CardioPulm anatomy

[futuredoctor1995]

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Hello!


We are starting cardio and pulmonary together and I was wondering what are the good resources to use to study for it? I really struggled with MSK and I just don’t want to fail Anatomy but someone was telling me that Anatomy is different and easier than musculoskeletal so I’m extremely confused. im also at the bottom 30% so I’m really stressed out. Thank you!

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

cardio and pulmonary what? Like just the anatomy or the whole system?

 

[futuredoctor1995]

cardio and pulmonary what? Like just the anatomy or the whole system?

The whole system! Physiology, embryology, and anatomy of it

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

The whole system! Physiology, embryology, and anatomy of it

Do the zanki sub deck for cardio. If you aren't doing path then just do the phys deck.

 

[Magus5454]

Do the zanki sub deck for cardio. If you aren't doing path then just do the phys deck.

KCU doesnt do much path the first year

 

[Hippocrates II]

Interested in good materials as well. This upcoming week looks awful.

Also, dont put too much thought into our rankings. They're currently composed of two grades, and a decent portion of our class has already taken those classes (or similar ones) from the cob program. Cardio/pulm is our first class where it's new for everyone except for a small percentage of people repeating the year.

 

[PorkChopsOG]

KCU doesnt do much path the first year

BRS embryo for embryo, make flashcards of the histology lectures, and then for anatomy spend time in the lab. Luckily there really isn't much to the anatomy in cardio/pulm. Do the gray's questions for cardio/pulm just to get a feel for it. This should all set you up for the first exam.

For the 2nd exam, watch Karius' lectures. Read costanzo physiology, make sure you can do all of the practice questions in BRS physiology because those are very similar to the phys exams, and for extra practice do the pretest phys questions. All can be found on the drive. IF you want to really crush the exam, watch boards and beyond and start the zanki phys deck now.

 

[MakeLifeHappen13]

Boards and Beyond does a great job of explaining Cardiac physiology.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

I read the textbook that KCU requires for cardio and pulmonary physiology mildly. I would probably say that reading first aid's physiology sections would also be helpful.

Compared to MSK Cardio and Pulmonary anatomy is exceptionally more manageable. We're talking 600-800 potential items being test questions on the practical versus 150-200 of which you should reasonably know 50% of the structures that will be asked just by virtue of their repeated reference.

The way I see it, is MSK is the final guarded gate to truly entering medical school. You've succeeded in proving that you minimally can invest the inhuman effort to master volumes of material in short periods of time. Everything afterward is far less volume, far more clear, and more importantly more valuable to actually understanding and helping people.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

BRS embryo for embryo, make flashcards of the histology lectures, and then for anatomy spend time in the lab. Luckily there really isn't much to the anatomy in cardio/pulm. Do the gray's questions for cardio/pulm just to get a feel for it. This should all set you up for the first exam.

For the 2nd exam, watch Karius' lectures. Read costanzo physiology, make sure you can do all of the practice questions in BRS physiology because those are very similar to the phys exams, and for extra practice do the pretest phys questions. All can be found on the drive. IF you want to really crush the exam, watch boards and beyond and start the zanki phys deck now.

Pretty much, Costanzo is useful and I would read that especially if you need clarification. But if we are being entirely honest most of Karius' slides are pretty gold and she is a great teacher who can clarify most things you don't understand.

 

[PorkChopsOG]

I read the textbook that KCU requires for cardio and pulmonary physiology mildly. I would probably say that reading first aid's physiology sections would also be helpful.

Compared to MSK Cardio and Pulmonary anatomy is exceptionally more manageable. We're talking 600-800 potential items being test questions on the practical versus 150-200 of which you should reasonably know 50% of the structures that will be asked just by virtue of their repeated reference.

The way I see it, is MSK is the final guarded gate to truly entering medical school. You've succeeded in proving that you minimally can invest the inhuman effort to master volumes of material in short periods of time. Everything afterward is far less volume, far more clear, and more importantly more valuable to actually understanding and helping people.

Yeah. MSK was hell. Everything after was 100x better.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Interested in good materials as well. This upcoming week looks awful.

Also, dont put too much thought into our rankings. They're currently composed of two grades, and a decent portion of our class has already taken those classes (or similar ones) from the cob program. Cardio/pulm is our first class where it's new for everyone except for a small percentage of people repeating the year.

Class ranking is irrelevant. Mental health and your ability to survive first year is far more important. It's not a race and no one cares if you got an A- in Cardiopulm so long as you know it enough to be able to relearn it quickly second year via first aid.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Yeah. MSK was hell. Everything after was 100x better.

I can honestly say that the only muscles I remember are those that I see on the labels on the weight machines in the gym...

I think MSK sucked because it was intense and more importantly I think there was so little guidance or support for how to figure it all out. Like seriously if I hadn't met one of my best friends during that class who taught me LE anatomy I would have failed that crap.

 

[futuredoctor1995]

Thank you so much guys! I was so stressed because Anatomy scares me so much!

 

[drhop]

Thank you so much guys! I was so stressed because Anatomy scares me so much!

Just a word from experience: IF you are stressed and scared....Learn from YouTube and take it by it's tail!
Why? Anatomy forms a core content when you start being a real doc!
It forms the basis of your understanding in EM, IM , RADIOLOGY , FM, SURGERY and virtually every branch. Good practicing docs refer it to time and again !
So do not be scared ..but take the tiger by it's tail!
All the best!


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[fldoctorgirl]

Hey classmate. I'm making Anki for the practical with image occlusion, making my own Anki cards based on lecture, and using the Zanki physiology deck. This worked well for me on the second half of MSK, so I'm sticking with it. I want to make flashcards for the blue boxes too but considering there's 96 pages, I'm not sure if I'll get to it...hopefully someone else will make them lol

For those who commented about Zanki, how important is it for me to actually dig out the 'relevant' cards from the entire deck? Since I'm using my own cards based on lecture, I figured I would just un-suspend all of the Zanki cards in the cardio phys section and do them over the course of the next 4 weeks, without worrying about what is/isn't relevant to my midterm vs. my final. I just find it super time consuming to dig through 700+ cards looking for relevant ones.

 

[futuredoctor1995]

Hey classmate. I'm making Anki for the practical with image occlusion, making my own Anki cards based on lecture, and using the Zanki physiology deck. This worked well for me on the second half of MSK, so I'm sticking with it. I want to make flashcards for the blue boxes too but considering there's 96 pages, I'm not sure if I'll get to it...hopefully someone else will make them lol

For those who commented about Zanki, how important is it for me to actually dig out the 'relevant' cards from the entire deck? Since I'm using my own cards based on lecture, I figured I would just un-suspend all of the Zanki cards in the cardio phys section and do them over the course of the next 4 weeks, without worrying about what is/isn't relevant to my midterm vs. my final. I just find it super time consuming to dig through 700+ cards looking for relevant ones.

I dont think Im doing the Blue Boxes because Anatomy is only 30% of the material so I wouldn't waste too much time on those Blue Boxes.

 

[PorkChopsOG]

Hey classmate. I'm making Anki for the practical with image occlusion, making my own Anki cards based on lecture, and using the Zanki physiology deck. This worked well for me on the second half of MSK, so I'm sticking with it. I want to make flashcards for the blue boxes too but considering there's 96 pages, I'm not sure if I'll get to it...hopefully someone else will mae them lol

For those who commented about Zanki, how important is it for me to actually dig out the 'relevant' cards from the entire deck? Since I'm using my own cards based on lecture, I figured I would just un-suspend all of the Zanki cards in the cardio phys section and do them over the course of the next 4 weeks, without worrying about what is/isn't relevant to my midterm vs. my final. I just find it super time consuming to dig through 700+ cards looking for relevant ones.

make sure you get the 'hierarchical tags' add on for anki and install that. It allows you to easily see every tag available organized by alphabetical order, so you can just click 'cardio anatomy' or whatever and it'll show you all of those relevant cards, which you can then unsuspend. But I'd say that just doing the entire phys deck over the next 4 weeks won't hurt you as long as you've seen the information. So if you want to do it that way, read costanzo today to get the info in your head, then start the flashcards.

 

[fldoctorgirl]

make sure you get the 'hierarchical tags' add on for anki and install that. It allows you to easily see every tag available organized by alphabetical order, so you can just click 'cardio anatomy' or whatever and it'll show you all of those relevant cards, which you can then unsuspend. But I'd say that just doing the entire phys deck over the next 4 weeks won't hurt you as long as you've seen the information. So if you want to do it that way, read costanzo today to get the info in your head, then start the flashcards.

Yep that’s what I did! I un-suspended the anatomy, phys, and embryo tags. I’m just not going to take the time to specifically look for which exact cards are on which test (because I think phys is more the second exam) because that would take forever.

What are your thoughts on the blue boxes?

 

[PorkChopsOG]

Yep that’s what I did! I un-suspended the anatomy, phys, and embryo tags. I’m just not going to take the time to specifically look for which exact cards are on which test (because I think phys is more the second exam) because that would take forever.

What are your thoughts on the blue boxes?

To this day, people in my class still say that one of the exams they did poorly on was the first cardio/pulm exam. I'm sorry to say that I don't really remember much about the blue boxes. It will definitely not hurt to know them though. Stratify your time between understanding the blue boxes and the material presented in lecture.

 

[Hippocrates II]

Aren't the blue boxes all clinical correlates of what we're learning? Even if they aren't heavily tested, I'm guessing it's probably still worth knowing. Every blue box test question we've had as far as I can remember has been pretty high-level, so it shouldn't take too long to just flip through those pages and get an idea of what each box is getting at. Just my 2 cents

 

[fldoctorgirl]

Aren't the blue boxes all clinical correlates of what we're learning? Even if they aren't heavily tested, I'm guessing it's probably still worth knowing. Every blue box test question we've had as far as I can remember has been pretty high-level, so it shouldn't take too long to just flip through those pages and get an idea of what each box is getting at. Just my 2 cents

I'm definitely going to take a look at them. I was just wondering if it's worth taking the time to study them in greater detail like for MSK, where they were pretty high yield.

 

[Hippocrates II]

I'm definitely going to take a look at them. I was just wondering if it's worth taking the time to study them in greater detail like for MSK, where they were pretty high yield.

Sorry, I meant that reply more in response to the OP who said s/he wasn't going to do them. I'm hoping they aren't too detailed on them because there is so much material for this test, including some pretty long DSAs. I'm just going to do what I did in anatomy (read through them a few times) and hope that's enough, personally.

 

[fldoctorgirl]

Sorry, I meant that reply more in response to the OP who said s/he wasn't going to do them. I'm hoping they aren't too detailed on them because there is so much material for this test, including some pretty long DSAs. I'm just going to do what I did in anatomy (read through them a few times) and hope that's enough, personally.

I think I'll wind up doing the same because there's no way I have time to make and go through that many flashcards anyways.

 

[futuredoctor1995]

There is just so much material on this that you barely have time to breathe.

 

[fldoctorgirl]

There is just so much material on this that you barely have time to breathe.

Take it day by day. Think of the pancake analogy: if you eat the stack of pancakes given to you everyday, you'll be okay. If you get overwhelmed and start to let them pile up, you'll have 30 pancakes to eat in a day and that'll be far more difficult than just eating 3 a day for 10 days. You got this! You've made it this far.

 

[futuredoctor1995]

Take it day by day. Think of the pancake analogy: if you eat the stack of pancakes given to you everyday, you'll be okay. If you get overwhelmed and start to let them pile up, you'll have 30 pancakes to eat in a day and that'll be far more difficult than just eating 3 a day for 10 days. You got this! You've made it this far.

I am trying but there is just not enough time to study. and thank you!

 

[PorkChopsOG]

I am trying but there is just not enough time to study. and thank you!

step 1: stop going to class. Seriously, don't. Watch lectures at 1.6 or 2x speed and then pause if needed.
Step 2: Anki your way to victory
step 3: use the resources mentioned above