broken skin?

[razor1911]

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Consider the following scenarios ( assume all patients to be HCV+ and in the TERMINAL stage of HIV ):

1) Suppose you had a deep paper cut. There's no bleeding and no scab yet either. But then, 5+ hours later, the patient's saliva gets on the location of the cut.

2) From the same scenario above, assume now that you were wearing gloves. You were trimming something that was from the mouth of the patient. While trimming, you accidentally tear a glove and the buzzing razor-like instrument hits the site of the deep paper cut on bare skin. No bleeding is evident. But now, the site of the paper cut is red and appears indented.

3) With the 5-hour lapsed, deep paper cut, you put gloves over them. But this time, you're doing something literally akin to washing your hands in the patient's blood and saliva. Pretty soon, you feel pain on the site of the deep cut. It feels like the pain from washing a fresh wound. The gloves were on alright and there was no evident percutaneous injury. But you can't help but wonder......

So for all the above three scenarios, what is the likelihood of HCV and HIV transmission from the patient to the healthcare provider?

Note: I'm not seeking medical advice. These are what-if questions. I have a habit of having cuts on my hands.

Thanks in advance.

 

[H_Caulfield]

Before this thread is locked:

Are you going to get HIV from saliva, transferred from the patient in the open air to your paper cut?

Was there someone behind you, sneakily injecting you with HIV+ blood while you were playing with the saliva? If so, then YES, ABSOLUTELY.

 

[Blade28]

Consider the following scenarios ( assume all patients to be HCV+ and in the TERMINAL stage of HIV ):

1) Suppose you had a deep paper cut. There's no bleeding and no scab yet either. But then, 5+ hours later, the patient's saliva gets on the location of the cut.

2) From the same scenario above, assume now that you were wearing gloves. You were trimming something that was from the mouth of the patient. While trimming, you accidentally tear a glove and the buzzing razor-like instrument hits the site of the deep paper cut on bare skin. No bleeding is evident. But now, the site of the paper cut is red and appears indented.

3) With the 5-hour lapsed, deep paper cut, you put gloves over them. But this time, you're doing something literally akin to washing your hands in the patient's blood and saliva. Pretty soon, you feel pain on the site of the deep cut. It feels like the pain from washing a fresh wound. The gloves were on alright and there was no evident percutaneous injury. But you can't help but wonder......

So for all the above three scenarios, what is the likelihood of HCV and HIV transmission from the patient to the healthcare provider?

Note: I'm not seeking medical advice. These are what-if questions. I have a habit of having cuts on my hands.

Thanks in advance.

What? Are those are all purely hypothetical situations? Your description of the look and color of the paper cut or the feeling of pain near the cut - did those actually happen to you?

 

[yaah]

There are plenty of published data on risks of HIV/HCV transmission in medical settings. What are you asking for hints at specifics beyond these data, which are unlikely to be available to the level of detail that you seem to require. If you are truly concerned, I would consult your own physician or an expert in transmission or infectious disease. Posting it in this forum beyond the simple general question will only lead to unhelpful speculation and (as seen above) trollish responses.