Calculating MCAT percentile ??

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Lately I've heard a lot of people talking about being in the ___ percentile on the MCAT... Now I'm confused about this.

Does it mean that it's just your raw score divided by the total
ex. 32/45 = 71st % ? If it is this way, then how would you factor in the writing sample score ??

Or is the percentile some chart somewhere ?? that factors in all these things ??
 
The composite score is based on a normal distribution curve where the mean is usually around 24-25 with a standard deviation usually around 6-7.

the links here will give you a rough idea of what composites are needed for a certain percentile.

The writing sample score is not figured into the percentile rank. There is a seperate percentile rank for the writing sample.


http://www.aamc.org/students/mcat/examineedata/pubs.htm

Charm_333 said:
Lately I've heard a lot of people talking about being in the ___ percentile on the MCAT... Now I'm confused about this.

Does it mean that it's just your raw score divided by the total
ex. 32/45 = 71st % ? If it is this way, then how would you factor in the writing sample score ??

Or is the percentile some chart somewhere ?? that factors in all these things ??
 
Charm_333 said:
Lately I've heard a lot of people talking about being in the ___ percentile on the MCAT... Now I'm confused about this.

Does it mean that it's just your raw score divided by the total
ex. 32/45 = 71st % ? If it is this way, then how would you factor in the writing sample score ??

Or is the percentile some chart somewhere ?? that factors in all these things ??
You have to use the chart. A 32 would be in the 80-something percentile.
 
And it differs slightly on each administration. When you first get your scores through THx, you just get the numbers, and then in a couple of week, you'll ba able to display the percentile scores on THx.
 
Charm_333 said:
Or is the percentile some chart somewhere ?? that factors in all these things ??

The percentile means how many people scored higher than you in that test sitting (e.g. August 2005) 95th percentile in X means 5% of test takers scored as high or higher than you in X and 95% scored lower than you. 70th percentile means 30 percent scored as high or higher than you, etc... However, since there are thousands taking the test and only 15 "grades" per section, they have to give a range, e.g. 60-80 percentile for a 10 in PS, meaning that 20 percent scored higher than 10 and 60 percent scored lower than 10, the middle bunch all scored exactly 10. (So, to further confuse you, that means you are in the second quintile!).

They use the same logic for the WS, however, it isn't factored into your global percentile which simply tells you how many people scored as high as you out of 45 (irrespective of the VR/PS/BS breakdown). I think you can use your WS score to determine where you probably rank in that global "range" - e.g if your global percentile range when you get a 31 is 80-88, but you had a T writing sample? You can probably brag to your parents that you were in the 88th percentile because not many of those 31s will have had a T in WS also.

I hope this doesn't just confuse you further.
 
What advices do you guys give for those who want to sharpen their math skills? What books etc or practice materials that will allow one to do this? thanks guys
 
V4viet said:
What advices do you guys give for those who want to sharpen their math skills? What books etc or practice materials that will allow one to do this? thanks guys

EK goes over this in their complete series.
-They have a seperate Verbal and math book.
-also logs are covered in the Chemistry book and audio osmosis.
-also kinematics covered in audio osmosis and the physics book. I like how they presented acceleration.

I'm sure most of the tricks needed for the MCAT could be summarized on just a few pages.
 
V4viet said:
What advices do you guys give for those who want to sharpen their math skills? What books etc or practice materials that will allow one to do this? thanks guys

The big thing that's been helping me is using scientific notation for everything and then estimating the real answer by making divisions more doable by rounding in those. Just keep track of how you are rounding. (i.e. If rounding up in a multiplication, then the real answer would be slightly less than that). If you are taking Physics right now, a thing that I've been doing is using mental math to estimate the answers to the homework problems before doing the actual calculations so that you get more practice. MCAT problems usually won't have such ugly numbers that you encounter in Physics class, though, so this is a little harder than what you'll see on the test.
 
the average applicant may be 27, but then again, the average applicant doesn't get into med school 🙁
 
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In the self assessments they give you raw score and an estimated composite and sectionscores .
Wondering if anything like that exists for the whole raw score range?

The self-assessments provide a percentage. You can't get a scaled score for them for a multitude of reasons (although I'm sure you could estimate it if you had access to AAMC 1, 2, and 6). Even then, it wouldn't be representative of your performance on an exam because the assessments would be taken under non-standard testing conditions.
 
also does anyone know how the percentile scores are calculated is it curved based on all examinations of all versions or based on that specific version or based on that testing group of that date or even is there a predetermined curve bass to cross all examenes ever taking the test?

The self-assessments provide a percentage. You can't get a scaled score for them for a multitude of reasons (although I'm sure you could estimate it if you had access to AAMC 1, 2, and 6). Even then, it wouldn't be representative of your performance on an exam because the assessments would be taken under non-standard testing conditions.
You are correct I was thinking of practice test.
 
also does anyone know how the percentile scores are calculated is it curved based on all examinations of all versions or based on that specific version or based on that testing group of that date or even is there a predetermined curve bass to cross all examenes ever taking the test?


You are correct I was thinking of practice test.

Tests are designed so that a score will always mean the same across tests. That is, a 32 will always mean a 32. While an individual may do better/worse on a certain test day due to certain topics showing up, the score itself is supposed to mean the same thing.

Percentiles, however, are not necessarily consistent across all testing years. The AAMC just reports the percentile of the PREVIOUS year's test takers who achieved your score. So while it shouldn't vary that much from year to year, it is conceivable that the percentile does shift (likely slowly getting lower, as in a 32 is currently in the low 80s percentile but will, over time, break into the high 70s as applicants get more competitive).

I think that answers your question. It's important to note also that the test is not curved, it is scaled. Because the AAMC uses test takers to establish validity of questions, they can simply design a test that should result in a similar distribution of scores as all previous MCATs. So, theoretically, a 32 ALWAYS means a 32 and will always mean a 32 (what changes, however, is how competitive a certain score is in terms of applying). It's basically 'curved' based on all examinations, there are no adjustments made to the scale for performance of a specific testing date. If a scale says "90% raw score = 40" and everyone shows up and gets 90% raw score.. everyone gets a 40. Likewise if everyone misses a certain question, etc.. because the AAMC already knows what to expect from the average test taker based on their experimental data. Scales do vary across testing dates.. slightly.. to adjust for small differences in difficulty. Again, this is established before the test is taken.
 
Tests are designed so that a score will always mean the same across tests. That is, a 32 will always mean a 32. While an individual may do better/worse on a certain test day due to certain topics showing up, the score itself is supposed to mean the same thing.

Percentiles, however, are not necessarily consistent across all testing years. The AAMC just reports the percentile of the PREVIOUS year's test takers who achieved your score. So while it shouldn't vary that much from year to year, it is conceivable that the percentile does shift (likely slowly getting lower, as in a 32 is currently in the low 80s percentile but will, over time, break into the high 70s as applicants get more competitive).

I think that answers your question. It's important to note also that the test is not curved, it is scaled. Because the AAMC uses test takers to establish validity of questions, they can simply design a test that should result in a similar distribution of scores as all previous MCATs. So, theoretically, a 32 ALWAYS means a 32 and will always mean a 32 (what changes, however, is how competitive a certain score is in terms of applying). It's basically 'curved' based on all examinations, there are no adjustments made to the scale for performance of a specific testing date. If a scale says "90% raw score = 40" and everyone shows up and gets 90% raw score.. everyone gets a 40. Likewise if everyone misses a certain question, etc.. because the AAMC already knows what to expect from the average test taker based on their experimental data. Scales do vary across testing dates.. slightly.. to adjust for small differences in difficulty. Again, this is established before the test is taken.
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