Blackball Chiropractic

[Nemo]

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It is my sincere hope that each practitioner present on this board will avail every opportunity to shut down the Chiropractic profession. Never refer to a chiropractor- go with a DPT or similar professional (chiropractic radiologists are an exception).

I am just finishing as an intern in a Chiropractic school and I have never witnessed such a demonstration of unethical business practices, scientific illiteracy, pure quackery, and cultism.

I know there was another thread dedicated to this topic, but I wanted these statements to be heard from someone on the inside. I truly hope this "profession" is gone in the next couple of decades.


Best,
Nemo

 

[southerndoc]

Aww, well isn't that special? Nemo just started a flame war. 🙄

 

[Castro Viejo]

Originally posted by Nemo
go with a DPT or similar professional (chiropractic radiologists are an exception).

What the hell is a "DPT?" Isn't that one of them vaccines?

 

[Energon]

DPT: Doctor of Physical Therapy, the new update for MS PT.

 

[Castro Viejo]

So is the MSPT still offered, or is every PT who has earned an MS in PT now referred to as a DPT? When did this happen? Why did this happen?

Hmmm... I think the changing of titles and the blurring of boundaries between the different types of practitioners creates a pretty confusing world for patients. I know I'm having trouble keeping up with who's supposed to function as what.

 

[Surgdude]

It will never happen--pushing chiropractic out of existence.

These people are successful because they market themselves well. Think about it--they often go out to the waiting room and bring the pt back themselves, they lay their hands upon the patient, actively "healing" their ailments, they ALWAYS recommend return visits, as no one will ever be cured of the need for "little adjustments." They have ads all over. Finally, a lot of people are ticked off at the major medical establishment because it has become increasingly intangible to them and difficult to walk away from with as good of a feeling. Chiros know the "First, do no harm" principle--it's just that they don't necessarily do that much good, or no more than would be received from a PT. I guess that the caveat to the do no harm thing is the cervical manipulation that can cause vertebral artery dissection.

If we really wanted to put them out of business, we would learn some of their interpersonal techniques and apply them to medicine to keep the people believing in us.

 

[DC2DO]

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70262

 

[jashanley]

I'm sorry but a masters degree is not a doctorate.....
a PT with a masters should not be called doctor. If they recieved a doctorate in PT, I would then agree to it. my two cents

 

[volvulus]

A DPT is a one who has recieved a doctorate degree in physical therapy. They go to school longer than those that recieve a masters in physical therapy. So yes they do earn their title. Hope that helps.

 

[Freeeedom!]

Let me make this perfectly clear...
Licensure requirements for DPTs, MPT's, and BSPT's are NOT different. They all take the same licensure board exam. The schooling is roughly the same and the professional portion is no longer. In essence, the graduate goes through the same schooling with increased debt and not much greater prospects.
The DPT has been a long political goal of the APTA to combat DC's and to gain greater acceptance.

Remember, there are many states that do NOT require Continuing Ed for relicensure of PT's. A DPT does NOT mean you are getting a "better" PT by any means. It means you are getting a PT that simply has a different degree.
Also note, that a DPT can be attained (on a post professional basis) by the internet or "distance learning" (ie U. of St. Augustine).

And this is the truth.

 

[volvulus]

MY friend is in PT school. A DPT goes to school for three years while a MPT goes to school for two. So yes there is a difference. A DPT does research and has to do a internship. This is the truth.

 

[Freeeedom!]

Well...no.
There are some programs that are ENTRY level DPT programs (skipping the Masters) that take 3 years.
Programs that are post masters degree (regardless of degree) are 2 years or less.
St. Augustines program for PT's offers a DPT that is by "distance learning"...many many DPT programs are via night school etc for the practicing PT.
I know this because I was IN a DPT program (see St. Augustine above), prior to med school. Many are DScPT.
Internships are optional, my roomates new wife recieved her DPT and went to work right after she graduated. Every first year is considered on "probation", regardless of BS, MS, or DPT. It ain't no internship as they are competely independent...this is NOT a highly regulated field, it is nothing at ALL like medicine.

ALL PT's TAKE THE SAME LICENSURE. Like pharmacists, there are RPh's and PharmD's...it is all marketing and politics...

Sorry to disagree, but I was in the business for a while. And I am not taking cheap shots, rather pointing out the truth...and what many PT's (prior to the growth of DPT's) feel about the field that is now slapping them in the face.
Of course this does not effect me as I am a med school grad...but I still have close friends who voice their opinions frequently.

 

[Castro Viejo]

I found the following FAQ on the American Physical Therapy Association's website. Either I'm extremely tired, or the APTA is doing a relatively poor job explaining the vast array of DPT offerings through this FAQ.

http://www.apta.org/Education/dpt/dpt_faq

Enjoy deciphering it.