get crap on a lot because most people graduating from dental school do not really understand what prosth is as a speciality. Just because you are taught how to prep teeth and make a couple of dentures does not make you anywhere close to a specialist. How many people graduating from a dental school can really do a full mouth rehab (and i dont mean just fix)? Know how to properly restore a case? or quote me some literature to back up what you do clinically?

I hear this all the time from general dentists. "Tell me what you can do that i cant do?"

Yes you can prep teeth, but you can train any monkey to prep teeth.

Heck, i think prosth should do what other specialties do in dental school. Stop training dental students to make (fix and removable) dentures. Let at ortho, how many people graduating from dental school have actually done ortho cases (not talking abt invislign)? How about perio, how many people here have actually done perio surgery and implant placement?

Okay im being sarcastic here.

The reason why dentists refer things out is either they dont want to do it, or they just dont have the knowledge to do the procedure. Just because you can prep some teeth does not make you on an equal level as someone who has more training than you. Dont get me wrong, there are tons of great general dentists out there. But if you start treating cases that is beyond your abilities, the person that suffers is your patient (or maybe you).

The bottom line is, you graduate dental school on an understanding level. As for people that say that prosth is a dying speciality, well, look again. Don't expect CE classes or a 1 year residency to teach you everything you can know. Heck, ive been there. I can tell you, its not possible.

 

[NileBDS]

I think prosth is one of the specialities that get crap on a lot because most people graduating from dental school do not really understand what prosth is as a speciality. Just because you are taught how to prep teeth and make a couple of dentures does not make you anywhere close to a specialist. How many people graduating from a dental school can really do a full mouth rehab (and i dont mean just fix)? Know how to properly restore a case? or quote me some literature to back up what you do clinically?

I hear this all the time from general dentists. "Tell me what you can do that i cant do?"

Yes you can prep teeth, but you can train any monkey to prep teeth.

Heck, i think prosth should do what other specialties do in dental school. Stop training dental students to make (fix and removable) dentures. Let at ortho, how many people graduating from dental school have actually done ortho cases (not talking abt invislign)? How about perio, how many people here have actually done perio surgery and implant placement?

Okay im being sarcastic here.

The reason why dentists refer things out is either they dont want to do it, or they just dont have the knowledge to do the procedure. Just because you can prep some teeth does not make you on an equal level as someone who has more training than you. Dont get me wrong, there are tons of great general dentists out there. But if you start treating cases that is beyond your abilities, the person that suffers is your patient (or maybe you).

The bottom line is, you graduate dental school on an understanding level. As for people that say that prosth is a dying speciality, well, look again. Don't expect CE classes or a 1 year residency to teach you everything you can know. Heck, ive been there. I can tell you, its not possible.

"On the basis of our findings, after
incurring all educational expenses, the prosthodontist
can be expected to earn $5,700 more per
year in present value terms than what he or she
would be expected to earn as a GP."

My only bone to pick with prosthodontists, is the fact that from their residency training on, everything looks like a full mouth case to them. When all you've got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

 

[ICrownUrTeeth]

"On the basis of our findings, after
incurring all educational expenses, the prosthodontist
can be expected to earn $5,700 more per
year in present value terms than what he or she
would be expected to earn as a GP."

My only bone to pick with prosthodontists, is the fact that from their residency training on, everything looks like a full mouth case to them. When all you've got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

oops

 

[ICrownUrTeeth]

Like i said.. its an average number. My mentor makes a whole LOT more than that a year.

And second of all, prosthdontists are trained to restore the full mouth back to health. They don't aim to do patch work dentistry. They evaluate occlusion, muscles of mastication, and the joints (aside from the regular things like oral cancer eval.. etc etc) and then formulate a treatment plan. Now, how many of your patient do you truely evaluate all these criterias? I haven't seen very many dentist even do a diagostic mounting (yes, i have seen them take diagnostic casts but thats about it). And i don't agree with you about prosthodontists aim to do full mouth cases on every patient. There are tons of limited treatment cases that i have seen prosthodontist do. How complex the treatment plan depends on a lot of different factors. If you dont know the reason why they aim to do such complex cases, maybe you should ask.

Now, if you are like the general dentist that i grew up seeing, and all you do is look at your patients teeth to see whats missing or what carious lesions they have developed, then maybe you're the who has truely developed tunnel vision.

The same can be said about a lot of dentists out in the private practice world. There are tons out there that grossly over treatment plan. For example, I'm sure you have seen patients with veneers that does all the way back to the 1st molar (even 2nd). How many of those patients do you really think need veneers? "Cosmetic dentists" all they can think of is one thing.. veneer veneer veneer bleaching... My friend went to see a dentist for a cleaning, and he wanted to veneer all her teeth. By the way, she had ortho done, nothing wrong with her smile, but he wanted to veneer her teeth anyways.

Okay i shouldn't generalize like that since i have a lot of friends that are great general dentists But you shouldn't either.

If you ever take any CE classes, i highly recommend the ones from panky institute or Dawson. They will really change the way you see dentistry and let you practice on a different level.

Again, don't take this the wrong way. If you're just graduating from dental school, you're not in the position to say much. I know UOP is a great school. You guys get great experience, but you're still very limited in what you know.
Trust me, I graduated from dental school, did 2 residencies, and i still feel like i do not know anything.

It is very true what they say, the more you learn about something, the more you know how much you really don't know. ba

 

[armorshell]

Like i said.. its an average number. My mentor makes a whole LOT more than that a year.

And second of all, prosthdontists are trained to restore the full mouth back to health. They don't aim to do patch work dentistry. They evaluate occlusion, muscles of mastication, and the joints (aside from the regular things like oral cancer eval.. etc etc) and then formulate a treatment plan. Now, how many of your patient do you truely evaluate all these criterias? I haven't seen very many dentist even do a diagostic mounting (yes, i have seen them take diagnostic casts but thats about it). And i don't agree with you about prosthodontists aim to do full mouth cases on every patient. There are tons of limited treatment cases that i have seen prosthodontist do. How complex the treatment plan depends on a lot of different factors. If you dont know the reason why they aim to do such complex cases, maybe you should ask.

Now, if you are like the general dentist that i grew up seeing, and all you do is look at your patients teeth to see whats missing or what carious lesions they have developed, then maybe you're the who has truely developed tunnel vision.

The same can be said about a lot of dentists out in the private practice world. There are tons out there that grossly over treatment plan. For example, I'm sure you have seen patients with veneers that does all the way back to the 1st molar (even 2nd). How many of those patients do you really think need veneers? "Cosmetic dentists" all they can think of is one thing.. veneer veneer veneer bleaching... My friend went to see a dentist for a cleaning, and he wanted to veneer all her teeth. By the way, she had ortho done, nothing wrong with her smile, but he wanted to veneer her teeth anyways.

Okay i shouldn't generalize like that since i have a lot of friends that are great general dentists But you shouldn't either.

If you ever take any CE classes, i highly recommend the ones from panky institute or Dawson. They will really change the way you see dentistry and let you practice on a different level.

Again, don't take this the wrong way. If you're just graduating from dental school, you're not in the position to say much. I know UOP is a great school. You guys get great experience, but you're still very limited in what you know.
Trust me, I graduated from dental school, did 2 residencies, and i still feel like i do not know anything.

It is very true what they say, the more you learn about something, the more you know how much you really don't know. ba

You've keyholed general dentists the same way Nile keyholed prosthodontists, so pot, meet kettle. He's probably right to a degree as well. I can't speak for prosthodontists, but I've heard OS residents treatment plan, and I'll tell you the phrase "root canal" wasn't thrown around too often.

 

[ICrownUrTeeth]

You've keyholed general dentists the same way Nile keyholed prosthodontists, so pot, meet kettle. He's probably right to a degree as well. I can't speak for prosthodontists, but I've heard OS residents treatment plan, and I'll tell you the phrase "root canal" wasn't thrown around too often.

Specialists do get tunnel visioned too. I'm not denying that, but Prosth is probably the only speciality that have more of grasp on other specialities as well. Thats why they are good at treatment planning.

To say that prosthdontists purposely treatment planning everything like its a full mouth case, its quite a generalization. You dont know the case (you probably dont know what you are looking for either), so how can you really say that.

 

[clickytop]

Like i said.. its an average number. My mentor makes a whole LOT more than that a year.

And second of all, prosthdontists are trained to restore the full mouth back to health. They don't aim to do patch work dentistry. They evaluate occlusion, muscles of mastication, and the joints (aside from the regular things like oral cancer eval.. etc etc) and then formulate a treatment plan. Now, how many of your patient do you truely evaluate all these criterias? I haven't seen very many dentist even do a diagostic mounting (yes, i have seen them take diagnostic casts but thats about it). And i don't agree with you about prosthodontists aim to do full mouth cases on every patient. There are tons of limited treatment cases that i have seen prosthodontist do. How complex the treatment plan depends on a lot of different factors. If you dont know the reason why they aim to do such complex cases, maybe you should ask.

Now, if you are like the general dentist that i grew up seeing, and all you do is look at your patients teeth to see whats missing or what carious lesions they have developed, then maybe you're the who has truely developed tunnel vision.

The same can be said about a lot of dentists out in the private practice world. There are tons out there that grossly over treatment plan. For example, I'm sure you have seen patients with veneers that does all the way back to the 1st molar (even 2nd). How many of those patients do you really think need veneers? "Cosmetic dentists" all they can think of is one thing.. veneer veneer veneer bleaching... My friend went to see a dentist for a cleaning, and he wanted to veneer all her teeth. By the way, she had ortho done, nothing wrong with her smile, but he wanted to veneer her teeth anyways.

Okay i shouldn't generalize like that since i have a lot of friends that are great general dentists But you shouldn't either.

If you ever take any CE classes, i highly recommend the ones from panky institute or Dawson. They will really change the way you see dentistry and let you practice on a different level.

Again, don't take this the wrong way. If you're just graduating from dental school, you're not in the position to say much. I know UOP is a great school. You guys get great experience, but you're still very limited in what you know.
Trust me, I graduated from dental school, did 2 residencies, and i still feel like i do not know anything.

It is very true what they say, the more you learn about something, the more you know how much you really don't know. ba

Just curious, but how does a resident, who is presumably deeply in debt, afford classes from big league hitters like Dawson or Pankey? Do they give discounts to students who take their CE classes?

 

[NileBDS]

You've keyholed general dentists the same way Nile keyholed prosthodontists, so pot, meet kettle.

... I can't speak for prosthodontists, but I've heard OS residents treatment plan, and I'll tell you the phrase "root canal" wasn't thrown around too often.

They do ?

 

[NileBDS]

Like i said.. its an average number. My mentor makes a whole LOT more than that a year.

And second of all, prosthdontists are trained to restore the full mouth back to health. They don't aim to do patch work dentistry. They evaluate occlusion, muscles of mastication, and the joints (aside from the regular things like oral cancer eval.. etc etc) and then formulate a treatment plan. Now, how many of your patient do you truely evaluate all these criterias? I haven't seen very many dentist even do a diagostic mounting (yes, i have seen them take diagnostic casts but thats about it). And i don't agree with you about prosthodontists aim to do full mouth cases on every patient. There are tons of limited treatment cases that i have seen prosthodontist do. How complex the treatment plan depends on a lot of different factors. If you dont know the reason why they aim to do such complex cases, maybe you should ask.

Now, if you are like the general dentist that i grew up seeing, and all you do is look at your patients teeth to see whats missing or what carious lesions they have developed, then maybe you're the who has truely developed tunnel vision.

The same can be said about a lot of dentists out in the private practice world. There are tons out there that grossly over treatment plan. For example, I'm sure you have seen patients with veneers that does all the way back to the 1st molar (even 2nd). How many of those patients do you really think need veneers? "Cosmetic dentists" all they can think of is one thing.. veneer veneer veneer bleaching... My friend went to see a dentist for a cleaning, and he wanted to veneer all her teeth. By the way, she had ortho done, nothing wrong with her smile, but he wanted to veneer her teeth anyways.

Okay i shouldn't generalize like that since i have a lot of friends that are great general dentists But you shouldn't either.

If you ever take any CE classes, i highly recommend the ones from panky institute or Dawson. They will really change the way you see dentistry and let you practice on a different level.

Again, don't take this the wrong way. If you're just graduating from dental school, you're not in the position to say much. I know UOP is a great school. You guys get great experience, but you're still very limited in what you know.
Trust me, I graduated from dental school, did 2 residencies, and i still feel like i do not know anything.

It is very true what they say, the more you learn about something, the more you know how much you really don't know. ba

You're right, what do I know ...

As an aside, I'm sure that prosthodontists take home major $$$, which is why I pointed out this study's lame conclusion. I am not sure how they reached it, but it did not make much sense to me.

 

[ICrownUrTeeth]

Just curious, but how does a resident, who is presumably deeply in debt, afford classes from big league hitters like Dawson or Pankey? Do they give discounts to students who take their CE classes?

I don't think they give you discounts. Try calling them. They have really nice facilities.

 

[prechilill]

If you don't mind the time, there are a few combined perio/prosth programs. If you don't want to do that, get a prosth or perio certificate and then enroll in Tarnow's NYU implant program. Regardless of what you choose to do, do not fumble with being a general dentist hack thinking you know what you are doing and finding out in a courtroom a few years down the road you had absolutely no clue what you were doing. Any specialty program you choose (except maybe pedo or public health) advances your education and knowledge tremendously about the art of dentistry.

 

[LonestarYankee]

If you don't mind the time, there are a few combined perio/prosth programs. If you don't want to do that, get a prosth or perio certificate and then enroll in Tarnow's NYU implant program. Regardless of what you choose to do, do not fumble with being a general dentist hack thinking you know what you are doing and finding out in a courtroom a few years down the road you had absolutely no clue what you were doing. Any specialty program you choose (except maybe pedo or public health) advances your education and knowledge tremendously about the art of dentistry.

yeah, we pediatric dentists don't know anything... i wish i knew more about reconstructing meth mouth or attempting to save a failing implant in a diabetic or chain smoker-- that's where the "real" job satisfaction lies...

 

[baddog]

Try the perio/Pros residency at UT San Antonio Health Science Center. It is a five year program but when you get out--you can do it all! From implants to all the fancy Pros you want, grafting, sinus augmentation, evrything. A fantastic program!

 

[armorshell]

You're right, what do I know ...

As an aside, I'm sure that prosthodontists take home major $$$, which is why I pointed out this study's lame conclusion. I am not sure how they reached it, but it did not make much sense to me.

The ACP brochure I saw after the post-grad night said that the average gross salary for a private practice prosthodontist is 400-500,000/year.

 

[lugrest]

Is it worthwhile to take on big cases as a prosthodontist? In other words, all the time spent treatment planning the case vs. risk of unsuccessful outcome?

 

[Dr. Dai Phan]

Is it worthwhile to take on big cases as a prosthodontist? In other words, all the time spent treatment planning the case vs. risk of unsuccessful outcome?

If you are trained well and apply what you have learned in your residency, you should not have an unsuccessful outcome. DP