BS 10, PS 11, VR 05 !! Need help

[vimal98]

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Guys,

I got 26O, with BS 10, PS 11 very comfortive but I got 5 in verbal !!! Don't know what to do. Do I have any chance ?

my science GPA is 3.46 and Non science is 3.85.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Geronimo]

Guys,

I got 26O, with BS 10, PS 11 very comfortive but I got 5 in verbal !!! Don't know what to do. Do I have any chance ?

my science GPA is 3.46 and Non science is 3.85.

Thanks in advance.

You could take a shot with several D.O. schools. I would certainly consider the "start-ups" like PCOM-Atlanta, LECOM-Bradenton, the Touro one, and the newer schools like VCOM, AZCOM, and Pikeville.

 

[vimal98]

You could take a shot with several D.O. schools. I would certainly consider the "start-ups" like PCOM-Atlanta, LECOM-Bradenton, the Touro one, and the newer schools like VCOM, AZCOM, and Pikeville.

Well I already applied to 6 schools that includes PCOM, DMUCOM, UNECOM, CCOM, NYCOM and KCOM.

Just have to wait for rejections i guess.

 

[Nate]

Guys,

I got 26O, with BS 10, PS 11 very comfortive but I got 5 in verbal !!! Don't know what to do. Do I have any chance ?

my science GPA is 3.46 and Non science is 3.85.

Thanks in advance.

yes

 

[docbill]

Good Positive attitude. NOT

Why not just wait to hear back from them. If you are not native speaker... The schools will recognize that. If not you may want send them a letter explaining the fact. Short and Sweet.

Or panic and think you are doomed.

 

[vimal98]

If you are not native speaker... The schools will recognize that.

Hmm, well just hoping for that. Never spoke English in regular conversation until I came to US in 2001.

 

[OnMyWayThere]

Here is some VERY good advice for you: Contact the director of admissions at the schools that you wish to apply to. They all, or at least most, will respond to your chances. Just ask them if they think you should apply or wait and retake in April. They are very honest and good people.

 

[vimal98]

Here is some VERY good advice for you: Contact the director of admissions at the schools that you wish to apply to. They all, or at least most, will respond to your chances. Just ask them if they think you should apply or wait and retake in April. They are very honest and good people.

Well not much to think about applying. I already applied to 6 DO schools before getting MCAT scores. So now its worth waiting and see what happens with those applications.

 

[docbill]

Vimal,
I see you posted something similar in pre-allo...

Is DO just a back up plan for your MD application. Also it seemed like DO being made fun off? Borderline... fastest way to my IGNORE list.

 

[cooldreams]

doc... tell me about yourself... you seem to be an interesting character i kno little about... how did you get started down this path to UNECOM?? 👍

 

[docmz]

you definately should! i know of a kid who applied with a 3.6 gpa and a 18-O and they got in!
🙂

Guys,

I got 26O, with BS 10, PS 11 very comfortive but I got 5 in verbal !!! Don't know what to do. Do I have any chance ?

my science GPA is 3.46 and Non science is 3.85.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Buckeye(OH)]

Vimal,
I see you posted something similar in pre-allo...

Is DO just a back up plan for your MD application. Also it seemed like DO being made fun off? Borderline... fastest way to my IGNORE list.

I'm sure he's all bent out of shape about being on your ignore list. What's it to you why he applied? That's more or less his business, no?


Adrian

 

[DrMom]

Make sure the schools know that English is not your first language. There are schools out there (MD and DO) that will take that into account since you did decently in the sciences.

 

[cooldreams]

I'm sure he's all bent out of shape about being on your ignore list. What's it to you why he applied? That's more or less his business, no?


Adrian

agreed... but still... it is disrespectful to any profession to be called someones back up plan... perhaps it does not warrant blocking, but ..... 🙁

 

[DrMom]

agreed... but still... it is disrespectful to any profession to be called someones back up plan... perhaps it does not warrant blocking, but ..... 🙁

What you do is educate them on osteopathic medicine. Converts are great!

 

[docbill]

doc... tell me about yourself... you seem to be an interesting character i kno little about... how did you get started down this path to UNECOM?? 👍

Interesting Character hmmmm... I have not had that comment since elementary school.

Welll Cooldreams... good question.. it started many years ago when I was a little kid walking down the street.... long story short.... 😕

This is not directed towards anyone... HERE. So Don't be offended.
I don't want to end up in a profession I enjoy and believe in, and have others having choosen Osteopathic Schools as a second choice. It is a different philosophy. Something I agree with.

You want to know more about me... Look at all my postings and you will see.

 

[docbill]

DrMom, I agree with you, there is nothing wrong with Converts. I am one my self.
4 years ago.. I saw the light.

 

[docbill]

This is the original Post from Pre-allo link:

Yeah, well I have already applied to 7 MD schools and 5 DO schools because I didn't want to be late. So anyway will wait for their decisions. Well may be going to DO will be worth than wasting one more year of life and spending all money. But anyway its now wait and watch game. Otherwise will start preparing for April MCAT.

What produced dought in my mind is the following sentence "Well may be going to DO will be worth than wasting one more year of life"

Than again... I can be completely wrong.
If that is the case my apologies.

 

[cooldreams]

What you do is educate them on osteopathic medicine. Converts are great!

understood... 🙂

 

[medic170]

This is the original Post from Pre-allo link:

Yeah, well I have already applied to 7 MD schools and 5 DO schools because I didn't want to be late. So anyway will wait for their decisions. Well may be going to DO will be worth than wasting one more year of life and spending all money. But anyway its now wait and watch game. Otherwise will start preparing for April MCAT.

What produced dought in my mind is the following sentence "Well may be going to DO will be worth than wasting one more year of life"

Than again... I can be completely wrong.
If that is the case my apologies.

Don't worry docbill, DO adcoms can usually see right through the "backup plan" applicants that are not truly interested in osteopathic medicine. They seldom make it past the interview unless they know something about osteopathic. I don't mind those who "don't care, just want to be a doctor" as long as they know and embrace osteopathic medicine while applying and especially if they matriculate. However, for those who truly see it as a "backup" rather than an "alternative", I say please do us all a favor and stick with the "superior" allopathic profession.

 

[Buckeye(OH)]

This is the original Post from Pre-allo link:

Yeah, well I have already applied to 7 MD schools and 5 DO schools because I didn't want to be late. So anyway will wait for their decisions. Well may be going to DO will be worth than wasting one more year of life and spending all money. But anyway its now wait and watch game. Otherwise will start preparing for April MCAT.

What produced dought in my mind is the following sentence "Well may be going to DO will be worth than wasting one more year of life"

Than again... I can be completely wrong.
If that is the case my apologies.

I would like to bring up an aspect of the OP's characater that most certainly plays an effect in any negative vibes he may be giving off regarding osteopathic medicine.

The OP is from India, so am I (ok, well my parents are immigrants, not me). As we all know, MD's have a broader spectrum when it comes to international practice rights then do DO's. That is a fact. In India, there are no DO's, and if there are, the represent 0.0000000001% of the total physician population. In India, to be a doctor means to be an MD. I can see where that attitude would carry over coming from this country...as I feel the same thing. My parents/relatives are still pushing for me to apply (which I did) to allopathic schools.

As was said, best thing to do is to educate. However, being as how the OP is foreign, I see his side of the coin....which brings me back to my original statement that he has his own reasons for applying where he did...and that's that.


Adrian

 

[medic170]

I would like to bring up an aspect of the OP's characater that most certainly plays an effect in any negative vibes he may be giving off regarding osteopathic medicine.

The OP is from India, so am I (ok, well my parents are immigrants, not me). As we all know, MD's have a broader spectrum when it comes to international practice rights then do DO's. That is a fact. In India, there are no DO's, and if there are, the represent 0.0000000001% of the total physician population. In India, to be a doctor means to be an MD. I can see where that attitude would carry over coming from this country...as I feel the same thing. My parents/relatives are still pushing for me to apply (which I did) to allopathic schools.

As was said, best thing to do is to educate. However, being as how the OP is foreign, I see his side of the coin....which brings me back to my original statement that he has his own reasons for applying where he did...and that's that.


Adrian

My own comments were not necessarily to the OP. I did find this info from the AOA on DO practice rights in INDIA. As you can see, you make a valid point. However, if the OP does fall under the category you described, his alternative would be to attend an allopathic school outside of the US. I am sure his scores would get him into a Carrib school, so why pursue DO when there are other MD options avaliable?

India
Year of Last Request: 1999
Scope of Practice: undetermined
The AOA received a response to its 1998 inquiry regarding licensure of US-trained DOs. The Medical Council of India stated that osteopathic medicine degree is not recognized for the purpose of IMC Act, 1956. However, they did state that a DO might apply after getting Indian nationality and after implementation of screening test Regulation/Provision in the Indian Medical Council Act.

 

[Ypo.]

What you do is educate them on osteopathic medicine. Converts are great!

Thankyou, Dr. Mom. As a convert I can say that I will always stick up for osteopathic medicine. I have developed great respect for the profession through my efforts to learn, and whether I attend a DO or MD school-there will always be one person out there who is willing to say positive things for the osteopathic profession.
Luckily there were people around here willing to help answer my questions about osteopathic medicine without shooting me down because I didn't learn or consider it until after I had already applied to MD schools.


I do agree that anyone who is considering applying to osteopathic schools should read about the philosophy, history, and shadow a DO-if for no other reason than being knowledgeable about your options. I respect being in love with osteopathic medicine-but really, some people around here need to be less exclusive-there is nothing wrong with applying to both DO and MD schools! I swear-the adcoms don't mind, either! What they want to know (in my humble opinion) is if you have learned about osteopathic medicine-and specifically what it is that has attracted you to osteopathic medicine.

 

[vimal98]

Yeah, well I have already applied to 7 MD schools and 5 DO schools because I didn't want to be late. So anyway will wait for their decisions. Well may be going to DO will be worth than wasting one more year of life and spending all money. But anyway its now wait and watch game. Otherwise will start preparing for April MCAT.

Guys, You had enough discussion about this comment made by me so thought let me clarify this.

I am an international student who came to study here in US. Now until April 2004 I didn't even know what osteopathic medicine is. Not until my premedical advisor told me about. Nobody knows what's DO in INDIA and neither did I. Now I am not here to stay forever and not sure if India will approve DO in future. So my plan was completely for MD. But after my premed advisor suggested, I have read much more articles about DO than probably anybody has. I know lot more about DO than probably all of you guys do. And I am sure if I will get an interview, nobody will reject me on the base of my knowledge about DO. Its not an alternative, but with DO, I will have to stay here in US for my rest of life unless INDIA will approve DO.

 

[medic170]

I know lot more about DO than probably all of you guys do..

Whatever you say big guy. I have been involved with osteopathic medicine as a patient for 27 years and directly involved for the last 6 years, but hey, what do I know compared to a guru like you.


i am being sarcastic. however, you must know that comments like that will not make you many friends and only make you look insecure. I do wish you the best of luck though and I hope everything works out. Like I said before, if you want that MD so you can practice in INDIA, look at the Carrib schools. They confer the same MD degree as US schools, they just are not as competitive for residencies, but it will allow you to practice back home.

 

[Nate]

I know lot more about DO than probably all of you guys do.

Them be fighting words!

 

[vimal98]

Like I said before, if you want that MD so you can practice in INDIA, look at the Carrib schools. They confer the same MD degree as US schools, they just are not as competitive for residencies, but it will allow you to practice back home.

Yeah, whatever I know my stats are much more than enough for those schools. But I don't want to go to those schools that cares only about money while giving admissions. And yeah may be you have more experience about DO, still it doesn't make me any inferior. Moreover I made that comment because I don't want to go back to India with a degree that wouldn't matter much to people. I mean if you are a good doctor but people don't recognize your degree than probably your degree doesn't mean anything.

 

[VentdependenT]

If you ultimately want to go back to india to work why don't you just enroll in school there.

Go allopathic. I'm really bored with people who whine about being DO's. I would rather not deal with more of these individuals in the future.

Oh well, off to studying. I still have patients to care for.

 

[Buckeye(OH)]

Guys, You had enough discussion about this comment made by me so thought let me clarify this.

I am an international student who came to study here in US. Now until April 2004 I didn't even know what osteopathic medicine is. Not until my premedical advisor told me about. Nobody knows what's DO in INDIA and neither did I. Now I am not here to stay forever and not sure if India will approve DO in future. So my plan was completely for MD. But after my premed advisor suggested, I have read much more articles about DO than probably anybody has. I know lot more about DO than probably all of you guys do. And I am sure if I will get an interview, nobody will reject me on the base of my knowledge about DO. Its not an alternative, but with DO, I will have to stay here in US for my rest of life unless INDIA will approve DO.

There is a saying that goes, "Those that are humble will be exulted, while those that exult will be humbled."



Adrian

 

[docbill]

??? Exulted??? what is that.. I don't know that word. Too lazy to look it up.
English is my third language.. no really.

 

[medic170]

Yeah, whatever I know my stats are much more than enough for those schools. But I don't want to go to those schools that cares only about money while giving admissions. And yeah may be you have more experience about DO, still it doesn't make me any inferior. Moreover I made that comment because I don't want to go back to India with a degree that wouldn't matter much to people. I mean if you are a good doctor but people don't recognize your degree than probably your degree doesn't mean anything.

Look, maybe you did not mean to be condescending here, but it sure sounds like it. I was trying to help you with a thoughtful suggestion, Also, I never said you were inferior, where are you getting that from. Do whatever the hell you want, I don't care, but you said you were concerned about not getting accepted to an allopathic program and "wasting" another year of your life, so I suggested the Carrib schools so you could still practice in India. If you don't want helpful suggestions, why are you here? Good luck to you.

Oh, BTW, I hate to burst your bubble, but EVERY private medical school, be it MD or DO, is concerned first and foremost with money..some of them require foreign applicants to prove their ability to pay before accepting them (Finch comes to mind). You don't pay the tuition, you don't go to school.

 

[medic170]

??? Exulted??? what is that.. I don't know that word. Too lazy to look it up.
English is my third language.. no really.

Exulted means to be extremely happy and proud.

 

[docbill]

Thanks Medic.
I will use it in a sentence that way I don't foget.

I am Exulted by the fact that UNECOM accepted me and that I will be a DO.

 

[Ypo.]

There is a saying that goes, "Those that are humble will be exulted, while those that exult will be humbled."



Adrian

I could be wrong-but I think the correct word to be used here is 'exalted'-which means 'to be lifted up-or praised'

 

[Ypo.]

??? Exulted??? what is that.. I don't know that word. Too lazy to look it up.
English is my third language.. no really.

English is really your third language? What other languages do you speak?

 

[Buckeye(OH)]

I could be wrong-but I think the correct word to be used here is 'exalted'-which means 'to be lifted up-or praised'

Yes, you are correct. Apparently the word is "exAlted"


I got it from a sermon at church, it sounded like he said exulted 😳



adrian

 

[vimal98]

Look, maybe you did not mean to be condescending here, but it sure sounds like it. I was trying to help you with a thoughtful suggestion, Also, I never said you were inferior, where are you getting that from. Do whatever the hell you want, I don't care, but you said you were concerned about not getting accepted to an allopathic program and "wasting" another year of your life, so I suggested the Carrib schools so you could still practice in India. If you don't want helpful suggestions, why are you here? Good luck to you.

I am always thankful for your good suggestions. Actually SDN has helped me a lot during this process. And no question about it.

 

[cooldreams]

Yes, you are correct. Apparently the word is "exAlted"


I got it from a sermon at church, it sounded like he said exulted 😳



adrian

ExUlted

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Exulted

"if you dont know a word... look it up" - dad

 

[tupac_don]

Guys,

I got 26O, with BS 10, PS 11 very comfortive but I got 5 in verbal !!! Don't know what to do. Do I have any chance ?

my science GPA is 3.46 and Non science is 3.85.

Thanks in advance.

Your best bet is to just retake the MCAT. YOur chances are very slim with VR of 5.

 

[cooldreams]

ExUlted

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Exulted

"if you dont know a word... look it up" - dad

exalted
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Exalted

difference -
exulted - party time
exalted - award time

 

[Ypo.]

ExUlted

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Exulted

"if you dont know a word... look it up" - dad

I know the word, and I know the phrase-because I played piano at a methodist church for the last two years. There is a word exulted, and there is a word exalted.

"Consider the context"- yposhelley-

The phrase refers to false pride - not to being happy over getting accepted. I wish being humble was all it took to get into medical school 🙄

Whatever, I don't care-its just for anyones info

 

[pboothe]

I haven't read any of the other posts for this, but you need to buy VR 101 by Examcrackers. www.examcrackers.com


I went from a 6 to a 10 in 3 months. No Joke.

 

[vimal98]

Hey guys,

Great news. Well actually its not a question but still I am happy to let you guys know that I got interview invitation from DMU on Nov 5th. Well atleast they want to interview me with 05 in verbal !!

 

[kalix]

Guys, You had enough discussion about this comment made by me so thought let me clarify this.

I am an international student who came to study here in US. Now until April 2004 I didn't even know what osteopathic medicine is. Not until my premedical advisor told me about. Nobody knows what's DO in INDIA and neither did I. Now I am not here to stay forever and not sure if India will approve DO in future. So my plan was completely for MD. But after my premed advisor suggested, I have read much more articles about DO than probably anybody has. I know lot more about DO than probably all of you guys do. And I am sure if I will get an interview, nobody will reject me on the base of my knowledge about DO. Its not an alternative, but with DO, I will have to stay here in US for my rest of life unless INDIA will approve DO.

Ok, question....
Why don't you just go to an MD granting medical school in India??? Your plans are to move back there in the future anyways, so I'm confused...

Plus, by doing this, there will be one more open slot at an osteopathic institution for someone that is truly passionate about the osteopathic philosophy 😎

 

[vimal98]

Ok, question....
Why don't you just go to an MD granting medical school in India??? Your plans are to move back there in the future anyways, so I'm confused...

Plus, by doing this, there will be one more open slot at an osteopathic institution for someone that is truly passionate about the osteopathic philosophy 😎

Well good question and probably I will be asked that in interview too. Well it was too late by the time I decided to become a doctor. I graduated from Chemical Engineering and in India you can't change field like that. Probably once you graduate, its your future as futures are decided by 12th grade points. Moreover you get MBBS degree not MD. So if I want to be MD in india, it will cost me more than 10 years for only school. And some more years for residency. So not a practical thing.

Moreover it doesn't matter who is passionate for philosopy of Osteopathic medicine. I am passionate to be a doctor and no matter what kind of doctor I will be (MD or DO), I will be a Doctor and that's what matters for me right now. And I am sure if I will be able to get admission in DO schools, then it should be lot easier for the people who are truly passionate about the osteopathic philosophy.

 

[medic170]

Moreover it doesn't matter who is passionate for philosopy of Osteopathic medicine..

That, my friend, is where you are VERY wrong and sound arrogant and self-rightous.

 

[vimal98]

That, my friend, is where you are VERY wrong and sound arrogant and self-rightous.

Yes I know I am being self-rightous and may be arrogant. But not very wrong. I mean I want to be a doctor, may be I don't have strong feelings about philosophy of osteopathic medicine but it doesn't mean I can't be a good osteopathic physician. Moreover I have read a lot about it and I kind of like it. Right now the only thing I have in mind is to get into a medical school. And probably its true for everyone here.

 

[medic170]

Yes I know I am being self-rightous and may be arrogant. But not very wrong. I mean I want to be a doctor, may be I don't have strong feelings about philosophy of osteopathic medicine but it doesn't mean I can't be a good osteopathic physician. Moreover I have read a lot about it and I kind of like it. Right now the only thing I have in mind is to get into a medical school. And probably its true for everyone here.

Well, you are right, it does not mean you can't be a good physician, but its still VERY wrong to say "it doesn't matter who is passionate for philosopy of Osteopathic medicine". because it does!! If it did not matter, osteopathic medicine would cease to exist becasue there would be no difference between osteopathic and allopathic.

BTW, you have been catching a lot of flak on this thread, and I must admit that I admire your persistence. Just remember the best way to be heard and taken seriously is to do the same for others.

 

[vimal98]

Well, you are right, it does not mean you can't be a good physician, but its still VERY wrong to say "it doesn't matter who is passionate for philosopy of Osteopathic medicine". because it does!! If it did not matter, osteopathic medicine would cease to exist becasue there would be no difference between osteopathic and allopathic.

BTW, you have been catching a lot of flak on this thread, and I must admit that I admire your persistence. Just remember the best way to be heard and taken seriously is to do the same for others.

Hey well everything written above are my views. I have read about initial days of osteopathic medicine and its survival. I mean I totally respect people who are confident about osteopathic philosophy. These views are just for me and they are according to my situation. I mean people have their own situations and depending on them their belief.

 

[trypto82]

there goes my DMU interview, to someone who doesn't care about osteopathy