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You don't need to do research on this or try to understand it because I have already done it for you:

(1) 401 k: contribute at least to the match which is usually 5%. If you put in a dollar, your company will give you a dollar = $2. Don't ever touch this money.

- Why? Tax saving and retirement money

- How should I distribute my 401 k?
For a new grad: 35% large size companies, 25% small size companies, 20% mid size companies, 20% international companies.

Look for Vanguard funds (low fee) and look for the word "index" in the fund name.

(2) Tackle your student loans within the first 5 years. Cut down on unnecessary cost. Don't be foolish and buy a new car. Live with friends or family when possible.

(3) Try to work OT if possible especially when you are being paid 1.5x. Working on holidays also helps. Get a per diem job at a non retail pharmacy if you are working in retail. Nobody wants to do retail for 30 years. You need a Plan B.

(4) Take a small vacation every 6 months. Go with a large group of friends or family. Don't overspend.

(5) Spend your money wisely. If it helps you grow or advance your career, then it may be worth it. Staying at a 4 star hotel? Not worth it.

(6) If you have some money left over:

- First, max out your health saving account (HSA), not the same as flexible spending account. This is your health care money. It gets rolled over if you don't use it. Tax saving.
- Second, max out your 401 k (up to 18 k this year). Again, tax saving and retirement money.
- Third, put money in ROTH IRA (do a back door conversion)

(7) Start saving for a house. If you put 20% down, you don't have to pay for PMI (extra cost added to money borrowed from the bank).

(8) Don't spend ridiculous money on your friends or family. You are just a pharmacist, not Rockefeller Jr.

(9) Date someone who is financially stable and has a good career. It helps tremendously. A bad divorce is a destroyer of wealth. Don't forget that.


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^ Don't let differences like this get in the way. People will always have different opinion because no one can predict the future.

The point is - get in the game and invest early. The worst thing you can do right now is to do nothing and waste your time trying to understand the different investment strategy.
 
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Patience, young grasshopper. Let valuations come to you. No need to start buying at the all time highs.

http://www.hussmanfunds.com/wmc/wmc160711.htm

http://www.hussmanfunds.com/wmc/wmc160104.htm

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If you can predict the future, then what are you doing here? Shouldn't you be on an island somewhere enjoying life?

You and other short sellers got burned this year (the last 7 years to be exact). One day you will be right and we will go into a deep recession but until then, I hope you enjoy losing your money.


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Solid financial advice from BMB, as usual.

I would add
(10). Don't be afraid to invest in yourself; spending money to advance your career, if done right, can have a tremendous ROI. Paying for my second graduate degree was a pain in the arse, but I wouldn't have my current position without it.

(11). Garbage in, garbage out...spend a little extra for higher quality food at the grocery store. Get the gym membership. Hire a personal trainer if you need motivation to lose the spare tire. Committing to a healthy lifestyle can be costly, but you shouldn't put a price on your health.
 
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Solid financial advice from BMB, as usual.

I would add
(10). Don't be afraid to invest in yourself; spending money to advance your career, if done right, can have a tremendous ROI. Paying for my second graduate degree was a pain in the arse, but I wouldn't have my current position without it.

(11). Garbage in, garbage out...spend a little extra for higher quality food at the grocery store. Get the gym membership. Hire a personal trainer if you need motivation to lose the spare tire. Committing to a healthy lifestyle can be costly, but you shouldn't put a price on your health.

I completely agree, invest in your career and your health. Plus, I would find it hard to educate my patients on healthy dietary and exercise practices if I were not in good physical shape.
 
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Ive done everything except #6. I literally cannot wait until I can take my student loan and daycare money and invest in Roth, HSA and Coverdale for my spawns
 
(5a) Dont spend money on a car, and sure as heck not a new one. A car is a depreciating asset which means it is worth less tomorrow than it is today. It is worth a thousand dollars less for driving it off the dealer's lot. Why would you spend 30 or even 50k on a car today knowing it will be worth zero later?

Instead get a cheap reliable fuel efficient vehicle, preferably used, and perform regular maintenance to keep it running for a long time. If you invested your savings from being conservative, there is a good chance you could buy your luxury car later.... in cash.
 
How does a HSA work? You contribute pre-tax dollars and can pay for Dr. copay/drug copays with the pretax money?

Can you ever withdraw the money? Do you have to pay taxes when you withdraw cash? When can you withdraw it? How much can you typically contribute a year?

In other words, even if I don't want it for health spending is this an effective way to increase your pre-tax contributions after your 401k is maxed?

What's the difference between HSA and FSA? Are these offered through your insurance company or something entirely separate through your employer like a 401k?
 
How does a HSA work? You contribute pre-tax dollars and can pay for Dr. copay/drug copays with the pretax money?

Can you ever withdraw the money? Do you have to pay taxes when you withdraw cash? When can you withdraw it? How much can you typically contribute a year?

In other words, even if I don't want it for health spending is this an effective way to increase your pre-tax contributions after your 401k is maxed?

What's the difference between HSA and FSA? Are these offered through your insurance company or something entirely separate through your employer like a 401k?

It's called google man. After you reach a certain age I can't remember the age you can treat it like an IRA, meaning you can withdraw for whatever reason and pay the normal income tax
 
How does a HSA work? You contribute pre-tax dollars and can pay for Dr. copay/drug copays with the pretax money?

Can you ever withdraw the money? Do you have to pay taxes when you withdraw cash? When can you withdraw it? How much can you typically contribute a year?

In other words, even if I don't want it for health spending is this an effective way to increase your pre-tax contributions after your 401k is maxed?

What's the difference between HSA and FSA? Are these offered through your insurance company or something entirely separate through your employer like a 401k?
Not everyone can get an HSA. You have to have a qualifying high-deductible plan in order to contribute. If you're not anticipating much healthcare spending (young, healthy, no kids, etc) it's probably the best way to go, since those plans are often the lowest premiums. If you need to visit doctors or specialists often for chronic conditions, you're probably better off paying the higher premium and getting a regular non-high deductible plan, and not qualifying for the HSA.

Otherwise, yeah, it is kind of like an IRA. You can put the money there in addition to any 401k or IRA. Withdrawals have to be medical expenses like office visits, procedures, rx. After a certain age, I believe you can withdraw for any purpose, but by the time you reach that age I would assume most people have higher medical expenses and could just use the funds for that purpose anyway.

The FSA is just one of those cards anybody can get to pay their copays, and it expires at the end of the year. It's not terrible, because you're still doing the pre-tax thing, but you have to be careful how much you contribute so that it doesn't go to waste. Sometimes employers will pre-load you with a certain amount in an FSA each year also.
 
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Better check what's in your mutual funds. How are these fund managers getting yield if 13 trillion of sovereign debt now has negative
yields?

http://dimartinobooth.com/bond-market-beware-junkyard-dogs/

" “At this point, we have little doubt that our original forecast of a 4% ex-commodity HY default rate will be met by late 2016/early 2017. Moreover, we think there are now enough reasons to believe that defaults could rise to 5%, ex-commodities, sometime over the next year or so. Coupled with our 20% commodity HY default rate forecast, we are looking at 7.25% aggregate default rate sometime around mid-2017.”

In the event you’ve fallen off Planet Earth in recent weeks, the global corporate default count, as in companies reneging on their promises to make good on those coupon payments, is at the highest level since 2009. And if your memory’s eye has erased 2009 to prevent permanent scarring, the economy was in a full meltdown state back then.

Let’s get this straight. Defaults are going through the roof and investors are flocking to the sector in record numbers? And how.

Moody’s Tiina Siilaberg keeps an eagle’s eye on the concessions investors give to issuers in the form of protections theydon’t demand. They’re called ‘covenants,’ which Investopedia defines as, “designed to protect the interests of both parties. Restrictive covenants forbid the issuer from undertaking certain activities; positive covenants require the issuer to meet specific requirements.”

By Siilaberg’s latest tally, covenant protections are at their weakest level in recorded history. To translate, investors’ collective interests are as vulnerable as they’ve ever been. Though the leveraged loan market remains open for business, Siilaberg is apprehensive about what’s just over the horizon given stretched valuations.

“Issuance in the high yield bond market is still relatively weak compared to historic levels,” Siilaberg said. “I worry, though, because refinancing risk for many lower-rated issuers is close to an all-time high.”

The culprit? That would be a delusional reliance on what Melentyev refers to as, “the new narrative,” and “its apparent reliance on (a) strong monetary response.” Unconventional monetary policy is delivering, “little tangible benefit.”

Overreaching central bankers are in fact doing more harm than good at this juncture. Though small investors may not be wise to the damage being wrought, veterans of financial market warfare are weary to the point of exhaustion.

The endless waiting for Godot has apparently worn their resolve down to near nothing…with good reason. For all of central bankers’ Herculean efforts, expectations that U.S. job losses will accelerate are at a two-year high while households’ prospects for the economy over the next year have fallen to a two-year low.

Pride will surely precede the fall of the orthodoxy of today’s accepted monetary policy framework. But at what cost?

“Everyone in the world needs yield and nothing else matters,” Melentyev laments. “This has never ended in any sort of a problem before, so we can all go back to sleep.” And what happens when we’re abruptly shaken from our slumber?

Recognizing the painfully obvious, Voya’s Cavanaugh observed, “This isn’t a really normal environment.” "

http://www.salientpartners.com/epsilon-theory/when-narratives-go-bad/

"First, little of the increased corporate or government borrowing trickled down into jobs or wage income growth. We’ve all seen the charts. Real wage growth is nonexistent in the Western world. Second, to make it feasible for corporations and governments to borrow these trillions of dollars in the first place, every bit of Central Bank balance sheet expansion (buying bonds) and balance sheet “twist” (buying longer duration bonds) and expansion of allowable securities for purchase (buying more kinds of bonds) and imposition of negative rates (charging you interest if youdon’t buy longish-term bonds) was designed to – you guessed it – buy more bonds and thus drive up bond prices and drive down interest rates, particularly longish-term bond prices and longish-term interest rates. That’s great if you’re an investor looking for a percentage return on your bond portfolio. That’s terrible, however, if you’re an investor looking for an income from your bond portfolio. Over the past seven years, Central Banks have rewarded the return-seeking bond buyer many times over, and they’ve done nothing but punish the income-seeking bond buyer.

Put these two income squelchers together – zero wage income growth because corporations aren’t investing for growth and less-than-zero investment incomegrowth because Central Banks have crushed rates – and you have a vast swath of the voting public in every developed nation on Earth that (rightfully!) feels aggrieved and left behind by the gleaming economic recovery that the status quo Narrative Missionaries tout at every turn. Notably, the failure of wage income growth skews younger and Democrat/left. The failure of investment income growth skews older and Republican/right. The status quo Narratives could survive (and have many times) an assault from one wing of the electorate or the other. But from both simultaneously? It’s going to be a close call.

But here’s the even larger problem lurking in the not-so distant future, and it’s found in the behavioral WHY of return-seeking bond buyers versus income-seeking bond buyers. These are two entirely different investor populations from a behavioral perspective, with different languages and different investment genotypes. When I hear an investor or financial advisor ask, “Why in the world would I buy a Swiss bond with a -0.5% interest rate?” I know that I’m talking to an income-seeking bond buyer. The return-seeking bond buyer, on the other hand, says “Hey, if you’re right about the world, those Swiss bonds currently yielding -0.5% are going to -1.0%, which means that the price is going up. Where can I buy one of those?”

The only rational owner of a negative rate bond is a pure return seeker; there arezero income seekers holding negative rate bonds. Why is this a problem? Because income seekers will continue to own bonds even if the price goes down (for a while, anyway; at the very least, they are sticky owners). Return seekers, on the other hand, are not sticky owners at all. They will only own a bond if they think that the price is going up – meaning in this case that yields will continue to become even more negative, i.e., that there’s a greater fool (probably in the form of a Central Bank) willing to pay higher and higher prices for these income-destroying bonds – and they will sell in a heartbeat if they think this dynamic is changing.

There is, to cop a phrase from the People’s Bank of China, a massive “one-way bet” on negative rate sovereign debt today. The momentum trade has crystallized to perfection in negative rate bonds, which has grown to become a $10+ trillion (yes, that’s trillion with a T) asset class. I think it’s the most crowded trade in the world from a behavioral or investment DNA perspective, and the moment you get even a whiff of the ECB or BOJ backing down from or reaching its limit of greater foolishness, you are going to get a rush to the exit on ALL sovereign bonds that will shake global capital markets to their core. It’ll be good times till then, as it always is, and I am seeing zero signs of Central Bankers backing down from their greater foolishness. But we have once again set up the global financial system as an inverted pyramid, with a $10 trillion asset class poised on a single, solitary piece of Common Knowledge —– what everyone knows that everyone knows. In 2008, the $10 trillion asset class of residential mortgage backed securities (RMBS) was entirely based on the Common Knowledge that it was impossible to have a nationwide decline in U.S. home prices. When that Narrative failed, the entire inverted pyramid came crashing down. In 2016, the $10 trillion asset class of negative rate sovereign bonds is entirely based on the Common Knowledge that there is no limit to the greater foolishness of Central Banks. If this Narrative fails, the entire inverted pyramid will come crashing down again. Hence my punchline: monitoring this and related status quo protecting Narratives (like the concerted effort to paint Brexit as a one-off blunder, just likeBear Stearns was painted in 2008) is the only thing that really matters for our investment reality. "
 
Can someone explain the backdoor Roth conversion? I've always had a Roth IRA (made less than ~120k) but this is the first year that I'm ineligible due to marriage (~180k combined limit).
 
You don't need to do research on this or try to understand it because I have already done it for you:

(1) 401 k: contribute at least to the match which is usually 5%. If you put in a dollar, your company will give you a dollar = $2. Don't ever touch this money.

- Why? Tax saving and retirement money

- How should I distribute my 401 k?
For a new grad: 35% large size companies, 25% small size companies, 20% mid size companies, 20% international companies.

Look for Vanguard funds (low fee) and look for the word "index" in the fund name.

(2) Tackle your student loans within the first 5 years. Cut down on unnecessary cost. Don't be foolish and buy a new car. Live with friends or family when possible.

(3) Try to work OT if possible especially when you are being paid 1.5x. Working on holidays also helps. Get a per diem job at a non retail pharmacy if you are working in retail. Nobody wants to do retail for 30 years. You need a Plan B.

(4) Take a small vacation every 6 months. Go with a large group of friends or family. Don't overspend.

(5) Spend your money wisely. If it helps you grow or advance your career, then it may be worth it. Staying at a 4 star hotel? Not worth it.

(6) If you have some money left over:

- First, max out your health saving account (HSA), not the same as flexible spending account. This is your health care money. It gets rolled over if you don't use it. Tax saving.
- Second, max out your 401 k (up to 18 k this year). Again, tax saving and retirement money.
- Third, put money in ROTH IRA (do a back door conversion)

(7) Start saving for a house. If you put 20% down, you don't have to pay for PMI (extra cost added to money borrowed from the bank).

(8) Don't spend ridiculous money on your friends or family. You are just a pharmacist, not Rockefeller Jr.

(9) Date someone who is financially stable and has a good career. It helps tremendously. A bad divorce is a destroyer of wealth. Don't forget that.


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And please do take care of yourself. Buy good food that is real food. Spend at least an hour three times a week trying to make some muscle. Try not to become a customer of your own stuff (either the opiates or the post-MI treatment stuff). You can save a LOT of money not getting yourself avoidable lifestyle diseases (diabetes and depression in particular) or treating them as early as suspected. Get medical help early, don't put it off like you see our patients do.

(And I know that there is a level of unpredictability/unavoidability for diabetes and depression, but there are ways to make that possibility much lower and treating it earlier before those diseases cause the long term damage both are well-feared for.)
 
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(10) don't ever let jealous or personal feeling get in the way of making money. Be open minded. Ask your successful friends how they "made it" and learn from them.


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Man I really wish I bought at all time highs back in 2016. These prices are laughable now:
VTI - 111
AAPL - 28
MSFT - 57
AMZN - 837
GOOGL - 804
FB - 128
TSLA - 40
NVDA - 17
AMD - 6
DIS - 92
WMT - 72
TGT - 68
COST - 152
PYPL - 41
V - 82
JPM - 66
BAC - 15
MCD - 115
CMG - 423
BTC - 609
ETH - 13
 
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His departure is one of the reasons why I don't contribute anymore.
 
If I may ask, why are they no more?
Look at their post history. So many just nasty personal insults. He did sometimes give good advice, especially financial advice, but the ratio of good posts to nasty posts was just crazy. I don’t know why people act like losing him was some kind of crazy loss. I bet you won’t find a single positive contribution in his last hundred posts.

I do miss him sometimes though if I am being honest. Same for SHC. They broke the rules and were given so many chances and were still banned but at least they were usually entertaining.
 
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Man I really wish I bought at all time highs back in 2016. These prices are laughable now:
VTI - 111
AAPL - 28
MSFT - 57
AMZN - 837
GOOGL - 804
FB - 128
TSLA - 40
NVDA - 17
AMD - 6
DIS - 92
WMT - 72
TGT - 68
COST - 152
PYPL - 41
V - 82
JPM - 66
BAC - 15
MCD - 115
CMG - 423
BTC - 609
ETH - 13
If you had bought at these levels would you have been able to hold for all these years?
 
If I may ask, why are they no more?

It's funny cause we have a discord group chat where banned members from here are welcome... And he went on a tirade and got banned there too. Started swearing and insulting people out of nowhere.

If you had bought at these levels would you have been able to hold for all these years?

Nah you know me. My latest dust hands moment is selling ADA (Cardano) a few weeks ago at 1.30 right before it surged. Thought I did pretty good with 21% profit LoL. It looks like it'll be 3.0 soon 😭
 
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I had good days and bad days with BM - but there was just one thing that made me just absolutely dismiss a lot of what he said:

Anyone remember when he would rant about people not being able to buy a house with 100k+ student loans? That somehow it would lock you out if you had over 100k…. Then the “tax bomb” stuff with student loans also…. I just really questioned if his comments were grounded in reality (many of them were not). I remember when I lost my job to company closure in 2019 he called me out when i had to sell my house for relocation and told me I should bot have sold and I was locked out due to my loans. This could not be further from the truth and I had several loan options when I bought my new home. Only bummer was buying at a much higher market - which what the heck can you do about this….

Otherwise I did enjoy his discussions about stock pics as this has been a hobby of mine for about a decade - I could literally talk stocks/charts/trends all day if someone else had the same interest as me. But he has some sort of aire of arrogance in his discussions.. oh well - I should not speak poorly of the dead as this is bad luck…
 
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I had good days and bad days with BM - but there was just one thing that made me just absolutely dismiss a lot of what he said:

Anyone remember when he would rant about people not being able to buy a house with 100k+ student loans? That somehow it would lock you out if you had over 100k…. Then the “tax bomb” stuff with student loans also…. I just really questioned if his comments were grounded in reality (many of them were not). I remember when I lost my job to company closure in 2019 he called me out when i had to sell my house for relocation and told me I should bot have sold and I was locked out due to my loans. This could not be further from the truth and I had several loan options when I bought my new home. Only bummer was buying at a much higher market - which what the heck can you do about this….

Otherwise I did enjoy his discussions about stock pics as this has been a hobby of mine for about a decade - I could literally talk stocks/charts/trends all day if someone else had the same interest as me. But he has some sort of aire of arrogance in his discussions.. oh well - I should not speak poorly of the dead as this is bad luck…

Maybe his info was outdated. It was probably true shortly after the 2008 housing crash. But yeah that would mean anyone with an advanced degree would be locked out. Doctors etc.
 
Carol, in fact, wasn't Alpha

Definitely not in the comics, either Alpha or alpha
 
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It's funny cause we have a discord group chat where banned members from here are welcome... And he went on a tirade and got banned there too. Started swearing and insulting people out of nowhere.

Yeah guy was clearly full of himself and I can see how he rubbed people the wrong way. But he was a character and we need those to keep this forum alive. Otherwise, it’s dead in here and no new lively discussion taking place.

I like Owl.. He is a good guy with great temperament. But one thing I don’t understand is how some sub forums such as emergency and anesthesia can get away with discussing controversial topics such as politics while the same threads wouldn’t go over two pages before getting locked in here. Why are there separate standards for two sub forums on the same website? I know there is also sub forum for sociopolitical issues but members on here only want to stay within pharmacy forum and not venture outside.
 
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Yeah guy was clearly full of himself and I can see how he rubbed people the wrong way. But he was a character and we need those to keep this forum alive. Otherwise, it’s dead in here and no new lively discussion taking place.

I like Owl.. He is a good guy with great temperament. But one thing I don’t understand is how some sub forums such as emergency and anesthesia can get away with discussing controversial topics such as politics while the same threads wouldn’t go over two pages before getting locked in here. Why are there separate standards for two sub forums on the same website? I know there is also sub forum for sociopolitical issues but members on here only want to stay within pharmacy forum and not venture outside.

I agree and I think open discourse is so important. I just try to keep a lot of the political stuff to myself as it just winds people up so much. I honestly try my best to accept all walks of life - I am a conservative myself and I appreciate even the most liberal of liberal (I will shop their stores, I will smile and say thank you, have conversation, etc).

But boy - when you start talking about trigger words like “trump, Biden, antifa, proud boys, etc” you can just naturally expect a spiral out of control. It is very unfortunate.

I started voting with Bush and I supported him, I supported Obama, I supported trump, and I support Biden now.
 
Yeah guy was clearly full of himself and I can see how he rubbed people the wrong way. But he was a character and we need those to keep this forum alive. Otherwise, it’s dead in here and no new lively discussion taking place.

I like Owl.. He is a good guy with great temperament. But one thing I don’t understand is how some sub forums such as emergency and anesthesia can get away with discussing controversial topics such as politics while the same threads wouldn’t go over two pages before getting locked in here. Why are there separate standards for two sub forums on the same website? I know there is also sub forum for sociopolitical issues but members on here only want to stay within pharmacy forum and not venture outside.

I've recently discovered threads outside of the pharmacy forums. The anesthesia group has a really good thread for crypto.
 
I've recently discovered threads outside of the pharmacy forums. The anesthesia group has a really good thread for crypto.

Yeah I spend little time on here.. Nothing really new/ interesting going on these days.
 
But one thing I don’t understand is how some sub forums such as emergency and anesthesia can get away with discussing controversial topics such as politics while the same threads wouldn’t go over two pages before getting locked in here. Why are there separate standards for two sub forums on the same website?
I appreciate your vote of confidence. Your criticism is fair. The truth is in the past we have tried to be totally consistent across SDN but it’s pretty difficult when not every forum even has a moderator and even the forums that do have moderators not everyone will have the same style. We do try to be consistent but it’s never going to be totally consistent.

Truthfully a lot of our moderation comes from what gets reported so in a very real sense it’s the members who decide what is and is not acceptable, although we will act on stuff even when it’s not reported if it is a TOS violation.
 
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If you owe more than $84,893 on federal loans, it is financially irresponsible to pay them off early. The PAYE and REPAYE programs allow you to have a low monthly payment for 20-25 years and the remainder is forgiven. The total amount you have to pay back is also much less and it is over the course of 2 decades.
 
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If you owe more than $84,893 on federal loans, it is financially irresponsible to pay them off early. The PAYE and REPAYE programs allow you to have a low monthly payment for 20-25 years and the remainder is forgiven. The total amount you have to pay back is also much less and it is over the course of 2 decades.

I'd argue it's financially irresponsible not to pay your loans.
 
I'd argue it's financially irresponsible not to pay your loans.

Yea - I agree. I think it is important to pay your loans according to the terms of the loan. If the terms of the loan allow for certain circumstance which benefit you directly, I believe this is also responsible
 
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