CAP Matched but better spot is open

[Psychpgy3]

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[Sushirolls]

You are stuck, and I don't believe you have any viable options.

 

[MacDonaldTriad]

Unless you can convince the NRMP to grant you a waver, you must report to your matched program and work at least 45 days. The other/better program will be looking for someone to start July 1.

 

[heysexylady]

anon account here for obvious reasons.

I matched lower in the child and adolescent psych match than I had hoped on my list and the program I matched with didn’t fill. As it happens a program that I applied to and would fit well at but that did not offer me an interview has an open slot they are looking to fill that did not fill in the match.

do I have any options here? I’m scared to even mention this to the program I matched at as I don’t want to get off on the wrong foot. Do programs grant waivers here? It’s hard because I don’t want to get a waiver and then not get the other spot somehow and then be really stuck but i don’t think the other program would consider candidates without a waiver.

could I conceivably leave 45 days in? I don’t know if the other program would take me or what happens then

do people transfer fellowship between first and second year of fellowship?

You can leave after 45 days.

 

[reca]

How do we know which programs didn't fill?

 

[downwithDTB]

How do we know which programs didn't fill?

You look at this list, first number is spots offered, second is spots filled:

U Alabama
CAP 2 0
CL 2 0

Creighton
CAP 2 2

U AZ Phoenix
CAP 2 0

U AZ Tucson
CAP 2 2

Harbor UCLA
CAP 4 4

Kaiser Fontana
CAP 2 2

Kern
CAP 3 3

Loma Linda
CAP 4 4

Stanford
CAP 8 8
CAP/Community 1 1
CL 2 2

USC
CAP 6 5
CL 2 2

UC Davis
CAP 4 3
CL 1 0

UC Irvine
CAP 4 4

UC Riverside
CAP 2 2

UCSD
CAP 4 4
CAP/Community 1 1
CL 2 0

UCSF
CAP 6 6
CL 1 1

UCLA
CL 2 2
CAP 6 6
CAP/Research 1 1

U CO Denver
CAP 5 5
CL 2 1

Hartford Hosp
CAP 2 1

Yale
CAP/New Haven 4 4
CAP/Solnit So 3 3
CL 3 2

Children’s National
CAP 6 6

GWU
CL-Inova 3 3

Medstar GWU
CAP 3 3
CL 2 2

U FL Jacksonville
CAP 2 2

U Miami/Jackson
CAP 3 2
CL 2 1

USF Tampa
CAP 3 2

Emory
CAP 2 2
CL 1 0

MC Georgia
CAP 3 2

Morehouse
CAP 2 2

U HI
CAP 2 2

Northwestern/Lurie
CAP 6 6

Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA
CL 1 0

Rush
CAP 3 3
CL 1 0

SIU
CAP 2 1

U Illinois - Chicago
CAP 3 3
CL 1 1

Indiana U
CAP 1 1
CL 1 0

U Kansas
CAP 2 1

U Kentucky
CAP 3 1

U Louisville
CAP 2 1

LSU
CAP 4 0
CL 2 2

Tulane
CAP 3 1

Maine Med Ctr
CAP 1 1

Hopkins
CAP 6 6
CL 1 1

U Maryland
CAP 2 2
CL 1 0

BU
CL 2 1

Brig & Women
CL 4 4
CL/DFCI 2 2

CHA
CAP 5 5
CL 2 0

CH Boston
CAP 6 6

MGH
CAP 8 8
CL 3 3

Tufts
CAP 2 2

Detroit Med Ctr
CAP 5 3

MSU East Lansing
CAP 1 1

Pine Rest Christian Mental Health
CAP 3 1

U Mich Ann Arbor
CAP 6 6
CL 1 1

Hennepin Co Med Ctr
CL 1 1

Mayo Clinic
CAP 2 1
CL 1 1

U Minn
CAP 5 3

Barnes-Jewish
CAP 3 3

Dartmouth
CAP 3 3

Jersey Shore
CAP 3 3

Rutgers RWJ
CAP 4 3

U NM
CAP 2 1

Mt Sinai
CAP 7 7
CL 3 2

Icahn Beth Israel
CL 2 0

Icahn Elmhurst
CAP 3 3

Icahn St Luke’s
CL 2 1

Jamaica Hosp Med Ctr
CL 2 0

MSK
CL 6 6

Montefiore
CAP 3 3
CL 3 3
CL/Child 1 0

NYP Columbia-Cornell
CAP 10 10
CAP/Public 2 2

NYP Columbia
CL 2 2

NYU
CAP 10 10
CL 3 3

Stony Brook
CAP 2 1
CL 2 0

SUNY Brooklyn
CAP 3 2

U Rochester
CAP 3 0
CL 1 0

Westchester Med Ctr
CAP 3 1
CL 2 0

Zucker-Northwell
CAP 10 10
CL 4 1

Duke
CAP 4 4

UNC
CAP 6 6
CL 3 2

Case Western
CL 2 1

Cleveland Clinic
CL 2 2

THE Ohio State
CAP 1 0
CL 2 1

U Toledo
CAP 1 0

Wright State
CAP 4 2

U OK City
CAP 3 0

U OK Tulsa
CAP 2 1

OR Health Science
CAP 3 1
CL 2 1

Samaritan Health
CAP 2 0

CHOP
CAP 5 5

Hosp U Penn
CL 2 2

Thomas Jefferson
CAP 3 3
CL 2 0

UPMC
CL 2 1

Ponce
CAP 2 1
CL 1 0

U PR
CAP 2 2

Butler/Brown
CL 1 1

RIH/Brown
CAP 5 5

MUSC
CAP 1 1

Prisma Midlands
CAP 4 2

U SD
CAP 1 0

Vanderbilt
CAP 1 1
CL 2 0

Baylor
CAP 8 8
CL 2 1

TX Tech
CAP 1 0

UT Austin
CAP 4 4
CL 2 2

UT San Antonio
CAP 2 2

UTBM Galveston
CAP 2 0

UT Houston
CAP 4 2

UTSW
CAP 6 6
CL 2 1

U Utah
CAP 3 3

U VM
CAP 2 1

U VA
CAP 2 2

VCU
CAP 2 2
CL 2 1

U Wash
CAP 6 6
CL 3 3

Marshall
CAP 2 2

WVU
CAP 2 0

Med Coll Wisco
CAP 2 2
CL 3 1

U Wisco
CAP 3 0

 

[Psychpgy3]

so if I leave after 45 days would places with open spots still accept me? Would I need approval of my residency program director or fellowship program director?

 

[hallowmann]

so if I leave after 45 days would places with open spots still accept me? Would I need approval of my residency program director or fellowship program director?

I wouldn't leave without knowing for sure that places still have open spots. Chances are that the "better" spots that you're interested in may be filled or just won't be filled, so they may never consider you to begin with.

 

[downwithDTB]

so if I leave after 45 days would places with open spots still accept me? Would I need approval of my residency program director or fellowship program director?

I agree with Hallowman above.

Also: There were about 50 open slots and 24 unmatched people. This somewhat "desirable" position is going to be:
1) Trying to see if there are any good unmatched people who can start 7/1.
2) Looking for internal/known people who didn't go into the match that they can rope in. Maybe an internal candidate who wasn't going to fast track that they can throw a bone to to fill.

The didn't interview you, so they weren't in love with your application. Maybe they are used to not filling and only want to train people they love. Maybe they have someone in mind already. No matter what, you aren't worth a violation to them and they won't wait 45 days just for you if there is someone else they like.

Sorry to break bad news. Of course, you can send an email after 45 days, but I wouldn't count on this working and you may burn bridges.

 

[MacDonaldTriad]

The match has good and bad things about it, but it is better for most people to have it than it is to not have it. The unfortunate truth is that it has to be binding or it falls apart, so it is binding. I think 45 days was as unbinding as they dared, but it is long enough to generally keep people where they match into.