Can a high CBSE score make up for a failed course?

[yorta]

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How significantly does a failed course impact an applicant's chances of being accepted into an OMFS residency? For instance, consider Applicant A, who has a perfect academic transcript and a CBSE score of 70, compared to Applicant B, who failed one course but has a higher CBSE score of 73. Which applicant is likely to be more favored by admission committees?

 

[DustFreeEraser]

If all else being equal (including interpersonal/social skills), Applicant without failed course > Applicant with failed course

One or two internships + passing score on cbse has shown to make up for a failed year.

 

[letmeinthankss]

I’m not even sure they look at transcripts that closely but it will tank your gpa/rank which will hurt you

 

[SuxDrugs&Rocuronium]

How would one expect to do stellar on the CBSE if they can’t even pass their Dschool classes?

 

[somefuturedoc]

Would aim higher than a 73 if looking to make up for low gpa

 

[yorta]

If all else being equal (including interpersonal/social skills), Applicant without failed course > Applicant with failed course

One or two internships + passing score on cbse has shown to make up for a failed year.

Thank you for your reply. Do you mean "externship?" Or do you mean the full year internship (non-cat year) after dental school?

 

[SuxDrugs&Rocuronium]

theres no need to be rude bud

granted I never failed, but I did poorly in a few classes D1 and still crushed the CBSE

Not sure how that was rude “bud.” It’s a legitimate question

 

[SuxDrugs&Rocuronium]

if youre not sure how your tone came off as rude you gotta work on those social skills bud

Alright bud. It’s the harsh reality though. If someone struggles to pass classes in dental school, they’ll most likely struggle with the CBSE. It’s much more difficult than any class in dental school. And don’t worry, my social skills are just fine, good enough to get me into my top choice residency program

 

[SuxDrugs&Rocuronium]

of course the cbse is way harder than any dental school class, but people can struggle in dental school classes for various reasons.

the guy is clearly trying to improve his application/academic standing. How is it productive to punch down and tell him he probably wont be able to hack it either way lol

By provoking the idea that things have to change to go from failing dschool classes to excelling in the cbse. How is being realistic “punching down?” Or should I sugar coat it next time?

 

[Mirizzi]

Could be a handskills course. After my first quarter, I was in the bottom 30 students in my class at crown preps lol.

 

[SuxDrugs&Rocuronium]

bro thinks hes the teacher

Ok bro. Just telling it like it is

 

[dratc]

I think the true answer is none of us actually know.

But, what is probably true is the CBSE is likely your only hope of overcoming a failed class and still getting an interview invite. After that, you’ll need to have a good way to explain the situation when it is brought up. Lessons you learned, how you improved, etc.

So if you really want OMFS, give the CBSE your best shot and see how it goes.

 

[DustFreeEraser]

Thank you for your reply. Do you mean "externship?" Or do you mean the full year internship (non-cat year) after dental school?

Non cats.
Lower gpa/rank = More non cats to increase chance of getting in.

 

[omfsing]

I had to repeat a year of dental school and took the CBSE and had one of the highest scores that year I took it.

I did a noncat but I got 12 OS interviews just because of my score alone.

You’ll be fine

 

[mangler]

It definitely can and you don’t even need a phenomenal score.

A passing CBSE (>65?) and an intern year or two can overcome almost anything.

 

[nade0016]

Slightly different take here from a PD. As above, yes, we rarely look closely at SoD transcripts unless there is something on the letter from the academic dean. Which again, we rarely look at in detail. But we all do look at how an applicant handles adversity. If you can present a good case about how you fell short and how you worked to overcome that deficiency. I am more impressed with that than a CBSE of 80+. Those applicants who do not face adversity in life have a tougher time in residency when adversity hits. And it will hit you, regardless of how smart you are or hard you work. This is how our selection committee works at my institution, we look very closely at where someone comes from, what adversity they have experienced and how they have succeeded.

As an example: In the recent past, we selected/ranked higher an applicant with slightly lower scores because this person was homeless in their teenage years and overcame that to become the first person in their family to go to college.