can you explain what a typical day in the life of a 3rd year is like i'm five

[boopitybop]

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hey guys, incoming medical student here looking forward to it. one thing i am trying to figure out is what the normal day is for a third/fourth/resident is. i mean i dont understand when people are like "wahh i have night float on the q4 or q6 bingo bango bongo". what is night float? what does q4 mean? what exactly is "call"? do you just stay home and people literally call you and you answer questions over the phone or are you supposed to be at the hospital. why do med students do call? who calls a medical student for medical advice

 

[SirGecko]

Google might help you out. Also there are plenty of books out there on how clerkships work. I'm not going to type a novel here, just answer specific questions

Specific questions you asked:

1. Night float: you work at night
2. q4 with regards to call usually means every fourth day
3. Call can mean several things. On a medicine service it can mean that your team is accepting patients. (so there will be several medicine teams and you accept patients on a designated day and then use the other days to discharge the patients you have been collecting) Call can also mean staying in the hospital overnight with the night team. Accepting patients, responding to nursing calls etc. Call can also be home call but you really don't do that as a medical student unless no one on your team takes call in the hospital.
4. No one calls the medical student for advice. You do call because it is supposed to expose you to how the hospital runs at night. You'll get some arguing among people about the utility of medical student call. I don't see it going anywhere though.

 

[greg1184]

Typical day of a MS3 is highly clerkship specific. The typical day of your surgery clerkship (most demanding) is much different from psych (relatively less demanding).

 

[Jamie561]

Bingo is a game played with numbered balls and a scoring sheet. Bango and bongo are made up terms as far as I can tell.

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[Rothbard]

nm

 

[CassieBagley]

OK, I'd actually like to hear a little insight in these answers as well. If you are or have completed 3rd year, what was a typical week like? What was a typical day like? Pick a rotation and share. Here's a sample schedule of what I imaginatively think 3rd year is like for surgery:

4 am- wake up in a stupor
4:30 am- rounds at hospital. have to drop a fat deuce the whole time. squeezing cheeks together.
5:30 am- resident's meeting. get asked questions about some surgery indications.
6: am- hold a camera and or light for several hours. day dream about what kind of life leonardo dicaprio lives. that guy's awesome. get yelled at by attending.
11 am: break. eat an iv pack
12 pm- patient follow ups, histories, and stuff
5 pm- meeting with residents. shart self.
5:30 pm. leave hospital. make dinner. masturbate.
6:30 pm study for surgery board exam
10 pm sdn

 

[Geekchick921]

OK, I'd actually like to hear a little insight in these answers as well. If you are or have completed 3rd year, what was a typical week like? What was a typical day like? Pick a rotation and share. Here's a sample schedule of what I imaginatively think 3rd year is like for surgery:

4 am- wake up in a stupor
4:30 am- rounds at hospital. have to drop a fat deuce the whole time. squeezing cheeks together.
5:30 am- resident's meeting. get asked questions about some surgery indications.
6: am- hold a camera and or light for several hours. day dream about what kind of life leonardo dicaprio lives. that guy's awesome. get yelled at by attending.
11 am: break. eat an iv pack
12 pm- patient follow ups, histories, and stuff
5 pm- meeting with residents. shart self.
5:30 pm. leave hospital. make dinner. masturbate.
6:30 pm study for surgery board exam
10 pm sdn

 

[DrSnips]

OK, I'd actually like to hear a little insight in these answers as well. If you are or have completed 3rd year, what was a typical week like? What was a typical day like? Pick a rotation and share. Here's a sample schedule of what I imaginatively think 3rd year is like for surgery:

4 am- wake up in a stupor
4:30 am- rounds at hospital. have to drop a fat deuce the whole time. squeezing cheeks together.
5:30 am- resident's meeting. get asked questions about some surgery indications.
6: am- hold a camera and or light for several hours. day dream about what kind of life leonardo dicaprio lives. that guy's awesome. get yelled at by attending.
11 am: break. eat an iv pack
12 pm- patient follow ups, histories, and stuff
5 pm- meeting with residents. shart self.
5:30 pm. leave hospital. make dinner. masturbate.
6:30 pm study for surgery board exam
10 pm sdn

You must be dreaming if you think you will get a break to eat an iv bag.

I'm on surgery right now, so here's what it's like:

4:30 - wake up, shower, eat breakfast, travel to hospital (25 mins)
5:40 - arrive at hospital, collect all patient's vitals and get wound care supplies ready for 6am rounds with team
6:00-Round with team, change lots of dressings
7:30-either attend a conference or enter first surgery of the day (signed up for the previous day)
Depending on how busy your team is, you may be in lots of surgeries back to back, with no time to eat, but hopefully...
2:00pm - Finally get a chance to grab some food. Carrying quick food like granola bars or bananas in white coat pockets is a must, just in case you don't get to eat.
2:30 - 4:30 Scrub on another surgery or help the team out with new admits if they are overwhelmed.
4:30-Collect vitals for 5pm rounds
5-6pm Begin 5pm rounds sometime in this range
6pm - 7pm Time to go home depending on when afternoon rounds ended, sign up for next day's cases before leaving
Beyond 7pm -- Go home, eat dinner, read up on next day's cases to avoid looking stupid when pimped.
9pm--Go to bed, you will fall asleep instantly due to exhaustion.

 

[dr zaius]

Bingo is a game played with numbered balls and a scoring sheet. Bango and bongo are made up terms as far as I can tell.

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Bongo is the name of a drum and an antelope. How did you get into medical school? You will be a terrible doctor.



(obvious sarcasm)

 

[Perrotfish]

hey guys, incoming medical student here looking forward to it. one thing i am trying to figure out is what the normal day is for a third/fourth/resident is. i mean i dont understand when people are like "wahh i have night float on the q4 or q6 bingo bango bongo". what is night float? what does q4 mean? what exactly is "call"? do you just stay home and people literally call you and you answer questions over the phone or are you supposed to be at the hospital. why do med students do call? who calls a medical student for medical advice

During medical school and residency call means you start work at 8 a.m. one day and finish work at 10 a.m. the following day. Q4 call means you do that on a 4 day cycle, as in:

Day 1: Work a full day
Day 2: Work a full day
Day 3: Start working at 8
Day 4: and finish at 10 a.m.

Then repeat. You get one day off a week, never on a call day or post call day.

As an attending call means what you think it means: you carry a phone/pager and if there's a problem they call you. If there's a big problem you need to come in

 

[Smokemont]

OK, I'd actually like to hear a little insight in these answers as well. If you are or have completed 3rd year, what was a typical week like? What was a typical day like? Pick a rotation and share. Here's a sample schedule of what I imaginatively think 3rd year is like for surgery:

4 am- wake up in a stupor
4:30 am- rounds at hospital. have to drop a fat deuce the whole time. squeezing cheeks together.
5:30 am- resident's meeting. get asked questions about some surgery indications.
6: am- hold a camera and or light for several hours. day dream about what kind of life leonardo dicaprio lives. that guy's awesome. get yelled at by attending.
11 am: break. eat an iv pack
12 pm- patient follow ups, histories, and stuff
5 pm- meeting with residents. shart self.
5:30 pm. leave hospital. make dinner. masturbate.
6:30 pm study for surgery board exam
10 pm sdn

I about sharted myself when I read this, hilarious.

 

[Rothbard]

nm

 

[KnuxNole]

I do think that call is a horrible way to see how the hospital functions at night. But, it's what we gotta do as students, have to suck it up 😀

 

[GunnerBGone]

You must be dreaming if you think you will get a break to eat an iv bag.

I'm on surgery right now, so here's what it's like:

4:30 - wake up, shower, eat breakfast, travel to hospital (25 mins)
5:40 - arrive at hospital, collect all patient's vitals and get wound care supplies ready for 6am rounds with team
6:00-Round with team, change lots of dressings
7:30-either attend a conference or enter first surgery of the day (signed up for the previous day)
Depending on how busy your team is, you may be in lots of surgeries back to back, with no time to eat, but hopefully...
2:00pm - Finally get a chance to grab some food. Carrying quick food like granola bars or bananas in white coat pockets is a must, just in case you don't get to eat.
2:30 - 4:30 Scrub on another surgery or help the team out with new admits if they are overwhelmed.
4:30-Collect vitals for 5pm rounds
5-6pm Begin 5pm rounds sometime in this range
6pm - 7pm Time to go home depending on when afternoon rounds ended, sign up for next day's cases before leaving
Beyond 7pm -- Go home, eat dinner, read up on next day's cases to avoid looking stupid when pimped.
9pm--Go to bed, you will fall asleep instantly due to exhaustion.

Seriously?
That's how surgical rotation is?
THAT'S THE BIG BAD TERRIBLE OMG SURGERY?
Collecting vitals and waking up early?


Here's a typical day of a military leader:
4:30 -Wake up, clean your room, shower, shave
5:00- shine boots, iron and starch uniform, put food in your hole, study for promotion
6:00- morning formation, get yelled at
630- run 5 to 15 miles, puke up breakfast, about 200 sit-ups in the mud, get yelled at
800- change uniform, arrive at battalion, work formation, prepare troops, get yelled at
8 am- 2pm - change half the treads on a 65-ton battle tank, with basic hand tools, in the snow and sleet. Do NOT scuff your boots.
2:15 - thaw hands as a snack, resume working with remaining stumps
7 pm - evening formation, get yelled at, mop and wax floors, paperwork
8 pm -home for dinner, or back to work on the tank
9 pm- paperwork, study for promotion / gym time
10 pm - apply Flexall 451 to entire carapace, re-align left knee before tomorrow's run
+11 pm - optional

That's a NORMAL day.
Half the year, you have to do it all while sleeping outside in the rain, eating "egg product" for dinner. Shower when there's water to spare, if you can unfreeze it. Or, if you're in the desert... well...that's entirely different: free fireworks.
A few friends of mine got frostbite, just standing around doing their job. Their fingers literally FELL OFF before they were allowed to stop working. They now get a $200 check each month, for their minor loss.

I'm looking forward to surgical vaca...er...rotation!

 

[siliso]

I wondered a lot about this before 3rd year, so here is a non-surgical one:

Inpatient peds
7 am - Arrive. Look up your patients' overnight events, vitals, ins/outs, new tests and images.
7:45-8:30 - Go see the patients. Brief exam and chat.
8:30 - Rounds. Could be walking rounds (present/discuss patients in the hallway and all go see them as a group) or sit rounds (sit around a table and discuss the patients in turn, then the attending/fellow go see them). You are expected to give a formal presentation of each patient you are responsible for. (SOAP or full H&P for a new patient).
11ish - Rounds are over. Take care of some odds and ends (putting in orders decided on at rounds, get some information, etc). Start writing progress notes.
12 - Noon lecture. Eat during this.
1 pm - 3 pm. Finish writing progress notes. Go see how the patients are doing. Slowest part of the day, maybe you can study for a while. Maybe you can go see a procedure or something. Sometimes there will be admissions and you may go do the whole H&P business.
3-4 pm - Attending/fellow return for another run through the patient list. Give updates, make any necessary changes. Also if the attending is into Education, now is when there might be board questions, mini-lectures by you and/or residents.
4-5 pm - Done, usually.

On weekends - same as above up until noon, except then you leave. One day off.
3-4 times throughout rotation - Stay til 10ish with the night residents and do some admissions. Or study/shoot the breeze until they let you go, if no admission.

Outpatient peds and family med:
8 am - Noon: see patients. Discuss with preceptor. Go back and see them together. Come back out and write a short note. Repeat ad nauseam.
12 - 12:30 Lunch.
12:30-4-5pm Same as above.

Inpatient neuro
8:30-9:30: Pre round on your 1 or 2 patients. Chat. Read. Start notes.
9:30-Noon: Rounds. No formal presentations. Lots of discussion and teaching. Long conversations with families. Finish notes.
Noon - Lunch.
1 pm- 4pm Often lectures. Other days, studying/chatting/reading/go check on the patients and discuss them one more time. Leave.

 

[link2swim06]

Last block I was on psych..

Wake up at 8am
Arrive at hospital by 8:30am
See a few patients with the team 8:30am-12
Go home for lunch 12pm-1pm
See another patient or two 1pm-2pm
Go home and read 2pm-3pm
Do whatever I want from 3pm-1am

No call, no weekends.

 

[Alvarez13]

Seriously?
That's how surgical rotation is?
THAT'S THE BIG BAD TERRIBLE OMG SURGERY?
Collecting vitals and waking up early?


Here's a typical day of a military leader:
4:30 -Wake up, clean your room, shower, shave
5:00- shine boots, iron and starch uniform, put food in your hole, study for promotion
6:00- morning formation, get yelled at
630- run 5 to 15 miles, puke up breakfast, about 200 sit-ups in the mud, get yelled at
800- change uniform, arrive at battalion, work formation, prepare troops, get yelled at
8 am- 2pm - change half the treads on a 65-ton battle tank, with basic hand tools, in the snow and sleet. Do NOT scuff your boots.
2:15 - thaw hands as a snack, resume working with remaining stumps
7 pm - evening formation, get yelled at, mop and wax floors, paperwork
8 pm -home for dinner, or back to work on the tank
9 pm- paperwork, study for promotion / gym time
10 pm - apply Flexall 451 to entire carapace, re-align left knee before tomorrow's run
+11 pm - optional

That's a NORMAL day.
Half the year, you have to do it all while sleeping outside in the rain, eating "egg product" for dinner. Shower when there's water to spare, if you can unfreeze it. Or, if you're in the desert... well...that's entirely different: free fireworks.
A few friends of mine got frostbite, just standing around doing their job. Their fingers literally FELL OFF before they were allowed to stop working. They now get a $200 check each month, for their minor loss.

I'm looking forward to surgical vaca...er...rotation!

No time to masturbate?

 

[evilbooyaa]

Here's what I've had so far, this is all as a 3rd year student (meaning minimal weekend calls and nothing overnight)

Inpatient IM
7AM - Show up to signout to hear about any overnight problems about your old patients + overnight admissions to your team
730-930 - Write progress notes on your patients (must be IN ZE CHART before rounds according to residents), look up overnight events, look at what specialty services wanted (since they often get their notes done in the afternoon), figure out if there's anything urgent that needs dealt with, figure out what the plan is going forward for this patient

*Alternatively - if you have a light patient load, you can stay for 'morning report', a presentation of an interesting case that usually lasts around 830/845ish
930- Pre-round with your resident (has only been sit down pre-rounding for me). Discuss important points so that you can look intelligent to your attending. Shoot **** with the interns and other students when you're not talking to the resident
10ish - Attending shows up. Attending dependent on whether we sat down and discussed or walked around for every patient. Generally, we would sit down and discuss old patients without significantly urgent issues and those w/o new physical exam findings. We would sometimes walk round on new patients or ones with urgent issues.
1130-12 Time to finish rounds, anywhere in this time range (if the Attending was mindful of the time, it was 1130, otherwise 12)
12 -1 -Grab lunch as take-out from the caf, come down to the noon lecture (for residents as well), eat while person talks
1 - 4 - Check up on patients, possible afternoon rounds depending on attending. Go home when work is done and when senior resident says so.

4-7 - Every other day is 'long call', meaning you are open to admit between 1PM and 7PM. Depending on senior resident, you may be allowed to leave early or after completing one H&P, depending on your team's number of patients.

 

[calvnandhobbs68]

No time to masturbate?

How are you supposed to jack it with those stump hands?

 

[PrideNeverDie]

Seriously?
That's how surgical rotation is?
THAT'S THE BIG BAD TERRIBLE OMG SURGERY?
Collecting vitals and waking up early?


Here's a typical day of a military leader:
4:30 -Wake up, clean your room, shower, shave
5:00- shine boots, iron and starch uniform, put food in your hole, study for promotion
6:00- morning formation, get yelled at
630- run 5 to 15 miles, puke up breakfast, about 200 sit-ups in the mud, get yelled at
800- change uniform, arrive at battalion, work formation, prepare troops, get yelled at
8 am- 2pm - change half the treads on a 65-ton battle tank, with basic hand tools, in the snow and sleet. Do NOT scuff your boots.
2:15 - thaw hands as a snack, resume working with remaining stumps
7 pm - evening formation, get yelled at, mop and wax floors, paperwork
8 pm -home for dinner, or back to work on the tank
9 pm- paperwork, study for promotion / gym time
10 pm - apply Flexall 451 to entire carapace, re-align left knee before tomorrow's run
+11 pm - optional

That's a NORMAL day.
Half the year, you have to do it all while sleeping outside in the rain, eating "egg product" for dinner. Shower when there's water to spare, if you can unfreeze it. Or, if you're in the desert... well...that's entirely different: free fireworks.
A few friends of mine got frostbite, just standing around doing their job. Their fingers literally FELL OFF before they were allowed to stop working. They now get a $200 check each month, for their minor loss.

I'm looking forward to surgical vaca...er...rotation!

med students love to sensationalize how much harder their lives are than anyone elses

 

[Alvarez13]

How are you supposed to jack it with those stump hands?

He can ask his bro. He only needs one hand to join in the soggy cookie fun.

 

[FSU2013]

Guys, he asked to explain it to him like he's five.

It would be like if you went to kindergarten and all you did all day long was watch the kindergarten teacher do paperwork. Sometimes, you actually get to do the paperwork, but then the teacher does it again after you and tells you you're stupid. Occasionally, you will get spanked even when you did your homework and are on your best behavior. This isn't because you did anything wrong, your teacher just had a bad day and/or hates his/her job. You no longer get nap time or animal crackers because you are on the teacher's schedule. There is no finger painting, however there are book reports. Recess (I.e. physical activity) is limited to a few times a month if you get high marks on your behavior grade - you will gain weight. You don't get to go home at 230, you get to leave at some nebulous time when "the work is done.". You have many different teachers, and they will assuredly give you the same lessons over and over again, even if you tell them at you've already learned it. When you get to go home, you don't have a smiling mother to pick you up or a cool yellow bus with your friends - you have a car that's 2000 miles past an oil change, the seats are ripping, the window tint is peeling off and you're not always sure it will start. Instead of a nice packed lunch with a sandwich with the crusts cut off with carrots and dipping sauce and a moon pie, you live off the diet coke and Doritos you can steal from the doctor's loungue - I guess there are still moon pies, but you don't like moon pies any more. Everybody wants to take your toys because they think you're rich. Oh yea, did I mention you're going to have to do a ton of chores to pay off the debt you took out to go to kindergarten. But don't worry, it ends soon. Next year, you start first grade - a magical place that is so kind to its students that they had to make laws decreasing the work load in am attempt to lower the rate of suicide......

In all seriousness, it's not all that bad.

 

[FSU2013]

Seriously?
That's how surgical rotation is?
THAT'S THE BIG BAD TERRIBLE OMG SURGERY?
Collecting vitals and waking up early?


Here's a typical day of a military leader:
4:30 -Wake up, clean your room, shower, shave
5:00- shine boots, iron and starch uniform, put food in your hole, study for promotion
6:00- morning formation, get yelled at
630- run 5 to 15 miles, puke up breakfast, about 200 sit-ups in the mud, get yelled at
800- change uniform, arrive at battalion, work formation, prepare troops, get yelled at
8 am- 2pm - change half the treads on a 65-ton battle tank, with basic hand tools, in the snow and sleet. Do NOT scuff your boots.
2:15 - thaw hands as a snack, resume working with remaining stumps
7 pm - evening formation, get yelled at, mop and wax floors, paperwork
8 pm -home for dinner, or back to work on the tank
9 pm- paperwork, study for promotion / gym time
10 pm - apply Flexall 451 to entire carapace, re-align left knee before tomorrow's run
+11 pm - optional

That's a NORMAL day.
Half the year, you have to do it all while sleeping outside in the rain, eating "egg product" for dinner. Shower when there's water to spare, if you can unfreeze it. Or, if you're in the desert... well...that's entirely different: free fireworks.
A few friends of mine got frostbite, just standing around doing their job. Their fingers literally FELL OFF before they were allowed to stop working. They now get a $200 check each month, for their minor loss.

I'm looking forward to surgical vaca...er...rotation!

This is why you go to college. My brother is in the military and I can assure you his day looks nothing like this.

 

[Michael Corleon]

Seriously?
That's how surgical rotation is?
THAT'S THE BIG BAD TERRIBLE OMG SURGERY?
Collecting vitals and waking up early?


Here's a typical day of a military leader:
4:30 -Wake up, clean your room, shower, shave
5:00- shine boots, iron and starch uniform, put food in your hole, study for promotion
6:00- morning formation, get yelled at
630- run 5 to 15 miles, puke up breakfast, about 200 sit-ups in the mud, get yelled at
800- change uniform, arrive at battalion, work formation, prepare troops, get yelled at
8 am- 2pm - change half the treads on a 65-ton battle tank, with basic hand tools, in the snow and sleet. Do NOT scuff your boots.
2:15 - thaw hands as a snack, resume working with remaining stumps
7 pm - evening formation, get yelled at, mop and wax floors, paperwork
8 pm -home for dinner, or back to work on the tank
9 pm- paperwork, study for promotion / gym time
10 pm - apply Flexall 451 to entire carapace, re-align left knee before tomorrow's run
+11 pm - optional

That's a NORMAL day.
Half the year, you have to do it all while sleeping outside in the rain, eating "egg product" for dinner. Shower when there's water to spare, if you can unfreeze it. Or, if you're in the desert... well...that's entirely different: free fireworks.
A few friends of mine got frostbite, just standing around doing their job. Their fingers literally FELL OFF before they were allowed to stop working. They now get a $200 check each month, for their minor loss.

I'm looking forward to surgical vaca...er...rotation!

You are the man!

 

[calvnandhobbs68]

med students love to sensationalize how much harder their lives are than anyone elses

So do some people in the military apparently. This is the life of almost no one in the military. I know for a fact it's not for anyone on a base in the US or Europe.

 

[VisionaryTics]

Outpatient medicine

6:30 am: Wake up. ****, shower, shave. Carefully coordinate tie, socks, and pen. Admire self in mirror until I leave.
7:30 am: Bus. Feel like a tool while carrying white coat. Fantasize that high school chicks are impressed.
8:00 am: Ambulatory morning report. Drink coffee, avoid eye contact of pimp-happy attendings.
9:00 am: Desperately try to finagle a room in the ambulatory clinic at the VA. I'm shameless. If I fail, I'm stuck watching my attending adjust meds for the next 3.5 hours.
9:06 am: Find a room in urology clinic. Start the day knowing my patients will be comforted by posters of giant prostates and scale models of prostate cancer scattered throughout the room.
9:07 am-12:00pm: See patients. Present to attending. Write note. Repeat. Maybe it's the decor, but everyone at the VA is obsessed with their prostates.
11:00 am: Kick napping nurse out of my room.
12:15 pm: Come in to noon lecture late. Wolf down crappy Sodexo Indian food. Enjoy 954th "Intro to the EKG" lecture I've received since starting med school.
1:00 pm - 4:30 pm: Specialty clinic. Shadow cantankerous rheumatologist. Get pimped on obscure connective tissue diseases and anatomy. Occasionally get to stick a huge needle in someone if I answer enough questions correctly.
4:40 pm: Bus home. Vow to go running when I get home.
5 pm: Get home. Eat leftover cake instead of running. Screw around on the internet.
6 pm: Walk down the street to order a massive burrito.
6:15pm-8:30 pm: Study. UWorld, Step Up to Medicine, Cecil's, whatever.
8:30 pm until bed: Drink a couple of beers. Watch TV. Iron my pants or shirt for tomorrow.

 

[Kaputt]

My daily surgery ordeal:

4:30am: wake up, cry a little bit realizing that dream I was having where surgery was over was not in fact true
5:00am: get out of bed
5:30am: in hospital to prepare for rounds
6-7am: rounds
7am-god knows when: stand in OR like a useless toolbag/exist to provide an extra pair of hands to retract or suction (rather poorly, I might add)/be verbal punching bag of team when operation is providing frustration for any member of the team
random 10 minutes between cases: hide in locker room and eat granola bars and sip on coffee
afternoon: too tired to remember what happens here
whenever residents take pity on me: leave
about an hour after I get home: fall asleep

 

[KnuxNole]

You study DURING the rotation on downtime 😉

At least, that's how I manage to survive my surgery shelf, because after coming home, it was time to eat and crash on the couch :O


And I would also be the worst military personnel. I'd be kicked out on Day 1 for sleeping in and still staying in bed after being punched by the general 10 times. "No sir, gimme 5 more minutes please 😀"

 

[Kaputt]

When do you usually get off your shift?

As an aside to all: how are you supposed to stay awake & vigilant long enough to study after your shift? Crack cocaine? 4 lokos? Bath salts?

Anywhere from 5:30-9:00, depending on the day. Studying was impossible for me during the week during gen surg, and I mainly caught up on weekends when I had some free time. Luckily I have a couple weeks of electives right now until my shelf, which I have chosen to be cush and thus have more free time then when I was on gen surg.

 

[neusu]

What is with this wake up at 04:00 pansy crap? We had to be there at 04:00 to pre-round/collect vitals!

 

[PercussionChick]

Seriously?
That's how surgical rotation is?
THAT'S THE BIG BAD TERRIBLE OMG SURGERY?
Collecting vitals and waking up early?


Here's a typical day of a military leader:
4:30 -Wake up, clean your room, shower, shave
5:00- shine boots, iron and starch uniform, put food in your hole, study for promotion
6:00- morning formation, get yelled at
630- run 5 to 15 miles, puke up breakfast, about 200 sit-ups in the mud, get yelled at
800- change uniform, arrive at battalion, work formation, prepare troops, get yelled at
8 am- 2pm - change half the treads on a 65-ton battle tank, with basic hand tools, in the snow and sleet. Do NOT scuff your boots.
2:15 - thaw hands as a snack, resume working with remaining stumps
7 pm - evening formation, get yelled at, mop and wax floors, paperwork
8 pm -home for dinner, or back to work on the tank
9 pm- paperwork, study for promotion / gym time
10 pm - apply Flexall 451 to entire carapace, re-align left knee before tomorrow's run
+11 pm - optional

That's a NORMAL day.
Half the year, you have to do it all while sleeping outside in the rain, eating "egg product" for dinner. Shower when there's water to spare, if you can unfreeze it. Or, if you're in the desert... well...that's entirely different: free fireworks.
A few friends of mine got frostbite, just standing around doing their job. Their fingers literally FELL OFF before they were allowed to stop working. They now get a $200 check each month, for their minor loss.

I'm looking forward to surgical vaca...er...rotation!

I have a hard time believing military leaders join the formation to get yelled at and mop floors.

No time to masturbate?

OPTIONAL!

 

[Shnurek]

Life of a first year or second year Optometry student:

9:30 - Wake up, put on contact lenses, wash face, throw on first clothes found
9:45 - Walk briskly to the subway because don't want to be late for the 10:30 class.
10:30 - Get to class, sit there and hope that at least 30% of what the professor says will stick
12:00 - Lunch, play pool, ping pong, foosball in the student lounge
13:00 - Microbiology class
14:30 - Integrative Seminar aka the professor asks us things we didn't learn about yet as if we know them or lectures us on how to input information into the electronic medical records as if we don't know how to use a computer.
15:50 - Take subway home
16:30 - Arrive at home, dick around on SDN and the internet
19:00 - eat dinner
19:15 - dick around on the internet/watch TV
20:00 - study for one hour (1 week prior to midterms or finals this goes up to 3 hours)
21:00 - internet/go see friends for short while
1:00 - sleep

Also let me put in this disclaimer. In undergrad I never studied for any class except for 1 hour the day before every test. Ya call me lazy but stuff comes to me quickly and its fun 🙂
And also starting 3rd and 4th year this will change for me as many of our clinics start at 9:00am so I will have to wake up at 7:30am 🙁 🙁 🙁 and sometimes they stay until 7pm.

 

[VisionaryTics]

Life of a first year or second year Optometry student:

9:30 - Wake up, put on contact lenses, wash face, throw on first clothes found
9:45 - Walk briskly to the subway because don't want to be late for the 10:30 class.
10:30 - Get to class, sit there and hope that at least 30% of what the professor says will stick
12:00 - Lunch, play pool, ping pong, foosball in the student lounge
13:00 - Microbiology class
14:30 - Integrative Seminar aka the professor asks us things we didn't learn about yet as if we know them or lectures us on how to input information into the electronic medical records as if we don't know how to use a computer.
15:50 - Take subway home
16:30 - Arrive at home, dick around on SDN and the internet
19:00 - eat dinner
19:15 - dick around on the internet/watch TV
20:00 - study for one hour (1 week prior to midterms or finals this goes up to 3 hours)
21:00 - internet/go see friends for short while
1:00 - sleep

Also let me put in this disclaimer. In undergrad I never studied for any class except for 1 hour the day before every test. Ya call me lazy but its fun 🙂
And also starting 3rd and 4th year this will change for me as many of our clinics start at 9:00am so I have to wake up at 7:30am 🙁 🙁 🙁 and sometimes they stall until 7pm.

Absolutely brutal. I don't know how you carry on in such inhumane conditions. Your training is definitely more rigorous than an ophthalmologist's.

(also, thread is now derailed.)

 

[Shnurek]

Absolutely brutal. I don't know how you carry on in such inhumane conditions. Your training is definitely more rigorous than an ophthalmologist's.

(also, thread is now derailed.)

🙂 Its all about educational efficiency my friend. Efficiency.

We don't learn about the pathogenesis of benign prostatic hypertrophy or how to palpate testicles. We just focus on what we'll be actually doing.

 

[siliso]

My former military friends do have a good perspective on the difficulty of third year life. You may work long hours and feel stupid and insignificant sometimes...but usually no one is literally trying to kill you. You're reasonably certain to get through the day with as many limbs as you started with. It ain't that bad.

 

[FSU2013]

🙂 Its all about educational efficiency my friend. Efficiency.

We don't learn about the pathogenesis of benign prostatic hypertrophy or how to palpate testicles. We just focus on what we'll be actually doing.

How much joy do you get from taking a thread entirely unrelated to anything that even remotely do and bring attention to yourself and optometry? Is it like finding a $5 in old jeans or more like winning the lotto?

 

[calvnandhobbs68]

How much joy do you get from taking a thread entirely unrelated to anything that even remotely do and bring attention to yourself and optometry? Is it like finding a $5 in old jeans or more like winning the lotto?

Shnurek is the guy who inserts himself into every single conversation he finds within earshot.

 

[CassieBagley]

nothing

 

[kpcrew]

How much joy do you get from taking a thread entirely unrelated to anything that even remotely do and bring attention to yourself and optometry? Is it like finding a $5 in old jeans or more like winning the lotto?

He does it because he likes the attention. I put him on my ignore list but someone always quotes him so I inadvertently read his words.

 

[KnuxNole]

Exactly. Strictly for troll purposes. He knows that it's a parody and noone actually gives a damn about his schedule at all.
If they did, why would they be in the medical student board? They have their own board where people who actually care about optometrists go. I dunno if the Optometry board is too boring or something lol

 

[gasblaster]

Exactly. Strictly for troll purposes. He knows that it's a parody and noone actually gives a damn about his schedule at all.
If they did, why would they be in the medical student board? They have their own board where people who actually care about optometrists go. I dunno if the Optometry board is too boring or something lol

Seriously. This is the allo forum. I honestly could care less if he wants to harass/troll the pre-meds, however in here it's different. Optometry has no bearing on the things that are discussed in here. It's typically med students, residents, etc who don't give a flying about optometry.

 

[ArcGurren]

My surgery rotation mostly consisted of

3:30 - wake up
4:30 - 5:30 - in hospital, prerounding, writing the residents notes for them so they can pretend to have prerounded by looking at the labs
6:00 - round with chief resident who i actually liked
7:00 - in the OR all day until whenever... at the start of the rotation. Then make repeated excuses to leave for lectures whenever they happen, or just make excuses period. Got to the point where I actually volunteered to go do consults because I hated the OR and being the retractor biatch that much
somewhere around 3:00 - eat a morsel for the day so that I don't die of hypoglycemia
6:30 - 7:30 - resident remembers I'm alive and lets me go home
8:30 - take an hour to get home because traffic. wolf down bad dinner so that by the end of the month i'm somewhat malnourished
9:30 - asleep to start another day too short a time a later.

Seriously if it's this bad for a student I can only imagine how miserable it must be as a resident, to be quite frank.

 

[ArcGurren]

What is with this wake up at 04:00 pansy crap? We had to be there at 04:00 to pre-round/collect vitals!

That's nice for you. I'm glad to have a life

 

[Shnurek]

Because I know it will rile you up and also I want to educate people. Many med students say they have no idea what OD education is like and when it comes to ophthalmology residents explaining the difference between them and optometrists most people are lost. I found my passion and I will continue to speak about it even if its slightly irrelevant to the OP's question. Best case scenario just ignore it. Don't get riled up. Anger is a sign of weakness.

 

[neusu]

Because I know it will rile you up and also I want to educate people. Many med students say they have no idea what OD education is like and when it comes to ophthalmology residents explaining the difference between them and optometrists most people are lost. I found my passion and I will continue to speak about it even if its slightly irrelevant to the OP's question. Best case scenario just ignore it. Don't get riled up. Anger is a sign of weakness.

How long does it take you to make a pair of glasses? I mean from dilating their eyes to cutting the lens?

 

[jtdMU2010]

Seriously. This is the allo forum. I honestly could care less if he wants to harass/troll the pre-meds, however in here it's different. Optometry has no bearing on the things that are discussed in here. It's typically med students, residents, etc who don't give a flying about optometry.

Exactly. I see this guy all the time here in the allo threads chiming in about optometry. I love his signature stuff at the bottom: "Historic victories for ODs." I like how he includes that they are considered "physicians." I think someone has an inferiority compex and needs to let us know that he is "equal."

Because I know it will rile you up and also I want to educate people. Many med students say they have no idea what OD education is like and when it comes to ophthalmology residents explaining the difference between them and optometrists most people are lost. I found my passion and I will continue to speak about it even if its slightly irrelevant to the OP's question. Best case scenario just ignore it. Don't get riled up. Anger is a sign of weakness.

I can say as a med student...I do not care what an ODs education is. You just want to rile someone up? You must be real mature. Also, you're schedule is ridiculously easy. Pool on lunch break and one hour of studying? hahahaha I chose the wrong professional school! An hour of studying in a single day....my brain doesn't comprehend that.

 

[gasblaster]

Because I know it will rile you up and also I want to educate people. Many med students say they have no idea what OD education is like and when it comes to ophthalmology residents explaining the difference between them and optometrists most people are lost. I found my passion and I will continue to speak about it even if its slightly irrelevant to the OP's question. Best case scenario just ignore it. Don't get riled up. Anger is a sign of weakness.

So you fully admit that your intention is to troll? Although we all knew it anyways...

Educate people that have asked. The OP asked about MSIII and is a med student. How would the OD schedule be at all closely to relevant? Might as well have a PhD track chime in about their daily schedule doing bench work. That would probably be more relevant.

 

[KnuxNole]

I've never met a fellow med student who cares what an OD does with their professional lives whatsoever. Maybe 1 in 10,000 med students do

He can speak about it, but he knows 100% that noone will listen. It's like talking to a wall, or a dead raccoon or a hooker.

 

[theWhat]

Found a funny video on Surgery rotation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=q5Zc3b9Y1Os&feature=endscreen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSsw7yOm2mE&feature=relmfu

 

[45408]

Seriously?
That's how surgical rotation is?
THAT'S THE BIG BAD TERRIBLE OMG SURGERY?
Collecting vitals and waking up early?


Here's a typical day of a military leader:
4:30 -Wake up, clean your room, shower, shave
5:00- shine boots, iron and starch uniform, put food in your hole, study for promotion
6:00- morning formation, get yelled at
630- run 5 to 15 miles, puke up breakfast, about 200 sit-ups in the mud, get yelled at
800- change uniform, arrive at battalion, work formation, prepare troops, get yelled at
8 am- 2pm - change half the treads on a 65-ton battle tank, with basic hand tools, in the snow and sleet. Do NOT scuff your boots.
2:15 - thaw hands as a snack, resume working with remaining stumps
7 pm - evening formation, get yelled at, mop and wax floors, paperwork
8 pm -home for dinner, or back to work on the tank
9 pm- paperwork, study for promotion / gym time
10 pm - apply Flexall 451 to entire carapace, re-align left knee before tomorrow's run
+11 pm - optional

That's a NORMAL day.
Half the year, you have to do it all while sleeping outside in the rain, eating "egg product" for dinner. Shower when there's water to spare, if you can unfreeze it. Or, if you're in the desert... well...that's entirely different: free fireworks.
A few friends of mine got frostbite, just standing around doing their job. Their fingers literally FELL OFF before they were allowed to stop working. They now get a $200 check each month, for their minor loss.

I'm looking forward to surgical vaca...er...rotation!

This is definitely the typical experience for members of the armed forces, no doubt.

That is a "normal" day? What are you smoking? Maybe for a drill instructor during basic training.

My brother is 4 years into the Marine Corp, and he gets 4 day weekends all the time, prolonged marathon sessions of Call of Duty, 8 hour shifts of standing post (i.e., stand at a gate and let people through if they have ID), landscaping the base, doing a lot of clubbing...

So do some people in the military apparently. This is the life of almost no one in the military. I know for a fact it's not for anyone on a base in the US or Europe.

Yep.

med students love to sensationalize how much harder their lives are than anyone elses

So does everyone else, including soldiers.