Beth Israel Interviews
Started by waterski232002
waterski232002 said:
I think 1 or 2 people on the board here have received interview invites from BIDMC (i assume you're talking about the boston program?).
EMApplicant said:
Yeah... BIDMC
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waterski232002 said:
i know johnahelix got an interview there, but I also know she/he rotated there so not sure if they're sending out regular invites yet or not....?
I also got one. Didnt rotate there, not sure what made me look good to them.
Do residents at the Harvard Hospitals actually wear short coats??? Someone told me that, but I didn't know if it was for real... I wouldn't be all that suprised since Duke makes their surgery interns wear short coats and dress like nurses....
Some stuff:
I spent a shift at the BIDMC but did not recieve an interview. The field is getting soooo much more competitive, it would seem. I don't know what they may be looking for.. perhaps higher than a 90th percentile on the USMLE??? In any case, their residents do indeed wear short coats. Fellows and attendings are awarded the long ones. The ED there is nice, virtually wireless, and boasts the latest in electronic medical records. It has about 40-50 beds, most of them consisting of private rooms. The four bed resus/trauma area is both spacious and spotless.
Best of luck,
Push
I spent a shift at the BIDMC but did not recieve an interview. The field is getting soooo much more competitive, it would seem. I don't know what they may be looking for.. perhaps higher than a 90th percentile on the USMLE??? In any case, their residents do indeed wear short coats. Fellows and attendings are awarded the long ones. The ED there is nice, virtually wireless, and boasts the latest in electronic medical records. It has about 40-50 beds, most of them consisting of private rooms. The four bed resus/trauma area is both spacious and spotless.
Best of luck,
Push
waterski232002 said:
Dress like nurses - like, wearing particolored scrubs and t-shirts and sweat shirts?
The surgery first and second years wear white pants and the short white coat - no confusing them with ANYONE else, except the ice cream man, or a person from 50 years ago who carries the net to capture crazy people.
Apollyon said:
I've never seen a nurse in my hospital wearing T-shirts or sweatshirts.... But they often sport the white pants...
pushinepi2 said:
When I was reviewing my list of invites with one of my EM advisors, he put BIDMC into the Less Competitive list. Guess things change fast??
Short coats??! 😕
same here. My advisor also says BIDMC is a good back-up program...don't know why, nor did I ask why....anyway...one things about BI is that you rarely see any kind of trauma given Brigham, another level 1 trauma is literally across the street...and I heard people said, "it's the real thing, it's the real thing!" when there is a trauma
BTW, surgery wear long coat, medicine wear short, EM don't wear them.
BTW, surgery wear long coat, medicine wear short, EM don't wear them.
hello23 said:
It most certainly is the real thing... I'd venture to say that when Boston med flight lands on a DEDICATED HELIPAD, takes a DEDICATED ELEVATOR down to a DEDICATED TRAUMA/RESUS suit and then their patient gets whisked off to DEDICATED TRAUMA STICU/OR/CT SCANNER you've stared straight into the face of the real thing. In my eight hours there, on a weekday, there were no less than five traumas. Two of them were rather critical whereas the others simply met trauma transport criteria. While its true that Brigham is a stone's throw away from the BI, Boston Med Flight and Boston EMS is pretty good about "rotating" their trauma hospital destinations. Most EM residents at BI are fairly honest about their lack of trauma experience, especially the lack of penetrating trauma at BI. I spoke with one of their third years who, though satisfied with his trauma experience, maintained that residents working at BMC see much more trauma than people at the BI. I wonder, though... how much penetrating trauma does a resident really have to see? In theory, a BI resident may argue that penetrating traumas are kind of cut and dry. The trauma resus should flow like an ATLS practice scenario, and the patient should go straight up to the OR. With plenty of attendings, a teaching attending, surgical, medical ,and emergency medical residents in the ED, there's no excuse for haphazard resuscitations! (I did mention how strikingly beautiful their resus suites are, didn't I???) In any case, this post brings up several good conversation points.
First of all, if trauma is an important aspect of a program's attraction, then it behooves you to do some research. The program at UF-Jax is second to none in the sheer volume of penetrating/blunt trauma that busts through their doors. I was both surprised and impressed by the continuous flow of ambulances and helicopters through the trauma bay. Since trauma is a part of the sprawling emergency department, the EM resident (2nd or 3rd year) is either running the airway or supervising the resuscitation themselves.
Another surprise for me was the program at U-Mass Worcester. That place is the designated trauma center for Central Mass and it receives trauma transports from the Boston area as well as the Berkshires. Fortunately, new england drivers are worse than people down here in Sunny South Florida. That bodes well for eager EM residents hoping to get some intensive trauma experience. I don't know their stats, but during my month there it was not uncommon for the trauma team to be activated four-five times in a 10 hour shift.
Best wishes to everyone holding out for those precious January interviews,
🙂
Push-(not interviewing at BIDMC anyway)-inepi2
I looked into the curriculum of UMass, and found out that they only have 15 mos of ED in 3 years of training...It seems very low to me as I have seen other 3 years program normally offer at least 18 mos of it... What do you think of UMass program anyway?
hello23 said:
I'd love to hear other opinions on the subject, but here's my own, humble, not-so-qualified opinion. I went to UMass because of their strong reputation in EMS. THe program is residency run, has multiple fellowships available, and is located about 45 minutes or so west of boston. The attendings love to teach and the residents are generally happy. Their ER sees some high acuity patients due to transfers from other hospitals in Western and Central Mass. Yes, we did indeed recieve one transfer from the venerable Beth Israel when I was there...
SOME PROS:
Without doubt, the Umass program is an EMS junkie's dream. For you former medics and EMT's out there, this program makes flight a requirement. There's ample opportunity to participate in paramedic instruction. The EMS month also involves spending off time in the emergency dept teaching students and supervising procedures. The benefits are good (42,000 plus for a PGY-1) and the area is beautiful. The pediatrics department is vibrant. The physical plant, though old, boasts a pediatric urgent care center and a pediatric emergency room. Residents, therefore, spend more of their time with truly emergent pedi patients. The faculty are exceedingly helpful, well published, and proud of their program. The UMass University hospital is multidisciplinary, and you'll work with boatloads of other struggling residents/fellows in cardiology, radiology, IM, transplant, the works... As a 4th year student, what impressed me the most was my ability to see my own patients and perform necessary procedures. Finally, the residency staff is over-the-top friendly. Carol Bloom, their residency coordinator, is legendary for her, "Welcome to UMass!" line.
SOME CONS:
-The old, outdated physical plant is scheduled to be replaced by a 70 bed ED in 2006
-Worcester cost of living is kind of high. (I thought south florida was bad!)
-Some residents don't like flying (the BK-117 is one of the bigger birds, though..)
-Snow
-The UMass system consists of three hospitals clustered in close proximity. Residents spend some of their time at these other hospitals as well as one of the UMass community ED's.
All in all, the program's website contains a fairly accurate description of the UMass experience.
Pushinep2
