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I've been a clinical massage therapist for the past nine years. As you can imagine, I'm especially interested in the magic and mysteries of OMM. I'd considered studying chiropractic, but I believe that osteopathy will open more doors for me, especially as I may move to Toronto someday (I have family there). Can anyone recommend a DO school that's renowned for its OMM program?

I was considering ATSU, but I was repelled when I saw what appear to be one-height-fits-all OMM tables on their web site. :scared: Only in a massage school in Moscow have I seen a school using equipment that's so dated. Or am I way off base here? Do all DOs deliberately work with tables that are all the same fixed height?
 
Xoynx said:
I've been a clinical massage therapist for the past nine years. As you can imagine, I'm especially interested in the magic and mysteries of OMM. I'd considered studying chiropractic, but I believe that osteopathy will open more doors for me, especially as I may move to Toronto someday (I have family there). Can anyone recommend a DO school that's renowned for its OMM program?

I was considering ATSU, but I was repelled when I saw what appear to be one-height-fits-all OMM tables on their web site. :scared: Only in a massage school in Moscow have I seen a school using equipment that's so dated. Or am I way off base here? Do all DOs deliberately work with tables that are all the same fixed height?

Of course I could be biased... 😀 but the Touro MI OMM lab just went through a $200,000+ makeover this summer...I haven't seen it yet but I heard what was going to be done and it sounds very impressive. (and previously the old tables were multiple heights...I noticed because I am short 🙂 )
 
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DRofO said:
Of course I could be biased... 😀 but the Touro MI OMM lab just went through a $200,000+ makeover this summer...I haven't seen it yet but I heard what was going to be done and it sounds very impressive.
Don't take this the wrong way..but I think the schools that do a great job w/ OMM do so b/c of great (and numerous) OMM/OPP faculty and integration of OMM into the rest of the medical curriculum (ie not much to do w/ the facilities)....that being said...I have heard that KCOM is very heavy on the OMM. Nevertheless, that is great to hear that TUCOM is investing so much in their OMM department.
 
Taus said:
Don't take this the wrong way..but I think the schools that do a great job w/ OMM do so b/c of great (and numerous) OMM/OPP faculty and integration of OMM into the rest of the medical curriculum (ie not much to do w/ the facilities)....that being said...I have heard that KCOM is very heavy on the OMM.
No problem...I agree. However her question addressed the facilities, so I jumped in. 🙂
 
While our current OMM lab is quite dated, there are many different height tables present in the lab. But hopefully, by the end of next year, future applicants will not have to worry about this since our new OMM lab will be completed.

Go to kcom.edu and click on the Connell Center webcam. Bottom right.

And yes KCOM is very OMM heavy. We have it incorporated into alot of our first year classes and spend an avg of 6-8 hours of OMM per week during the first year. We also have the oppurtunity to shadow faculty in their clinics a few floors up or in the hospital.

Hope this helps.
 
If you are talking about staff, I would put Touro Nevada's OMM department up against any, our facilities are also very good. We actually just got all brand new fully adjustable tables. But KCOM (being the founder) will always be considered the top because of how much focus they put upon it. We too spend several hours a week in the lab, but I don't think our other classes are oriented towards OMM as much. But the professors are amazing!
 
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DRofO said:
Of course I could be biased... 😀 but the Touro MI OMM lab just went through a $200,000+ makeover this summer...I haven't seen it yet but I heard what was going to be done and it sounds very impressive. (and previously the old tables were multiple heights...I noticed because I am short 🙂 )

I'm confused. I see info for Touro in CA and NV but not in MI.
 
Medicfletch said:
While our current OMM lab is quite dated, there are many different height tables present in the lab. But hopefully, by the end of next year, future applicants will not have to worry about this since our new OMM lab will be completed.

Go to kcom.edu and click on the Connell Center webcam. Bottom right.

And yes KCOM is very OMM heavy. We have it incorporated into alot of our first year classes and spend an avg of 6-8 hours of OMM per week during the first year. We also have the oppurtunity to shadow faculty in their clinics a few floors up or in the hospital.

Hope this helps.

Wow--thanks for the tip. KCOM is once again back in the running for me.
 
Xoynx said:
I've been a clinical massage therapist for the past nine years. As you can imagine, I'm especially interested in the magic and mysteries of OMM. I'd considered studying chiropractic, but I believe that osteopathy will open more doors for me, especially as I may move to Toronto someday (I have family there). Can anyone recommend a DO school that's renowned for its OMM program?

I was considering ATSU, but I was repelled when I saw what appear to be one-height-fits-all OMM tables on their web site. :scared: Only in a massage school in Moscow have I seen a school using equipment that's so dated. Or am I way off base here? Do all DOs deliberately work with tables that are all the same fixed height?

As far as facilities, Des Moines University is really nice. All tables are fully adjustable, and a lot of renovation on campus has just been completed.
 
shminger said:
As far as facilities, Des Moines University is really nice. All tables are fully adjustable, and a lot of renovation on campus has just been completed.
Personally I think that the OMM doctors at WVSOM (West Virginia School of Osteopathic Medicine) are the best when it comes to teaching and understanding osteopathic manipulative skills. As to the lab, it is great! Yes, there are stable tables, but they all have steps you can use to increase your height. And there are just about an equal number of adjustable tables. Dr. Karen Steele, the associate dean of OP&P is a graduate of KCOM. I don't think you can find a better department!
 
While I believe that KCUMB has an outstanding curriculum, faculty and facilities and prepares its students to be top-notch, OMM was more of an after-thought during my pre-clinical years. However, that may have changed and some of the 1st/2nd years may be able to provide more insight.
 
DMU has a great OMM lab--brand new, along with the new student center--but our OMM guru left this year. he was a very passionate man and taught the curriculum well...unfortunately the interim chair (IMHO) lacks the charisma and ability to spark enthusiasm in OMM. and...is a gun-ho cranial buff...
 
Xoynx said:
I've been a clinical massage therapist for the past nine years. As you can imagine, I'm especially interested in the magic and mysteries of OMM. I'd considered studying chiropractic, but I believe that osteopathy will open more doors for me, especially as I may move to Toronto someday (I have family there). Can anyone recommend a DO school that's renowned for its OMM program?

I was considering ATSU, but I was repelled when I saw what appear to be one-height-fits-all OMM tables on their web site. :scared: Only in a massage school in Moscow have I seen a school using equipment that's so dated. Or am I way off base here? Do all DOs deliberately work with tables that are all the same fixed height?
To the OP, everyone is going to think their OMM department is the best. They wouldn't be good students if they didn't think that. (Said with the utmost love, because I too think I hit the jackpot when it comes to OMM). Each school has at least one world famous master in one aspect of OMM.

Oh, and about equipment, your comment reminds me of a story about an old doctor and using an antique stethoscope. When questioned by a student why he didn't use the latest in auscultation technology, the old doctor replied "the diagnosis is not made in the earpieces of a stethoscope, it is made between them."
 
Xoynx said:
I'm confused...

We are all confused... its okay.

Toura (at least 2 years ago) told me they don't accept international students (including Canadians) so unless they changed it.. there goes that option.

KCOM and DMU do.

Back to the UNECOM, they have the nicest OMM lab. Very open and lots of space. Not to mention they are more Canadian friendly.. hehehe. Maine is Canada's state. I can send you a picture.. but not till next week when I get back to TO.
 
Xoynx said:
I've been a clinical massage therapist for the past nine years. As you can imagine, I'm especially interested in the magic and mysteries of OMM. I'd considered studying chiropractic, but I believe that osteopathy will open more doors for me, especially as I may move to Toronto someday (I have family there). Can anyone recommend a DO school that's renowned for its OMM program?

I was considering ATSU, but I was repelled when I saw what appear to be one-height-fits-all OMM tables on their web site. :scared: Only in a massage school in Moscow have I seen a school using equipment that's so dated. Or am I way off base here? Do all DOs deliberately work with tables that are all the same fixed height?

The best school for OMM is ATSU-KCOM, because of time spent in class. The type of equipment used is irrelevant. You can do OMM on the floor.
 
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Xoynx said:
I've been a clinical massage therapist for the past nine years. As you can imagine, I'm especially interested in the magic and mysteries of OMM. I'd considered studying chiropractic, but I believe that osteopathy will open more doors for me, especially as I may move to Toronto someday (I have family there). Can anyone recommend a DO school that's renowned for its OMM program?

I was considering ATSU, but I was repelled when I saw what appear to be one-height-fits-all OMM tables on their web site. :scared: Only in a massage school in Moscow have I seen a school using equipment that's so dated. Or am I way off base here? Do all DOs deliberately work with tables that are all the same fixed height?

Whatever you do, DO NOT go to CCOM for their renowned OMM program. They teach us "Chicago style" for two years and then it doesn't even show up on boards. Not to mention that the OMM dept gives poorly conducted/written exams. Lectures are terrible, as well. The other departments will not incorporate OMM into the curriculum, (if that's a clue).

Basically you'll enter CCOM loving OMT and leave hating it.
 
hands down DMU (DES MOINES)

most other schools pretty much shelve omm to the side.

PCOM is a close 2nd.
 
evenflowcarter said:
hands down DMU (DES MOINES)

most other schools pretty much shelve omm to the side.

PCOM is a close 2nd.

Does DMU have more OMM than KCOM?
 
OSUdoc08 said:
Does DMU have more OMM than KCOM?

not sure about that, but

DMU has been #1 in the nation in OMM board scores for the past 3 or 4 years
 
evenflowcarter said:
not sure about that, but

DMU has been #1 in the nation in OMM board scores for the past 3 or 4 years

OMM Board Scores?

What are you talking about?
 
homeboy said:
DMU has a great OMM lab--brand new, along with the new student center--but our OMM guru left this year. he was a very passionate man and taught the curriculum well...unfortunately the interim chair (IMHO) lacks the charisma and ability to spark enthusiasm in OMM. and...is a gun-ho cranial buff...

What happened to Boesler? I can't believe he left. He was a great mentor. 🙁
 
gree0411 said:
What happened to Boesler? I can't believe he left. He was a great mentor. 🙁


He told us it was time for him to move on out east, more opportunities. I'm guessing something went down behind closed doors however
 
DiscoDO said:
Whatever you do, DO NOT go to CCOM for their renowned OMM program. They teach us "Chicago style" for two years and then it doesn't even show up on boards. Not to mention that the OMM dept gives poorly conducted/written exams. Lectures are terrible, as well. The other departments will not incorporate OMM into the curriculum, (if that's a clue).

Basically you'll enter CCOM loving OMT and leave hating it.

Bummer--I live 90 minutes from CCOM, so it was at the top of my list.
 
Xoynx said:
I've been a clinical massage therapist for the past nine years. As you can imagine, I'm especially interested in the magic and mysteries of OMM. I'd considered studying chiropractic, but I believe that osteopathy will open more doors for me, especially as I may move to Toronto someday (I have family there). Can anyone recommend a DO school that's renowned for its OMM program?

I was considering ATSU, but I was repelled when I saw what appear to be one-height-fits-all OMM tables on their web site. :scared: Only in a massage school in Moscow have I seen a school using equipment that's so dated. Or am I way off base here? Do all DOs deliberately work with tables that are all the same fixed height?
This is like asking, "what's the best DO school?". you get bombarded with opinions and not facts because it's hard to say which school has the best OMM dept.
 
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HoodyHoo said:
This is like asking, "what's the best DO school?". you get bombarded with opinions and not facts because it's hard to say which school has the best OMM dept.

Asking "what's the best DO school" is too broad of a question. I have what I believe to be a pretty specific interest in a DO school. I'm not expecting any sort of facts from the survey as I can't imagine how to qualify such responses. But the more I hear that school A is great at OMM and school B is lousy at it, the more confident I feel in narrowing my list of schools to apply to. I wish I had a more reliable means of finding the best OMM school in the country, but this site is all I have. U.S. News and World Report doesn't have an annual issue devoted to this topic.
 
docbill said:
We are all confused... its okay.

Toura (at least 2 years ago) told me they don't accept international students (including Canadians) so unless they changed it.. there goes that option.

KCOM and DMU do.

Back to the UNECOM, they have the nicest OMM lab. Very open and lots of space. Not to mention they are more Canadian friendly.. hehehe. Maine is Canada's state. I can send you a picture.. but not till next week when I get back to TO.

That brings me to another concern I have. Although I'm a naturalized U.S. citizen, I was born in Toronto and have family there. If I become a U.S. osteopath, what hoops would I have to jump thru to practice medicine in Canada? I understand that osteopaths trained in Canada are sort of like specialized nurses.
 
it's still the same...dmu is supposed to be really good for omm


SexPanther said:
While I believe that KCUMB has an outstanding curriculum, faculty and facilities and prepares its students to be top-notch, OMM was more of an after-thought during my pre-clinical years. However, that may have changed and some of the 1st/2nd years may be able to provide more insight.
 
evenflowcarter said:
THE OMM SCORED SECTION OF COMLEX

Anyone can score a 100% on that section by reading the practice tests in Savarese, regardless of school. It's not that difficult.
 
OSUdoc08 said:
Anyone can score a 100% on that section by reading the practice tests in Savarese, regardless of school. It's not that difficult.

fiesty arent we osudoc
 
evenflowcarter said:
fiesty arent we osudoc

Just calling out a false statistic.
 
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