Im trying to transfer into California and have passed my cpje with a 85..YET......Cali BOP denied me a 4th attempt for naplex by taking into consideration a naplex fail and a pass ( took it twice 2001) I took in 2001. I never saw anything about this in the application, BUT it reads in the regulations. The new application I see on file has been updated 1.2016. I called the board after my 1st attempt and asked how many more chances I would receive for taking the naplex and was told 3 more for a total of 4. Even on the letter I received after my 3rd fail it was not stated that I have exhausted my attempts, they only told me after I applied for the next attempt that it was being considered my 5th attempt. Now I am being denied !!!!!! Can I fight this ??? Anybody have any experience with this??? DO I need a lawyer???? Is there another board that would allow me take naplex and then would California accept it even after saying I am not eligible to take it thru California???
california naplex 4th attempt denied !!! HELP
I can barely follow what you wrote.
Anyway, you're allowed only four failed attempts before you are required to take 16 semester units of additional education before being allowed to retake the exam.
You failed it once in 2001.
Then I guess you failed it three more times in 2016?
The NABP only allows 5 attempts to pass, meaning if you went ahead and took the additional education, you then have 1 more attempt to pass it.
I don't think you have much a leg to stand on.
Anyway, you're allowed only four failed attempts before you are required to take 16 semester units of additional education before being allowed to retake the exam.
You failed it once in 2001.
Then I guess you failed it three more times in 2016?
The NABP only allows 5 attempts to pass, meaning if you went ahead and took the additional education, you then have 1 more attempt to pass it.
I don't think you have much a leg to stand on.
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States can have stricter rules than NABP for number of NAPLEX attempts. The max they will allow is 5 attempts. Many states will require remedial intern hours or additional course work if you fail more than a set number of times.
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As a CA license myself though I don't practice in the state, you *could* appeal to the CA administrative court, but I'd bet good money that you'd lose as it's within the state's discretion on the matter. And no, you cannot take it for a different state then score transfer into CA (see http://www.pharmacy.ca.gov/forms/fail_exam_info.pdf) and the NABP regulations about the exam ATT process.
Applicants who failed the prior examination (pre2004 version) will have these failed attempts continue to count as failed examinations; the 2004 changes will not restart applicants to zero attempts at the pharmacist licensure examination.
There's a reason for the disqualification. The 2004 version was actually HARDER than the previous years (but from those who licensed between the 2004-2008 time like me, not that difficult), so exam failures from that era are considered too incompetent for practice.
The letter that you were sent does state the conditions that you'd have to meet to reattempt the exam again. Usually it's an FT semester of pharmacy school.
Best of luck.
Applicants who failed the prior examination (pre2004 version) will have these failed attempts continue to count as failed examinations; the 2004 changes will not restart applicants to zero attempts at the pharmacist licensure examination.
There's a reason for the disqualification. The 2004 version was actually HARDER than the previous years (but from those who licensed between the 2004-2008 time like me, not that difficult), so exam failures from that era are considered too incompetent for practice.
The letter that you were sent does state the conditions that you'd have to meet to reattempt the exam again. Usually it's an FT semester of pharmacy school.
Best of luck.
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I'm sorry, I think lord999 is right.
Its weird when the cali website explains it.... as they say California examination....... I take that as the cpje, especially since naplex is a national examination. So they don't count the pass from 2001, but do count the fail from 2001? Its kinda hard to accept when I have been out of school for 15 years and received a 69,71,73 on naplex between (2015-2016) and the letter I received with my 73 score does not state anything about it being the last or requiring 16 hours schooling. When I called them after my 1st attempt in 2015 I was told I had 3 more trys. We pay a fee for the initial application for them to process this application, cant they at least tell us how many tries we have left on paper. How about false information from when I called CA BOP staff??? I now understand why people all over the US say
CA BOP is sloppy. Anyways do you have any other ideas???
So they don't count my pass but count the fail from 2001?.... Jeez even bankruptcy goes away in 7 years. I have a friend in clinical hospital pharmacy that has offers at 3 hospitals in California and cant pass the cpje. He is not even close, but the hospitals have enough confidence in him and his 15 years of experience that they have offered him a job , obviously based on if he finally passes. Just weird, ya know!
And the CA website says you can take it another four times as long as its within 12 months of the 16 semester units.........Are semester units= hours ?
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I hate to ask this, but were you trained in the US? Hours/units as in semester hours not as in continuing education units/hours and not quarter hours/units. And the CA BoP is not terribly communicative, but no, I'm sure that they sent the requirements as it's a form letter at the fourth attempt. The fifth or other attempts have to be board petitioned and you can't sue the board without going through that recourse.
Yes, having the examples of the:
1. Pre-1998 exam which was paper (not easy, not hard)
2. 1998-2003 first electronic exam (stupid easy)
3. 2004-2009? second electronic exam (easy)
The Board (as is most states) made the decision that failing the board prior to 2004 was especially egregious.
And no, that's your responsibility to track number of attempts to ATT's. Even if you manage to sneak one in but the Board later finds out that it was a disqualified attempt, they retroactively revoke your license for that.
If the Board staff actually messed up and didn't send you the requirements, you need to send them a certified letter explaining your situation to them, and what is required for a future ATT.
And, both the old CalPLEX (2004 being the last year) and new CPJE are bare minimum competency standards. They are not excessively difficult (except maybe the essay component if they just happen to use something crazy like the ACLS question my year). That's the cost for working in CA. The reason why CalPLEX ended was because NAPLEX was made hard enough to match what old CalPLEX had been (and that still was a joke for anyone who examined between 2004 and 2009ish).
why would hospitals hire people with knowledge deficits?
American ......what awful
but you were saying they are suppose to send me the a letter on my 4th fail stating these requirements and they didn't..... I waited 113 days for them to send me that 2nd letter after inquiring that stated I needed 16 hours .............. that s poor government of the ca BOP on there part
American ......what awful
I have been practicing for 15 years ... and the last 10 in hospital.......? these exams are based on book knowledge ....as you will see protocols that are different than the ones to memorize for this exam
but you were saying they are suppose to send me the a letter on my 4th fail stating these requirements and they didn't..... I waited 113 days for them to send me that 2nd letter after inquiring that stated I needed 16 hours .............. that s poor government of the ca BOP on there part
