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Frame 3 Official Vote Tally

meats (1)- lawpy (c)
alley (2) - violet (c), blue (c)

Ineligible to vote: AM

3/16

Missing: Etc etc

Voting ends Monday 1/24 at 10PM ET

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oh hai. Hoping you get to my questions soon.




Vote YK

Yeet Vis

According to my notes they didn't place a vote at all until 9:53 PM last night for Ivy (please correct me if I'm wrong). They've been on my sus list for a while now but since they withheld their vote till last minute and used the reasoning of only wanting to break the tie/save their noob, they get my vote.

@Viscernable who would you have wanted to vote for yesterday if you didn't need to break a tie/save your noob?

Frame 3 Official Vote Tally

meats (1)- lawpy (c)
alley (2) - violet (c), blue (c)
YK (1) - Mel
Vis (1) - puppy

Ineligible to vote: AM

5/16

Missing: Etc etc

Voting ends Monday 1/24 at 10PM ET

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Hmmmmm
what if I

Yeet Vis

I've been questioning her most of the game (see my early post about her sounding similar to casino) but I don't think I've always found her tricky to read.

I'd be interested to see what happens with a vote here as well (and I will reevaluate once I catch up)

Yeet Vis

Frame 3 Official Vote Tally

meats (1)- lawpy (c)
alley (2) - violet (c), blue (c)
YK (1) - Mel
Vis (3) - puppsy, april, sporty

Ineligible to vote: AM

7/16

Missing: Etc etc

Voting ends Monday 1/24 at 10PM ET

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I'm back from hiking and happy that we have traction on someone who's been on a lot of wolf lists but who hasn't had a coordinated voting effort seen through, besides one early wagon. I'm hoping the energy doesn't fizzle out this time.

Unyeet Alley, yeet Vis

Frame 3 Official Vote Tally

meats (1)- lawpy
alley (2) - violet
YK (1) - Mel
Vis (4) - puppy, april, sporty, blue

Ineligible to vote: AM

7/16

Missing: Etc etc

Voting ends Monday 1/24 at 10PM ET

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Sorry, I probably won't be able to put much input during this day cycle. I've been trying to do to a writeup about the weird Fluff wafflefest, but I've had a busy couple of days with classes and preparing for my last vet school interview that's tomorrow morning. I'll probably end up looking at other people's ISOs/writeups for today. Just letting you all know why I'm doing that ahead of time, since I usually think it's pretty wolfy when people don't try to come to their own conclusions.

D4 will be different though! I really want to finish that writeup since I'm almost certain that it will help narrow down some suspects (if I'm still alive ofc).

For now, unyeet Alley, yeet Vis. Still have concerns about them not participating in the 3-way villager tie from D2.

I haven’t been impressed with YK’s contributions. I looked through her posts yesterday, wasn’t feeling anything that made me village. One mediocre reads list, a lot of defensiveness and not a lot of apparent wolf hunting. Flipping her would also resolve vissy for everyone else who I think is village.

I’m going to
Yeet YK

Frame 3 Official Vote Tally

meats (1)- lawpy (c)
alley (-) -
YK (2) - Mel, samac
Vis (5) - puppsy, april, sporty, blue, alley, violet

Ineligible to vote: AM

8/16

Missing: Etc etc

Voting ends in 4 HOURS at 10PM ET

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I agree with the Vis vote. I think there's likely a wolf there. I usually expect to see more thoughtful game solving from village vis. If it gets close enough to need it push it over the edge I'll move but I want to see what happens if things are a little closer with some other players.

Yeet YK

yeet Melchizedek

Frame 3 Official Vote Tally

meats (1)- lawpy
alley () -
YK (2) - Mel, samac, Zenge
Vis (4) - puppy, april, sporty, blue, violet
Mel (1) - fluff

Leading: @Viscernable

Ineligible to vote: AM

10/16

Missing: @alleycat03, @youngkal, @vetmedhead, @Viscernable, @potentialsheltervet, @OctopusDoctorpus

Day close: ~3.25 hours EST/9PM CST/7PM FANTASYLAND

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Frame 3 Official Vote Tally

meats (1)- lawpy
alley () -
YK (2) - Mel, samac, Zenge
Vis (4) - puppy, april, sporty, blue, violet
Mel (1) - fluff

Leading: @Viscernable

Ineligible to vote: AM

10/16

Missing: @alleycat03, @youngkal, @vetmedhead, @Viscernable, @potentialsheltervet, @OctopusDoctorpus

Day close: ~2 hours EST/9PM CST/7PM FANTASYLAND

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I'm going to vote yk

For the weird reads I previously mentioned. I don't know if I am stupid but I just am not seeing the visc vote and still have reservations about the fact that a lot of that wagon took off because of her placement on dubz's read list. People going back to point out wolfy things sometimes feels like working backward to justify an answer you already want. I do have reservations that so many people in my village reads are voting her

Frame 3 Official Vote Tally

meats (1)- lawpy
alley () -
YK (4) - Mel, samac, Zenge, meats
Vis (6) - puppy, april, sporty, blue, violet, YK
Mel (1) - fluff

Leading: @Viscernable

Ineligible to vote: AM

12/16

Missing: @alleycat03, @Viscernable, @potentialsheltervet, @OctopusDoctorpus

Day close: 1.5 hours EST/9PM CST/7PM FANTASYLAND

Yeet YK

I’m contemplating more about her vs Vis and right now I’m feeling marginally better about Vis

For now, vote mel.

Frame 3 Official Vote Tally

meats (1)- lawpy
alley () -
YK (5) - Mel, samac, Zenge, meats, alley
Vis (6) - puppy, april, sporty, blue, violet, kal
Mel (2) - fluff, shelty

Leading: @Viscernable

Ineligible to vote: AM

14/16

Missing: @Viscernable, @OctopusDoctorpus

Day close: ~1 hour EST/9PM CST/7PM FANTASYLAND

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Frame 3 Official Vote Tally

meats (1)- lawpy
alley () -
YK (5) - Mel, samac, Zenge, meats, alley
Vis (6) - puppy, april, sporty, blue, violet, kal
Mel (2) - fluff, shelty

Leading: @Viscernable

Ineligible to vote: AM

14/16

Missing: @Viscernable, @OctopusDoctorpus

Day close: ~30 minutes EST/9PM CST/7PM FANTASYLAND

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Unvote YK
Vote Visc


1. I’m trying to solidify the divide between these two because I’m not in the mood for another tie and I don’t trust the rest of you hooligans while I’m driving home.
2. @justafluff @potentialsheltervet your complaints about me have been registered. Can we crack some of the people more in the PoE and if I’m wrong then by all means vote me.

Frame 3 Official Vote Tally

meats (1)- lawpy
alley () -
YK (4) - samac, Zenge, meats, alley
Vis (7) - puppy, april, sporty, blue, violet, kal, Mel
Mel (2) - fluff, shelty

Leading: @Viscernable

Ineligible to vote: AM

14/16

Missing: @Viscernable, @OctopusDoctorpus

Day close: ~20 minutes EST/9PM CST/7PM FANTASYLAND

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Ofc I will self-pres when needed but for the record I most want to

Yeet April

Based on feels throughout the game

I’m the alley janitor, blocker
 
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okay DANG did I miss a lot!!!
So so happy Vis was a wolf and honestly reading that rojo/fauxjo way after the fact was very entertaining, I probably would've been stressed/confused if I was present when it happened. (Dana flashbacks)

I will share my revised POE Tuesday night hopefully. From a glance, I think Stoat and Lawpy (aside from the weird rojo- still need to evaluate) gained some village points for me. April I'm questioning not being as deep in my POE. Meaty and Mel are very deep in the POE. And I'm questioning Fluff, Alley, & Samac a bit more now (all of them got a little bit closer to my POE, but not my main focus right now). PSV is the only person I have consistently read village this game.

Anyways, I need to go to bed. My dogs will not be happy if I sleep in and have less time to walk them before class. Good work, y'all!!
 
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okay DANG did I miss a lot!!!
So so happy Vis was a wolf and honestly reading that rojo/fauxjo way after the fact was very entertaining, I probably would've been stressed/confused if I was present when it happened. (Dana flashbacks)

I will share my revised POE Tuesday night hopefully. From a glance, I think Stoat and Lawpy (aside from the weird rojo- still need to evaluate) gained some village points for me. April I'm questioning not being as deep in my POE. Meaty and Mel are very deep in the POE. And I'm questioning Fluff, Alley, & Samac a bit more now (all of them got a little bit closer to my POE, but not my main focus right now). PSV is the only person I have consistently read village this game.

Anyways, I need to go to bed. My dogs will not be happy if I sleep in and have less time to walk them before class. Good work, y'all!!
Lol puppy I just can’t seem to escape your POE this game at all! Have a good night!
 
Frame 2 Official Voting Tally (as of post 2094)

Vis (1) - zuri
Meats (1) - AM
Violet (6) - Lawpy, puppy, meats, blue, alley, shelty
OctoDoc (2) - True, violet
zuri () -
Sporty (1) - Mel
Oxygen (1) - Octodoc
Ivy (-)
Fluff (1) - Sporty

Leading: @violetvett

Ineligible: samac

13/20
missing:
@youngkal @justafluff @Viscernable @IvyMoose @WorthlessOxygen @Zenge142 @Aprilthearab

Day close: 1.2 hours 10PM EST/9PM CST/7PM FANTASYLAND

yeet SportPonies
I'll return the sentiment.

Maybe I'll pull a Mr Waffles depending on how things go.



Imma stick to my guns // gut

Vote IvyMoose

Frame 2 Official Voting Tally (as of post 2189)

Vis (1) - zuri
Meats (1) - AM
Violet (6) - Lawpy, puppy, meats, blue, alley, shelty
OctoDoc (2) - True, violet
zuri () -
Sporty (2) - Mel, jfluff
Oxygen (1) - Octodoc
Ivy (-)
Fluff (3) - Sporty, April, ykal

Leading: @violetvett

Ineligible: samac

16/20
missing:
@Viscernable @IvyMoose @WorthlessOxygen @Zenge142

Day close: <35 MINUTES 10PM EST/9PM CST/7PM FANTASYLAND

I think I’m going to stick with my gut on this. They only felt better yesterday after pressure was applied and some of their posts after Dubz and genny flipped, which I already highlighted and VMH pointed out, really seemed off. Haven’t really seen a lot today that’s made me feel any better, including the retaliatory vote on sporty.

Yeet Fluff

Finally caught up! responding to a bunch of stuff here.


People on my wolfy side of things include Sporty, Vis, Violet (really trying to figure her out), possibly Ivy after those ISO's by April, and a couple other folks who I won't list because I'm not prepared to defend my opinion on them. DocOc is actually less in my wolf books now, as I'll explain below.


Yeah, I hear that.


Not sure I have enough data for a more or less, just a "wolfish" pile.





So, I've been stewing on Octo, and I actually came up with a theory that explains his behavior pretty well: he was really hyped up to be a wolf, but got a vanillager role and it took a lot of the wind out of his sails. Then, while still feeling a bit put-out, the thread took off and he's been struggling to get up the motivation to keep up.

Seriously. If someone hyped for the game got to be a wolf in their first proper game, I just have a really hard time seeing them be so absent and checked out.

Unyeet Octo

After seeing the tone of her more recent posts, I think the chances of violet being a misyeet are higher than I'm willing to risk.
Unyeet violetvett
I don't think Ivy is a wolf. They're playing very similar to how they played in the noob game, and I think they truly are just busy.
Hoping I get struck by motivation in the next 25 minutes.

Frame 2 Official Voting Tally (as of post 2224)

Vis (1) - zuri
Meats (1) - AM
Violet (5) - Lawpy, puppy, meats, blue, alley
OctoDoc (1) - violet
zuri () -
Sporty (2) - Mel, jfluff
Oxygen (1) - Octodoc
Ivy (2) - April, ykal
Fluff (2) - Sporty, Zenge

Leading: @violetvett

Ineligible: samac

15/20
missing:
@Viscernable @IvyMoose @WorthlessOxygen @Truenamer @potentialsheltervet

Day close: <20 MINUTES 10PM EST/9PM CST/7PM FANTASYLAND

just caught up after spending a while cleaning our apartment. i think i've mostly felt defensive of veterans picking on noobs for acting nooby, which feels central to the arguments behind the violet, ivy, and fluff bandwagons... april's extensive iso of ivy is the most substantial offender of this, so I'm going to...

unyeet vis
yeet april

Unyeet Octo, yeet Ivy.

For self-prev. I'm probably dead but whatever, I'll give it a shot.

Unyeet Violetvet
I 100% believe that there could be duplicate role names

Mayor I'm sorry, but I'm gonna have to
Yeet justafluff

@Aprilthearab
thank you for ISOing Ivy. I don't know why but I had forgotten about most of Ivy's posts. I had thought she had been completely absent after voting. Seeing it piled up does make her very sus, more than the suspicions I've felt about violet. Mr Waffles, by your grace,

unyeet sporty
yeet Ivy

Unyeet violet
Yeet fluff


I believe her role reveal

I buy it.
Unyeet violet, yeet Octodoc

Okay my current wolf reads (mainly been focusing on noobs, will have more time to ISO veterans tomorrow) are Ivy, Fluff, and maybe Stoaty. I'm willing to give Ivy another chance due to her inactivity/job but there's not enough there for me to vote yet.

Yeet fluffy

Yeet Ivy

Feel even between her and fluff and selfishly I want to keep my tee around more

Frame 2 Official Voting Tally (as of post 2224)

Vis (-)
Meats (1) - AM
Violet (3) - Lawpy, meats, blue,
OctoDoc (-)
zuri () -
Sporty (1) - Mel,
Oxygen (1) - Octodoc
Ivy (4) - April, ykal, violet, fluff
Fluff (5) - Sporty, Zenge, shelty, puppy, alley
April (1) - zuri

TIED

Ineligible: samac

17/20
missing:
@IvyMoose @WorthlessOxygen @Truenamer

Day close: 4 MINUTES 10PM EST/9PM CST/7PM FANTASYLAND

I have no idea who to vote for so I'm going to vote to yeet Sporty.

I can defend it, I'm sure I'm already in her bad books, and it shouldn't cause a tie.

Frame 2 Official Voting Tally (as of post 2300)

Vis ()
Meats (1) - AM
Violet (2) - Lawpy, meats
OctoDoc (1) - blue
zuri () -
Sporty (1) - Mel
Oxygen (1) - Octodoc
Ivy (5) - April, ykal, violet, jfluff, Vis
Fluff (5) - Sporty, Zenge, potentialshelter, alley, puppydr
April (1) - zuri

Leading: *freeshrugs*

Ineligible: samac

16/20
missing:
@Viscernable @IvyMoose @WorthlessOxygen @Truenamer

Day close: ~1 MINUTE 10PM EST/9PM CST/7PM FANTASYLAND

aw gee i don't think i can watch fluff die if this is even fair...

unyeet april
yeet violet

oh wait
unyeet violet
yeet ivy

Unyeet worthlessoxygen
Yeet vis

Invite violet, vote ivy

Frame 2 Official *FINAL* Voting Tally (as of post 2324- when I closed vote)

Vis (1) - Octo
Meats (1) - AM
Violet (1) - Lawpy
OctoDoc (1) - blue
zuri () -
Sporty (2) - Mel, True
Oxygen ()
Ivy (7) - April, ykal, violet, jfluff, Vis, zuri, vmh
Fluff (5) - Sporty, Zenge, potentialshelter, alley, puppydr
April ()

Leading: *freeshrugs*

Ineligible: samac

18/20
missing:
@IvyMoose @WorthlessOxygen

Day close:10PM EST/9PM CST/7PM FANTASYLAND
 
How’s about you answer my question instead of posting bloccs of quotes Lawper :corny:
 
Going to bed, but off the top of my head about Zenge
Saying he liked the Vis yeet but never actually changed his vote to Vis and kept it on Kal instead who I think is a villager - kept that Vis read wolfy to give himself a cushion when she flipped without actually having to bus
He also never answered me when I asked him about the potential for switching, kinda weird
Was insistent on the Fluff vote for a while there and I never really understood why, seems pretty unlike him to go for what feels like low-hanging fruit
I did note that he had his vote on Mel on D1, but doesn't necessarily mean anything when Mel had no other votes, can't remember why his vote was there either
And I know I shouldn't say the C word, and I don't want to go there just yet but his play could theoretically be explained by conversion - votes wolf D1, soft cleared by voting ISO, wolves see a great opportunity to take on someone that's not under heat and also get his case off of them - not that this game necessarily requires conversion for him to be considered wolfy here

Again Zenge is not at the top of my wolf list right now but I wanted to entertain the idea while we're talking about it
 
He also never answered me when I asked him about the potential for switching, kinda weird
I liked to the post to indicate I would, but I didn’t want to say it incase it came down to a few seconds, I didn’t want the wolves to be able to anticipate my switch.
 
I liked to the post to indicate I would, but I didn’t want to say it incase it came down to a few seconds, I didn’t want the wolves to be able to anticipate my switch.
I figured, but still don't really know what to think of why you never actually put your vote down on your supposed wolfiest read
 
Was insistent on the Fluff vote for a while there and I never really understood why, seems pretty unlike him to go for what feels like low-hanging fruit
I gave my reasons for fluff. If you want to retrospectively debate them in the context of the threadstate at the time, I’m happy to do that.
 
Frame 1 Official Voting Tally

Dubbie () -
AM () -
True () -
Mel (2) - Lawpy, Vis
Bluey () -
genny (2) - AM, samac
Zuriburi () -
Samac (1) - Sporty
Puppy () -
Octopus (-) -
Fluff (2) - alley, puppy
Violet (1) - April
Lawpy (1) - Oxygen
Ivy (3) - kal, Octopus, genny
Vis (4)- zuri, True, Dubz, Blue
April (2) - Meats, Mel
Zenge () -
kal (2) - shelty, fluff

Leading: @Viscernable

19/23, many votes are missing.
@Zenge142, @IvyMoose, @violetvett

Day close: ~1 hour: 10PM EST/9PM CST/7PM FANTASYLAND TODAY

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Hmm lets try this

Unyeet Mels
Yeet stoaty

Stoats is kind of wigging me out.

Yeet Bluestoat

If I remember right, Ivy wasn't super active in the noob game at the beginning. I think they were more active later on though (or maybe just seemed to be since lots of people were dead). I voted Ivy like 3 times because of that last game and turned out they were village, so I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt for now.


Yeah, I would say neutral, maybe a LITTLE wolf leaning. Or maybe she's 3P? Overall, I just don't feel confident in yeeting fluff right now.

Looking into Vis, since that's a popular option. I'm not hearing any strong alarm bells from their posts but they haven't really contributed any helpful insight to the thread yet.

Yeet puppy. Puppy has also been missing, and not sure I like those original couple of posts. They're just asking some questions and mainly flying under the radar. I know there was some unyeeting of puppy earlier, was there a good reason why?

Frame 1 Official Voting Tally

Dubbie () -
AM () -
True () -
Mel (1) - Vis
Bluey (2) - Lawpy, Zenge
genny (2) - AM, samac
Zuriburi () -
Samac (1) - Sporty
Puppy (1) - violet
Octopus (-) -
Fluff (2) - alley, puppy
Violet (1) - April
Lawpy (1) - Oxygen
Ivy (3) - kal, Octopus, genny
Vis (4)- zuri, True, Dubz, Blue
April (2) - Meats, Mel
Zenge () -
kal (2) - shelty, fluff

Leading: @Viscernable

22/23, a single vote is missing.
@IvyMoose

Day close: ~45 minutes: 10PM EST/9PM CST/7PM FANTASYLAND TODAY

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Oh but what if

unyeet Vis yeet stoat

I definitely see where this is coming from.

I’ve felt better about Fluff overall with their latest set of posts… I think I want to see where this goes. Also stoat was pretty pingy in the noob game too, so I’m willing to give it some time.

Unyeet Stoat
Yeet Kal

Frame 1 Official Voting Tally

Dubbie () -
AM () -
True () -
Mel (1) - Vis
Bluey (2) - Lawpy, Dubz
genny (2) - AM, samac
Zuriburi () -
Samac (1) - Sporty
Puppy (1) - violet
Octopus (-) -
Fluff (2) - alley, puppy
Violet (1) - April
Lawpy (1) - Oxygen
Ivy (3) - kal, Octopus, genny
Vis (3)- zuri, True, Blue

April (2) - Meats, Mel
Zenge () -
kal (3) - shelty, fluff, Zenge

Leading: Too many ties

22/23, a single vote is missing
@IvyMoose

Day close: ~30 minutes: 10PM EST/9PM CST/7PM FANTASYLAND TODAY

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There's a lot to read. Agreed
Unyeet IvyMoose

Genny has informed me that Kal isn’t one of the noobs like I thought and is someone who hasn’t played in a long time, and now I feel bad.

Ugh.
Fine.
Unyeet Kal

Unyeet genny

I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO

Frame 1 Official Voting Tally

Dubbie () -
AM () -
True () -
Mel (1) - Vis
Bluey (2) - Lawpy, Dubz
genny (1) - AM
Zuriburi () -
Samac (1) - Sporty
Puppy (1) - violet
Octopus (-) -
Fluff (2) - alley, puppy
Violet (1) - April
Lawpy (1) - Oxygen
Ivy (2) - kal, genny
Vis (3)- zuri, True, Blue
April (2) - Meats, Mel
Zenge () -
kal (2) - shelty, fluff

Leading: @Viscernable

29/23, many votes are missing
@IvyMoose, @OctopusDoctorpus, @Zenge142, @samac

Day close: ~15 minutes: 10PM EST/9PM CST/7PM FANTASYLAND TODAY

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I truly hate voting when I’m not fully informed. I’ve barely read half the thread at this point. I’m feeling better about fluff and true, kind of bothered about youngkal’s handling of the moose pressure vote and zuriburi’s reasoning for voting me feeling like they’re misrepresenting the situation. Both small pings but I’m pretty lost and behind. And overall I have felt better about zuriburi.

Unyeet mel
Yeet youngkal

Yeet Kal
Post 934 made me feel a little suspicious. It just seemed like a heavier response than was necessary with the question marks and the wolf accusation. Not a very heavy feeling, but it's the best I've got on this D1.

UNYEET IVY

bc i have to at least try and stay past day one?? ugh self preservation

Frame 1 Official Voting Tally

Dubbie () -
AM () -
True () -
Mel () -
Bluey (2) - Lawpy, Dubz
genny (1) - AM
Zuriburi () -
Samac (1) - Sporty
Puppy (1) - violet
Octopus (-) -
Fluff (2) - alley, puppy
Violet (1) - April
Lawpy (1) - Oxygen
Ivy (2) - kal, genny
Vis (3)- zuri, True, Blue
April (2) - Meats, Mel
Zenge () -
kal (4) - shelty, fluff, Vis, octopus

Leading: @youngkal

20/23, a few votes are missing
@IvyMoose, @Zenge142, @samac

Day close: ~10 minutes: 10PM EST/9PM CST/7PM FANTASYLAND TODAY

View attachment 348680

I gotta go where the read takes me

Yeet stoats

Yeet Mel.

Frame 1 Official Voting Tally

Dubbie () -
AM () -
True () -
Mel (1) - Zenge
Bluey (3) - Lawpy, Dubz, samac
genny (1) - AM
Zuriburi () -
Samac (1) - Sporty
Puppy (1) - violet
Octopus (-) -
Fluff (2) - alley, puppy
Violet (1) - April
Lawpy (1) - Oxygen
Ivy (1) - genny
Vis (3)- zuri, True, Blue
April (2) - Meats, Mel
Zenge () -
kal (4) - shelty, fluff, Vis, octopus

Leading: @youngkal

21/23, a couple votes are missing
@IvyMoose, @youngkal

Day close: ~5 minutes: 10PM EST/9PM CST/7PM FANTASYLAND TODAY

View attachment 348681

YEETBluey

bc self presevation

FINAL Frame 1 Official Voting Tally

Dubbie () -
AM () -
True () -
Mel (1) - Zenge
Bluey (4) - Lawpy, Dubz, samac, kal
genny (1) - AM
Zuriburi () -
Samac (1) - Sporty
Puppy (1) - violet
Octopus (-) -
Fluff (2) - alley, puppy
Violet (1) - April
Lawpy (1) - Oxygen
Ivy (1) - genny
Vis (3)- zuri, True, Blue
April (2) - Meats, Mel
Zenge () -
kal (4) - shelty, fluff, Vis, octopus

TIED: @youngkal and @bluestoat

22/23, a single vote was missing
@IvyMoose

DAY CLOSED!


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Whoops. Didn’t mean to leave out Alley.

Village
Alleycat03 - I had her as village from a tone read really on and I still feel like this is probably village Alley but she’s at the bottom of my village. I haven’t seen a lot the last couple cycles that make me super confident in her being a villager but nothing to make me do a 180 and change my read.
Hmm 🤔
 
I figured, but still don't really know what to think of why you never actually put your vote down on your supposed wolfiest read
I used my vote for strategic reasons like I stated, and if I had moved it at any point the argument would just be that I bussed vis, so it seems like regardless of the choice I made, vote vis or not, there isn’t an argument that can’t be twisted against me to fit the narrative, so I’m sort of in a damned if I do damned if I don’t situation with this.

Either I didn’t vote vis because we’re partners or I would have and we were bussing.

Vis was never the “most wolfy” of my reads btw.
 
I’m willing to reevaluate Alley, but I felt like she came out of the gate swinging village on D1.

Alley aside the vote movement in general, around Fluff really freaked me out. It felt like once there was a chance of it taking off people got opportunistic.

I’m still not ready to village read Fluff, but I’d be uneasy about voting there again given how readily some people seemed to jump on out of nowhere.

Think the above is bugging me

Why though? I get why Ivy was suspicious, I agree with that. I’ve struggled with Fluff this game, so I agree with that part of Alley’s post too.

I was pretty neutral on Violet but the role reveal seemed believable enough and the frustration read as genuine to me.

What about it is bugging you?
Thinking
 
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Okay it wasn’t actually as long as I thought it was going to be.



I’m getting some weird vibes from fluffy. Thinking on this some more, but for now I want to

Yeet justafluff

Can you talk about what triggered the weird vibes?

I have a few more things from that initial feeling I had, but I’ll wait until Alley responds to this.

I did a quick ISO while I’m eating my Mac and cheese.


First post when she brings up the angleshooting reasons of role PMs going out.

Fishing to find out villagers who have a high bowling score, came off to me as a weird joke, like a wolf trying to fit in.

Another odd joke that seemed wolfy

Same as above, another lupine joke
All of these posts remind me of my favorite gif:

steve buscemi youth GIF

Brings up the angleshooting AGAIN even though it’s NAI


Defends AM as village based on the bounty hunting game, except AM was 3P in that game.


Another odd joke, like the tone and a slight sprinkle of sus towards Mel.


Brought up the angleshooting AGAIN and lightly mentions that supposedly she is vanilla. Doesn’t make sense to me because she’s experienced enough at this point to know there’s no benefit to role revealing or telling the thread whether or not you have a PR, but claiming you’re vanilla will make sure the wolves don’t target you.


Seems to backtrack and preemptively apologize. Stood out to me like she was trying to poke someone and sprinkle sus, but then backtrack her thoughts.


Trying too hard to explain herself and unyeet her joking vote. I do hope she’s feeling okay and recovering from Covid though!

Ok your turn :heckyeah:

Still attached to the idea though that if you got your role earlier you must have a PR…

This stood out to me actually for a different reason. It felt like Fluff was trying to fish a little bit and get a soft confirmation about the existence of a PR in Stoat’s slot or lack there of. Like wolf chat was like “we need to try and figure out who has a PR so we can prioritize NKs” and this read like a clumsy attempt to fish for that.

Hmm 🤔
 
My immediate POE is very broad still.

It contains meats, April, Sporty, Octo, alley, yk, stoat, Vis, and Mel.

It helps that some names are incompatible with each other though.

Why Alley? There’s some others I’m curious about too, but Alley being in the POE really stands out to me.

🤔
 
dubz (1) - Sporty
AM (1) - genny
True
(1) - stoat
Mel (1) - Lawpy
stoat (1) - True
True
() -
stoat (2) - True, stoat
genny (1) - AM
stoat (1) - True
True (1) - stoat
zuri (1) - fluff
Mel (2) - Lawpy, samac
samac (1) - puppy
Mel (1) - Lawpy
puppy (1) - samac
stoat (2) - True, alley
zuri () -
Octo (1) - fluff
True (2) - stoat, zuri
Mel (2) - Lawpy, dubz
fluff (1) - violet
stoat (1) - alley
violet (1) - True
Mel (3) - Lawpy, dubz, Vis
Lawpy (1) - Oxy
Ivy
(1) - kal
True (1) - zuri
stoat () -
Octo () -
Mel (2) - Lawpy, Vis
violet () -
fluff (2) - violet, alley
samac () -
fluff (3) - violet, alley, puppy
True () -
Vis (1) - zuri
AM () -
puppy () -
Ivy (2) - kal, Octo
Vis (2) - zuri, True
fluff (2) - alley, puppy
Vis (3) - zuri, True, dubz
April (1) - meats
April (2) - meats, Mel
Ivy (3) - kal, Octo, genny
dubz
() -
samac (1) - Sporty
violet (1) - April
Zenge (1) - stoat
kal (1) - shelter
genny (2) - AM, samac
kal (2) - shelter, fluff
Zenge () -
Vis (4) - zuri, True, dubz, stoat
Mel (1) - Vis
stoat (1) - Lawpy
stoat (2) - Lawpy, Zenge
puppy (1) - violet
Vis (3) - zuri, True, stoat
stoat (3) - Lawpy, Zenge, dubz
stoat (2) - Lawpy, dubz
kal (3) - shelter, fluff, Zenge
Ivy (2) - kal, genny
kal (2) - shelter, fluff
genny (1) - AM
Mel () -
kal (3) - shelter, fluff, Vis
kal (4) - shelter, fluff, Vis, Octo
Ivy
(1) - genny
stoat (3) - Lawpy, dubz, samac
Mel (1) - Zenge
stoat (4) - Lawpy, dubz, samac, kal

22/23
Missing: Ivy
Vis (1) - Lawpy
meats (1) - AM
meats (2) - AM, Zenge
violet (1) - April
Vis (2) - Lawpy, zuri
zuri
(1) - Mel
Octo (1) - stoat
Octo (2) - stoat, True
zuri
() -
Sporty (1) - Mel
Vis (1) - zuri
violet (2) - April, Lawpy
violet (3) - April, Lawpy, puppy
violet (4) - April, Lawpy, puppy, meats
Octo (1) - True
violet (5) - April, Lawpy, puppy, meats, stoat
Oxy (1) - Octo
meats (1) - AM
violet (6) - April, Lawpy, puppy, meats, stoat, alley
Ivy (1) - violet
violet (7) - April, Lawpy, puppy, meats, stoat, alley, shelter
fluff (1) - Sporty
violet (6) - Lawpy, puppy, meats, stoat, alley, shelter
Ivy () -
Octo (2) - True, violet
Sporty (2) - Mel, fluff
Ivy (1) - April
Ivy (2) - April, kal
fluff (2) - Sporty, Zenge
Octo (1) - violet
violet (5) - Lawpy, puppy, meats, stoat, alley
Vis () -
April (1) - zuri
Octo
() -
Ivy (3) - April, kal, violet
violet (4) - Lawpy, meats, stoat, alley
fluff (3) - Sporty, Zenge, shelter
Sporty (1) - Mel
Ivy (4) - April, kal, violet, fluff
violet (3) - Lawpy, meats, stoat
fluff (4) - Sporty, Zenge, shelter, alley
violet (2) - Lawpy, meats
Octo (1) - stoat
fluff (5) - Sporty, Zenge, shelter, alley
Ivy (5) - April, kal, violet, fluff, Vis
Sporty (2) - Mel, True
April () -
violet (3) - Lawpy, meats, zuri
violet (2) - Lawpy, meats
Ivy (6) - April, kal, violet, fluff, Vis, zuri
Oxy
() -
Vis (1) - Octo
violet (1) - Lawpy
Ivy (7) - April, kal, violet, fluff, Vis, zuri

18/20
Missing: Ivy, Oxy
violet (1) - Lawpy
Octo (1) - violet
violet () -
meats (1) - Lawpy
Octo () -
alley (1) - violet
violet (1) - stoat
violet () -
violet (1) - April
alley (2) - violet, stoat
violet () -
alley (3) - violet, stoat, True
kal (1) - Mel
Vis (1) - puppy
Vis (2) - puppy, April
Vis (3) - puppy, April, Sporty
alley (1) - violet
Vis (4) - puppy, April, Sporty, stoat
alley () -
Vis (5) - puppy, April, Sporty, stoat, violet
kal (2) - Mel, samac
kal (3) - Mel, samac, Zenge
Mel (1) - fluff
Vis (6) - puppy, April, Sporty, stoat, violet, kal
kal (4) - Mel, samac, Zenge, meats
kal (5) - Mel, samac, Zenge, meats, alley
Mel (2) - fluff, shelter
kal (4) - samac, Zenge, meats, alley
Vis (7) - puppy, April, Sporty, stoat, violet, kal, Mel
April (1) - Vis
Mel (1) - shelter
Vis (8) - puppy, April, Sporty, stoat, violet, kal, Mel, fluff
Vis (7) - puppy, April, Sporty, stoat, violet, kal, Mel
Mel (2) - shelter, fluff
kal (3) - samac, Zenge, meats
Vis (8) - puppy, April, Sporty, stoat, violet, kal, Mel, alley
Mel (1) - shelter
Vis (9) - puppy, April, Sporty, stoat, violet, kal, Mel, alley, fluff
April () -
kal (4) - samac, Zenge, meats, Vis
meats () -
Vis (10) - puppy, April, Sporty, stoat, violet, kal, Mel, alley, fluff, Lawpy

16/17
Missing: Octo
 
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This isn’t village code though Mel is going to try and claim it is I’m sure. I originally didn’t believe all village abilities would be one time use and thought we would have some multi use abilities. But it breaks down to this:
We’ve had a flip of multi use abilities. It’s been wolf.
Every village ability we’ve had has been one time use.
Mel is using a multi use ability.
I find that mechanically sketchy.
 
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Lol puppy I just can’t seem to escape your POE this game at all! Have a good night!
Sorry Fluff 🙁 I just made a confused face last night when you unyeeted Vis. All Vis did was reveal that they were the blocker and you immediately unyeeted them. I think Violet gave village a lot more to work with when we decided to unyeet (by saying she was a strike), I didn't have the same feeling when Vis said they blocked people. I just thought it was weird how quickly you unyeeted.
If it makes you feel better, I feel like most people are neutral or in my POE than not lol
 
So you think two wolves chose to act on the same person on N1?
Catching up on the thread since I just woke up but didn't you say your role affects the day cycle? So Vis blocks YK at night to establish village cred and you prevent YK from being yoten D2 to establish village cred.
Seems plausible to me 🤔
 
This isn’t village code though Mel is going to try and claim it is I’m sure. I originally didn’t believe all village abilities would be one time use and thought we would have some multi use abilities. But it breaks down to this:
We’ve had a flip of multi use abilities. It’s been wolf.
Every village ability we’ve had has been one time use.
Mel is using a multi use ability.
I find that mechanically sketchy.
How is this not village code? You’re using the setup, mechanics, and assumptions about mod decisions for game design. You’re literally trying to use ability/role formatting to figure out affiliation. You are using a fallacy to justify a wolf!read of me, this is an indication you’re tunneling.

Catching up on the thread since I just woke up but didn't you say your role affects the day cycle? So Vis blocks YK at night to establish village cred and you prevent YK from being yoten D2 to establish village cred.
Seems plausible to me 🤔
How does protecting someone from vote establish village cred? If I was protecting from a NK, then I can see using it for village cred. I picked YK for shiggles with 0 strategy behind it.

If I was a wolf that knew YK had vote protection, you’d expect myself or another wolf to pressure YK on the day that she had the protection. If she had been voted, this would have wasted a vote cycle, made YK look sketchy, and set up a misvote the next day. Notice that’s not what happened. I saw YK role reveal, but not admit to the protection D2 and I drove a vote on her D3 because that kind of half-truth plays are sketchy as hell.