bOOKS for internship

[Poety]

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Hey all, I'm getting the books sazi recommends.

couple of questions:

1. should I order the books now and wait for the bigger ones since my program will pay for 300.00 worth after july 1st or get all teh smaller ones with that 300 bucks. (the small ones, like 10 of them come up to 300 but I could get the nice 2 volume sadock for that 300 if you think I'll need it)

also:

which dsm do I get? theres like 30 of them - and I can't find the spiral bound one Sazi was talking about? 😕 Solid? OPD? which ones are you guys using?

 

[Doc Samson]

Hey all, I'm getting the books sazi recommends.

couple of questions:

1. should I order the books now and wait for the bigger ones since my program will pay for 300.00 worth after july 1st or get all teh smaller ones with that 300 bucks. (the small ones, like 10 of them come up to 300 but I could get the nice 2 volume sadock for that 300 if you think I'll need it)

also:

which dsm do I get? theres like 30 of them - and I can't find the spiral bound one Sazi was talking about? 😕 Solid? OPD? which ones are you guys using?

I'd vote against the Kaplan and Sadock... too cumbersome for PGY-1, the lsmaller books will be much higher yield. I've been using the little pocket sized DSM throughout residency... no complaints.

 

[Poety]

I'd vote against the Kaplan and Sadock... too cumbersome for PGY-1, the lsmaller books will be much higher yield. I've been using the little pocket sized DSM throughout residency... no complaints.

which one? I can't find a pocket sized dsm - can you give me the isbn?

I'll just wait and get all my books for the 300 bucks then 🙂 tx!

 

[OldPsychDoc]

which one? I can't find a pocket sized dsm - can you give me the isbn?

I'll just wait and get all my books for the 300 bucks then 🙂 tx!

0-89042-027-0
(spiral bound)

 

[Doc Samson]

0-89042-027-0
(spiral bound)

0-89042-026-2 for the non-spiral bound

And to Sazi's list, I'd add:

Massachusetts General Hospital Handbook of General Hospital Psychiatry by Theodore A. Stern, Gregory Fricchione, Ned H. Cassem, Michael S. Jellinek, Jerrold F. Rosenbaum.

Even though you're not going to do CL as an intern, your medicine attendings will likely ask your opinion on issues of psychosomatic medicine. It also has some great pearls on "being a psychiatrist" in a general hospital setting. Plus, it's never too early to start learning about CL (but then again, I'm a little biased on that).

 

[Poety]

0-89042-026-2 for the non-spiral bound

And to Sazi's list, I'd add:

Massachusetts General Hospital Handbook of General Hospital Psychiatry by Theodore A. Stern, Gregory Fricchione, Ned H. Cassem, Michael S. Jellinek, Jerrold F. Rosenbaum.

Even though you're not going to do CL as an intern, your medicine attendings will likely ask your opinion on issues of psychosomatic medicine. It also has some great pearls on "being a psychiatrist" in a general hospital setting. Plus, it's never too early to start learning about CL (but then again, I'm a little biased on that).

I love c/l, Im seriously thinking about that as a career choice 🙂

 

[Doc Samson]

I love c/l, Im seriously thinking about that as a career choice 🙂

Always happy to have another soldier in the trenches. 🙂

 

[Anasazi23]

Hey all, I'm getting the books sazi recommends.

couple of questions:

1. should I order the books now and wait for the bigger ones since my program will pay for 300.00 worth after july 1st or get all teh smaller ones with that 300 bucks. (the small ones, like 10 of them come up to 300 but I could get the nice 2 volume sadock for that 300 if you think I'll need it)

also:

which dsm do I get? theres like 30 of them - and I can't find the spiral bound one Sazi was talking about? 😕 Solid? OPD? which ones are you guys using?

Hi Poety,

You'll need the DSM IV-TR. That's the most recent version. You should have the larger version, which gives important historical references and differential discussion, while the pocket version (spiral bound) is well...to carry in your pocket. You'll need it while on call so that you don't embarrass yourself in rounds the following morning. You will need to justify your diagnoses correctly and competently.

You will need a comprehensive psychiatry textbook. That's just the way it is. If you were in IM, you'd have a Harrisons, if you were in surgery, you'd have a Schwartz (sp?). In psychiatry, you need to have K&S at some point. You should be reading all...the...time. Might as well start there. If you want, spring for it when you get your book stipend. Doc Samson is right in that you'll get by with other high yield books in the meantime. You'll likely receive required reading articles and pages in your first weeks. Many of these will be provided, however. You'll just want a place to go to when you see a disease or diagnosis in the hospital, and you want to know what you should start to know about it. They do make a "Synopsis" version of K&S. Predictably, it's less comprehensive, but is also better than nothing.

For fun, (I encourage all psychs to do this that haven't already), learn the history of the DSM from the first version printed in 1952, to the current...learn why the TR is the TR. Why wasn't the DSM-IV good enough? You'll still hear terms (I use them and love them) from the original DSM. They had a way of giving a feel to a condition that modern terms fail to capture in some ways. Don't try finding one online. You'll pay around $1000 - $2500 for one. I'll lend you a copy of mine if you like 😉 I have good luck in antique bookstores that tend to ....underprice items.

 

[LM02]

Hi guys,

I'm definitely jumping in to this discussion late (with no idea of what else Sazi has recommended), but I thought I'd drop this reco for another inexpensive, pocket-sized reference.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/09...f=pd_bbs_1/102-0186034-4226560?_encoding=UTF8

I used it in grad school when I did emergency evals for the local community hospital. A lot of it is relatively straightforward, but I found it particularly helpful to guide challenging differential diagnoses on the fly.

 

[Psyclops]

Sazi, you aren't kidding about old copies of the DSM, I've been looking but so far they all break the bank.

 

[PsychEval]

Another one that I like is the Interview Guide for Evaluating DSM-IV Psychiatric Disorders and the Mental Status Examination. Author – Mark Zimmerman, M.D., Psych Products Press. It's a pocket size, so it fits easily in a lab coat. It only cost about 10 or 11 bucks.

Edit, just realized LMO2 posted this one. Sorry.

 

[i61164]

Bump.